Texans players considered walking out on Friday over Bob McNair’s “inmate” remark

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And just when it seems like the rancor over the anthem controversy had settled to a slow simmer, it’s back on the front burner, lid rattling on the pan.

Tackle Duane Brown said Friday that Texans players considered walking out of practice on Friday over owner Bob McNair’s comment at last week’s ownership meeting that “[w]e can’t have the inmates running the prison.”

“I’m very upset,” Brown said, via Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle. “It sickened me. . . . It’s horrible. It’s frustrating.”

Brown added that, even though players decided not to leave, it’s not over.

It’s possible that receiver DeAndre Hopkins wasn’t sufficiently persuaded, given that he missed practice due to a personal day — and in light of the reality that coach Bill O’Brien refused to comment on whether the absence is connected to the McNair remark.

McNair has apologized for the choice of words, but not for the message. And that’s what should bother players more than McNair’s decision to use a fairly common figure of speech.

And now McNair has an uncommon problem: A possible revolt and a major distraction as the Texans prepare for an already daunting challenge in Seattle on Sunday.

225 responses to “Texans players considered walking out on Friday over Bob McNair’s “inmate” remark

  1. Get over it!! It’s just an expression.

    People are to sensitive now

    Can you imagine a TV show like All In the Family or Sanford and Son
    being on now. People would lose their mind!

  2. The first time I saw the headline on this website, I rolled my eyes because it is a common phrase.

    But I wouldn’t be too happy if my boss used the phrase to describe me either.

    Pretty dumb.

  3. Snowflakes just looking to be offended…

    And like he said, the inmates are running the asylum.

    These upset players should take their college educations and try to find a real job.

    “Do you want Fries with that?”

  4. When the salary cap ends up at 250 dollars and a ham sandwich over lost revenues not a single one of these players will accept responsibility for their own actions in it.

  5. Oh my god get over yourselves. You are employees, and the most over paid employees in the world at that. Do as your told, stand for the national anthem or go work at Wal-Mart. Maybe they’ll pay you to protest on company time

  6. Maybe the owners should just tell all players of all 32 teams not to show up. I bet within a month they’d be begging to be back playing for these “sickening” owners. Show these players who still has the power.

  7. thecape15 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:07 pm
    The first time I saw the headline on this website, I rolled my eyes because it is a common phrase.

    But I wouldn’t be too happy if my boss used the phrase to describe me either.

    Pretty dumb.

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    nailed it

    the timing and stupidity of using the phrase there
    is the issue

    good luck attracting free agents to houston, too

  8. Always thought it was having the “inmates running the asylum”, not “prison”. Either way, I seriously doubt he was intending it as a reference to race. Sounds like some of these guys need stop making themselves martyrs sleights that didn’t occur.

  9. I hope the Texans have a “safe room” at their facilities so Duane and the other snowflakes can go to feel safe, cry, color coloring books, blow bubbles, and hold each other……

  10. I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?

  11. This is getting out of hand. I mean seriously, I think that they just want something to up in arms about. They think that this gives them more leverage.

    At the end of the day, it really won’t. They are easily replaced, and that is what they don’t comprehend. To replace an owner, you need someone with the money to take on the business, which usually means someone like the owners now. There aren’t that many people out there can do that.

    To replace a player, you can go find any of the thousands of people that are on the bubble or just don’t make it that would love the chance to play and get paid.

    When it comes down to it, the players don’t have the power, and all they are doing is further alienating the owners and the fans by doing less than bright things like this.

  12. Well, its a good thing they’ve never seen A Clockwork Orange.

    Beacuse it looks like they’re working for the guy from A Clockwork Orange.

  13. I dare any one of you to go call Duane Brown a snowflake face to face, instead of being keyboard warriors at jobs you hate and probably aren’t even very good at.

    Lames.

  14. simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?

    Are you allowed to protest at your workplace? these turds are employees and the 1st amendment doesnt exist in the workplace so maybe that explains it for ya

  15. Will we see a team wide forfeit of a game on live T.V. this season? Would only need just enough players (20) to cause an automatic forfeit. Of course, the NFLPA would litigate each players grievance to resolve any fines or suspensions.

  16. It’s not the comment, it’s the mindset of the owners that the players don’t appreciate! The players are the entertainment, period. They are the key revenue source. It’s not a privilege to play in the NFL, it’s a job that they earn through skill, dedication and hard work.

    So they don’t appreciate being told that they have no say in the business.

  17. Would of, could of , didn’t. Considering walking out? Sounds like locker room talk or
    talk on the coach after using the NFL’s favorite blunt.

  18. “It’s just an expression”

    No, it isn’t just an expression and anybody that says that are doing mental gymnastics to justify it. It’s an idiom & analogy, thus there’s a reason why that “expression” isn’t used in every day scenarios because it’s specifically meant to compare/contrast something but doesn’t work here. The saying is meant to say that the least qualified people are now in charge, however in the case of the NFL, nobody comes for the owners. Players aren’t school children or low level retail ‘associates,’ they’re highly skilled athletes that aren’t all easily replaced that people come to see.

    So yeah, that “expression” was nothing more than an insult. Bob McNair just pulled a Donald Sterling, good job.

  19. His comments are the exact reason the players SHOULD be taking a knee. #TakeAKnee

  20. Didn’t Duane Brown just complete one of the costliest ($3.87 million) unsuccessful holdouts in NFL history?

    Ya, I won’t give a lot of credence to anything he says.

    Just a bunch of hot air.

  21. daburgher says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:15 pm
    @tylawspick6

    no one wanted to go to houston before those remarks.

