John Harbaugh doesn’t want Ravens to play in London again

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The Ravens were blown out by the Jaguars in London on Sunday, and Baltimore coach John Harbaugh hopes it’s the last time his team plays overseas.

“To be honest with you — and maybe I’ll get into trouble for saying this — don’t plan on going over there any time soon to play again,” Harbaugh said. “So, somebody else can have that job.”

The NFL is ultimately in charge of the schedule, so the Ravens can’t refuse to go to London. But going this year likely means the league won’t force the Ravens to return any time soon. Two teams, the Rams and Jaguars, have voluntarily played multiple home games in London, but other teams aren’t forced to go year after year.

After the four games this year are played, the NFL will have had 21 games in London. The Jaguars have played five London games, the most of any franchise. That’s followed by the Dolphins (four), and Rams (three). The 49ers, Buccaneers, Giants, Lions, Patriots, Saints and Vikings have each had two London games. The Bears, Bengals, Bills, Broncos, Browns, Cardinals, Chiefs, Colts, Cowboys, Chargers, Falcons, Jets, Raiders, Ravens, Steelers and Washington have each been on the London schedule once.

The Texans, Titans, Panthers, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks have not yet appeared on the London schedule. Those six teams should all expect to be sent to London in the next couple years.

If Harbaugh has his way, the Ravens’ first appearance will also be their last.

84 responses to “John Harbaugh doesn’t want Ravens to play in London again

  1. I agree, what about the fans in the city that sponsors them?

    But Harbreezy, the team looked flat and got whooped by the jags. It’s not London’s fault.

    The question is, how many more coordinators can take the fall for flacco’s poor play?

  2. Going to London to play games is another in the long line of stupid decisions Goodell has made. It proves he and the owners really don’t give a damn about the players’ health.

  3. Another consideration is that if a team is the home team for the London game, it shouldn’t have to be the home team for its next London game. I’m a Ram fan, and we have been the home team ALL THREE TIMES in London. It sucks.

  4. A world champion has spoken..

    We expect everyone to pay attention

    Ravens by Fitty. #Ravens #Steelers

  5. Another example of the tone deaf NFL trying to milk money out of playing in London. The quality of play suffers and its just a logistical problem for teams to go there. The fact that you continue to hear persistent talk of putting a team there someday is absurd.

  6. What was the attendance?…is it really worth it to uproot two teams to travel over the pond and back? I would fiqure this would mess their routine up the week before, the week they play, and the week after. It’s a gimmic that puts a unfair burden on 6 teams a year.

  7. computojon says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:30 pm
    Another consideration is that if a team is the home team for the London game, it shouldn’t have to be the home team for its next London game. I’m a Ram fan, and we have been the home team ALL THREE TIMES in London. It sucks.

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    Talk to your buddy and owner, Stevie “Used Car Salesman” Bisciotti. There is technically more money off the tv deal in London than in Baltimore…Hence, why Jax plays there so much, soon to be the London Jaguars.

    I warned, literally, of all of this the last 3 years.

    Buffalo better watch out, too, because the Beijing Bills may not be far off. That crap stadium has Pegula “hemorrhaging” money compared to other owners with the new stadiums, too.

  8. The Bears, Bengals, Bills, Broncos, Browns, Cardinals, Chiefs, Colts, Cowboys, Chargers, Falcons, Jets, Raiders, Ravens, Steelers and REDSKINS have each been on the London schedule once.

  9. All snark aside, overseas games are stupid. Other than the Super Bowl and the Hall of Fame game, all NFL games should be played in the home stadium of one of the teams involved.

  10. Well, the Ravens lease at M&T Bank stadium does not allow them to play home games anywhere else, so they are safe there, and the NFL’s own rules only allow a team to be the away team overseas once every 4 years. Odds are Harbaugh will be gone before then. The rules state you can be the home team there 1x a year but an away team no more than 1x every 4 years.

  11. firerogergoodellnow says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:42 pm
    The Bears, Bengals, Bills, Broncos, Browns, Cardinals, Chiefs, Colts, Cowboys, Chargers, Falcons, Jets, Raiders, Ravens, Steelers and REDSKINS have each been on the London schedule once.

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    Note how many are part of the Protected 6:

    Ravens, Jets, Broncos, Colts, Steelers

    That’s 5 out of the 6…..

  12. aarons444 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:50 pm
    Goodell and Kraft keep pushing these games, Patriots should move there if they want it so bad
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    Amen!

    Make it so.. literally!!!!

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    You need to move to rural Afghanistan so that smell can go away.

    Make it so! Literally!

  13. There is no bigger excuse making whiner in the league, not even Tomlin reaches Harbaugh’s heights of excuse making.

  14. FatherSarducci says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    Goodell and Kraft keep pushing these games, Patriots should move there if they want it so bad

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    False.

    ALL THE OWNERS ARE PUSHING LONDON AND BEIJING.

