Carson Wentz tops fan Pro Bowl voting

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 30, 2017, 5:32 AM EST
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Millions of fans have cast Pro Bowl votes at NFL.com, and Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz is their favorite.

Wentz leads all players with 422,491 Pro Bowl votes. That puts him ahead of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell, Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown and Saints quarterback Drew Brees in the Top 5.

With a league-leading 28 touchdown passes for the 10-1 Eagles, Wentz is widely considered the leading Most Valuable Player candidate, so it’s unsurprising that he’s leading the way in fan voting.

Fan voting continues through December 14. Players and coaches also get a vote, and the Pro Bowl rosters will be announced on December 19.

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81 responses to “Carson Wentz tops fan Pro Bowl voting”

  1. Cue all of the spoiled baby pats fans complaining about why it’s not Brady with the most votes, while they ignore the fact that Wentz leads the league in TDs, only 5 picks, and the team with the best record in football.

  2. Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!

  4. Not only is Carson Wentz leading the Pro Bowl voting but he should be in the lead for NFL MVP. Brady is a close 2nd to Wentz but no one expected the Eagles to be 10-1 at this point in the season and Brady is expected to have the huge stats and lead the Patriots to compared to Wentz and the Eagles when most pundits and experts expected them to finish 3rd or last in the NFC East behind the Giants and Cowboys!!

  6. Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!

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    Dude it goes beyond stats. You have to actually WATCH the guy play to understand why he is the current MVP. For example Wentz won’t have as many passing yards per game due to the fact the guy is usually pulled in the 3rd quarter due to the fact the Eagles have been blowing teams out every week. In addition, they will run it more in the second half because they are playing with a huge lead. Your stats also don’t account for Wentz leading the lead in 3rd down percentage as well as Red Zone percentage. What does that tell you? If you understand football then you understand that when it comes to critical moments in the game, Wentz comes through big time. Your comparison also completely ignores what Wentz does with his legs, avoiding contact, rushing for first downs ect. You also ignore circumstance. Brady is playing on the defending superbowl champions with big time players such as Gronk or Brandin Cooks. Wentz turned around a team that was supposed to finish in the bottom of their division and many though wasn’t even going to make the playoffs. Finally, Just watch the guy play. If you don’t pick up a few WOW plays every game then you might need glasses. Not taking anything away from Brady, but Wentz has been the MVP so far this season.

  7. Streetyson, Tom Brady is having one of his best statistical seasons agreed, and a solid argument can be made he is deserving of MVP this year. However, before you completely discount Wentz’s stats, realize the Eagles have blown out 5 out of 10 opponents (and had a big 4th quarter lead against New York), which means even in the games he did play all 4 quarters, he hasn’t been throwing much in the 4th

  8. Right you are, PieEye. Wentz would be either in concussion protocol or hospital if he were a Brown.

  9. @cookerduff

    I’m a Pats fan, and I’d give Wentz the nod…..right now. Through 11 weeks. He’s played at a very high level and has led a team to the NFLs best record to date. There’s a lot more season to go, and as the poster below you pointed out, there’s a lot more to winning the MVP than Throwig the most TDs.

  10. streetyson says:

    November 30, 2017 at 6:22 am

    Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!

    —————–

    Are you aware that for the last several weeks, Wentz has only played 3/4 of a game?

    Stats don’t tell a complete story every time.

  11. streetyson says:
    November 30, 2017 at 6:22 am
    Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!
    ————

    Delusional. All you have to do is watch him. He’s the most amazing young QB I’ve ever seen, bar none. And he’s made the whole team better…he’s Tebow with talent. Clear MVP.

  13. Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!

    ***

    You forgot to include the win-loss record…

  14. Philly without Wentz, 3-4 win team.

    Pat’s without Brady, 10+ win team.

    If anything on the Pat’s is going to win MVP it’s the system that has made Brady his whole career.

  15. I’m a Pats fan and prefer that Brady not win the annual Peyton Manning Condolence Award. SB MVP will have to do.

  16. I think being the top Pro Bowl vote getter with 5games remaining in the regular season and being the Super Bowl winning MVP are like the same thing right ,,,,,,,,,

  17. .
    Brady already has a couple of league MVP trophies, plus four Super Bowl MVPs. He doesn’t need the hardware. Let the kid have his day in the sun.
    .