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    has more to do with rick smith’s horrednous salary allocation, cap hell
    and lack of draft depth to keep costs down than it does the lack of
    attraction to play there for free agents…

    now you have deandre hopkins awol
    and duane brown about to quit…..not a good recipe

  22. exinsidetrader says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:20 pm
    It’s a common expression — only an imbecile or an actual inmate would take it literally. Oh, I forgot who we were speaking about. Carry on.

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    There you go! Show us your true colors like ‘ol Bob!

  23. simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?
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    So, let me get this straight. Are you sure “ALL” people on here are the same folks that are offended by people kneeling? Wouldnt that be lumping a entire group into one category? The same thing that people kneeling are so against?? Hmmm, coincidence?

  24. mcgil38-no way. I get to watch one of the best QB/GM and coach duos every single week. I enjoy every minute of it, and I do not take them for granted.

    FWIW-I never take the opposition for granted either, despite the seemingly bad reputation that our fan base has.

  25. all talk! go ahead and walk out. I don’t think the fans will care. True fans would be ok with sandlot teams that really want to play instead of pampered, overpaid, babies. Good luck trying to take care of your “posies” on a real middle-class paycheck. Please, go ahead and quit. Can’t happen soon enough for me.

  26. If the Texans players actually discussed walking out of work because the owner used a common phrase then they are too mentally weak to win this weekend. Stay in your safe spaces and forfeit the game.

    Duane Brown stayed home from work on an unexcused absence because he wanted a raise with two years left on a contract that he himself signed. Trade him. Cut him. Release him outright.

  27. WOW. This is what society has come to. Very sensitive people. Sad really. We’re getting weaker and weaker by the day. We’re getting so weak that we can’t even handle an expression of speech. WOW. Just WOW.
    It’s an expression that I’ve heard 100 times in my life, at work even and I’ve never taken it to heart thinking they are talking about me as an inmate.
    I guess from now on these owners need to say “We can’t have players running this league”. That’s where we are at as a society. Let that sink in. We will be soon known as the SNOWFLAKES of the world.

  28. brawlkc says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:16 pm
    I dare any one of you to go call Duane Brown a snowflake face to face, instead of being keyboard warriors at jobs you hate and probably aren’t even very good at.

    Lames.

    I would totally do that if given the opportunity to see him face to face. Whats he going to do? assault me? go to jail and lose millions? This guy hasnt showed up to work for weeks and still has a job and hes going to complain about a common figure of speech.

  29. How ridiculous is this going to get? Anyone getting their nose out of joint over that turn of phrase to the point they are ignoring their responsibility to focus on the game at hand has real issues with their professionalism. There’s a real failing in terms of priorities here. Can’t help but feel sorry for the Houston coaches in this.

  30. Sorry, but, they are paid entertainers and I want to pay to be entertained instead of preached to.

    While they are on the clock they should do their job… like practice on practice days and stand for the anthem. They can’t walk out because their boss said something that riled their feathers. If they want to spend their time outside of work hours protesting and doing community work… better things will happen in this world. But, while on the clock they should do their well compensated work.

  31. Walk off. Do it!! They need to shut this garbage down immediately. These spoiled players are completely out of hand. Go get a real job like the rest of we idiot fans you have no respect for.

  32. Maybe they can all take a knee during the National Anthem to protest! Where is Cap when you need him? Drip, Drip, Drip….That’s sarcasm dripping by the way.

  33. mcgil38 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:19 pm
    People… just stop watching this garbage on Sundays and you won’t have to deal with this ridiculousness anymore

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    Are YOU going to stop watching!?? LOL! I doubt it, because you’re HERE. Commenting. On a football ONLY website. You keyboard warriors are the most bogus tough guys with the most faux moral resolve…. It truly is comical.

  34. Duane Brown’s contract details – 8/16/2012: Signed a seven-year, $56.2 million contract. The deal contains $22.08 million guaranteed, including a $12.5 million signing bonus. 2017: $9.4 million, 2018: $9.75 million, 2019: Free Agent

    That Bob McNair sounds like a pretty evil guy. I guess $56.2 million doesn’t even get you the benefit of the doubt with today’s players.

  35. None of these millionaires is going to give up any money. That’s why you see them taking a knee during singing of the national anthem and call it protesting, when it isn’t.

    If they had any real conviction, they would walk out, and actually risk something in hopes of getting the NFL to do something, whatever they think that is.

  36. This is the direct result of Roger Goodell allowing the protests.

    Now they are going to protest words? LMAO

    These are people who grab each other by the throat during the game and words hurt them?

  37. It’s a common phrase, yes. But, in this instance, the racial undertones that come with the phrase stick out like a sore thumb. You usually think, hey these old guys grew up in era where racism and prejudices were widely accepted, so you think you have the wherewithal to deal with it and get past hearing ignorant comments like that. Then, when it adversely affects you, the light really comes on.

  38. I AM A TEXANS FAN and I hope Duane gets beaten like a rented mule this Sunday. He sits on his big a$$ half the season and then spouts off about his employer’s comments.

    Hey Duane, your opinion would hold weight (much like you) had you not walked out on your teammates.

  39. madsenc25 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    So, let me get this straight. Are you sure “ALL” people on here are the same folks that are offended by people kneeling? Wouldnt that be lumping a entire group into one category? The same thing that people kneeling are so against?? Hmmm, coincidence?

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    Well, if you read the post properly you would see the statement is about ALL the people who are saying “get over it”, which would indeed put them in one category. Are you following me? That category would be the people who are saying….. drumroll please…. “get over it.”

