Duane Brown: Meeting with McNair “didn’t go too well”

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When last we heard from Texans tackle Duane Brown, it happened before owner Bob McNair met with the team for the first time after his “[w]e can’t have the inmates running the prison” comments came to light. Brown wasn’t happy then, and he doesn’t seem to be happy now.

Via Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, Brown told reporters after Sunday’s game in Seattle that the meeting with McNair “didn’t go too well.” That’s to be expected, if McNair told players that he wasn’t referring to them but to the league office when he used the term “inmates.”

If the comment was never meant for the players, why did McNair even apologize? He should have simply said, “I wasn’t talking about the players, period.”

Brown also reiterated that he wasn’t surprised by the remarks. During a Saturday conversation with PFT, Brown provided his reasoning.

Again, the Texans may dismiss Brown’s words by claiming that he has an axe to grind. But he was silent throughout his lengthy holdout (which ended on Monday), and he didn’t react to McNair’s unforced error as strongly as other teammates did, actually walking out of the facility and boycotting practice on Friday.

88 responses to “Duane Brown: Meeting with McNair “didn’t go too well”

  1. Brown thought was McNair said was racist and it wasn’t. It’s much more difficult to explain, apologize, etc. when the other person has a strong, wrong opinion about what you said.

  2. Disgruntled employee- nothing will make him happy except more money! It’s time the entertainers stop acting like they care for anyone but themselves.

  3. I wonder, if McNair got the saying right and said “asylum” instead of “prison,” would this have been such a big deal.

  4. Brown saying the meeting with McNair didn’t go well is a sign the meeting was nothing more than an episode of SJW vs Logic. The players not standing during the Anthem today ultimately proved McNair’s point that the inmates ARE running the asylum.

  5. Does anyone know any statistics on emotional movements born on false narratives and their success rate? The idiocy at the forefront of this whole situation has gone from light speed to ludicrous speed. It’s out of control. And if the thumbs up to thumbs down ratio on every post related to this has any semblance to a scientific poll, I would have to say a majority of the ticket buying fans are fed up with it.

  6. mudachains says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:17 pm
    So the original comment could have been “The monkeys at the league office are running the zoo” and no feelings would have been hurt!

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    Referring to anyone as “monkeys” would have probably resulted in a riot. Just sayin’…..

  7. If you associate inmate with a man skin color you are the racist. Inmate refers to no color or kind. Once you assume he means black men you become the racist.

  8. “…why did McNair even apologize?”

    Why does ANYBODY apologize?
    The rabid rights and lefts of the world are insatiable.

  9. Proud of the Texans. Racial inequality and injustice must be eliminated. McNair sounded like a plantation owner. It’s sad to see the ignorance of so many people in this comment section, but I don’t blame you for your ignorance. The only injustice most of you have ever seen is not getting your 4th Coca Cola filled up in time at the neighborhood Applebees.

  10. This only happens in the “ultra sensitive,” “no one is allowed to be offended for any reason” world that we live in today… It’s a VERY COMMON PHRASE. Lighten up Francis. It’s a saying. You’re making millions of $$$ playing football! Be thankful. Be humble.

    And people are questioning why ratings are going down in the NFL.

  11. SQWs (status quo warriors) hate science, evolution, progress, peaceful protests, and the truth.

  12. Why have some in society become so overly sensitive, even to things you know damn well are not racist, etc? Its a common saying and many fans feel what he said. Why are the kids running the preschool now? You are employees. Do your jobs. And customers, many of us do not want to see the NFL or you players pushing social justice issues in the stadium. Do that on your own time. And to pressure teams into doing it is just as bad.

  13. Mr. Brown, you are an employee. And as such, when you are at work, you will do what your employer tells you to do and behave in a manner that does not besmirch the organization. On the field, during the game, you will stand for the National Anthem.

    Kneel on your own time. Like in the middle of a super store parking lot, where you won’t be recognized and no one will care.

