Bill Polian’s take on Nick Foles gives the lie to his past claims about Tom Brady

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Bill Polian is a Hall of Fame General Manager, but as an ESPN analyst he’s struggling to get his stories straight.

Polian says the Eagles should turn down anything but a monster trade offer for backup quarterback Nick Foles. According to Polian, a reliable backup like Foles is so valuable that the Eagles shouldn’t even listen to a trade offer of anything less than two first-round picks and two second-round picks.

So we’re all clear on this: Polian thinks a backup quarterback is an incredibly valuable asset to a football team. He would never pass up a chance to pair a good backup like Foles with a good starter like Carson Wentz.

Except that’s exactly what Polian has previously claimed he did.

Polian has said in the past that in the 2000 NFL draft, when he was General Manager of the Colts, he had a first-round grade on Tom Brady. So why, when Polian had a first-round grade on Brady, did he pass on Brady multiple times? After all, in the fifth round, when Brady was sitting there with a first-round grade (supposedly) on the Colts’ draft board, Polian instead took an offensive lineman named Matt Johnson, who never played a down.

The answer, according to Polian, is that the Colts already had Peyton Manning, and therefore they didn’t need to draft a quarterback. But that’s preposterous in light of what Polian says about Foles. If backup quarterbacks are so vital to an organization that Polian would value Foles at two firsts and two seconds, then why on earth wouldn’t Polian have used a fifth-round pick to draft Brady as Manning’s backup?

Polian drafted backup quarterback Jim Sorgi in 2004 when Peyton Manning was the reigning league MVP, so it’s not that Polian wasn’t willing to draft a quarterback while he had Manning on the roster. So why did Polian pass on Brady?

The honest answer is that Polian is full of it when he claims he had a first-round grade on Brady, and he’s simultaneously offering up a ridiculous opinion when he suggests the Eagles should hang up if someone calls to offer them two first-round picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick for Foles.

At this time of year, when the draft, free agency and trades are the talk of the NFL, a Hall of Fame G.M. like Polian should be offering valuable insight in his job as an NFL analyst. Unfortunately, he’s not.

133 responses to “Bill Polian’s take on Nick Foles gives the lie to his past claims about Tom Brady

  1. How can this guy be in the hall of fame. Yes the bills went to super bowls in a now salary cap era. He got one of the greatest to play in Manning and won 1 super bowl.

    Another reason ESPN should stick to college basketball and rowing

  2. i love that you eviscerated polian here. also, one first should be enough to get foles out of philly. remember the 3 games to end the season? foles was not exactly lighting it up. no denying how well he played in the playoffs, but at the end of the day, it is nick foles

  3. Agreed. And to even throw out that trade package id ridiculous for a guy who was awesome for two games in the playoffs and his first season as a starter, but who has struggled plenty of other times.

  4. Is this another cue for Pats fans to start talking about; drug riddled owner, banners, deflation, curses, and whatever other banter coming out of them you’re fishing for? (roll eyes)…

  5. Good article. Also, no team is giving up two 1’s and two 2’s for Foles. Being that Foles walks after this season the Eagles should trade him, but they arent getting that haul in return…his last name is Foles, not Unitas.

  6. Bill Polian was NEVER wrong on ANY personnel decisions. Just ask him. He is the king of revisionist history.

    One Superbowl victory with arguably the first or second best QB in history?

    Go away Bill. Your 15 minutes of fame is long gone….

  7. UHHHH, maybe because back then the running game was more prominent and figured into things much more than the current pass-happy appease the average ADD American sports fan.

    Back then RBs still figured in as the key to balance and offensive success in large measure. Since then there have been numerous rules changes that have appeased the non-purist football fans insistent on seeing one big play after another.

    Just sayin’.

  8. if you really want to see polian in full scale denial and trapped in his circular reasoning, ask him what it was like trying to compete against belichick – the greatest gm/ coach of all time.

  9. Fact is nobody had first round grade on brady. Full believer that without belecheat, brady wouldn’t be any more of a qb than rich gannon.
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    Was BB out there winning an MVP or throwing for 505 yards in the SB at 40 years old? Was BB on the field for the 28-3 4th quarter comeback? Was BB in the huddle for an epic 4th quarter comeback against Seattle?

    This is the most ridiculous argument that still gets put out there by those that refuse to admit that Brady is the GOAT. Its a tired argument. Players play and coaches coach.

