Mike Zimmer “over” past complaints about Gregg Williams’ defenses

AP

In 2015, the Vikings saw quarterback Teddy Bridgewater knocked out of a game against the Rams when Rams safety Lamarcus Joyner elbowed Bridgewater in the head.

Vikings coach Mike Zimmer called the hit a “cheap shot” and said that then-Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ units have a history of delivering such blows. Williams was suspended by the league for a year as a result of the Saints bounty scandal.

With Williams now running the Browns defense and the two teams meeting in London this weekend, Zimmer was asked about his past comments about the coordinator and said he’s “over that.”

“I think they’ve been playing very clean,” Zimmer said, via Cleveland.com. “They play hard and they play physical, like all teams should, but no, I haven’t seen anything like [a cheap shot.]”

Zimmer went on to call the Cleveland defense “stout up front,” although they will be without defensive end Myles Garrett after leaving him in the U.S. with a concussion. That and a continued lack of cheap shots from the Browns should make life easier for Vikings quarterback Case Keenum.

38 responses to “Mike Zimmer “over” past complaints about Gregg Williams’ defenses

  1. Probably a good answer now that your team is finding itself in the cross hairs for “cheap shots”.

    Based on the indisputable amount of talent the vikings apparently have in all aspects and how they have under performed with said talent, I give it two years and this guy will be out of work or coordinating again.

    All that talent and 1 playoff appearance for a loss?

  2. It would ring hollow if he complained about a cheap shot defense when he has the biggest cheap shot defense in the league.

  3. I’m sure Gregg Williams hasn’t forgotten what was said two years ago. I fully expect him to give a “kill the head” speech prior to the game.

  4. Until Williams is fired, we will not know how good Peppers is. He’s got him playing literally 25 yards down field most of the game, which obviously takes Peppers out of the game completely. It’s a terrible scheme.

  5. pkrlvr says:
    October 27, 2017 at 8:37 am
    Well if anyone knows about cheap shots….

    —————-

    ……..it’s Clay Matthews….and the Packers fans who cheer for him….

  6. pkrlvr says:

    Well if anyone knows about cheap shots….

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    It would be you, who has watched Clay Mathews for his entire NFL career. And cheered for all those cheap shots.

  7. Packers fans are still dillusional about ‘cheap shot’. No fine, no penalty, no suspension = clean hit. Get over it

  8. Maybe a Cleveland defensive player will see Keenum roll right, watch him throw a pass, watch him slow down (because the play is over,) then take three steps, lower his shoulder, wrap Keenum up, lift him off the ground, and drive his body through to the ground while dropping his full body weight on top of him in an attempt to injure or cause harm?

    I’m betting Zimmer would exclaim “Nice play, great tackle!”

    What do you guys think?

  9. pkrlvr says:
    October 27, 2017 at 8:37 am
    Well if anyone knows about cheap shots….
    ////////
    After last nights cheap shot on QB, I think we all know what it looks like. So maybe now you can stop whining about that perfect form tackle Barr had a while back.

  10. ad296 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 9:27 am
    Packers fans are still dillusional about ‘cheap shot’. No fine, no penalty, no suspension = clean hit. Get over it
    ////////////////////////////////

    No penalty, no fine, no suspension doesn’t mean it wasn’t cheap and unnecessary.

    Don’t forget, OJ Simpson was found not guilty. The end-results don’t always align.

  11. Pretty rich of packer fans lamenting “cheap shots” when they have Clay Matthews as the poster boy of cheap shots!

    The Vikings single handily ended your season, so I understand your venom.

    Think of your time this season as a time for reflection. Look inwardly at your team and your failings…..back-up qb, defense, etc.

    The packers have over relied on Rodgers for years. Conversely, the Vikings are starting their 3rd best qb on their roster, and they are winning. They have rebuilt last year’s oline, totally, have excellent special teams, and one of the stoutest defenses in the league. An above average Case Keenum has done OK, not exceptional…..but we still win. We have depth, and are well coached.

    Don’t get mad at the Vikes…..get mad at McCarthy and Thompson!

  12. Packer fans … give us a break. This is football so stop crying. No other team and fan base would blubber this much about a legal hit, grow a pair and man up.

