PFT’s Week 12 picks

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Say farewell to the bye weeks and hello of 16 games per weekend, for each of the final six weeks of the season.

Which is good news for me, since I’ve got a 10-game deficit to close. Unfortunately, disagree on only two games this week.

Which of course means that, come next week, I’ll likely be figuring out how to close a 12-game gap.

Vikings at Lions

MDS’s take: The Vikings can pretty much wrap up the NFC North with a win in Detroit, and I think they’ll do exactly that.

MDS’s pick: Vikings 21, Lions 20.

Florio’s take: It’s the de facto NFC North championship game, and the how-are-they-so-good? Vikings continue to defy expectations with a quarterback who is having a career year and a defense potentially for the ages.

Florio’s pick: Vikings 23, Lions 16.

Chargers at Cowboys

MDS’s take: The Cowboys have struggled mightily the last two weeks, more because of the injury to left tackle Tyron Smith than because of Ezekiel Elliott‘s suspension. Smith is supposed to be back on Thanksgiving, and as a result I’m taking the Cowboys.

MDS’s pick: Cowboys 24, Chargers 20.

Florio’s take: Not long ago, this one had the makings of a Cornell-Hofstra slaughter. Now, the expected slaughteree may become the slaughterer.

Florio’s pick: Chargers 24, Cowboys 20.

Giants at Washington

MDS’s take: This isn’t the game the NFL hoped it would be when it scheduled these teams for Thanksgiving prime time. Washington should cruise to an easy win.

MDS’s pick: Washington 27, Giants 13.

Florio’s take: Last year, the Giants foiled a Washington playoff berth in Week 17. This year, it could come five weeks earlier. But it won’t. (If it does, it could make Jay Gruden available to join his brother, Jon, if he returns to coaching in 2018.)

Florio’s pick: Washington 34, Giants 20.

Bills at Chiefs

MDS’s take: Sean McDermott made the coaching blunder of the year when he benched Tyrod Taylor for Nathan Peterman. That signaled to the roster that this staff is more interested in building for the future than winning this year, and that’s going to be hard to recover from.

MDS’s pick: Chiefs 28, Bills 13.

Florio’s take: Once viewed as sure-fire playoff teams, the Bills and Chiefs are on a combined 1-7 slide. The loser of this one will have a hard time making it to the postseason. The winner still might, too.

Florio’s pick: Chiefs 27, Bills 17.

Titans at Colts

MDS’s take: The Titans aren’t quite as good as their 6-4 record suggests, but the Colts are worse than their 3-7 record suggests.

MDS’s pick: Titans 21, Colts 10.

Florio’s take: The Titans have learned how to win the games they’re supposed to win. And they’re definitely supposed to win this one. If they don’t, they may not get a chance to play a game they’re supposed to lose in the payoffs.

Florio’s pick: Titans 23, Colts 13.

Browns at Bengals

MDS’s take: The Browns are running out of chances to win a game. I don’t see it happening in Cincinnati.

MDS’s pick: Bengals 24, Browns 17.

Florio’s take: The Browns can’t lose every game, can they? Even so, it’s impossible to predict that a team so lifeless will find life in any given week.

Florio’s pick: Bengals 30, Browns 13.

Buccaneers at Falcons

MDS’s take: The Falcons look like they’re ready to go on a run in the second half of the season, while the Buccaneers look like they’re going nowhere.

MDS’s pick: Falcons 31, Buccaneers 14.

Florio’s take: Both teams are turning it around, but the Falcons have more reason to believe that the streak will continue. For the Bucs, the basement of the NFC South seems like a given, which will serve only to increase calls for a return of Jon Gruden.

Florio’s pick: Falcons 27, Buccaneers 17.

Dolphins at Patriots

MDS’s take: Remember when Jarvis Landry predicted the Dolphins would sweep the Patriots? I think he was wrong about that.

MDS’s pick: Patriots 30, Dolphins 10.

Florio’s take: The Dolphins thought they could compete with the Patriots this year. But that was before the Dolphins became largely uncompetitive.

Florio’s pick: Patriots 34, Dolphins 20.

Bears at Eagles

MDS’s take: An easy schedule is helping Philadelphia march toward the first seed in the NFC. A win over the Bears is all but assured.

MDS’s pick: Eagles 31, Bears 13.

Florio’s take: Twenty-nine years after these two teams met in the Fog Bowl, one of them will be feeling like they can’t see five feet in front of them.

Florio’s pick: Eagles 40, Bears 17.

Panthers at Jets

MDS’s take: The Panthers’ defense should pretty well shut down the Jets’ offense in what promises to be a boring game.