  18. Fans who can’t respect their opponents have something wrong with them. Wentz is having an amazing season and a lot of people recognize it. That’s a good thing and it doesn’t mean nobody respects the good players on your team, as well.

  19. They should have a most valuable injured player. Without a doubt, Aaron Rodgers is the winner. Without him, the Packers are completely different.

    This is no joke. Name one other player whose team is this bad if they lose him. Can’t do it.

  20. I’m fine with letting Philly win something off the field.
    Pats fan.

    Plus I was dead wrong about Wentz. I didn’t think he’d be any good let alone capable of an MVP level season. It’s good for the sport.

  21. Really, if you care about this, you’re priorities are whack. Cry me a river Pats fans about your golden boy not getting the most votes. You’ll get zero empathy here. – Sorry for “letting the air” out of the room.

  22. Well deserved. The guy is playing phenomenal, and should be in discussions to be MVP if he keeps this up.

  25. At those arguing against me:
    What you are all overlooking is that Brady is doing all this on a team that’s lost half it’s starters – their leading WR, 2 other starting WRs, 2 starting o-line, 3 starting d-line, captain of the defense & 2 other starting LBs, 2 starting DBs, captain of the special-teams, and 4 other supporting players – plus lost their leading DE (Ninkovich) in late preseason. And that’s not even counting the walking wounded nor losing last year’s leading scorer (Blount) to the Eagles.

  27. Why would anyone vote for Brady? He will be ineligible to go to the pro bowl as he will be preparing for the SB. To that end Wentz is a perfect selection!

  28. Wait, I thought Kareem Hunt was going to be #1 in the votes and was also going to be put into the Hall of Fame soon? What happened?

  29. What a joke.
    It should be Case Keenum.
    He’s a far better QB.
    It’s a moot point, if the Eagles meet up with the Vikings in the playoffs, there ain’t no way Wentz will be able to play in the pro bowl anyway.
    Purple Pride can’t be stopped!!!

  30. Brady might be the best QB of all time when you take his whole career into account, but Wentz is a a special, ascending talent who has the potential to be every bit as good as Brady.

  31. scmems07 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 7:45 am
    Philly without Wentz, 3-4 win team.

    Pat’s without Brady, 10+ win team.

    If anything on the Pat’s is going to win MVP it’s the system that has made Brady his whole career.
    ———
    This argument is so dated and as bad as spygate talk. How can you argue how good a team is without a second year guy who’s basically played every game, kind of silly. And for the umpteenth time, the 10+ win season without Brady you are referring to was 11, which was a FIVE game drop in wins, that’s all lot. Brady took that same team to 16-0. And Cassel’s stats were very average, something 24/25 TDs less than what Brady threw, etc….

    Wentz is looking like a stud, and playing like one, and I put him #1 at this point in the season, but to pretend like no one is close is just as salty as others are claiming.

    Remember the Pats defense in the half of the season getting gashed weekly, at a record pace? Not like a bad year pace, but record pace like in history. Carson has benefitted from a much better overall defense to date and its showed.

    Wentz #1, Brady #2, Wilson #3 at this point. Others are close behind too. A lot will change in the coming weeks when many of these MVP candidates gave off against one another.

    Regardless, what’s happening with this top level talent being injected into the Sport is good for the game, good for the fans and fun to watch.

  32. They should have a most valuable injured player. Without a doubt, Aaron Rodgers is the winner. Without him, the Packers are completely different.
    —–
    Your timing couldn’t be worse. Without Aaron Rogers, the Packers just hung with the #1 seed in the AFC.
    Pitt 31 GB 28.
    That was literally just a few days ago.

  33. So much for that college level of competition thing, I guess. USC, FSU, Notre Dame, Alabama, tOSU, Michigan, and half dozen other of the biggest college names only wish they had turned out a QB as good as Wentz in the past 10 years.

  34. jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:02 am
    What a joke.
    It should be Case Keenum.
    He’s a far better QB.

    ————-

    And yet the Vikings are considering benching Case for Teddy Bridgewater?

  35. I hope Carson’s success will cause NFL teams to look at kids from lesser known programs. Carson may not have been playing against the SEC but he also wasn’t playing with an SEC squad. He won on the field, led off of it. Good for him, he’s an awesome kid and someone the city can get behind.