  40. Bring the house of cards down called deflection and let’s deal with the real! Because we all know the power in a word. For example…. “Crack” vs “Opioid” One word gets 4billion in Prisons and Enforcement and one word gets treatment and hearings on the hill.

  41. The beautiful thing about these protests and owners trying to put players in there place is the players will retire with there millions and owners will be stuck with a business losing value. So current players should continue doing what there doing because by the time the tv money start to decline most of them will have made there money and will be gone.

  42. bobthebillsfan says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm
    Didn’t Duane Brown just complete one of the costliest ($3.87 million) unsuccessful holdouts in NFL history?

    Ya, I won’t give a lot of credence to anything he says.

    Just a bunch of hot air.
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    This makes zero sense.

  43. “Good lord why does everyone have to be so offended nowadays. Its nauseating.

    Signed,
    Millennial
    —-
    And why do people have to be so offended nowadays over some guys kneeling (like when vets kneel over a grave) that they “boycott” the NFL instead of going to the bathroom, get a beer, or just get over it instead? Talk about SNOWFLAKES who can’t handle viewing something they disagree with!
    Signed,
    A veteran

  44. You can’t have the inmates running the asylum….sorry, it’s true.

    Insane, super rich millennial athletes with physical powers beyond normal humans….what could go wrong?

  45. Wow, what a bunch of crybabies. If they spent more time in school maybe they would understand that this is a common saying and has no racial undertones. I’m sure they can find better paying jobs elsewhere since they are so offended.

  46. unless you work in a no skill position/revolving door position, you should be offended by such a remark.. not as a matter of racism, just as an owner who holds no value of his employees.

  47. ENTIRE team should take a knee. Continue the protest and destroy this business. Most players playing now will have made there money and moved on when tv money start to decline. Owners will be stuck with a business that will be losing money.

  48. snakeman40 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I hope the Texans have a “safe room” at their facilities so Duane and the other snowflakes can go to feel safe, cry, color coloring books, blow bubbles, and hold each other……

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    That the same room where people hide from football because a few people peacefully took a knee?

  49. For the love of god will someone have the backbone to finally stand up and…NOT APOLOGIZE because a baby declared they are offended! It’s a simple expression that can be used at businesses, schools, etc. What a joke!

  50. Bob, here you go… “We can’t have the children running the daycare.” Fixed it for ya!

  51. daburgher says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?
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    Are you allowed to protest at your workplace? these turds are employees and the 1st amendment doesnt exist in the workplace so maybe that explains it for ya
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    Well, yes, I can do whatever I like at work because I have my own business. But if I did have an employer or work in an office or whatever equates to what you do, would my employer force me to stand to the national anthem everyday at work because the government paid them to? I’m not so sure that would happen, does that happen at YOUR workplace?

  52. “I’ve been here when it was glory hole days and I’ve been here when it wasn’t,” Jones said. “Having said that, I want me some glory hole.”

    If the Cowboys can overcome these statement by Jerry Jones, I’m sure the Texans can work it out….

  53. I don’t think the players realize that the owners aren’t going to give any real concessions to them over this. If they sit and don’t play then that’s the way it will be. These guys are worth billions and will deal with it. The players who are worth millions and spend millions like idiots will be the first ones to cave. Do your job and don’t be a distraction in the workplace.

  54. Real tired of this crap.
    These guys should take their righteous indignation and quit and go get real jobs.
    You know, where everyone will treat them with nothing but love, and supportive caring for their feelings…

  55. madsenc25 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?
    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    So, let me get this straight. Are you sure “ALL” people on here are the same folks that are offended by people kneeling? Wouldnt that be lumping a entire group into one category? The same thing that people kneeling are so against?? Hmmm, coincidence?
    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    What America do you live in? I’d say anyone against the kneeling is definitely against making an issue out of McNair’s comments. If there’s anyone out there against anthem protests AND finds McNair’s comments insulting, please step forward…

    *crickets*

  56. Don’t worry. The strike in 2021 will clear the slate for the owners and fans. The 1000 players cut in camp plus CFL and line crossers will be enough for a league. Then fans can ask for ticket cuts, food cost reductions, and was parking. True clock gets reset for all

  57. Thousands and thousands of people’s lives destroyed in the Houston area because of the hurricane, many thousands will never recover, and these guys are walking out of work because of this? Talk about some privilege. How soon we forget. #HoustonStrong!

  58. I can’t understand why most of you do not respect football players as people. Most of you played football at some point in your life, and you didn’t stop because you “outgrew” the game. You stopped because either (1) it was too hard to continue, or (2) you weren’t good enough to make it to the next level. Yes, these guys are genetically gifted, but they also killed themselves throughout high school and college getting stronger, learning the playbook, etc. They have some incredibly marketable skills, and as apparent capitalists, you should respect that.

    The skills you developed are worth $60k/year. The skills these guys developed are worth millions. That doesn’t mean they have less of a right to get mad at their boss, or are somehow less deserving of their money.

  59. So what’s stopping you Duane? You don’t want to be accepting a paycheck from a guy you have such little respect for do you? I think you might want to consider donating all of the money that you accepted from him to various community outreach programs, lest you be considered a hypocrite.

  60. Not the first time he’s said something controversial and this is BY FAR not the worst he’s ever said. A year or so ago he gave an interview saying that even after hearing all the latest research he still couldn’t believe it was possible to get a concussion playing football. He’s either not all there mentally or simply doesn’t care what happens to the players just as long as he keeps getting rich off of them.

  61. How can this possibly be about race when the players are from many different cultures and races? I thought football was played by tough men?

  62. Amazing that the owners think it’s them that built the game. Can get new owners anywhere, it’s the players that are unique.

