Another rough day for the L.A. Chargers

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In addition to the fact that the Chargers lost for the third time in three games, the Chargers had a second straight pathetic accumulation of paying customers in a home stadium that is smaller than more than 100 college venues.

The 27,000 seats weren’t fully occupied (the team still claimed it was a sellout), and many of the seats that were occupied ended up in the possession of Chiefs fans. So many that, via TheBigLead.com, the Chargers couldn’t do player introductions for fear of being drowned out by the visiting crowd.

The outcome (with more of the same to surely come) will do nothing to quell talk that the Chargers should return to San Diego. Despite some hot takes and perhaps overly-hyped storylines from last week regarding the possibility, Sam Farmer of Los Angeles Times has explained that a re-re-relocation of the Chargers is highly unlikely unless the Spanos family sells the team, which is also highly unlikely.

The real test will come when the new stadium opens in Inglewood. If the Chargers can’t get more than 25,000 and change to show up when there are more than twice as many seats in the building, it simply won’t be sustainable. If, in turn, the Rams struggle to fill the venue, the league may decide that instead of 20 poorly attended games per year in L.A., there should be only 10 total.

Until that experiment can even happen, the Chargers will need to get through this season and two more at the StubHub Center. Which will mean more and more stories like this one are coming, unless and until it becomes a given that: (1) the Chargers won’t be able to sell all of the tickets; and (2) plenty of the tickets will be used by those who support whoever the Chargers are playing.

31 responses to “Another rough day for the L.A. Chargers

  1. Gee. If only there was some type of precedent or example that previously set – that would have allowed the NFL and its owners to think that having not even two, but just one, franchise in LA is a foolish quest.

    Oh well. Hopefully, the latest pursuit of professional football in LA will put the final nail in its coffin – or at least for another 20 years until newer, richer owners will believe they are smarter than their predecessors.

  2. In other news the Spanos family is still swimming around like Scrooge McDuck in a vault full of gold coins. The whole revenue sharing model of the NFL does a pretty good job of protecting them from taking much of a hit from all those empty seats.

  3. They will sell more tickets if they start winning but that wont happen this season, so the will want to use the high draft pick they get in the coming draft on USC QB Sam Darnold. Drafting him will create local interest in the team. Philp Rivers is at the end of his career anyway.

  4. The Chargers do not belong in LA.
    And now we have competitive balance issues.
    All AFC West teams not named the Chargers now have an extra home game on their schedule.
    Will not sit well with the rest of the AFC.

  5. I was excited to try the small stadium NFL game experience. I keep hearing they are having a hard time getting a crowd…and yet tickets are at least $250 per seat when I shop for them. Hmm…

  6. I don’t think ticket sales make up a very large % of the money teams rake in each year. Plus, there’s no way the other owners would return the relocation fee if the Chargers went back to San Diego. Maybe they could charge the Spanos another half billion to move back.

  7. San Diego would never take the Chargers back if Dean Spanos or any of the family owns it…..period
    If the NFL wants a team in San Diego then they can pony up the money and build it….the city will give them the land but that’s it
    That is the short version of what is going on…… 2 conditions…pretty simple

  8. The poster child for the leagues greed, shortsightedness, and indifference towards its long time fans. I feel bad for legacy Chargers fans and Philip Rivers.
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    My thoughts exactly.

    And it is absolutely deplorable 30 NFL teams supported his move.

  9. skmad2014 says:
    September 25, 2017 at 11:12 am

    I don’t think ticket sales make up a very large % of the money teams rake in each year. Plus, there’s no way the other owners would return the relocation fee if the Chargers went back to San Diego. Maybe they could charge the Spanos another half billion to move back.
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    They should bill it to all of the owners that stupidly approved such a stupid move.

    It might have been different if they had one good team and one mediocre team in LA, but to have two mediocre teams is pathetic.

    Ticket sales and concessions are just beer money for the owners. They make the bulk of their money off of the television deals.

  10. Just wait until Raider week. You Bolts fans thought games in SD were packed with Raiders fans? Ha! The Raider game in LA will feature a true sellout for once and it will be a sea of Silver and Black! It’s gonna be LOLOLOL

  11. I wouldn’t be so sure the Chargers aren’t available for sale.

    When you start throwing around numbers north of $1.5B for a team you’ve made money on and only paid about $90M for them… And the entire fanbase despises you, and the NFL’s potential downfall…

    As the (mere) Million Dollar Man used to say, “Everybody’s gotta price”

  12. I wouldn’t be so sure the Chargers aren’t available for sale.
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    He won’t sell until Kroenke Land is complete.