  36. MVP Brady or MVP Wentz, both deserve it. As does Pederson or Beli for COY. Maybe the fact that Wentz is leading a team out of oblivion is more of a reflection of Pederson than of himself… I can’t say. But I do think that the previous team situation and where they are now swings the vote towards wentz perhaps. Whereas Brady is playing the same, and the team is doing the same as it did when Garapolo was qb…

  37. Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.

  38. Dude it goes beyond stats. You have to actually WATCH the guy play to understand why he is the current MVP. For example Wentz won’t have as many passing yards per game due to the fact the guy is usually pulled in the 3rd quarter due to the fact the Eagles have been blowing teams out every week.
    –
    Sounds like a team that could blow out those last 4 weak teams without Wentz. Sort of a system type of thing.

    Seriously, I wish Wentz all the best. It’s clear the 31 are sick of NE dominance and want someone new. So the question is, will the NFC have the MVP QB once again and then lose the SB? All those hopeful votes didn’t help Ryan or Newton now did they?

  39. jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.
    –
    I’m sorry, I can’t recall. Was it MN of Buffalo that holds the record for SB losses?

  40. jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.

    ———–

    I live in NH and it was cold on Monday when I went outside. My low tire pressure light was on indicating that my tire pressures were too low. It’s good to know that Tom Brady came by my house and removed air from my tires.

    This is how silly one would need to be to believe your statement.

  41. Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________

    How was he caught red handed? Even the NFL admitted in federal court they have no evidence. So again, how was he caught red handed? Literally, every objective observer knows Deflategate was made up. I’ll ask one more time, how was he caught red handed?

  42. He’s no Cam Newton! AND….that’s a good thing! Carson seems like a humble and well-grounded person who just loves to play FB, not the type of guy that plays for $ or attention. Would be easy to pull for them, except if they play my fav team.

  43. jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.

    ————-

    Also, you don’t seriously believe the Vikings are going to make it to the SB do you? really? Sorry pal…..that isn’t going to happen….

  44. Only people that are really excited about Wentz leading the pro bowl voting are 10 year olds and all Eagle fans because they think they get part of the pro bowl bonus. Strange folk. You are not part of the team eagle fan. Nothing magical happens when the Eagles win or Wentz goes to the pro bowl.

  45. streetyson says:

    November 30, 2017 at 8:49 am

    At those arguing against me:
    What you are all overlooking is that Brady is doing all this on a team that’s lost half it’s starters – their leading WR, 2 other starting WRs, 2 starting o-line, 3 starting d-line, captain of the defense & 2 other starting LBs, 2 starting DBs, captain of the special-teams, and 4 other supporting players – plus lost their leading DE (Ninkovich) in late preseason. And that’s not even counting the walking wounded nor losing last year’s leading scorer (Blount) to the Eagles.
    ———————————————————————

    NE isn’t the only team with Injuries. Eagles lost Probowl LT Jason Peters, Sproles, Stud MLB Jordan Hicks, Backup MLB Joe Walker now hurt, Fletcher Cox missed several games, Top CB Darby (most of year), Maragos, Ertz missed time, ect…. Stop it. The Eagles have had as many injuries as any team out there, so why would you bring them up for NE and not Philly. How about some consistency?

  46. Lemmy Aksyadis says:

    November 30, 2017 at 9:51 am

    Dude it goes beyond stats. You have to actually WATCH the guy play to understand why he is the current MVP. For example Wentz won’t have as many passing yards per game due to the fact the guy is usually pulled in the 3rd quarter due to the fact the Eagles have been blowing teams out every week.
    –
    Sounds like a team that could blow out those last 4 weak teams without Wentz. Sort of a system type of thing.

    Seriously, I wish Wentz all the best. It’s clear the 31 are sick of NE dominance and want someone new. So the question is, will the NFC have the MVP QB once again and then lose the SB? All those hopeful votes didn’t help Ryan or Newton now did they?
    —————————————————-

    Patriots would win 10+ games without Brady as well as we have seen them do it before. The Eagles would be nowhere close to 10-1 without Wentz.

    As for your MVP comment and them winning the Superbowl, who knows. We don’t know what to expect from a second year QB in the playoffs. This isn’t the point. The point is currently as we sit Wentz is the MVP of the league and to be where he is in his second year is amazing. Now Brady could still overtake him and win it by the end of the season, but if the season was over today I think it is pretty clear. Winning MVP doesn’t guarantee you anything as far as winning it all. I don’t know how Wentz or the Eagles will perform in the playoffs, but what I do know is they have the balance to win it all. They have the pass rush to stop a guy like Brady in the playoffs, kind of like the Giants did twice. That being said until someone actually beats the Patriots they should be considered the favorites. To be the champs you need to beat the champs, and that is no easy task.