  14. McNair is a dope. He said what he meant and he meant what he said. The so called apology was nothing more than damage control. It is what it is…John Fox

  15. heymister24 says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:23 pm
    I guess a good halloween costume would be a prison outfit with a football helmet.

    When has that ever not been a good costume?

  16. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:27 pm
    SQWs (status quo warriors) hate science, evolution, progress, peaceful protests, and the truth.
    _________________________________________

    Recalling your deflategate comments you are 4/5’s of the way there chip.

  17. They have already determined he is racist, so why would anyone think the meeting would go well. There isn’t any changing of their minds now. So whybhave a meeting???

  18. ruffbufffire says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:25 pm
    I kneel with Kap! you racist. go watch another sport——————————————————————————————————————————————– Last time I checked….the NFL was not Kaps sport.

  19. It’s gotta be see exhausted to be offended by everything. Everything. I don’t even know how people can live their lives when they’re so busy looking for something to feel offended by. All of the feels!🙃

  20. McNair was probably just reflecting on all the players he’s had to jettison for criminal behavior. Foreman, Brandon Ivory, Brandon Walker, Jameel Cook, Jerome Mathis et al

  21. GAFFMANNEQUIN says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:26 pm
    Proud of the Texans. Racial inequality and injustice must be eliminated. McNair sounded like a plantation owner. It’s sad to see the ignorance of so many people in this comment section, but I don’t blame you for your ignorance. The only injustice most of you have ever seen is not getting your 4th Coca Cola filled up in time at the neighborhood Applebees.

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    Oh give it a rest with the stupid plantation references. This is not slavery as you are trying to allude. A slave does not have the option of walking away from a multi million dollar paycheck if he doesnt agree with what he has to do to earn it. Thats a really key difference you are ignoring what you start that nonsense.

  22. Most unlikable team in the league. I expect the next home game to be filled with empty seats. Texans don’t like un-Americans.

  23. catchanotherpassadams says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:39 pm
    No one seems to have a problem cashing McNair’s checks.

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    Nope. They do not. Wont have a problem cashing todays gamechecks either. Even as they talk like this.

  24. Why does everyone make such a huge deal out of every stupid thing that someone utters from their mouth. So what if McNair said what he said? If I made the millions that these guys make I wouldn’t care if someone called me an “inmate”. It seems like everything has to be politicized and/or have a racial angle these days. It’s getting ludicrous already!

  25. exinsidetrader says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:14 pm
    SJWs live to complain. They are functionally-insane and should be shunned by all. Sadly, the NFL is over-run by them.

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    Hold up. The lot of you guys are foaming at the mouth and catching hurt feelings because some, not even anywhere near a majority, but some players kneel during the national anthem and they’re the social justice warriors???? If you’re getting this bent out of shape over players kneeling the check a mirror pal.

  26. @exinsidetrader: Figures a former criminal inside trader would be on the side of the Drumphers and faux tough guys who buy Tiki Torches at their local Home Depot or Lowes.

    Talk about snowflakes.

  27. The problem was white police officers getting away with the cold blooded murder of innocent black people. Multiple instances were shown to us on videotape, and we shrugged our shoulders and said “we don’t give a hoot”. Never mind Bob McNair. There are millions of Bob McNair’s. So if you focus too much on McNair, you lose focus of what the whole thing is all about. Changing racist attitudes is like moving a mountain. It takes a lot of time and a lot of hard work. Americans are already working harder and longer than everyone else in the world, and with less to show for it. We really don’t have the energy for all this hard work.

  28. Im all for the NFL folding and a new league being formed where that max salary is 150k a year. It would be rough for the first few years but after that it would be great.

  29. As a Jag fan…hard to say it, but I am very…very proud of the texans players taking this stand. Thank God. Hopefully, the idiots who represent ownership will realize it is a player’s league, not an owner’s league. Proud to take a stand against idiotic supposed millionaires who are as gutless as the cheeto. There are like 5 ownership representatives who have the stones to take a stand for what it right.