  13. No penalty, no fine, no suspension doesn’t mean it wasn’t cheap and unnecessary.
    Don’t forget, OJ Simpson was found not guilty. The end-results don’t always align.

    Are you saying the Juice was guilty?? He’s searching high and low right now in FL for the killer that everyone has just let wander!

    The hit was a perfect form tackle, head up, facemask into the shoulder pad, not the neck area, he didn’t lift and drop him like the Raven tackler did last night on a Dolphin. He didn’t get up celebrating the hit like he knew he hurt him. Its just football man. Guys collide, they can get hurt. The name on the back of the jersey doesn’t mean he gets preferred treatment from other players, maybe the refs, but not the players.

  14. stellarperformance says:
    October 27, 2017 at 9:37 am
    Maybe a Cleveland defensive player will see Keenum roll right, watch him throw a pass, watch him slow down (because the play is over,) then take three steps, lower his shoulder, wrap Keenum up, lift him off the ground, and drive his body through to the ground while dropping his full body weight on top of him in an attempt to injure or cause harm?

    I’m betting Zimmer would exclaim “Nice play, great tackle!”

    What do you guys think…

    I think the entire Vikings team would get on social media and cry for justice, or maybe Keenum could go on a late night talk show and talk about how life has treated him so badly…knowing full well his GM made absolutely no effort to provide them with a quality roster capable of losses to key players….On second though, they might just put in Bridewater, come together as a team and win the game.

  15. Hmmm… Bridgewater DESTROYS his knee untouched while dropping back to pass in PRACTICE, Bradford is out still from another knee injury no one saw and have no idea where or when he got it; But Rodgers who just missed his first game in four years, is made of glass? Right…

  16. Though I will admit, it would be poetic justice to see Greg Williams defense lay some cheap shots on a few Viking players, just to listen to their hypocritical fan base whine, I would never hope or wish for such a thing.
    Other fans may degrade themselves by reveling in another person’s injury and pain, but sometimes, it’s really all they got.

  17. stellarperformance says:
    October 27, 2017 at 9:37 am
    What do you guys think?
    =====================================
    I think that between your season being over coupled with the likelihood that rodgers will never be the same player again has made you incapable of objectivity. And given the volume and tone of your posts, bitter as well.

    Your anger should be directed at a quarterback who thought he was invincible and consequently played in a reckless fashion for years. Your anger should be directed at a quarterback who apparently doesn’t know how to fall properly despite over a decade in the league. Your anger should also be directed at a general manager that didn’t think rodgers was worth keeping guys like T.J. Lang and Josh Sitton to block for him. Instead, your anger is focused on a guy who made a textbook tackle at the hips.

    That’s what I (and I suspect many others) “think”.

  18. I remember that cheap shot on Teddy. And I remember how the Packer trolls called Teddy soft and Viking fans whiny. And that hit was penalized and the player was fined.

    Funny how the Packer trolls change their tune when it’s their QB. And Barr’s hit was completely legal!!

    They are still in the “anger” stage of their recovery process. Time to get over it, stop blaming and lashing out at others, and move on already. Nobody else cares.

  19. stellarperformance says:
    October 27, 2017 at 9:37 am

    Maybe a Cleveland defensive player will see Keenum roll right, watch him throw a pass, watch him slow down (because the play is over,) then take three steps, lower his shoulder, wrap Keenum up, lift him off the ground, and drive his body through to the ground while dropping his full body weight on top of him in an attempt to injure or cause harm?

    I’m betting Zimmer would exclaim “Nice play, great tackle!”

    What do you guys think?
    ___________

    I think you should put down the bottle, find a video of Barr’s hit, and watch it in real time. Your imagination has turned that play into what the Packer did to Jim McMahon.

  20. I love Packer fans who still say the hit was dirty. Do you just watch the screen for the pretty colors? There is a game going on out there.

  21. I remember Teddy being hit in the head while he was sliding. Teddy was knocked unconscious and lay on the field for a scary few moments. Every official threw a flag, Joyner was ejected from the game, and he got a $23K fine. That’s how you know a hit is dirty. Packer fans littered this comment board with jokes about little Teddy going to sleep. That’s class.

  22. minnesoulja says:
    October 27, 2017 at 10:17 am
    I love Packer fans who still say the hit was dirty. Do you just watch the screen for the pretty colors? There is a game going on out there.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\

    I get a kick out of all the viking fans just making the assumption all the posters are talking about Barr and Rodgers.