  47. November 30, 2017 at 10:01 am

    jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.

    ———–

    I live in NH and it was cold on Monday when I went outside. My low tire pressure light was on indicating that my tire pressures were too low. It’s good to know that Tom Brady came by my house and removed air from my tires.

    This is how silly one would need to be to believe your statement.

    ———————-

    Sort of… but wouldn’t it be more like if Tom brady was on record as saying that he liked the air pressure in YOUR cars tires lower, and none of the other tires on the street or other peoples cars were lower, and a guy that brady texts with alot, and calls “the deflator,” was seen going into a closet with your car tires in a bag, and THEN your car tires were low pressure?

  48. Wentz has been great this year and looks to be an unstoppable force for the next decade+.

    Reminds me of what I thought about Daunte Culpepper early in his career – hopefully Wentz has better fortune than him. He seems like a great human.

  50. eaglesnoles05 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 10:29 am
    November 30, 2017 at 10:01 am

    jimmarshall70 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 9:38 am
    Sick of all the Brady comments.
    He’s been caught red handed for cheating.
    It can’t be denied anymore, through the Pat fans still will.
    Hope the Patriots make it to the Super Bowl again, seriously.
    I would love to watch the Viking Defense rip his head off.
    Just ask Packer fans how we deal with opposing QBs.

    ———–

    I live in NH and it was cold on Monday when I went outside. My low tire pressure light was on indicating that my tire pressures were too low. It’s good to know that Tom Brady came by my house and removed air from my tires.

    This is how silly one would need to be to believe your statement.

    ———————-

    Sort of… but wouldn’t it be more like if Tom brady was on record as saying that he liked the air pressure in YOUR cars tires lower, and none of the other tires on the street or other peoples cars were lower, and a guy that brady texts with alot, and calls “the deflator,” was seen going into a closet with your car tires in a bag, and THEN your car tires were low pressure?

    ————–

    Then why were my neighbors’ tires (Colts footballs) also under-inflated? Did “Tom” remove the air from those as well?

    Do you see how silly this is?

  51. jimmarshall70 says:

    November 30, 2017 at 9:02 am

    What a joke.
    It should be Case Keenum.
    He’s a far better QB.
    It’s a moot point, if the Eagles meet up with the Vikings in the playoffs, there ain’t no way Wentz will be able to play in the pro bowl anyway.

    ——-

    Youre absolutely right. If the Eagles meet the Vikings, he wont be able to play in the Pro Bowl. He will be heading to the Super Bowl.

  52. Sort of… but wouldn’t it be more like if Tom brady was on record as saying that he liked the air pressure in YOUR cars tires lower, and none of the other tires on the street or other peoples cars were lower, and a guy that brady texts with alot, and calls “the deflator,” was seen going into a closet with your car tires in a bag, and THEN your car tires were low pressure?
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Except Tom Brady never said that. He said he wants the footballs at the lower end of the recommended limits, not below. Not once did he say he wanted below the range. Also, 3/4 of the Colts balls were also under regulation. How is it this hard to get the simple facts wrong?

  54. Sort of… but wouldn’t it be more like if Tom brady was on record as saying that he liked the air pressure in YOUR cars tires lower, and none of the other tires on the street or other peoples cars were lower, and a guy that brady texts with alot, and calls “the deflator,” was seen going into a closet with your car tires in a bag, and THEN your car tires were low pressure?
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Except Tom Brady never said that. He said he wants the footballs at the lower end of the recommended limits, not below. Not once did he say he wanted below the range. Also, 3/4 of the Colts balls were also under regulation. How is it this hard to get the simple facts wrong?

    ————-

    What’s not hard is to rile people up on this dead horse subject with jokes and jokes and jokes. Y’all lighten up. Everyone is working with their own version of facts based on what people want you to know and what has been kept under wraps. Just like any situation you aren’t directly privy to. Smelled bad to me mainly because Brady’s reactions and changes to his responses based on releases of info. I’m not foolish enough to think that I, joe fan, knows actual facts about waht happened of didn’t. That’s for pats fans and pats haters.