    .. the League should have FORCED him to sell rather abandon the San Diego market.

  13. Like my first girlfriend told me, ” you lied, you cheated me, now get out and I don’t ever want to see you again” …

  14. This is a perfect example of why fans should have a 49% non-profit stake in every team. Plus, put into NFL bylaws that moving a team requires 70% minimum vote. That way teams would stay in original cities, and fans/cities wouldn’t be stuck with a tax sucking stadium.

  15. Stop bashing LA. We did NOT want the Chargers here, and especially not Spanos. You guys should be thanking us for protesting with our wallets (or lack thereof) and not giving Spanos much support. Spanos will run out of this town with his tail between his legs.

    Spanos is like that scandal-ridden rich guy who abandons his former city and just moves into your neighborhood upsetting the status quo.

  16. bighoser says:
    Just wait until Raider week. You Bolts fans thought games in SD were packed with Raiders fans? Ha! The Raider game in LA will feature a true sellout for once and it will be a sea of Silver and Black! It’s gonna be LOLOLOL
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    Hilarious. A fan of a team that got tossed around like a chew toy on national television is boasting about how followers of his tough little team are going to buy all the seats to some small venue in LA?
    You sound like the little kid who gets picked on at the playground, so you immediately look for an even smaller kid to push around in order to feel better about yourself.

  17. In terms of the stadium situations, the Rams moving to LA made sense but the Chargers move made absolutely no sense at all.
    The Rams are playing in the LA Coliseum which is an actual stadium that can seat 93,000 people . This is a little bit bigger than the average NFL stadium which is only around 75,000 people. However it still allows them to properly gauge the market and give the team insight into how the LA Market is accepting the team. The Chargers on the other hand have no chance. The StubHub center can only hold 27,000 people which is almost THREE TIMES smaller than the average NFL stadium. This means they will make three times less revenue from home games for 3 seasons unless they triple the price of their tickets and other game day features like parking and concessions. So if the average price to attend a Rams game is $100 a person, the Chargers will have to charge $300 a person. And then the Chargers will have to try and turn 27,000 fans into 70,000 fans in three years. So from a business standpoint the Chargers have no chance at success in the LA Market because there is no existing fan base and no realistic chance at creating one.

  18. “The outcome (with more of the same to surely come) will do nothing to quell talk that the Chargers should return to San Diego.”

    Lolz why would San Diego take back the Chargers? The walking bag of greed who owns them already has enough money so the next 10 generations of his extended family would never have to work a day in their life if they didn’t want to, and that wasn’t enough.

    Unless he builds his own stadium with all his own private funding, San Diego should tell him to take a hike if he tries that.

    “(the team still claimed it was a sellout)”

    I’m sure it was because the league now sells substantial quantities of tickets to agencies they own stakes in as a way of increasing ticket profits on the back end. And the agencies in LA whether or not the league has a stake in them, gobbled up the tix because they knew they can sell them at outrageous prices to visiting fans.

  19. @boracaydude: Like my first girlfriend told me, ” you lied, you cheated me, now get out and I don’t ever want to see you again.”
    My feelings about the Spanos clan exactly. I also would like to throw in Mark Fabiani, “if his mouth is moving, he’s lyeing.”

  20. I can’t believe I’m typing this, but appears that the Raiders are the smartest of the bunch. They will retain a significant fan base in Oakland/Bay Area and Los Angeles/SoCal and now will add millions that visit Las Vegas each fall, particularly international Asian visitors. Accidental geniuses.

    On the flip side, the Chargers have lost a large part of their legacy SD fan base, while LA won’t care unless they win…and they are doing the opposite of that.

  21. Wake-up guys…Spanos doesn’t care! He makes his money from TV rights, like all the other teams. That’s it! If Spanos wanted to build a fan base that went to Charger games, he would have lowered all seat prices to $100 or less, charged $25 for parking and $2.00 beers and hot dogs. Most smart “new product” ventures offer INCENTIVES….PROMOTIONAL offerings to GET PEOPLE TO TRY THE PRODUCT! Spanos/Fabriani want the money no matter how small. They don’t care about building a fan base. There’s every sign he wants to sell the team. Nobody’s buying the team for $1.5 billion, relocating for another $650 million, then building or refurbishing Qualcomm at $500 million or building a new $1 billion stadium! SPANOS HAS TRAPPED HIMSELF ALONG WITH GOODELL AND THE NFL!

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