  10. .
    Belichick had a different take on Brady the rookie. He didn’t want to put the 6’4″ 180lb stick figure on the field for fear he’d get killed. Coming out of Michigan he was hardly a first rounder.
    .

  11. In just 4 seasons, Elway with Manning managed to match Polian’s 12 seasons SB record with Manning in his prime. Both Elway and Polian’s Manning teams went 1-1 in the SB. That says a lot about Polian.

  12. thudsp says:
    February 20, 2018 at 8:59 am
    Bag of wind. If you have a Hall Of Fame QB on your team and only win one Super Bowl you are a failure.

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    His feeble Bills teams once lost 4 SBS in a row, too. No wonder why he’s like this.

  13. I’m not a Polian fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I think we can allow people to evolve their opinions over the course of 17-18 years. At least I hope so. I’m sure Belichick’s philosophies are tweaked yearly

  14. The honest answer is that Polian is full of it when he claims he had a first-round grade on Brady, and he’s simultaneously offering up a ridiculous opinion when he suggests the Eagles should hang up if someone calls to offer them two first-round picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick for Foles.

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    this is the key part of the article

  15. Bill Polian also said yesterday that Lamar Jackson ( 6’2) is too short to play in the NFL. Baker Mayfield is barely over 6′.Polian is mailing it in on ESPN. Time for the glue factory where all old Colts go.

  16. I’d trade Foles if given a 1st round pick but they are likely looking at maybe a 2nd round pick offer at best. Foles did great in the playoffs and back in 2013, but has average at best other than that. Add in that he’ll be a free agent after next year and a bit older than a QB that you’d want to start building a team around. He is a guy that you’d bring in to fill the gap until you can draft and develop a franchise QB.

    He has greater value as a backup for the Eagles right now than what they’d get in return. But hey, I’m not Bill Polian so I must not know what I’m talking about.

  17. I don’t think anyone in the league has ever believed that he had a first-round grade on Tom Brady in 2000.

    Anyone who has seen Brady’s combine performance knows Polian is full of crap.

  18. Polian was over rated as a GM and being a HOf’er not sure how that happened. He brings nothing to the TV shows hw appears.

  19. Bill Pollian only won 1 super bowl with Peyton Manning…..Get off my lawn.

    He brought in Tony Dungy who had nothing to do with the Offense. And they still only won one super bowl.

    Pollian is totally over-rated.

  20. UHHHH, maybe because back then the running game was more prominent and figured into things much more than the current pass-happy appease the average ADD American sports fan.

    Back then RBs still figured in as the key to balance and offensive success in large measure. Since then there have been numerous rules changes that have appeased the non-purist football fans insistent on seeing one big play after another.

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    I’m drawing a blank right now, but which former NFL GM and Competition Committee member pushed hard in the mid-2000s to emphasize illegal contact and PI, thus making the league more “pass happy” and minimizing the running game?

  21. I’m not sure Polian’s elevator goes all the way to the top floor anymore, if you know what I’m saying. Not sure how much time we should be wasting parsing his words.

  22. Least qualified HOF enshrinee ever. Years of Jim Kelly and Peyton Manning, and he only has one SB to show for it.

  23. This post overlooks the possibility of Mr. Polian changing his attitude toward backup quarterbacks between 2000 and 2004, and then beyond. Mr. Polian was lucky to have a mostly healthy Peyton Manning for his time with the Colts; surely, though, he must have taken note of how many teams’ seasons or playoff chances whither to nothing when the starting quarterback goes down.

  24. tylawspick6 says:
    February 20, 2018 at 9:07 am
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    His feeble Bills teams once lost 4 SBS in a row
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    There is nothing feeble about playing in four straight Super Bowls, even in a losing cause.

    But, yeah, Polian’s commentary on Foles and Brady is almost as absurd as Dungy’s commentary on Brady.

  25. Polian didn’t have a first round grade on Brady and nobody in their right mind did unless they used a time machine into the future.

  26. John McVay has 5 super bowl rings as GM of the great 49ers teams of the 80’s and 90’s. His name never gets mentioned for the HOF. Polian has one ring. He’s in the HOF. I don’t blame Polian one bit. It’s the voters who don’t have a clue about football.

  27. Not only does this windbag only have 1 SB to show for his years with the Colts, but that one came against arguably the worst team to ever make the SB in the Bears, with Rex Grossman at QB…yes, THAT Rex Grossman.