  63. I don’t watch much football anymore. I used to watch every game I could. Had the Sunday ticket. Now I watch the Packers and that is all. Won’t even watch them if they lose a few more games. Still have “The Walking Dead” on Sundays. That is what I look forward to now days. Football is on its way out.

  64. Walk off. Do it!! They need to shut this garbage down immediately. These spoiled players are completely out of hand. Go somewhere, but just go away already.

  65. “How dare that man who pays us millions of dollars to play football compare us to those unpaid lowly prisoners. Let’s show him up by escaping!”

  66. Yes, it’s stupid to get upset over a common saying. But clearly players have turned into pansies, and McNair knew that. So, pretty stupid to phrase it like that when every black person who works in and around the NFL is in a total hyper-tizzie. Assuming, of course, that he did NOT desire this outcome. Maybe he wanted to see what his players would do in a situation like that… Some of these rich business dudes are shrewd about the whole organizational behavior thing.

    Language aside, McNair is only making the same point many have made here on this forum: The players are EMPLOYEES! They’re protesting on COMPANY TIME! That’s not how the employer/employee relationship works!

    Whatever McNair was thinking, and whatever his players are thinking right now, you can wad up this season and pitch it in the trash can. These guys are NOT going to put in any effort from here on out. I’d expect to see some embarrassing losses.

    After all, the Raiders o-line let the team’s franchise get hit over and over again until he broke, and that was just because he didn’t kneel with them during the anthem.

  67. If you want to continue to get paid, you suck it up and deal with it without whining. Well…most of us anyway.

  68. Unions are killers. They’ve killed plenty of businesses and now they’re trying to kill the NFL.

    Players think they work for the NFLPA instead of the NFL. And now they also think they can get away with anything by crying racism, knowing the NFLPA will back them 100%.

  69. Saying “Let them walk. Where are they going to make the kind of money they are making.” has got to be the most ignorant comment I’ve read. Owners stand to lose even more than the the players for any work stoppage. The product on the field is the players, without them there is no business. The players are not simply replaceable. That said, both sides should be more invested with working together and quit with the inflammatory rhetoric.

  70. So much for players and their so called warrior mentality or playing a so called gladiatorial sport. I think the players from the 60s and 70s must be doing a face palm watching these prima donnas.

  71. Flash1287 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    Get over it!! It’s just an expression.
    People are to sensitive now
    Can you imagine a TV show like All In the Family or Sanford and Son
    being on now. People would lose their mind!

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    All in the family went off the air almost 40 years ago. Things change in 40 years. Lots of sayings used to be “common” that aren’t appropriate anymore.

    I don’t think McNair meant it in a racist way, but he certainly meant it in a billionaire owner controlling the players kind of way.

  72. I didn’t wet my pants when a few guys knelt in peaceful protest, like so many pretend to. And Im not wetting my pants over his poor choice of words. So much hypocrisy all around.

  73. The ONLY solution for the NFL is the following:
    1. Fire Goodell;
    2. New Commissioner Tebow orders all players to stand (just like NFL) and suspends those that don’t;
    4. NFL gives X million to improve police training.

  74. lightninhopkins says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:04 pm
    I might not want to work for a boss that sees me as a criminal either.
    =================================================
    It’s an old expression, really the inmates are running the asylum.
    What he means is the employees are telling the employer what the rules are.

  75. Some people posting on here will never get this: they are paid market value. Not overpaid- when they are deemed as such they are released. They are the best in the world at what they do and that is why you watch. The cap is made up of a percentage of revenue- therefore the OWNERS are overpaid as well, if we apply that logic.

  76. According to sports illustrated 25 out of 31 teams are showing big decreases in local viewership. Total viewership is down over 5 percent from 2016 and an additional 18 percent from the 2015 season. That is all.

  77. crush22 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm
    Vince Lombardi just crapped himself.

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    By all accounts Lombardi was far ahead of his time in terms of respect for his players.

    I don’t think he would have said this to the players, common saying or not.

  78. Oh my Lord, will someone please tell these snowflakes to act like men instead of frightened mice? Seriously?

    Well, if the Seahawks on Sunday start calling the Texans “inmates”, they’re likely to upset them so much that they’ll just melt on the field and ‘hawks will have a runaway win. If they can be upset this easily, I’d use it against them on the field to gain an advantage.

  79. Us fans are considering walking out from this “use to be” fun sport to watch which has now become a whiney soap opera.
    I mean, these guys have way too many butt hurt feelings for NFL players. Such a different world in 2017. These guys are like melenials with money. Waaaaa 😭

  80. ijahru says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:23 pm
    My guess is a very small number of players were upset with the remark

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    I think every player was upset by that remark. I would be. The owner of the company basically saying to his employees… “now we can’t have you workers running the company”. It’s basically saying that they are not in the same class. That’s un-American. Forget the racial connotation.

  81. His comments are the exact reason the players SHOULD be taking a knee. #TakeAKnee

    I think the kneelers should all just quit football altogether in protest……they won’t – they don’t have the cajones.

  82. Brown has been a constant distraction and weasel in the locker room. He is disgruntled over his contract and will begin to exact some revenge utilizing this fake outrage. I am sure this guy is well aware of the true meaning of the phrase and is now revealing yet another example of his Kaepernik-like activism.

  83. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows it’s an expression without discriminatory intent. But it falls right into the hands of people who love to put things in quotes and see discriminatory intent at every turn.

