Vikings don’t want to expose Bridgewater to slippery field in London

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Lost in the fact that Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater has been cleared to practice but not play is the reality that, for the kind of injury Bridgewater sustained (and in light of the position he plays), clearance to practice is clearance to play.

Which means that he’s good to go, right now, if the Vikings want him to play.

But the Vikings don’t want him to play, right now. As one source explained it, the Vikings and Bridgewater definitely don’t want him to play next week in London, given the notoriously slippery surfaces of the soccer pitches that periodically transmogrify into gridirons.

So he’ll be back on the roster for Week 10, the first post-bye game to be played by the Vikings. The question then becomes when he’ll actually play.

That one will be more complicated, given that Case Keenum has played very well this season in the absence of Bridgewater and Sam Bradford. Keenum has been good, but Bridgewater could be better — and he could take the Vikings farther than Keenum ever will.

So go ahead and put this one in the “good problem to have” category, even though that good problem quickly could become just a problem.

81 responses to “Vikings don’t want to expose Bridgewater to slippery field in London

  1. Until we see Bridgewater do sprints, agility drills, throw on the run, etc, I’m skeptical that he is ready to pplay yet

  2. Until we see Bridgewater do sprints, agility drills, throw on the run, etc, I’m skeptical that he is ready to pplay yet

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    Uh, he’s been doing that for months now… Posting to Instagram. The first hit will be big… especially from a psychological standpoint.

  3. Let’s pump the brakes, as they say. He hasn’t been in a real game for a season and a half, so what’s the rush? I’m hopeful he can play again, but bring him along very slowly and carefully. I’d only put him in when they are far enough ahead or behind so the pressure is off him. It’d be a low risk game-play decision.

  4. Case Keenum has played very well this season…for a career backup. He was not good yesterday and is too inconsistent to expect a full season from him. After the bye week, the leash is going to get shorter and shorter.

  5. Well, I’m not sure I would let him play on the turf at US Bank either then. Players slide all over that turf like they’re playing on the wet grass at Lambeau.

  6. I wouldn’t call Keenum “good.” He’s played as well as you can expect a back up to play. But if you watched yesterday’s game, that by no means could be described as “good.” Another wrinkle is not just whether Bridgewater is healthy enough to play, but would he play better than Keenum? Keep in mind he just started practicing for the first time in 14 months just last week. Think about how rusty some elite veteran quarterbacks look at the beginning of the season. The best hope unfortunately is that Sam’s knee miraculously heals in the next few weeks in order to make a post season run, cause even with this lights out defense, a Keenum led team won’t go far in the playoffs.

  7. adelphos33 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:07 am
    Until we see Bridgewater do sprints, agility drills, throw on the run, etc, I’m skeptical that he is ready to pplay yet
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    Pretty sure that he’s been doing that already, but I’m guessing that it comes down to what the coaches see… not what you see.

  8. Case Keenum makes a few decent throws a game and usually runs for a first down or two, which is just enough for people to forget about the myriad of bad throws and bad decisions he also makes. He’s as mediocre as a QB can be.

  9. @ in teddy we trust…..Tb had about a dozen or so games of similar production in 2014 an 2015, Keenum seat isnt getting hotter hes the only qb healthy. TB hasnt taken a meaningful snap since jan 3rd 2016. I doubt the best play is to throw him in there while leading the division to play with guys hes had limited or no time to work with…unless Sb gets healthy you ride keenum until he gets hurt or is entirely ineffective

  10. The Vikings aren’t a serious contender no matter who is playing QB. They are only relevant because Rodgers is out.

  11. bringbackkosar says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:14 am
    pretty sure they could beat the Browns without a QB at all
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I wouldn’t get too over confident, there are a lot of HIGH 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round talents on that team! And the Vikings aren’t a real power house offensively.
    The problem is with the Browns assistant Coaches. No detail to the positions. They need to quit changing Head Coaches and get rid of some of those old timers at assistant, pick up some of those upcoming College assistants who are hungry!
    The Browns are playing for pride right now, and there is nothing more dangerous than a team like that playing a team that has been winning! All Cleveland needs is a spark, and an International trip just might provide it. It wasn’t that long ago Minnesota couldn’t beat the teams they were supposed to beat!
    Then again the Defense is the best Minnesota has had for a long time! Spielman needs to invest some high-mid round picks in QB’s the next few years to score another Zak Prescott.