  30. Since these players do not care what the fans think and feel, I don’t care what the players think or feel. They want to be heard but they don’t want to listen. This has to be the first time in history where professional athletes actually turned on their own fans.

  31. everyone with a brain knew exactly what he meant..his only mistake was apologizing..there is no placating these people. ever.

  32. arwiv says:

    Im all for the NFL folding and a new league being formed where that max salary is 150k a year. It would be rough for the first few years but after that it would be great.
    ==============================================================

    The non-politically correct XFL needs to come back. I would watch them in a heartbeat. And they played actual football.

  33. ———————————
    commentawaitingdeletion says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:41 pm
    Recalling your deflategate comments you are 4/5’s of the way there chip.
    ———————————
    The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit backs up the accuracy of my reporting on deflate-gate and Brady’s ridiculous legal challenges that he never had a chance of winning.

    Brady, Belichick, and the Patriots are cheaters. Brady decided not to appeal to the supreme court. I wonder why?

    And by the way, thanks for letting me know I made such an impression on you. That makes my day.

  34. cboys4life2014 says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:15 pm
    Some people ain’t happy unless they have something to be offended by which sadly enough seems like most of America right right now
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    Like all of the people offended by kneeling during the anthem? I totally agree! People are way too sensitive when it comes to political protests.

  35. So sick of these fake justice warriors. Mr Brown states he is part of the oppressed, when he makes $9million per year…or would have if he wasn’t feeling under appreciated for having to honor a contract he willing signed and sat out. I understand the career span of an nfl player is short. But lets put this in perspective they play a game, work about half a year and are pampered.
    the average person enlisted in the military receives less than $50,000 per year and puts their life on the line every day. Spend extended periods away from their families in areas where many people want them dead.

    He had a chip on his shoulder because they would cave to his demands, no way the meeting would go well in his eyes.

  36. Some straight ignorant people in this thread . What they are doing is happening before the game and it’s peaceful and as American as the flag, constitution, and paying taxes.

    Why on earth should world class professionals in their field “not accept pay” they have rightfully earned now because They found out that that their employer is so stupid he would use a common phrase that specifically goes against what the players are kneeling for which is the fair treatment and rights of minorities. Minorities who happen to be targeted by police and others in law enforcement and directly have resulted in so many black men being in prison.

    Comparing the worst best at their work to inmates is not only wrong but totally ridiculous. If you people do not earn enough money and resent others for their successes then you’re flat out a hater and stupid to begin with.

    No one in the NFL is lucky they have earned the right to be paid fair market value for their brief 3 Year career averages. I hope you’re outraged when you hear about the ceo of goodwill getting paid 18+ million a year to run a charity. Not a business built for profit or show but CHARITY.

    If you do not make enough money find a new profession or relocate to stronger economies. (Usually progressive states). Kneeling for the flag is not negative people telling others what their intentions are is absolutely ignorant no matter who you are. Ignoring athletes intentions to change the story to fit some negative agenda is just as dumb as the president blaming Hilary when his cohorts are about to get arrested and shown guilty. Only sheep can’t see this as true.

    Good day great game go hawks! Texans are a great team but need consistentcy on defense. Great formations and new plays coming out of the bye week.

  37. Did this fool come back from his holdout to stir up trouble?
    He should be sent straight to the unemployment line.

  38. Boycott NFL sponsors! The NFL is already bleeding out TV viewers, ticket sales, and all kinds of other sales. Losing money hurts them most. Boycott the sponsors and the owners really will cut loose any player that is foolish enough to kneel for any of their ridiculous reasons.

  39. Guess what. If McNair WAS referring to the players he would be 100% correct. These babies need spanked. I’ve never seen a group who thinks it has more entitlements then NFL players. You wanna kneel? Kneel on your own time. You don’t feel like standing for the national anthem, I turn off your game and don’t buy your swag. There re hundreds of players out there that would LOVE to have your jobs and guess what…. they might not be as good as you, but at least they won’t disrespect me by disrespecting what I stand for, God, Family, Country. Good thing I don’t own an NFL team or you kneelers would be out of jobs because YOU WOULD BE CASHING MY CHECKS. Screw you guys. Maybe the owners won’t call you bums out, but I will.