  84. In all seriousness, it would be cool if they did refuse to show up for the game. Let the owners find replacement players and see how that fares. The talent discrepancy would cripple the league and force out problematic owners like McNair. There’s no excuse for this rhetoric, I do understand it’s an expression, but in light of the topic, the racial undertones hit like a ton of bricks. Salute to DeAndre Hopkins for being a man of principle and refusing to show up Friday.

  85. These guys have ZERO idea what the real world is like. Every boss I have ever had treats me the same way…as a subordinate, someone is in charge of isolated things but not the entire business. The players are not in charge. The owners are. There is nothing wrong with that.

  86. Duane Brown is a locker room cancer. No surprise at all that this happens the week he finally decides to show up for work…

  87. youngnoizecom says:
    October 27, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    In all seriousness, it would be cool if they did refuse to show up for the game.
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    You think these bozos are going to give up game checks for something so trivial?

    The only thing the owners would lose is some concession and parking money.

  88. The only people who should be offended are actual prisoners who probably make $0.08/hour while these millionaires continue to ruin the best sport in the world over feelings.

  89. Hilarious. All you weekend keyboard warriors and the NFL is suffering propaganda. You do realize ALL sports are seeing a ratings decline right? You also realize that the lowest ratings for a week, not individual games but the entire week, has been 7.5 percent right (and that was the week BEFORE the kneeling issue)? And you also realize that the Amazon, Yahoo and other streaming options for some games aren’t counted in ratings, with at least one of them reporting over one million unique sign-ons (if you don’t know what that means, take the time to learn about the computer you’re using to post here and how networks work). Lastly, you also realize that ratings have been on a steady increase week after week right?

    By all means, stop watching. As a vet I stand by their right to protest. I don’t have to like the method, but I support it nonetheless. You won’t be missed. Oh, and before you armchair lawyers start speaking up about not having rights under their employer, yes, they do. Their employer stated it’s ok, they advocate that they speak for the community and many of them support their communities far more than you ever will.

  90. simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:43 pm
    daburgher says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    simonsays05 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    I love how all the people here that are saying “get over it” or “it’s just a phrase” are the ones that are so offended by people kneeling. Hmmm… coincidence?
    ———————–

    Are you allowed to protest at your workplace? these turds are employees and the 1st amendment doesnt exist in the workplace so maybe that explains it for ya
    —————————-

    Well, yes, I can do whatever I like at work because I have my own business. But if I did have an employer or work in an office or whatever equates to what you do, would my employer force me to stand to the national anthem everyday at work because the government paid them to? I’m not so sure that would happen, does that happen at YOUR workplace?

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    If I protested on company time that made our customers and other employees uncomfortable I would most likely be terminated as would most people who have a boss. Congrats on your lemonade stand.

  91. So the same guys offended by players kneeling are here telling the players they shouldn’t be offended by McNair’s words?

    The level of hypocrisy evidenced around here is staggering.

  92. I support the owners on contract issues. I support the players on this issue. There is no league without the owners. There is no league without the players. I love NFL football. Maybe some of the younger owners who are going to be around for a while should be doing most of the talking. The older guys grew up in a world where black people were supposed to know their place. Black’s rode in the back of the bus. They drank from separate drinking fountains. They lived on the other side of the tracks. Our president might be reaching out to the segregationists, but NFL owners might be facing an empty locker room if they try that. It sounds like some are trying that. Could get interesting.

  93. The NFL is going to gain so much popularity overseas by sending the mighty browns over. What is Hue thinking about showing up this late in the week? is he unaware of the time change? Why would he let his players go out at all?

  94. Ever consider this? Those of you calling people snowflakes, mocking others standing up, claiming PC culture is ruining everything and how pathetic and weak it all is: Think about it. Generally, these folks are standing up against racism, misogyny, intolerance, police brutality and inequality. YOU however are the ones wailing all day about their doing so. So the real question is, which is more pathetic: Speaking up/complaining about injustice or complaining about those doing so. One might actually accomplish something–the other–only proves you had a poor upbringing.

  95. Flash1287 says:

    Get over it!! It’s just an expression.

    People are to sensitive now

    Can you imagine a TV show like All In the Family or Sanford and Son
    being on now. People would lose their mind!
    _____________________________________
    And your thinking a=could be applied to the player anthem protest/kneeling.
    Get over it!! It’s just an expression….of their first amendment rights!

  96. Why should anyone apologize (or be mad/frustrated) at an accurate analogy of the players actions?

    The players are idiots for how they’ve acted. They’ve only made things worse. Policy is not racism when the policy is negatively effecting EVERYONE, white people MOST of all. Using the anthem to protest this factually incorrect crap is needlessly divisive. The players are only shooting themselves in the foot and are aiming their metaphorical gun at the owners.

    It will not end well for anyone. The players are fools for not seeing this. But if I can give them a little respite, it’s that they’ve been taught wrongly their whole lives how to approach a situation. By making EVERYTHING racially based. Pretending white people get a free pass from experiencing racism, sexism, etc. (Also forgetting that racism and slavery were and STILL IS a massive issue around the world. In fact there are more human trafficking slaves today in 2017 then were ever brought to the colonies in all the years combined)

    Except, the issues they speak of, aren’t racially based. Bennett wasn’t racially profiled. More whites get killed then African Americans by police. People of higher means escape their crimes, the poor of every race are screwed. The rules of today skew in favor of everybody but the white man in terms of college admissions, job opportunities, segregated colleges of-by-for African Americans, segregated spaces of-by-for various groups, etc.

    But these idiots just don’t get it. They are ignorant. Poking your eye in America because your emotions are betraying your brain doesn’t make anything better. It just creates a circus that brings everyone down. Divide and conquer. What fools.