  12. “Vikings don’t want to expose Bridgewater to slippery field in London.”

    Read, “We’re playing the Clowns.’

  13. I still don’t understand this. If Teddy’s knee isn’t 100% healed, he shouldn’t be out there, even at practice, period! But the fact that he has been “medically cleared” to play football, should mean that his knee is as strong, if not stronger, than it was pre-injury. Right? So if that’s the case, his knee isn’t going to get any stronger or more stable than it is now, so the risk of playing him now shouldn’t be any greater than in 2 weeks or 2 years. Let’s ramp up the practice reps and see how he looks in this offense. My guess is that even a rusty Teddy is better than what Keenum has showed us the past two weeks.

  14. rho1953 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:34 am
    The Vikings aren’t a serious contender no matter who is playing QB. They are only relevant because Rodgers is out.
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    AWW there go the Packer fans playing poor me again!
    Rodgers may not be the same after that Surgery! I had that same thing. He is going to lose about 20% of his arm strength, there will be less ZIP on the ball and Hail Mary Passes will fall about 5 yards shorter.

  15. Keenum has been up and down, but play him and keep Teddy on the sidelines until he is 100% ready to go. Don’t want him going down again.

  16. I love that Packer fans have pretty much disappeared from Vikings stories.

    What happened? Hows Rodgers doing?

  17. ===============================
    AWW there go the Packer fans playing poor me again!
    Rodgers may not be the same after that Surgery! I had that same thing. He is going to lose about 20% of his arm strength, there will be less ZIP on the ball and Hail Mary Passes will fall about 5 yards shorter.
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    They have a lot of practice at it. I’m sure they remember the 80’s and beginning of the 90’s. Wait until Rodgers is done for good and they have season after season of their QB’s throwing for 75 yards a game like yesterday.

  18. rho1953 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:34 am
    The Vikings aren’t a serious contender no matter who is playing QB. They are only relevant because Rodgers is out.
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    Oh the pain packer fans feel.
    Apparently, the ENTIRE packer organization is irrelevant without Rodgers.

  19. Best case scenario for the Vikes would be that Bradford is 100% after the bye week. Teddy would be put on IR for the rest of the year and they keep his rights for next yr. Bradford is their best QB this year if 100%! Case is valuable in spot duty. Teddy will be very rusty if he has to play, and tentative. That’s understandable too.

    If Bradford is not healthy after the bye, it will be tough to see him go on IR to make room for TB. But it would have to be done. I wouldn’t trust Case or TB to win a tough game on the road like Car, Atl or Det.

  20. If you look at the stats you’d think Keenum has played well, but if you watch the games you’ll know he’s been slightly-above-average at best. He overthrows a lot of deep breaking routes, and often times refuses to step up into the pocket – instead backing up and nearly taking sacks or making poor throws as a result. He also has the benefit of a great O-line, great receivers, and a great running game (even since Cook has been out) that have all elevated his optics.

    In a really wonky year with injuries all over and no dominant teams, the Vikings stellar defense and ball control offense might just be good enough to win a SuperBowl with Keenum back there. But at some point you’ll need him to be better, and I don’t know that he can do better than he is. The upside with Teddy is way higher than it is with Keenum.

  21. rho1953 says:

    October 23, 2017 at 11:34 am

    The Vikings aren’t a serious contender no matter who is playing QB. They are only relevant because Rodgers is out.

    and yet gb has been to 1 super bowl in the 10 seasons that Rodgers started..2008-2017..scratch this year off too..i bet the other 31 teams at the beginning of the year go “oh crap, Rodgers is healthy, might as well phone it in all year”

  22. rho1953 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:34 am
    The Vikings aren’t a serious contender no matter who is playing QB. They are only relevant because Rodgers is out.

