Jack Del Rio has a 50-50 shot of not returning

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Yes, we have fun from time to time with reports that amount to something potentially happening, “unless it doesn’t.” But, sometimes, something actually does represent an actual 50-50 proposition.

And that’s precisely what’s going on with Raiders coach Jack Del Rio. Per a league source, it’s currently a coin flip for Del Rio.

Yes, Del Rio signed an extension after the team made it to the playoffs in 2016. Without knowing how much of the deal is fully guaranteed, however, it’s impossible to know what it would cost to make a change.

The real question is what would it cost to not make a change? The Raiders will spend at least one more year in Oakland, and they’ll need to create enough excitement to get people to keep showing up. (Another year with Oakland native Marshawn Lynch may not be enough.) Beyond that, what buzz will this team take to wherever it will be in 2019 or to Las Vegas, whenever they get there?

Regardless of what happens with Del Rio, it’s believed to be a near certainty that offensive coordinator Todd Downing will be gone. Del Rio’s fate ultimately could turn on what he does in a pair of late-season games that, even with wins, may not be enough to get the team back to the playoffs.

59 responses to “Jack Del Rio has a 50-50 shot of not returning

  1. Per a league source, it’s currently a coin flip for Del Rio.
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    What source? I mean you guys always complain about being called fake news. Give us a name.

  2. Anyone who reads the analytics sites knows that the Raiders were due to regress this year as their margin of victory was consistently slim last year. Same as Carolina the year before. You’d think owners would so some of this research before awarding jobs and extensions.

  3. Please, keep him. Although no self respecting head coach would ever take the job. I guess it really doesn’t matter.

  4. A 50-50 shot of not returning can best be expressed with a shrug of the shoulders and a “heck if I know”.

  5. Only 32 NFL Head Coaching Jobs in the whole entire world. If you’re lucky or fortunate enough to get one you better hire the right coaches and coordinators.

    If I were head coach of that team I would have hired Norv Turner as OC and Wade Phillips as DC(I mean he knows, and gameplanned against AFC West Opponents for the past few years) last off season – Coordinators That have won Super Bowls…no way I’m trusting two first time Coordinators like Jack Del Rio did.

    I don’t understand these coaches….

  6. 49ersfury says:
    December 23, 2017 at 8:59 pm
    Only 32 NFL Head Coaching Jobs in the whole entire world. If you’re lucky or fortunate enough to get one you better hire the right coaches and coordinators.

    If I were head coach of that team I would have hired Norv Turner as OC and Wade Phillips as DC(I mean he knows, and gameplanned against AFC West Opponents for the past few years) last off season – Coordinators That have won Super Bowls…no way I’m trusting two first time Coordinators like Jack Del Rio did.

    I don’t understand these coaches…

    Guys who are insecure in their position do this. Phillips and Turner probably know a lot more about winning football games than Del Rio, which probably scares him too much to hire them, or others of that pedigree.

  7. Del Rio made some pretty ballsy calls last year with games on the line that turned out well for the Raiders. I don’t really see him as the problem at this point. Basically the Raiders record represents their talent on hand.

    Players like Amari Cooper appear now to have been overrated. Derek Carr has shown to be a very good quarterback when given plenty of time. This year he hasn’t had that and it’s showed. Which makes Carr over paid. Same with the offensive line. Which puts the Raiders situation more on the GM Reggie McKenzie than it does on Del Rio. And I do like some of the things McKenzie has done, tried to do here.

    So they might at well leave everything status quo until we see what happens next year.

  8. Michael E says:
    December 23, 2017 at 8:10 pm
    Per a league source, it’s currently a coin flip for Del Rio.
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    What source? I mean you guys always complain about being called fake news. Give us a name.

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    Its saying there are two possibilities. Hes gone or hes not gone. So its not fake news, they are right that it will be one of those two things.

  9. Don’t worry fader-nation. Lloyd Christmas and Reggie have things under control: Just like last year, and the year before, and the year before, and maybe the year before that one… Miss Billy Musgrave much?

  10. Some unnamed source you have.

    February 10, 2017

    Head coach Jack Del Rio has signed a four-year contract extension to remain with the Oakland Raiders, the team announced.

    “The Raiders have torn up Jack Del Rio’s original contract and rewarded him with a new four-year deal,” Raiders owner Mark Davis said in a statement. “We are excited to continue building on the strong foundation that has been established and this is a significant step in achieving that goal.”

    Del Rio led the Raiders to their first playoff appearance in 14 years with a 12-4 record on the season. The Raiders suffered a wild-card loss to the Houston Texans in the playoffs.

    Del Rio is 19–13 in his two seasons as head coach of the Raiders.