  97. brawlkc says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:16 pm
    I dare any one of you to go call Duane Brown a snowflake face to face, instead of being keyboard warriors at jobs you hate and probably aren’t even very good at.

    Lames.

    *****************************************************************************
    I would love too and as soon as he said something offensive to me or hit me … bam thank you for the money.

  98. He’s right, the players have no business sticking their noses in the running of the owners actual BUSINESS. I mean, last I checked, prior to all this kneeling of course, the NFL was top dog. Sure, not perfect, but as far as printing money, the NFL was as close as you get. What do these players know? Not a damn thing. Ralph Wilson owned the Bills for 40+ years, yet a guy like Adrian Peterson defaults on a personal loan while still employed! The people siding with the players in all of this need to open their eyes. These are man-children. They don’t even know what they are protesting anymore. I mean, absolutely sign me up where I only have to work 21 weeks out of the year, get paid millions, but with the unfortunate downside of working for some potential morons. Seriously, these guys have heard, and said, worse on field they play on.

  99. Bunch of pansies .. this PC crap is so out of hand. “Sticks and Stones” guys. Toughen up. You’re in the damn NFL!

  100. Did the players pitch in when he bought the team?

    Do they pitch in on the monthly bills?

    Do they take the risk investing in the team?

    No.

    So, yeah, the owner calls the shots. It’s the advantage of being the OWNER. Every other company functions that way also.

    Funny I don’t see people blaming bill gates, mark cuckerberg, jeff Bezos, warren buffet, Oprah or countless other business owners for owning businesses.

    I don’t see Russell Simmons, P.diddy or puffy or whatever he is, or any other record label owners get blamed for basing their business off others talents.

    So why villainze NFL owners?

    Private business isn’t a democracy. That’s not how it works.

  101. I thought the owners were paying Roger Goodell to handle this stuff? Incompetence. He could have resolved this a year ago but does not have the stones.

  102. All of the posters who are using the Employer/Employee relationship to make your point are forgetting the real issue.
    The customers.
    And in business if you have no customers you have no business.

    The NFL is losing its customers at a rapid rate. That’s why McNair, Jones and other owners are concerned and making these types of comments.

  103. McNair is an old, white, rich republican. He doesn’t get it. He doesn’t want to get it, and he doesn’t care about the nuances and implications of freedom of speech/expression. He is part of the right-wing establishment and he doesn’t give a rip about poor people or Black people. If he did, he would have known that his remark about inmates was unacceptable. It’s sickening that this nation is being run by guys just like McNair. He’s not a government official, but the people in power act just like him. I weep for the republic.

  104. Well, he could have said “slaves running the plantation”. He didn’t. By saying “inmates” the players pulled out the race card. WHY? All inmates are not black. Get over yourselves.

  105. So, “To many Chiefs and not enough Indians means”………………..(a)Chiefs are racists?, (b)More football players then baseball players? (c)To many leaders not enough workers?……………………..Yup, a

  106. Local police and sheriff departments around the country are always hiring. If these players are so concerned about un-fair treatment by law enforcement, they should either encourage others, or they themselves get a badge, start patrolling the streets, and actually do something to change the culture. There was a time in Boston when Irish people were considered to all be criminal element. They were falsely accused, beaten, and killed by police on a regular basis. But, rather than protest from the sidelines or wait for that perception to magically change on its own, many became cops and subsequently shaped their culture accordingly. It’s not like African-Americans wouldn’t get hired for that position over every other ethnicity if they applied. So, how ’bout encouraging people to become the thing that views and treats your community differently on your own time, and represent your company’s brand in the best possible light when you’re on the clock. Could you just imagine a group of employees kneeling in front of Wal-Mart, Dominoes, Macy’s, or any other business in these 50 states in order to inform patrons of their discontent over unfair treatment by police? They’d be fired as soon as those companies could replace them, and I believe that is what NFL teams should do as well.

  107. All I see in the comments are mad white people that black men make more money than them. Sorry but it’s true.

  108. According to sports illustrated 25 out of 31 teams are showing big decreases in local viewership. Total viewership is down over 5 percent from 2016 and an additional 18 percent from the 2015 season. Facts don’t care about your feelings. That is all.

  109. I can’t believe that assertion. If it is true and they really considered it beyond chest thumping among friends then, collectively, theses guys are much dumber than I gave them credit for.

  110. Hey, trump trash cultist, why do you blindly support the 2nd amendment but not the 13th and 14th. After multiple mass shootings you gun nuts staunchly defend all kinds of assault weapons but not these people equal right under the 1st amendment. The have equal rights just like the white people who voice their bigotry.

  111. Nothing but white privileged snowflakes on these boards. I thought all of you trumpflakes were boycotting. What happened? Why you still spewing hate on here? NFL will just fine.

  112. Simple yes or no question here. Are the players paid to play football or to protest? I mean, it’s that simple. They weren’t given contracts based on their political views. I’d say the owners start terminating contracts for conduct detrimental to their business. Protest on your own time. The problem here is that we, the fans, are held hostage. We can no longer watch football, football analysis, or read about football without this crap coming up. I, personally, don’t care. Sure, there are injustices in this world, but you know what, there are injustices in MY life, but you don’t see anybody, including myself, taking a knee. What’s worse, if I wanted somebody’s opinion on social injustices in the great US of A, I sure as heck wouldn’t start with a player in the NFL.

  113. dcpatfan and bullcharger posting crying comments about race are as reliable as joetoronto and tylawspick6 posting something obnoxiously stupid.

  114. I get the expression is bad. We use it wjen talking about parents of our rec league. Remember we view players as millionaires.