    Kraft just happens to sit on the chair for the tv/network committee because he is friendly with Les Moonves of CBS/Viacom, essentially.

    Get your facts straight.

  15. The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.

  16. 44-10 The ravens have not shown up yet. Just another loud mouth Harbaugh. The whole Ravens team like the rest of the NFL kneelers are scum.

  17. They need to stop making this about building up a fan base for the London Jaguars and just either move them and another team, or give up on this stupid idea. If they’re to keep doing games in the UK it needs to be better matchups, and every team must be going comparable amount of times.

  18. You need to move to rural Afghanistan so that smell can go away.
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    I would imagine the South Pole is the only place far enough away to escape your stench.

    .. might be a blessing. I probably wouldn’t have the interwebs up there, so I wouldn’t have to read your insane drivel either.

  19. Kneeled for the US anthem, but then stood for the “God Save the Queen.” Why even come back? This was your opportunity to escape this prison and live in paradise. Of course, then you would have to get real jobs instead of playing a kid’s game.

  20. tinye67 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:58 pm
    The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.

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    Of course it’s ridiculous. How do they even know a 23 year old kid from Florida wants to grow up in London or maybe raise a family there?

    It’s stuff like that is troubling.

    If they want to partner with investors that want to start another football league in Europe or Asia, fine.

    But, leave the NFL alone as a North American sport. Mexico MIGHT be a viable option but it would need to be in some Americanized resort kind of an area that is safe and away from gangs and drug lord headquarters.

    How much money do these greedy clowns need to make?

  21. The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.
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    Flight time NY to London – 7 hours 5 minutes

    Flight time NY to LA – 6 hours 5 minutes

  22. London games were never intended to push football in Europe, that’s not going to happen ever. The intention of the London games is to highjack our Sundays, literally. The NFL wants users to watch games (and advertising from 8 am till 11 pm). That’s a sad fact.

  23. From the NY Times:

    “The N.F.L. must deal with television networks, who prefer that the good teams play at good hours, not early in the morning on United States time. And popular teams that pack their stadiums are reluctant to give up home games. Teams with less devoted fan bases are happy to do so because they make more money selling tickets in London.”

    It’s not about fairness, it’s about money….

  24. weepingjebus says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:03 pm
    Kneeled for the US anthem, but then stood for the “God Save the Queen.” Why even come back? This was your opportunity to escape this prison and live in paradise. Of course, then you would have to get real jobs instead of playing a kid’s game.
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    This argument is so stupid it makes my brain bleed. Why would the Neil for the British anthem? They’re not protesting inequality in England, they’re protesting inequality in the United States.

    Good Lord, the fact that you need that explained to you speaks volumes about our education system

  25. aarons444 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm
    The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.
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    Flight time NY to London – 7 hours 5 minutes

    Flight time NY to LA – 6 hours 5 minutes

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    But, that leaves the entire midwest and west coast with much longer flights. That’s at least 50% of the league, professor.

    Maybe they’ll teach you about percentages in 7th grade math this year.

  26. Btw, Texans did have to play a regular game in Mexico just last year (lost to Raiders). And though I sympathize with fans losing a home game, I do like the extra London game in the morning slot.

    Anyway, like it or not, NFL is pushing ahead with this and investing in a retractable field to be installed in Tottenham Hotspur’s upcoming new stadium due in a TEN YEAR DEAL. Virgin Atlantic are still on track to have it’s next-gen supersonic (Mach 2.2) jet in commercial use by 2023 (a 40-seater, so you may need two for a team, but the maker Boom now has 75 orders). Once they’re flying a London franchise becomes viable (hell, even now, for an East Coast team it’s only 2 hours longer than it is to Seattle), but from 2023 NY to London should be 3hrs.

  27. Can’t believe this crybaby won a Super Bowl, always whining. Jim Harbaugh deserved that SB instead, this dude can’t stop whining about everything.

  28. Ravens lost a portion of their fan base by taking a knee, lost more with a horrendous performance!
    Barbs won’t be around for the next trip!

  29. tajuara says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:13 pm
    London games were never intended to push football in Europe, that’s not going to happen ever. The intention of the London games is to highjack our Sundays, literally. The NFL wants users to watch games (and advertising from 8 am till 11 pm). That’s a sad fact.

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    You are delusional.

    They’re using the tv ratings as a way to prove to local investors, that yes, the product can and will be supported enough to profit even more by having a team physically in London at some point.

    Yes.

    Kahn re-instated his team to play more games there immediately when the opportunity arose, and that’s not a coincidence nor is it only for the tv money out of London/UK.

  30. Every time the Ravens lose I wait to see what the excuse will be.that I know will be forthcoming. I am never disappointed.

  31. tylawspick6 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:39 pm
    aarons444 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:08 pm
    The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.
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    Flight time NY to London – 7 hours 5 minutes

    Flight time NY to LA – 6 hours 5 minutes

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    But, that leaves the entire midwest and west coast with much longer flights. That’s at least 50% of the league, professor.