  11. Mckensi ,dowling need to go now keep del rio . Reggie made to many changes to a team that went 12 -4. He also sucks balls at drafting high picks all are losers except mack and carr who fell into his lap or public opinion forced the pic. He has a flare for drafting people who cannot stay or even be healthy they are light weights or worse sick bay cowboys. Trades are also not spectacular with Cook maybe being the best yet.

    Cooper the jury is out on his ability to be consistent. Lynch helped destroy the team chemistry with his gangsta attitude.Overall I think reggie is not a very good GM and we need a wade phillips as DC and now we need a real OC. DelRio should stay at HC the others need to go

  12. Wow……and just last summer Raiders’ fans were anointing themselves SB champs with Derek Carr winning the league MVP

  13. O I almost forgot. Reggie caved in to Penn and his hold out should have found another player. After all these years we still need a LB in the middle and a real corner

  14. Nothing like a hot rumor to keep the masses interested. Has to be coming from Mark himself. Does he think he can get Gruden? Or are we getting another Dennis Allen. To fire Del Rio now would be shear stupidity. The guy was in consideration for coach of the year after last season.

  15. 49ersfury says:
    December 23, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    Only 32 NFL Head Coaching Jobs in the whole entire world. If you’re lucky or fortunate enough to get one you better hire the right coaches and coordinators.

    If I were head coach of that team I would have hired Norv Turner as OC and Wade Phillips as DC…no way I’m trusting two first time Coordinators like Jack Del Rio did.

    I don’t understand these coaches…
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    Really? Are you sure you don’t understand? Maybe if you gave it a little more thought it would occur to you. Del Rio knows having Turner or Phillips for his coordinators would make it very easy for Davis to replace him.

  16. This would be a mistake if true. Del rio has changed the culture and turned a lame duck franchise into a winner. He deserves another year to get it right. Were Mistakes made? Yes. Musgrave should have stayed. KNJ should have gone last off-season. Raiders let a lot of their depth walk Holmes, t Jones, Howard, traywick, bates, Hayden, Williams Riley jr and this was a different ball club because of that.

  17. slick and nhpats cannot make it through the day without posting about the Raiders.

    Everyday.

    365.

    Obsess much?

    Silver and Black dancing in your kitchen.

    I love it.

  18. Should have never signed Marshawn Lynch. He brought Seattle’s immaturity to the Raiders locker room.

  19. Nobody cares. They are moving to Vegas and the Niners have always owned the Bay even the last three years when they
    were horrible. More people interested in Jimmy G at 4-10 than Raider going for playoffs. FACT!

  20. every smart Raider fan knew that Del Rio was a hack and the only reason for the success last year was bc of Musgrave and Derek. Del Rio’s defense continued to stink and Downing has been a deer in headlights rookie OC. JDR fired Musgrave bc he has a big ego and didnt like him getting credit for the winning season. Derek has regressed big time without Downing as his full time qb coach and Musgrave calling plays, plus he got hurt. Del Rio dug his own grave. Raiders will lose out and Jack will be gone (assuming Mark can afford it)

  21. Del Rio should be gone next year. He’s taken this team as far as he going to. He had a couple of good years in Jacksonville before the players tuned him out amongst the bad play calls, questionable time management , failure to enforce discipline and the inability to protect the franchise QB from being destroyed. You don’t want him as the coach going to a new market. Del Rio is a three year head coach that will toughen the team up, but cannot get the players to the next level.

  22. Listen this what Mark Davis need to do….fire Reggie n Del Rio…hire a proven GM…hire Jim Schwartz as HC…hire Vic Fangio as DC n hire either Norv Turner OC or bring back Bill Musgrave as OC n demote Todd Dowling back to QB coach…remember Carr n the offense finish 6th in offense with Musgrave n Dowling n Combination…only if u can’t get Norv Turner…I should be the dam GM

  23. “Its saying there are two possibilities. Hes gone or hes not gone.”

    Or maybe it’s a Schrodinger’s Coach type of deal where he is both gone and not gone.

  24. Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie has to power to fire Del Rio. Don’t blame the owner. Unlike his father Al, he does not micromanage the team. After last season, the Raiders lost a few players, including LB Malcolm Smith. Khalil Mack has not had as good a season as he did last year. Derek Carr and his receivers have not had as good a season either. So, you can either blame the coach or the GM. The GM is not going to blame himself. However, if he fires Del Rio, he may not find a better coach. His own job oould be in jeopardy if the Raiders keep losing.

    A drop in attendance in Oakland does not make much difference, because they are leaving town. If they go into Vegas as a mediocre team, even a new stadium may not be good enough to attract a lot of fans, because there is so much to do in Vegas. It is worse than being in LA, because there is more to do in Vegas than in LA. On Friday nights, the traffic from LA to Vegas is horrendous because many people go straight to Vegas from LA after work.

    The reason it is 50-50 is that if Del Rio is fired, and the team gets worse, the GM may be fired. Therefore the GM has to make sure that getting rid of Del Rio will turn things around before he does it.