  115. Cmoney49 49 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:34 pm
    Nothing but white privileged snowflakes on these boards. I thought all of you trumpflakes were boycotting. What happened? Why you still spewing hate on here? NFL will just fine.
    ———–
    Another example of the type of person that would scream bloody murder if you made a generalization about anyone other than a white person, yet there this bone head is, generalizing with the best of them. Your irony isn’t lost Capt. Hypocrisy.

  116. CMoney, you are blind man. As far as the 2nd amendment goes, take Texas for example. You still can’t carry a weapon while on the clock working at Best Buy. Like, it’s comments like these that show how blind the country truly is to the issue. Protest on your own time, and you shall not face repurchasing from your government. Protest on company time, well, it’s your funeral(for your bank account that is)

  117. brawlkc says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:05 pm
    All I see in the comments are mad white people that black men make more money than them. Sorry but it’s true.
    —————–
    That’s because you’re stupid, ignorant, and blind to anything but ***perceived*** racial injustices.

  118. brawlkc says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:05 pm
    All I see in the comments are mad white people that black men make more money than them. Sorry but it’s true.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Maybe your racism or fabricated guilt are influencing how you perceive things causing you to complain about stuff that isn’t there.

  119. Maybe the problem isn’t that he called players inmates. Maybe the problem is with the people who hear the word inmate and associate it with color.

  120. If anyone would know it would be Duane Brown he walked out on the Texans before the season even started

    if he walks out again he still won’t be missed

  121. I believe the reason neither Magic Johnson nor Michael Jordan have spoken on the issue of kneeling for the anthem from a professional sports team owner’s perspective is because they would say their players need to do whatever protesting they want to do on their own time. Players are under contract to give media interviews, personal appearances, be on the bus or plane at the designated time, wear a suit when traveling, and basically represent their team’s brand and league in a positive way in everything they do both on and off the field/court . Whether Gram’Mama’-Larry Johnson thinks $100 Million guaranteed for doing so is modern day slavery or not; intelligent, entrepreneurial types like Magic and Mike would tell you in no uncertain terms that if kneeling during the anthem could potentially cost them a one-percent viewer or season ticket holder fallout, that those players need to stand their ass up, put their hand on their heart, and do so with a smile every time they are told to do so.

  122. rparrott4 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:21 pm
    Kaepernick will save you a spot in the unemployment line.
    —————
    Kap just made a million dollars last week with his book deal. What about you??

  123. jocko1181 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 4:29 pm
    These guys have ZERO idea what the real world is like

    Are you serious? I’m willing to bet that you have ZERO idea what environment many of these athletes had to endure growing up. That world is very real to them and unimaginable to an internet tough guy

  124. McNair said something stupid and apologized Florio. You tell me any other place of employment that allows this type of behavior? Any smart human being goes into their place of work and is smart enough to follow the rules set forth by the employer. The unwritten rules are you never talk religion, politics, race or church. It’s just that simple. If these players worked for me—they wouldn’t be. You are paid to do a job and none of the other stuff matters. It has nothing to do with social injustice. When they’re not at the work place, feel free to go and protest all you want.
    It’s comical for all of these people to be making comments about what “ownership” should be doing when you’ve never been in the position. You don’t have a job if you don’t have an employer. What happens to you Florio if you stop coming into work over protesting something that doesn’t have anything to do with your job? Answer: You’re first written up and then terminated. All parties need to realize that you’re cooking the golden goose that pays you.

  125. The Seahawks should come out in solidarity with the Texans in all white wedding dresses and we can have our first our same team marriage during this weekends national anthem

  126. Rabidbillsfan what you’re saying is the same as they should shut up and go back to picking cotton. Stop watching if you all are so upset move on. Not sure why you would want to watch people of color based on these comments.

  127. daburgher says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:27 pm
    brawlkc says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:16 pm
    I dare any one of you to go call Duane Brown a snowflake face to face, instead of being keyboard warriors at jobs you hate and probably aren’t even very good at.

    Lames.

    I would totally do that if given the opportunity to see him face to face. Whats he going to do? assault me? go to jail and lose millions? This guy hasnt showed up to work for weeks and still has a job and hes going to complain about a common figure of speech.
    ——————————
    So instead of actually trying to defend yourself you’d bank on him not wanting to lose millions by punching you in the face? Talk about a snowflake! Ask the fans that talked trash to Charles Barkley how it worked out for them. You may want to keep your cowardly mouth shut.

  128. I came to this site for a predictable smile.
    PFT: Where posters routinely get hysterical at black millionaires,
    but are always chill with white billionaires. 🙂

  129. The numbers don’t lie. One in every 45 National Football League players (2.2 percent) is arrested. The national arrest rate is 1 in 23 (4.2 percent), according to tO FBI reports.

    NFL teams are allowed 53 players on their rosters (plus five man practice squad). With 32 teams, that calculates to a total of 1,696 players. The League saw only 34 players arrested a year ago.

    That’s a good number of arrests for a minority of people. I’m sure it’s the fault of the police and not the individual. Ridiculous. Put this in perspective, that’s 2 of every 100 players. My work place has about 300 and ZERO arrest that I know of, but I am in a position to know. In the last 10 years we’ve had 3 THREE ARREST! Prisoners are taking over the asylum and the public is growing tired of feeding them.

  130. It appears many commenters don’t understand that the subtext of this comment is purely racist coming from a rich white man to a black man in the South. This isn’t new–this is how subtle racism has played out here for generations.

  131. Inmates running the asylum might have been less offensive. Either way,not a good comment to make about people who earn you millions of dollars. Whats the odds they kneel in Seattle?