  28. As an Eagles fan, I appreciate what Foles did and I think he can be a very good starting quarterback in this league. He proved it 3 years ago and he proved it this year. But the fact remains, he’s a free agent after next year and, as much as he likes it in Philly, will not resign to be Wentz’s backup. I would take a 2nd & 3rd round pick for him in a heartbeat to recoup the picks we traded away. All indications are that Wentz is ahead of schedule in his rehab and will be ready to start the season. But even if he’s not, Foles value will never be higher. I think it would be silly to lose out on a 2nd & 3rd rounder for someone who “might” start another game or two and then walk at the end of the season.

  29. Foles is a back up for a reason. The hype on him is crazy. He had a decent run. If it wasn’t for a trick play and a bad TD call, would people put so much attention on him?

    Foles is a good back up. A 1st round pick is too high for him. Two third rounders, maybe a mid to low second would be good enough to pry him away.

    But the Eagles need to know there starter can come back before they can let the back up go.

  30. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    February 20, 2018 at 9:06 am
    In just 4 seasons, Elway with Manning managed to match Polian’s 12 seasons SB record with Manning in his prime. Both Elway and Polian’s Manning teams went 1-1 in the SB. That says a lot about Polian.

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    What does it say about a guy when he is a fan of the Jets and yet pretends to be a Patriots fan?

  31. The ultimate Monday Morning QB! His revisionist history take on football should come as no surprise and his constant need to insert himself into modern day football analysis is laughable.

  32. he always struck me as someone who loves to talk just to hear himself speak, doesn’t care what he says as long as he gets to talk.

  33. After a long season, every natural turf field needs to be fertilized so it will be ready for the upcoming year.

    Special thanks to Mr. Polian for providing an early dose of organic matter – a plentiful helping that seems more than enough to cover multiple fields.

    Polian is asking for picks. The rest of us are in need of shovels.

  34. Polian in all likelihood is lying about his grade on Brady.

    But this is not really the DNA evidence the author makes out. There is a difference between a SB defending team keeping the backup who won the big game and knows the system unless they get a monster offer, from a still up and coming team adding a second QB who they like as a prospect but have no starting job for, and who is a projection.

    The Colts already had a veteran backup, as well, who their QB coach liked enough to take him with him to Cleveland.

    Saying you had the first round grade is still the ultimate freebie.

  35. To be honest I have to admit that when he was coming out of college I didn’t have a high grade on Brady — geez, his combine picture looks like an unwitting audition for a snuff film — only because I had no idea he would be so adept at cheating in so many, many, different ways. Explain to me again how he went from zero to hero? Pair him up with Belicheat and the sky is the limit.

  36. I don’t listen to Bill Polian commentary much due to turning the channel when he’s commenting.
    His examples and stories are like old cliches. They just don’t resonate anymore. I hope ESPN
    gives him a nice going away party. He seems like a good guy trying to be relevant.

  37. Shots fired …Polian will be forced to respond. Expect a lot of future negative press from him re this site. IMHO every site eventually contradicts itself. Trying to yap about the NFL for t hours a day you’re bound to.
    I don’t think there’s a need to sling mud in this business…but the mud is in the air now.

  38. The difference is the situation is different then when he was in Indy.

    Nobody knows if Carson Wentz is going to make it all the way back from this injury. Nobody knows. Peyton Manning was healthy and their was no question of who was the starter in Indy.

    There is a question in Philly of who is the starter; weather management wants to say it or not. So…If you want Foles, you are going to have to pay a lot.

    What Polian says makes perfect sense if you know the intricacies of football.

  39. Did he invest in Berkshire Hathaway when it was $10 per share? Or IBM? Or Microsoft? No?

    Then we can probably discount the idea that he had a 1st rd draft grade on the greatest system QB of all time.

  40. 56 4 Rate This
    haughville says:
    February 20, 2018 at 8:49 am
    Is this another cue for Pats fans to start talking about; drug riddled owner, banners, deflation, curses, and whatever other banter coming out of them you’re fishing for? (roll eyes)…

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    Why does any of that stuff matter? The Colts arent a threat to anyone so no need to focus on whats happening over there.

  41. I hated those Bills, but they really were pretty good.

    If the cigarette smoking man from X Files hadn’t put the kibosh on them, they might have won one of those Super Bowls.

  42. Is Bill Polian still a HOF GM if he doesn’t get lucky and have the #1 pick in the Peyton Manning Draft?

    He should be sending Peyton a check every month for life….