    My post was directed at Sendejo.

    You guys obviously obsess too much about the Packers that you forgot about the guy that was actually suspended for a cheap shot.

    Packer hate that exceeds the love for their own vikings. sigh

  23. ad296 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 9:27 am
    Packers fans are still dillusional about ‘cheap shot’. No fine, no penalty, no suspension = clean hit. Get over it.
    ********************************************

    Jim Souhan, Vikings beat writer from the Minnesota Star Tribune:

    Barr watched Rodgers throw a pass and was close enough to justify reaching out and grabbing the quarterback. Barr knew that the ball was gone, but finished the play by bringing Rodgers to the ground.

    As Rodgers neared the ground, Barr raised his legs so all of his body weight fell on Rodgers’ shoulders. He suffered a broken collarbone and probably will miss the rest of the season.

    Was the play dirty, or legal? So often in the NFL, a hit can be both. Barr wasn’t blatantly late and didn’t make a move to injure Rodgers that could be easily identified at game speed. But he is a large man with excellent body control and he made sure to land in the most damaging way possible on a great player and a union brother.

    Did the officials err in not penalizing the hit? Perhaps, but how much can you expect from part-time employees trying to judge intent in a split second?

    What we know with certainty is that Barr wanted to punish Rodgers as much as he could within the gray areas of the rules.
    *********************************************
    So, tell me, is Jim Souhan whining about what transpired that day?
    He’s basically saying what Packer fans have been saying and what’s been blatantly obvious to everyone else except Barney fans.

    Call it what you want, but I’m a firm believer in Karma.
    The Vikings have been wallowing in it.
    How else do you explain the Vikings utter ineptitude over the last 56 years.
    This season will be no different.

  24. In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 27, 2017 at 10:22 am
    I remember Teddy being hit in the head while he was sliding. Teddy was knocked unconscious and lay on the field for a scary few moments. Every official threw a flag, Joyner was ejected from the game, and he got a $23K fine. That’s how you know a hit is dirty.

    \\\\\\\\\

    So the hit was dirty because of the result?

    Sometimes it better to remain silent and be thought a fool……

  25. Wafflestomp-

    Congratulations! You found someone who agrees with your opinion. The 2 of you are right, and the millions of others are wrong.

    And still……nobody cares.

    But, hopefully, you feel better now.

  26. andrwken says:
    October 27, 2017 at 11:00 am
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 27, 2017 at 10:22 am

    I remember Teddy being hit in the head while he was sliding. Teddy was knocked unconscious and lay on the field for a scary few moments. Every official threw a flag, Joyner was ejected from the game, and he got a $23K fine. That’s how you know a hit is dirty.

    \\\\\\\\\

    So the hit was dirty because of the result?

    Sometimes it better to remain silent and be thought a fool……
    _______

    You should take your own advice. I clearly said the quarterback was hit in the head while he was sliding. That’s dirty. The confirmation of that was the penalty flags, ejection, and fine.

  27. In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 27, 2017 at 1:08 pm
    andrwken says:
    October 27, 2017 at 11:00 am
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    October 27, 2017 at 10:22 am

    I remember Teddy being hit in the head while he was sliding. Teddy was knocked unconscious and lay on the field for a scary few moments. Every official threw a flag, Joyner was ejected from the game, and he got a $23K fine. That’s how you know a hit is dirty.

    \\\\\\\\\

    So the hit was dirty because of the result?

    Sometimes it better to remain silent and be thought a fool……
    _______

    You should take your own advice. I clearly said the quarterback was hit in the head while he was sliding. That’s dirty. The confirmation of that was the penalty flags, ejection, and fine.

    \\\\\

    No you clearly said he was hit, was knocked out, and the guy that hit him was given a fine and ejected. Then you said it was dirty. You brought up the whole sequence and never made the distinction.

    So you think the fine and the ejection would be the same if he hit Teddy and Teddy jumped right up?

  28. pkrlvr says:
    October 27, 2017 at 8:37 am
    Well if anyone knows about cheap shots….it is not the fan base that is still dumbfounded that they lost their only hope of their team winning more than 2 more games this season when the team’s 1 star player was injured in a clean, legal tackle.

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