  132. Just because some “customers” are angry doesn’t make them right, nor does it mean the league will suffer long term. It means they will just end up on the wrong side of history. Remember the fan outrage and death threats lobbed at Jackie Robinson? Baseball prospered anyway and was better for it.

  133. Yeah they were gonna walkout then thought about having to work at the nearby Grocery store. Gave it second thoughts…These guys really are trying to kill the Goose that lays the gold eggs.

  134. @simonsays05
    I have pretty much stopped watching… I’ll watch a few minutes here and there, but I can honestly say that the NFL has lost my interest and attention. I still like to bitch and complain like the rest of this site… as far as im concerned, screw the players, owners and league…

  135. Did Brown say why it was sickening. Wish today’s reporters would delve into this as opposed to getting a few headlines. Probably not to many people have not heard that saying directed at them. I wish they would have walked out of practice. Love to see how the politically correct moron running the league would have handled that. Meanwhile, ratings continue to drop. NFL players need to get a grip and see the forest for the trees.

  136. Waaaa I’m a big tough pro football player with a college degree and I get offended by old time statements waaaaa.

    I’ll show them I won’t practice for the week but ill play Sunday so I can get paid.

  137. This would be a wildcat strike! I think that Godell has to nip this in the bud immediately or he will have a league wide strike. The union needs to become involved and reason with players.

  138. I agree that the players are overreacting to the expression, but why are there people seriously telling these guys to “learn some real skills” and “get a real job”? Are you serious? You don’t think being a pro football player takes exceptional skill? You think these guys get paid millions of dollars because they *don’t* possess extraordinary talents and skills that are in high demand? What is wrong with you?

    And even though the players don’t articulate it, I think that’s the problem. There is a perception that a white lawyer making a million dollars a year has earned every cent, but a black kid from the hood who becomes a millionaire wide receiver is “lucky” he can make a living playing football. It’s not luck. It’s extraordinary talent and dedication. You may not think playing football is “useful” in the convention sense, but frankly, as someone who works in corporate America, I can tell you there are a lot of guys in suits making a lot of money who do work that is as far from useful as it gets.

    No quarrel with anyone who is put off by the players’ reaction. But if you think they are somehow lucky and need to be grateful they can earn their living by being the best in the world at what they do, you’re nuts.

  139. Snowdood163 no generalization needed. Just read people’s comments. They are nothing but white privileged nonsense. Please trump trash stop watching and go away. Nobody respects the anthem at games I have been to. Most of the necks are drinking their Budweiser and smoking cigs in the concourse and never stop what they’re doing.

  140. Kmartinsin nobody pays to see the owner. If they fire all of the good players it will be more like cfl or area football and not the nfl. Sorry but they are more important than owners.

  141. Ronniethelimodriver so true, even civil rights peaceful marches in the 1960s only had 18% of white supporters. Trump trash will be on wrong side of history for much of his agenda.

  142. lance19 says:
    October 27, 2017 at 7:12 pm
    I came to this site for a predictable smile.
    PFT: Where posters routinely get hysterical at black millionaires,
    but are always chill with white billionaires. 🙂
    ——–
    Spot on. Selective outrage.

  143. tbh i think they shoudl let the inmates run the asylum. let the players make personell moves and have the owners put on pads and go out on the field. itll be like powder puff.

  144. Just another reason not to watch or follow this sport any longer. Just came on site to post this. Have a good Sunday – or at least a better one not feeling like your stuck in some left wing, social justice lunacy demonstration.

  145. The Vegas line is Seahawks -6.
    The Texans did not walk out of practice. BUT that doesn’t mean they won’t “walk out” on game day, like the Raiders did a few weeks ago against Washington on SNF!!!
    Call your bookies. GUARANTEED loss for the Texans on Sunday.
    They are going to lay down. Guaranteed

  146. Just shows what spoiled kids the players are. They feel they can act and say as they please then their little feelings are hurt when someone says something they don’t like.

  147. forfeit every game left on the schedule!!!! Put every Texans Player on the inactive list so they cant be paid!
    Let these POS move on to another team or another job!!!

  148. Last evening, while standing in front of my fruit basket I used the expression it only takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch…and this morning all my fruits and vegetables were obviously pissed off at me….

    I said I was sorry, but they ain’t buying it….they’re still bitter…

  149. NFLexpert says:
    October 27, 2017 at 6:28 pm
    Sometimes a coach loses his team, but Goodell has lost his league.
    —————————————
    Are you trying to say that The Great Roger Goodell Himself Live And In Person, Celebrity Commissioner (TM), Kowtower To the Pretty People, isn’t the very model of a modern billion-dollar business executive?

    Seriously–Roger is trying to save his job. That’s why he’s giving Jerry Jones (a jerk when it comes to football but an amazingly savvy businessman) the draft. He knows Jones’ word carries serious weight among his fellow owners. For the first time, I think Goodell is in serious trouble with those who decide his fate.

  150. absolutevisuals says:
    October 27, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Players aren’t school children or low level retail ‘associates,’ they’re highly skilled athletes that aren’t all easily replaced that people come to see.
    _______

    um, pretty sure they ARE easily replaced…see Krapernick as an example!

  151. Keep kneeling. Even if TV doesn’t show it, we will know what is going on. The NFL is filled with entitled disrespectful punks right now. If you wanna make me tune out, your doing a great job. The game means nothing to my hatred of disrespect for the flag.

  152. How does pointing out that something is an expression mean that you can’t be ticked about it? I’m sure the Texans knew that McNair didn’t think that they were literally inmates.

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