  40. I didn’t know that “inmates” got paid millions of dollars. Where can I apply to be an “inmate”? I’m crafting my cover letter and resume right now.

  41. New college course, childhood rhymes and metaphoric statements. Sticks and stones etc. These colleges should be embarrassed when one of their students graduate and cannot form proper sentences and sounding like they took to many shots to the head.

  42. Here goes the trump supporters? A lot of the people who have a problem with people not standing for the anthem the most are the people on this site that have never been touched by economic crisis or even a glimpse of poverty,singled out because of race. These are the most abrasive comments that hate to have to say. The anthem situation is going to bring more heat, because you’re role models and your actions are emulated and duplicated by others. Where as you might have stardom privilege that same thing wouldn’t work with a regular citizen. As a minority ethnicity you have to adapt and overcome because you have to think from the jump odds are going to be stacked against you.

  43. mysterytonite says:
    October 29, 2017 at 9:24 pm
    Maybe if this team would’ve spent half as much time focusing as they did protesting they wokldve won today’s game going away.
    – – – –

    They protested for about 1 minute during the singing of a song.

    So you’re saying if they would have soent only 30 seconds preparing, they would have won “going away”?

  44. Am I the only person that is glad McNair didn’t say…”The Owners need to start Crackin’ the whip.

  45. bayousooner90 says:
    October 29, 2017 at 9:19 pm
    So sick of these fake justice warriors. Mr Brown states he is part of the oppressed, when he makes $9million per year…
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    Anyone who would like to understand how a guy making $9 million a year can claim to be oppressed need only read the comments on virtually ANY article on Pro Football Talk. And someone here had the gall to say that the players were turning on the fans.

  46. Of course Brown did not walk out of the facility. He needs the year to count to get to an even bigger paycheck sooner.

    Kinda lets you know where his loyalties really lie. He won’t walk out cause he came back at the last possible moment or the Texans hold his contract one year longer.

    In other words,”I’m all for protests…..so long as it doesn’t hurt my earnings”.

  47. charliecharger says:

    October 29, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    The problem was white police officers getting away with the cold blooded murder of innocent black people.

    More white people are killed by the police than black. I get there is an issue but don’t act like y’all are the only ones.

  48. It looks like the Texans could use a whole new batch of “inmates” on defense. Russell Wilson had his way with them today. Or did the defense decide to take a knee during the game too?

  49. If any Texan player should be complaining, it shouldn’t be “Mr. Holdout” Duane Brown. Clearly the team didn’t mean that much to Brown as he held out as long as he could without forfeiting a contract year.

  50. ———————————-
    thenorseman817 says:
    October 29, 2017 at 10:02 pm
    New college course, childhood rhymes and metaphoric statements. Sticks and stones etc. These colleges should be embarrassed when one of their students graduate and cannot form proper sentences and sounding like they took to many shots to the head.
    ———————————-

    Speaking of college, you might consider enrolling in an English class. Your comment scored a 52 out of 100 in English grammar savoir-faire

  51. slick50kc says:
    October 29, 2017 at 8:54 pm
    Most unlikable team in the league. I expect the next home game to be filled with empty seats. Texans don’t like un-Americans.

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    I thought Texans wanted to secede from the U.S ???

  52. The inmates are running things. Especially, since the players thumbed their nose at him today. What a bunch of nonsense.

  53. I’d be willing to bet that most the commenters in this post don’t watch football anyway. They are just here because they got bored polishing their Nazi memorabilia and wanted to practice their fake patriotism routine before the Trump-circle indictments hit the fan tomorrow.