    Maybe they’ll teach you about percentages in 7th grade math this year.

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    Im pretty sure that was the point he was trying to make there dude. When I read his post I think he means that a West Coast team (in his example LA) would have to fly both those times put together.

  32. So the Ravens organization don’t like England and don’t like America. They are going to run out of places to protest against soon.

  33. The NFL needs to give up on this London obsession. It would be near impossible to place a team in London. Can you imagine the wear and tear on an NFL franchise in London if they had fly across the Atlantic (and then much of the U.S.) for 10 games a season?? No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.
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    Flight time NY to London – 7 hours 5 minutes

    Flight time NY to LA – 6 hours 5 minutes
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    There’s a reason the NFL did a realignment in 2002 and it was to cut down on some of the travel nonsense and build rivalries (remember, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina used to be in the NFC West and Arizona was in the NFC East). Apparently, at some point in the past, the league DID give a damn about the quality of product on the field. London is just a cash grab for the owners along with Thursday games and an 18-game schedule, players and the sport be damned.

  34. But, that leaves the entire midwest and west coast with much longer flights. That’s at least 50% of the league, professor.

    Maybe they’ll teach you about percentages in 7th grade math this year.
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    I trust that a $13 BILLION/year buisness can figure out logistics. IF they want to.

    Compliments to your debate class teacher. Questioning someone’s intelligence is a sure win every time……………………

  35. London is the 18th largest metro area in the world.

    Slightly larger than Los Angeles, 2nd only to New York City as far as other US cities.

    If the NFL wants to make this work, short-term or regarding relocation, they will.

  36. Players and teams don’t want to go to London. Then they should forfeit the collective revenue that comes from those games, especially teams who refuse to give up a home game.

  37. ” No free agents would want to play there. And any team in their division would absolutely hate it.”

    I don’t know about that. If the choice was living and playing in one of the most exciting cities in the world or say, Cleveland, Minneapolis or some of the other crappier NFL cities I think there would be plenty of players that took that opportunity.

  38. I like how he brought up the bus ride time and some other stuff like that is why they were beyond pathetic. This guy must have been a Clinton supporter. Maybe he can blame Russia for their horrible play as well.

  39. Harbaugh has the London excuse out of the way for sucking this past week. If their offense keeps putting up craptastic games, do they have their annual fire the offensive coordinator or perhaps Harbaugh & Ozzie take Some responsibility ???

  40. aarons444 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    aarons444 says:
    September 26, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    I would imagine the South Pole is the only place far enough away to escape your stench.

    .. might be a blessing. I probably wouldn’t have the interwebs up there…
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    You seem to have casually relinquished your self assigned but thoroughly undeserved intellectual high ground. There is literally nowhere on Earth you could be a native of and have the South Pole be “up there.” Compliments to your geography teacher.

  41. What took so long, John? “I don’t want to play the Steelers in prime time.” “I don’t want to play in London.”

    Maybe coaching is just not for you.

  42. If I took a shellacking like the way the Raven’s did on Sunday I would not want to play there either. No to mention they were so preoccupied about taking a knee for the Anthem.

  43. I just returned to Australia from the US…. Terrible jet lag every time. It affects your ability to physically function correctly for several days. You feel sick without actually being sick. No doubt, it affects a team’s schedule the week of, and the week after. So I completely understand where Harbaugh is coming from. Now, if you’ll excuse me, it’s noon here and time for bed… ugh.

  44. I have never viewed the Ravens as a team that makes excuses, except when they’re concerning Joe “perpetual mediocrity” Flacco of course, but there’s a first time for everything. Blaming their ass-whooping by, of all people Jacksonville, on playing in London is pitiful. Sure they have an advantage somewhat since they’ve played there so many times but then again, half their defense are in their first season with them, not to mention the fact that now, all but 7 teams have not had an international game but I don’t remember ever seeing such a lack of accountability for a teams performance since they began the annual international series. Harbaugh admitted he and the organization screwed the pooch on preparation for the trip and making appropriate accommodations during their stay. It’s an embarrassment for sure but instead of taking responsibility as a coach/GM/player and organization they make excuses and vows not to do it again unless forced to do so.

  45. I don’t ever want the Packers to have play in London. Luckily, they draw so well that teams are reluctant to lose that home game with them in their home stadium.

  46. What I want to know is why are there six teams that have never had to play there when there are others that have been there multiple times (some playing three or four and one with five)? Sounds like some favoritism going on.

  47. Nothing wrong with London, he just has to do a better job of coaching. They were never in the game, made Bortles look a Hall of Famer.If that keeps happening that seat is gonna blazing hot.

  48. Just like the NBA has a European league. The NFL should do the same if they want their brand over their. Sending any team over there, is ridiculous.

  49. FatherSarducci says:
    September 26, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    Goodell and Kraft keep pushing these games, Patriots should move there if they want it so bad
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    The Patriots could play anywhere on the globe & still mop the floor with your trash pile franchise on any day that ends in “y”

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