MDS’s pick: Panthers 13, Jets 3.

Florio’s take:  The Jets have performed respectably well this year, but the losses could keep mounting as they encounter some superior opponents.

Florio’s pick: Panthers 30, Jets 17.

Seahawks at 49ers

MDS’s take: Remember when this was the best rivalry in football? That feels so long ago. Now the Seahawks are struggling, but the 49ers are much worse than just “struggling.”

MDS’s pick: Seahawks 20, 49ers 9.

Florio’s take: The friends-and-family confines of Levi’s Stadium host what not long ago was one of the best rivalries in football. Now? Not.

Florio’s pick: Seahawks 20, 49ers 10.

Saints at Rams

MDS’s take: The Saints are playing as well as any team in football right now, but in Los Angeles I think they’re going to struggle against a very good defense and lose a low-scoring game.

MDS’s pick: Rams 14, Saints 13.

Florio’s take: It’s the game of the day, regardless of whether Angelinos will show up accordingly. The Saints are too balanced, and the Rams were exposed a bit in Minnesota.

Florio’s pick: Saints 30, Rams 27.

Jaguars at Cardinals

MDS’s take: The Jaguars have the best pass defense in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert is not the quarterback to beat Jacksonville.

MDS’s pick: Jaguars 20, Cardinals 6.

Florio’s take: The Jaguars are becoming what the Cardinals had been. And the Jaguars are learning how to win consistently.

Florio’s pick: Jaguars 23, Cardinals 17.

Broncos at Raiders

MDS’s take: In the battle of teams that fired coordinators this week, I think the Raiders’ defense has a better chance of turning things around than the Paxton Lynch-led Broncos’ offense.

MDS’s pick: Raiders 24, Broncos 14.

Florio’s take: Not long ago, this looked like it could be a really good game. Now, it’s a fight to stay out of the AFC West basement between a pair of teams that have little shot at climbing to the top floor.

Florio’s pick: Raiders 23, Broncos 14.

Packers at Steelers

MDS’s take: If Aaron Rodgers were playing this would be the game of the day, but with Brett Hundley facing the Steelers’ defense, I don’t think it will be close.

MDS’s pick: Steelers 30, Packers 12.

Florio’s take: It’s when the Steelers are flying the highest that they seem to smack in to a window. But the Packers with Brett Hundley? Not even the Steelers at their most complacent could fail this test.

Florio’s pick: Steelers 31, Packers 13.

Texans at Ravens

MDS’s take: The Ravens’ defense has played well this year in part because Baltimore has had a fortunate schedule of playing against a lot of teams with injured quarterbacks. That continues against the Texans, and Baltimore will shut down Tom Savage.

MDS’s pick: Ravens 17, Texans 7.

Florio’s take: Every year, a team hovering near .500 finds the gas pedal. Why not the team that has throttled its way to three shutouts in 10 games?

Florio’s pick: Ravens 20, Texans 6.

39 responses to “PFT’s Week 12 picks

  1. Actually Florio, I think you’ve a more than 50% chance of being right about Saints edging Rams.

  2. I agree with most of these, possibly except for the Rams, Florio. I think the Saints are coming off an emotional and improbable win at home that was made possible by an incompetent opponent and officials. Rams will rebound and throttle the Saints 30-17

  3. Florio, you would probably do better if you flipped a coin.

    Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow Americans!!

  4. Nice to see that igglesmania is admiring that the NFC East does not have a good football team in it this year

  5. Mother of God these games are awful. Perhaps ratings are down (even more from last year’s low ratings) is bc of their piss poor product.

  6. Thanksgiving and the Super Bowl are my two favorite football days of the year. Happy Buttfumble Day everyone!

  7. Patriots 31 Dolphins 20 Dolphins keep it close until late in the third quarter thanks to a strong run game and some play action passing to Gronkowski and Amendola. Lock of the week Eagles over the Bears 38 to 17 can’t see anyone in the NFC stopping the Eagles right now. Upset of the week I’m going with the Lions over the Vikings 24 to 21.

  8. Cowboys Will Win!!!……..The First Half LOL. Then the coaches will out dummy themselves like always.
    Happy Thanksgiving Everyone Enjoy the Family Friends & Food!

  9. Good luck today Lions. If Stafford cannot expose our clear weakest link on the defense, Trae Waynes, I think the North belongs to Minnesota.

  10. Pack guy hear. I think the vike’s won big today. Hat’s-off too them for building a great team. Hope my pack are takeing notes, this season was trash.
    Can’t help yourself can you? What’s the point of pretending to be a packer fan? Just be happy your team is having a good year! Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in Pft land….except this troll.