  55. ….Some will suely speculate that all we see and hear and read about every situation the pats and Brady are involved in (or not) isn’t completely made of out of the blue in a giant worldwide conspiracy to derail the HOF career of the guy who is gonna be 2nd in MVP voting this year, though.

  56. Lol. It’s hilarious how clueless some fans are. “2 yard Tom”. He is tops in the league in YPA. According to Pro Football Focus he’s been the best deep passer in the league.

    “Brady is a system QB. If a system could bring those kind of statistics out of a QB every team would run it and you would have more than just one QB putting up those stats in that system. It’s not rocket science, it’s football and that system is being used by other teams in the league with average results. Unfortunately for all you clueless fans other people can be objective which is why he’s widely called the GOAT. Sorry Peyton fans and all the other haters. Get use to it because you’re going to be hearing it for decades to come. Lol

  57. Pat’s without Brady, 10+ win team.
    —-
    List of all Patriots playoff appearances without the services of Tom Brady:

  58. Patriots would win 10+ games without Brady as well as we have seen them do it before. T
    —
    They still missed the playoffs after going undefeated in the regular season the year before. 🙂 That’s because they had a cream puff schedule and for the few good teams they did play they couldn’t beat any of them. Actually – they got blown out by them. I wonder why? 🙂

    Patriots would be a .500 team at best right now without the GOAT Tom Brady. Nothing more. Period.

  59. I said Jared Goff was set to take a big step forward this year and got laughed at.

    Funny how that’s stopped. I wonder why? 🙂

  60. ariani1985 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:08 pm
    2 yard tom is going to snap!!
    ———-
    Tom Brady yards per attempt = 8.27 on 408 attempts. Both are #1 in the league among active QBs.

    Thanks for playing, try again

  61. Ready for you mind to be blown? I 100% think Brady is the greatest QB of all time. No question. And ALSO, i am objective in my dissemination and analysis of what I see and hear and read and think there may have been a slight chance that he has been slightly less than honest about his involvement and/or knowledge in/of certain things during his career. Maybe it’s both. (Head explosion)

  63. Wentz will be MVP if enough voters discount the fact that Tom Brady is having a historic season at 40 years old, showing no signs of slowing down, and is at or near the top of the leaderboards in stats that matter, and leading his team to a fight for the #1 seed in the conference, all the while missing his #1 receiver for the season, and not having a reliable defense to count on.

    This is not baseball, there won’t be any Sabr number crunching to figure out MVP, sometimes the eye test is sufficient. When I see Brady I see MVP in a close call with Wentz. And so will enough voters.

    Lots of football left though. We shall see. 🙂

  65. Lol. It’s hilarious how clueless some fans are. “2 yard Tom”
    =====

    Its even more amazing watching you guys take the troll bait every.single.time.

  66. Eagle and Pat fans are almost as dumb as Packer fans.
    The Vikes are going to the Super Bowl and there isn’t a thing anyone can do about it.
    In the past injuries and officiating have held us back, but not this year.
    Stand back and get out of our way or you may get hurt.
    Just ask Erin Rodgers what happens when you try and defy us.
    Go Vikes!!!

  67. Christopher says:
    November 30, 2017 at 10:26 am
    Lemmy Aksyadis says:

    November 30, 2017 at 9:51 am

    Dude it goes beyond stats. You have to actually WATCH the guy play to understand why he is the current MVP. For example Wentz won’t have as many passing yards per game due to the fact the guy is usually pulled in the 3rd quarter due to the fact the Eagles have been blowing teams out every week.
    –
    Sounds like a team that could blow out those last 4 weak teams without Wentz. Sort of a system type of thing.

    Seriously, I wish Wentz all the best. It’s clear the 31 are sick of NE dominance and want someone new. So the question is, will the NFC have the MVP QB once again and then lose the SB? All those hopeful votes didn’t help Ryan or Newton now did they?
    —————————————————-

    Patriots would win 10+ games without Brady as well as we have seen them do it before. The Eagles would be nowhere close to 10-1 without Wentz.
    =
    Reality check, we saw this once and only once in 2008. Who in the name of pro football does that translate into this year? These memes are really getting out of hand. You do something once and all of a sudden it’s a yearly thing? The marginalizing of Brady is the prime indicator of who does and does not truly understand the game, the position or the player.