    **

    ANY TEAM, IN ANY DIVISION OR CONFERENCE, DOESN’T DESERVE TO WIN THE SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR BECAUSE RODGERS IS OUT! ITS A GIMME FOR ANY NFL TEAM…BECAUSE RODGERS IS HURT. WHOEVER WINS THEIR RESPECTIVE DIVISIONS, OR SUPERBOWL, OR EVEN ANY GAMES IS A DIRECT RESULT OF RODGERS BEING HURT.

    Right Pack fans?

  23. 1969nflchampionskansascitychiefs says:

    October 23, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    This still won’t change the FACT that the Vikings have ZERO Championships!

    ZERO.

    and green bay has 2, count em 2 since 1968…50 years with 2

  24. Cleared to practice is not the same as cleared to play. Anybody who played contact sports should understand that. In practice Teddy doesn’t have 300lb men trying their best to crush him. In other words, the pressing need for mobility is more amplified in a game situation.

    On a sidenote I think they’re crazy if they play Bridgewater right now. Stick with Case he’s winning games. It’s not like Bridgewater is a known commodity anyway. Guy never lit the league on fire by any stretch.

  25. This is such a trap game for the Vikings. I have no problems seeing them choke this one. Greg Williams is going to take out as many players as he can.

  26. In all honesty, Keenum is still your best option at QB.
    That is until Bradford is healthy enough to take snaps and resume play.
    As fans, and this organization, should all have a clear understanding of what kind of QB Bridgewater is.
    And I’ve never seen him be a difference maker when he was 100% healthy.
    Keenum is a competent enough passer to get you wins as long as your running game doesn’t falter.

  27. tqaztec says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:32 pm
    This is such a trap game for the Vikings. I have no problems seeing them choke this one. Greg Williams is going to take out as many players as he can.
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    How is Cleveland going to score more than 10 points? How?! Joe Thomas is out now. The line alone will have 5 sacks. Barr 1. Smith 1. At least.

  28. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:07 pm
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    AWW there go the Packer fans playing poor me again!
    Rodgers may not be the same after that Surgery! I had that same thing. He is going to lose about 20% of his arm strength, there will be less ZIP on the ball and Hail Mary Passes will fall about 5 yards shorter.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    They have a lot of practice at it. I’m sure they remember the 80’s and beginning of the 90’s. Wait until Rodgers is done for good and they have season after season of their QB’s throwing for 75 yards a game like yesterday.
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    I do find it extremely amusing that after watching the Barney’s “Franchise” QB do next to nothing for 2 full seasons, they’re all so quick to judge Hundley after only 7 quarters of play.
    Well, they certainly are living up to their reputations as complete hypocrites.
    Oh and, have a nice day.

  29. hardheadedrb says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:12 pm
    I wouldn’t trust Case or TB to win a tough game on the road like Car, Atl or Det.

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    Have you even been watching all the games lately? Those three teams should be afraid they’ll be playing on the road in Minnesota.

  30. You don’t need to go to London for bad fields, and make their soccer the excuse, there
    are plenty here in the USA.

  31. contra74 says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:05 pm
    I love that Packer fans have pretty much disappeared from Vikings stories.

    What happened? Hows Rodgers doing?

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    I love that Viking fans seem to be completely obsessed with Packer fans. Weird, it’s like they have nothing else to look forward to.

    Aaron is doing well. Recovering from surgery and hopefully will be throwing in about 6 weeks. Thanks for asking.

  32. After three weeks, Teddy has to be put on the active roster or put on PUP for the rest of the year. If he looks good in practice and they put him on the active roster, it would be ridiculous to not play him just because you’re afraid he might get hurt again or he would be too rusty. He can either play or he can’t.

    Of course you don’t make a change if you continue to win with Case, but the only way you’re going to win some of these games coming up is if Case plays well. So far, the Vikings haven’t really needed a lot of offense in their wins. But the second half of the schedule is tougher and I’m not sure Case will be up to the task. If the offense doesn’t get to the level it needs to be to win those games, you have a guy on your bench that you see as a franchise quarterback. Put him in and see what he can do, or watch your season slip away because you’re afraid he won’t play as well as the backup? That’s ridiculous.

  33. Just let him play the home games. The Vikings could very well have a home field advantage throughout the playoffs… including the super bowl.