  11. weepingjebus says:

    November 23, 2017 at 10:19 am

    Thanksgiving and the Super Bowl are my two favorite football days of the year. Happy Buttfumble Day everyone!


    Leon Lett disagrees with that this day should be proclaimed Buttfumble Day.

  12. This season went down the drain quickly with BrINT Hundley as we all knew it would. Watching the Pack every year, you always get that sense of “when/how are we going to choke?” Defensive collapse? Injured QB? Poor coaching?

    When I watch the Vikings, I see the most complete team in football. Both sides of the ball are incredibly deep. They’re not one injury away from being the joke of the league. This is the team to beat in the NFC. Hats off to Rick and Zim for acquiring and developing so much talent.

    Back to the 70s for my Pack.

  13. Highlight game of the week is definitely the saints rams. Not sure the eagles fan above has some biased opinion on the game against Washington but the saints definitely are coming off an emotional win against an inept coaching staff but the officiating was fine and no excuse on why they won. With that being said I’m not sure why the saints won’t be fired up for this game. They don’t have time to celebrate a win over Washington win they’re having such a tight battle in the nfc. They will be focused. Will they win?? Who knows but last week isn’t going to have any effect on the outcome. Just a silly ridiculous comment.

  14. Pkrlvr, why all the attacks on a fellow pack fan guy? I know this season hasn’t gone well but it’s no reason too eat our-own. I wish you a happy thanksgiving despite how rude you are too me. Signed a real pack fan!!!

  15. numba1wiscosportsfan says:
    November 23, 2017 at 9:30 am
    Pack guy hear. I think the vike’s won big today. Hat’s-off too them for building a great team. Hope my pack are takeing notes, this season was trash.
    If I were a Packer fan I would be furious at how very average your team is without Rodgers! Minnesota has been operating 2013 without a franchise QB but still stayed competitive.
    Other teams have gleamed very good players off the practice squad that are on teams now being productive.
    Unfortunately your worries may not end next season, that is the second break on Rodgers throwing shoulder. I think the Hundley experiment is over, I’d hope Ted drafts a QB..

  16. 6ball says:
    November 23, 2017 at 9:12 am
    Outside of Saints-Rams the whole Sunday schedule is a pack of dogs.


    I agree, but welcome to the 2017 season and in large part the modern NFL. Only difference between this year and the previous few years are I think there are fewer truly talented teams out there, making each week a pick between bad or mediocre football, or no football at all. Seems like a lot of people are picking no football.

    Today I will watch a couple of games, because even bad football on Thanksgiving is a tradition. But I am not excited about this week’s slate of games. Again.

  17. Hundley won’t repeat his mistakes, he will use last week’s poor decisions as a learning experience. Packers 20 Steelers 17

  18. “Also can’t wait to rub mashed potatoes in both of my Packer loving step brothers face! Happy Turkey Day”!!

    Step Brothers are bad enough, WITHOUT being Packer fans on top of it! I’m feelin for ya. lol

  19. Saints at Rams

    Florio’s take: The Saints are too balanced, and the Rams were exposed a bit in Minnesota.


    Mike, the Saints were exposed there too.

  20. I will be shocked if my Cowboys’ win, I hate to say! They still have JG as HC 🙁

    Nevertheless, I hope those who celebrate, HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BLESSED THANKSGIVING DAY!!!!!! There are more important things outside of football, let us never forget…..

  21. usdcoyotesfan says:
    November 23, 2017 at 11:11 am
    Hundley won’t repeat his mistakes, he will use last week’s poor decisions as a learning experience. Packers 20 Steelers 17



  22. usdcoyotesfan says:
    “..Hundley won’t repeat his mistakes, he will use last week’s poor decisions as a learning experience. Packers 20 Steelers 17…”

    It’s a little early to be that drunk dude.

  23. Falcons have the talent and if they are finally solving their play-calling woahs they could get back to high scoring… As 1 said the Bucs are going nowhere… Falcons win

    Panthers and Jets are similiar this year, not really dominating but playing just good enough to win or lose…Panthers better defense… Panthers win

    Saints are the hot team having an impressive season and the Rams have improved but not to the Saints level… Saints win

  24. Fun stat: QB Rating when pressured. Top 2:

    Tom Brady 136.6

    Not a typo.

    Gee Oh Ay to tha Tee. Period.


  25. Could the officiating be any worse? Really? Vikings-Lions. A bad as we have seen. And so it goes.

  26. Steelers all the way. They just played a phenomenal game against the Titans. I predict that IF they even lose another game, it will be to the Ravens at home, those games are always nasty. The rest of the league, AFC or NFC, doesn’t stand a chance against this team right now.

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