  68. VikingPride says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:07 pm
    Eagle and Pat fans are almost as dumb as Packer fans.
    The Vikes are going to the Super Bowl and there isn’t a thing anyone can do about it.
    In the past injuries and officiating have held us back, but not this year.
    Stand back and get out of our way or you may get hurt.
    Just ask Erin Rodgers what happens when you try and defy us.
    Go Vikes!!!

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    Not sure what this has to do with the Pats as the Pats are in the AFC but c’mon man…..we all know how this ends. The Vikings will not be playing in the SB. We have seen this dance many times before.

  69. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm
    List of all Patriots playoff appearances without the services of Tom Brady:
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    1998
    1997
    1996
    1994
    1986
    1985
    1982
    1978
    1976
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    Is there a point to this? What on earth has 1976 got to do with this year or even the 2001 Pats? How many one and done playoffs? How does this compare to the last 17 years where NE has won the AFC 7 times? I know about your AR man crush but it’s a silly comparison.

  70. And for the umpteenth time, the 10+ win season without Brady you are referring to was 11, which was a FIVE game drop in wins, that’s all lot. Brady took that same team to 16-0.
    ________________________________________

    The following year after winning 11 games with Matt Cassell, Brady and the Patriots won 10 games.

  71. objectivefootballfan says:
    November 30, 2017 at 6:41 am
    If Wentz can go on the road in back to back weeks and beat the Seahawks in Seattle and then go to L.A. and beat a hot Rams team, the MVP is a lock for Carson !!

    —
    Indeed. That will be a good test.

  72. scmems07 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:21 pm
    And for the umpteenth time, the 10+ win season without Brady you are referring to was 11, which was a FIVE game drop in wins, that’s all lot. Brady took that same team to 16-0.
    ________________________________________
    The following year after winning 11 games with Matt Cassell, Brady and the Patriots won 10 games

    —-
    And yet they made the playoffs which the previous year they did not.

    Funny how that works eh?

    🙂

  73. Put Brady on the Eagles. Upgrade? Possibly.
    Put Wentz on the Patriots. Upgrade? No freaking way.

    /debate

    🙂

  74. Is there a point to this?
    ======

    No.

    There’s no point to this at all.

    You asked a dumb question, and got what you wanted, another chance to strut around like a rooster bragging about the Pats.

    As if we all can’t see you for what you are without the charade.

  75. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:59 pm
    List of all Patriots playoff appearances without the services of Tom Brady:
    =====
    1998
    1997
    1996
    1994
    1986
    1985
    1982
    1978
    1976
    —-
    Yeah and the Packers have made the playoffs numerous times without Rodgers. Lulz.

    #CmonMan
    #YerBetterThanThat

  77. Put Wentz on the Patriots. Upgrade? No freaking way.
    =====

    LOL.

    SO… Doug Pederson can win with Wentz…………….. but the mastermind, genius, Great Powerful Oz, GCOAT can’t???………………

    New lows for you guys today.

  78. Wentz 28 TDs, 5 INTs, 1.4 %INT, 2657 yds (7.5 ypa, 242 ypg), 213 comps, rating 104.0
    Brady 26 TDs, 3 INTs, 0.7 %INT, 3374 yds (8.3 ypa, 307 ypg), 279 comps, rating 111.7

    In TDs, Brady is 2nd only to Wentz, but in INT, %INT, Yards, YPA, completions and passer rating, Brady leads the league, often by a mile (most notably %INT where no other leader is under 1%, and yards where Brady is 336yds ahead of 2nd placed Cousins), whereas Wentz is merely 4th to 11th in those various categories, and only 17th in completions.

    But thank god salty Brady haters found this year’s please-anyone-but-Brady candidate! Yay!

    ———————-

    Tom Brady plays in the 4th quarter. WEntz doesnt and when he does he just hands off. Wentz would easily have 32-33 tds and the same amount of yards as Brady if they didnt blow teams out so fast.

    By the way I hope they meet in the Superbowl. So we can show what Philly does to NE when NE is cheating and taping everything they do.

  79. Reality check, we saw this once and only once in 2008.
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    Patriots have a .714 winning % without Tom Brady since he became the starter.

  80. Who cares about the Pro Bowl? Wentz can have it, I’d prefer Tom Brady was alternately occupied that weekend getting ready for the Super Bowl.

  81. suit me to have mvp wentz and his coach of the year in the bowl going against my two favorite unaccomplished schlubs from new england.

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