  34. As fans, and this organization, should all have a clear understanding of what kind of QB Bridgewater is.
    And I’ve never seen him be a difference maker when he was 100% healthy.

    You must have missed his 5 fourth quarter comeback drives in just 2 seasons then.

    Norv leaving was the best thing to ever happen to Teddy. Shurmurs offense is tailor made for him. I expect him to be an upgrade over Sam. Defenses will have to honor the rollout. And he has pinpoint accuracy at short to intermediate accuracy. And let’s not forget his deep balls we’re on point before the injury.

    The only question is whether his knee can take hit. If so, this offense is going to explode with him behind center.

  35. I actually can’t wait to see Teddy with the new Viking offense. I think it fits perfectly. Vikings won’t play Teddy if he’s not ready, but I think he will be soon. Case is doing fine against average squads, we need Teddy or Bradford to win deep in to the playoffs. Our Defense is the best in the league and will keep any contest close and give us a chance to win. What a story Teddy hoisting the Superbowl trophy over his head would be. For now, let’s overtake Philadelphia for the #1 seed in the NFC.

  36. Well myyy myy myyyyy

    The British are officially tougher than us now. We’re too finicky to run on grass, and people go on forums complaining about their favorite athletes having to touch the actual earth with the bottom of their shoes while they compete.

  37. I think Teddy has a bigger upside than Case but we don’t really know. I’m pulling for Teddy and I hope he makes a full recovery and plays for many years. However, I wonder what the Vikings could get for him. His value both tangible and intangible is based on hope.

  38. It is a TEAM SPORT. The Viking fans and other teams fans understand that when your # 1 QB goes down, there a no excuses the rest of the TEAM has to pick it up and play well despite the most important position missing their # 1 guy. The Vikings have not had their # 1 guy now for all of last season and this season. But Packer fans as soon as they lose their # 1 guy all bets are off. Sorry your guy got hurt but as the guy on the Heard said, “If you don’t want your QB to get hurt, stay in the pocket.” and then he rattled off the number of injuries to QB that have occurred and most were runners too. If you have scrambling QB’s like, Cam, Rogers, RGIII, Tarkenton, Culpepper they are going to get injured. It is a matter of when not if.

  39. “..London, given the notoriously slippery surfaces of the soccer pitches that periodically transmogrify into gridirons.”
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    Nonsense. This all goes back to the 2007 and the newly-laid grass facing unprecidented rains when the new Wembley had just opened and NFL were the first game played there when frankly they should have postponed. Ever since then the stadium went all-out to apply the the most expensive hybrid grass-turf field that money can buy. But some teams – especially dome ones – still can’t get it into their heads to use longer winter cleats because they think it’ll interfere with their quick game. And of course many teams don’t want to play there so use any snipe they can. There are arguements for and many against playing in London, but “a slippery pitch” isn’t one of them.

  40. wafflestomp says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    I do find it extremely amusing that after watching the Barney’s “Franchise” QB do next to nothing for 2 full seasons, they’re all so quick to judge Hundley after only 7 quarters of play.
    Well, they certainly are living up to their reputations as complete hypocrites.
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    I, for one, am not judging Hundley after seven quarters. I will point out, however, that it was you and/or your ilk who kept telling us how great Hundley was before he had ever played a game. We were told you could trade him for a first or second round pick. We were told he was better than any quarterback on the Vikings roster. Now here he is in his third year, it’s time to show what you can do, and he hasn’t been good yet. I’m willing to be patient, but so far it looks like you guys may have overestimated his ability.

    I’d also like to point out that Teddy is 17-11 as a starter, despite not being in an offense that was built to take advantage of his strengths.

  41. Here’s a radical thought: DON’T EXPOSE ANY PLAYER TO LOUSY FIELD CONDITIONS. Soldier Field is an abomination. ALL of the London fields are horrible. Lambeau Field yesterday was horrible. The NFL has the money to rid themselves of all of the lousy fields. It’s inexcusable that they haven’t.

  42. Could be that last time we faced Gregg Williams he was with the Rams and tried to take Teddy’s head off with cheap shots. Dirtiest coach in the history of the league and should have been banned for life after bountygate.