  25. Firing Del Rio after this year would be rather shortsighted. And a decision like that would make me think that McKenzie is worried about his job more than Del Rio’s.

  26. Hollywood Jack will be heartbroken if he doesn’t make it to Vegas as HC. He is dreaming of it- think of the photo ops…Hollywood Jack, the Riverboat Gambler, staring dreamily off into space as the press discusses his going for it on 4th and 2 from his own 3 yard line.

  27. In situations like this, there’s only 1 thing to do..bring a tree stump and ax into the locker room and allow the guys to “keep choppin wood” as a good motivational tool.

  28. mullman76 says:
    December 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm
    slick and nhpats cannot make it through the day without posting about the Raiders.

    Everyday.

    365.

    Obsess much?

    Silver and Black dancing in your kitchen.

    I love it.

    ———-

    Here we have one of the guys who had the Raiders in the SB. He is probably still celebrating paying a guy with zero playoff wins $25M a year and wondering why his team underperforms

  29. For the Raiders to achieve long-term success, they need a change in the ownership. Son-of-Al is among the worst owners in the league.

  30. Depending on who is really making the personnel decisions in Oakland (Davis or his staff), McKenzie and his twin Raleigh need to go. I realize he’s signed through 2020, but he hasn’t made signigicant improvements which matter. While he inherited a mess, what improvement has been attributed to him? He drafted Mack and Carr in 2014. He drafted Cooper. Okay, what else? He signed Lynch (or did Davis) which was simply a desperate move when he could have kept Murray and played Richard more. Lynch with all his unfocused play (don’t get me wrong he’s run strong on most plays), anthem sitting and not talking to the media just created an air of incompetence around McKenzie (as Seatle moved its former problem south and it became magnified with the players kneeling). Marshall Newhouse was a known turnstile, yet he’s supposed to protect the QB and run block? That was the hope? Replacing Donald Penn and Austin Howard should have been the draft focus (or to resign them early) instead of drafting Conley (who he could have had in the 3rd round) and Melifonwu in the 2nd round who together have combined to play 7 games.

    The Davis family is big on loyalty, but sometimes a team must move on.

  31. nhpats says:
    December 24, 2017 at 8:47 am

    mullman76 says:
    December 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm
    slick and nhpats cannot make it through the day without posting about the Raiders.

    Everyday.

    365.

    Obsess much?

    Silver and Black dancing in your kitchen.

    I love it.

    ———-

    Here we have one of the guys who had the Raiders in the SB. He is probably still celebrating paying a guy with zero playoff wins $25M a year and wondering why his team underperforms

    ———-

    Because the lack of cap space is totally what caused their struggles. Gotcha.

    The pats will always be number 1 in my heart as the most racist region in all of sports aka boston/NE.

  32. I would only replace Del Rio if you can get someone better. Part of the reason the Raiders were so bad for so long was the revolving door on the coaches office. Definitely need a new OC. DC Pagano has done well with the defense with the players he has to work with. Raiders got every bounce in 2016 and were probably in actuality somewhere between last year’s team and this year’s team without all magic or luck they had going for them in 2016 as far as their W/L record should be.

  33. Carr didn’t kneel when the rest of the team did in about the 3rd game of the season. Then his teammates dropped his passes, didn’t block, etc.
    Watch the tape.

  34. @nhpats: Pull up a post where I claimed the Raiders were going to the SB, just one.

    I would think a new OC, the inability to cover a WR or TE and the stone handed receivers were mostly to blame for the Raiders troubles.

    But, whatever helps you sleep at night.

    That is all.

    RAIDER NATION

  35. So JDR was a good coach last year and now he’s not?
    C’mon… the talent regressed.
    And I’m pretty sure the Raiders lead the league in dropped passes with 3 receiving options having a total of like 25 drops on the season.
    Cooper isn’t the playmaker he was sold to be. Crabtree is another year older. Lynch was good not great, and the OL didn’t block in run or pass as well as the year prior.

    JDR deserves another year imo. And should they falter again, start fresh in new city with new faces.
    GM probably deserves some criticism.

  36. Ky Li says:

    December 26, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    So JDR was a good coach last year and now he’s not?
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    Who said he was a good coach last year? The team needs a good coordinator on offense. They trusted the development of the offense to a rookie coach and he was terrible at it. That was the killer of the season. The defense was bad but we expected that. What wasn’t expected was the offense to go in the can. That is on the coordinator and the guy who made the decision to trust him with the keys to the offense. Reggie and JDR. JDR should be fired. Hire some proven commodities. Wade Phillips (Head Coach) Hugh Jackson Offensive Coordinator and whoever Wade wants to teach. Done deal. Draft someone to actually cover a WR (you have one )Conley) and a LB to cover a TE and then… draft some receivers who can actually catch a football.

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