  54. He was silent? He didn’t show up for his multi million dollar contract for half the season. Now he wants to twist words to fit a narrative. Quality human being there

  55. inmate
    /ˈɪnˌmeɪt/
    noun
    1.
    a person who is confined to an institution such as a prison or hospital See also resident (sense 2)
    2.
    (obsolete) a person who lives with others in a house
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    Says nothing about race here.

  56. This article says nothing. It mentions that DB met with McNair, but only infers it must have been about McNair’s private comments made public by a NFL insider… Who’s employment will be short lived. As a betting man, I’d bet this was DB bitching about his contract and demanding a contact do-overs or trade. No doubt McNair laughed in his face…

  57. So what are we kneeling for this week? I’ve lost track. Creativity is obviously not a strength for NFL players. I wonder what it will be next week. Maybe the Eagle’s owner will say something about how he doesn’t like cheesesteaks and someone will cry racism and kneel for the anthem. Or maybe Hue Jackson will tell his team that they suck and are playing like a bunch of little girls and someone will cry sexism and kneel for anthem. Maybe the Broncos defense should kneel for the anthem because their offense is so terrible it surely must be caused by racism. Or the entire 49’ers team should kneel in protest to themselves because they couldn’t beat a college team. Why, you ask? Racism, of course. So, to the poor Texans….all of you millionaire victims that everyone is holding down and disrespecting, I’m sorry. I feel your pain. Your owner is clearly the devil because he is rich, white, and old and used an old saying he’s probably been saying for years about everything under the sun. Kids running the parents ragged? Don’t let the inmates run the prison. Students terrorizing the substitute teacher? Don’t let the inmates run the prison. Church choir not watching the director? Don’t let the inmates run the prison. NFL players protesting everything under the sun and making a GAME a nonsensical political platform? Don’t. Let. The. Inmates. Run. The. Prison. Grow up little boys. Not everyone is against you. Not everyone is trying to hold you down. Not everyone is disrespecting you. And here’s a shocker. Not everyone is racist. Just collect your millions, go play ball and shut up because the fans don’t give two rips what you have to say. We just want you to play well and as soon as you get out of the league we want the next guy to shut up and play well too until he’s gone. Don’t make this political. Go do your job and keep your mouth shut about it. Because ultimately whatever you say none of us fans care on iota about. So please stop wasting your breath and just play football. Stand, kneel. I don’t care. I just think you look like idiots down there doing all of that stuff that will do NOTHING for our Country. Just got play. That is the thing we care about when it comes to you. Nothing else.

  58. I love football. Coach my boys, watch high school and college. My family has not watched a pro game since this kneeling started. Imagine if I went to wirk and started every meeting with a kneel? When I told my second grader we would not be watching pro football anymore he said “even the Falcons?” Broke my heart but I said yes. I am a veteran, but it’s beyond that.

  59. This is a shame, because his only point was that the employees should not be allowed to make this decision. The employer should. There was nothing offensive or racist about what he said. You have to purposefully take it that way… and if you did that is racist. Unless of course you’re an ex-con, but you really can’t complain about a comment like that because it would be literal and not figurative based on your bad decisions in life.

  60. You always have the option of finding a new job where you can work for someone that agrees with your life philosophy. Or you can take the millions of $$$ from the mean old white guy that gave you the opportunity to live a great, secure, comfortable life.

  61. Seeing that Goodell didn’t have the foresight to get the league out in front of this last year when Kap first took a knee. I’m all for the NFL suspending this season until they get this protesting under control. This just can continue. Team owners need to get on the same page and protect the league from imploding via inmates running the asylum.

  62. Does anyone remember the story of “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”? Will someone in the media please?:
    interview these kneelers individually
    ask them which specific instances of “injustice” that they’re protesting
    ask them if they know any of the facts of the instance
    If a perceived injustice goes to court, and a jury finds no wrongdoing, are all the jurors racist?
    And one for Duane. Should Bob Mcnair have voted for Obama simply because of the color of his skin?

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