  43. “That one will be more complicated, given that Case Keenum has played very well this season in the absence of Bridgewater and Sam Bradford. Keenum has been good, but Bridgewater could be better — and he could take the Vikings farther than Keenum ever will.”

    Disagree with the above assessment. Bridgewater is just as likely to play worse than Keenum – especially if he is mobility compromised.

  44. He played very well before the injury, but that was a long time ago. Who knows what kind of player he will be this year. I wish him well but don’t expect a lot for at least 5 games in. If still healthy after that he could be a great option for the Vikings

  45. That is funny the Vikings don’t want to take chances with Bridgewater but they run out a obviously injured Sam Bradford who didn’t look like he wanted to be out there. Love consistent decision making.

  46. Twickenham isn’t Wembley.

    Wembley is a football (soccer) stadium first and foremost, whereas Twickenham is the home of English rugby.

    Still, I disagree that clearance to practice is clearance to play. Bridgewater needs to build his game fitness up whilst also getting in tune with a whole new offense run by a coordinator he hasn’t played under before.

  47. @tjacks….which down the field accuracy of teddys are you talking about, of his throws in 2015 only 42 traveled more then 20 yards, he completed 11, that is not pinpoint, he threw 98 passes behind the line of scrimmage…an the rest of the non sense you ramble on about is just that…shurmer has never worked with Tb so the offense he runs isnt tailored to Tb..an im sure a qb who just about lost his leg is going to running the boot leg, they are not going to let him run much, see RGIII after a less severe injury

  48. conormacleod says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:52 pm
    hardheadedrb says:
    October 23, 2017 at 12:12 pm
    I wouldn’t trust Case or TB to win a tough game on the road like Car, Atl or Det.

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    Have you even been watching all the games lately? Those three teams should be afraid they’ll be playing on the road in Minnesota.
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    Dude, Minny plays at Atl, at Car and at Det.

  49. RG3 ran the bootleg with the intention of running the ball a majority of the time. TB is a passer, the bootleg was used to buy him time to find receivers, he only runs as a last resort.

  50. Mike Zimmer just said in his Monday morning press conference that this report is false and he doesn’t know who came up with it.

  51. tjacks gets a little overly excited sometimes, but there’s no doubt that Shurmur’s offense this year is better suited to Teddy’s skill set than Norv’s offense that was built around Peterson running the ball 25 times a game. Remember how they spent the entire offseason building the offense around Teddy and then figured out in the first game that Peterson couldn’t handle it? They reconfigured the entire offense between Week 1 and Week 2 and turned Teddy into a game manager. Look at how he did toward the end of his rookie year when the offense was really his and he was feeling comfortable in it. There are a lot of question marks around Teddy but there’s something about him that suggests he can be really good.

  52. In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 23, 2017 at 11:12 am
    Case Keenum has played very well this season…for a career backup. He was not good yesterday and is too inconsistent to expect a full season from him. After the bye week, the leash is going to get shorter and shorter.

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    I’m with you and think saying “he has played well this year” is a bit of a stretch. Team is winning like it’s supposed to, but the last couple weeks the O is putting the D in too many tough spots, that won’t equal wins when they play good teams.

  53. That is funny the Vikings don’t want to take chances with Bridgewater but they run out a obviously injured Sam Bradford who didn’t look like he wanted to be out there. Love consistent decision making…

    That was 3 weeks before Bridgewater came off the PUP…

  54. They NEVER play soccer at Twickenham, only Rugby, perfect surface for turf-based teams. If players listen to equipment trainers and use screw-ins and not moulded cleats, there should be no problem with the playing surface. More likely a convenient excuse to bring Bridgewater along carefully.

  55. rugolin says:
    October 23, 2017 at 2:20 pm
    That is funny the Vikings don’t want to take chances with Bridgewater but they run out a obviously injured Sam Bradford who didn’t look like he wanted to be out there. Love consistent decision making.

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    There was no visible structural damage to Bradford’s knee, all they had to go by was what Bradford was telling them. He told them it felt fine, or good enough to play. They took his word for it. It may have felt fine, or not, before the game. It definitely got worse early in the game.

  56. I would not let Teddy play at all this year. The have Keenum, Bradford and then if need be see what Sloter can do.

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