  43. Edukator- I sort of agree, the other side is that Nick Foles did something that a very low number of nfl quarterbacks have done and he did it in impressive style. The start of the season can be chalked up to him not having played a game in over a year, he didn’t even play in preseason because he was hurt. One could argue, look what he can do when he has weapons and time to get on the same page as the offense

  44. Doesn’t the guy have the right to change his mind in nearly 20 years? Seriously, the ESPN bashing on here is childish.

  45. jjackwagon says:
    February 20, 2018 at 10:30 am
    Did he invest in Berkshire Hathaway when it was $10 per share? Or IBM? Or Microsoft? No?
    Then we can probably discount the idea that he had a 1st rd draft grade on the greatest system QB of all time.

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    Yeah… that’s true. I guess the Patriots system is for the defense make sure they are losing in the 4th quarter and then just give the ball to Brady and hope for the best.

  46. citizenstrange says:
    February 20, 2018 at 10:18 am
    To be honest I have to admit that when he was coming out of college I didn’t have a high grade on Brady — geez, his combine picture looks like an unwitting audition for a snuff film — only because I had no idea he would be so adept at cheating in so many, many, different ways. Explain to me again how he went from zero to hero? Pair him up with Belicheat and the sky is the limit.

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    Yes, yes….this is a very well thought out deduction. The insane amount of “invisible” cheating theory, which of course, magically makes you a really skilled NFL quarterback. Holy smokes…

    Please tell me you’re either 7 years old or an adult who’se properly supervised so as not to walk into oncoming traffic every day. These are the only explanations for this narrative that I’m buying.

  47. Even if Polian had a 1st round grade on Brady the fact that he continued to pass on Brady is an indictment of failure on his drafting skills unless all the players he drafted also had a 1st round grade too then it’s his evaluation skills that were/are horrible. No matter how you look at there’s no positive in Polians hindsight.

  48. seahawkboymike says:
    February 20, 2018 at 9:59 am
    The guy traded Marshall Faulk in his prime for a 2nd and a 5th. Him being in the Hall is almost as big a joke as Tony Dungy, Harry Carson and Curtis Martin.

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    The Colts won a Super Bowl and went to 2 and won the division nearly every year, so that trade didn’t exactly cost them. Faulk was pretty much done after 2001 despite playing 4 more years. Edgerrin James out rushed him every year from 2002 to 2005… and it wasn’t even close.

  49. I came to a similar conclusion independently weeks ago as this HOF general manager regarding Foles. A good backup QB is absolutely vital to a team trying to reach the Super Bowl, and the 49ers had some good ones backing up Joe Montana in the 1980s. The Patriots also benefited in 2016, when they had Jimmy G. winning 2 games while Tom Brady was suspended. Nowadays, the salary cap situation and the inflated market for quarterbacks make it hard to have a good backup QB.

    The Eagles should indeed resist trading Foles until they are sure that Carson Wentz is ready for the season opener. Even then trading Foles give them minimum benefits, saving them only about 7 million in cap space, and the risks are high because they may miss the playoffs altogether if Wentz is not ready to start the season and they have to start their current third string quarterback or if they have to sign one or draft one. If they lose Foles to free agency and get nothing for him, but they are able to win another Super Bowl with him, then the tradeoff is well worth it. In contrast, what good is a first round pick if they lose the chance for a SB win because they do not have Foles.

  50. Here is all you need to know about Bill Polian. In an ESPN interview in December when discussing the success the Eagles were having without Jason Peters at left tackle, his reasoning for that success was because there was a seamless transition of Lane Johnson to left tackle. A transition that has never happened.

  51. The Eagles drafted Foles years before Wentz arrived so the scenarios are not the same .
    What is the value of a super bowl winning QB under the age of 30 ?
    One , who has proven that he is clutch in the playoffs.

  52. – Polian didn’t pick Jim Kelly for the Bills
    – Polian drafted Kerry Collins 5th overall for the Panthers
    – Polian was handed Manning on a silver platter for the Colts

    Polian’s record with QBs is thin a best

  53. Polian’s signature on his NFL career will be having whined so loud and long about the mean ol’ Patriot secondary beating up his receivers that the league changed the rules and started it down the horribly soft road its been on ever since.

    Which ignored the fact the Colt’s secondary was doing the same thing to the Pats receivers, who somehow managed to make enough catches to win, and the fact that every other secondary in the league was doing the same thing as well at that time.

  54. edukator4 says:

    February 20, 2018 at 8:40 am

    i love that you eviscerated polian here. also, one first should be enough to get foles out of philly. remember the 3 games to end the season? foles was not exactly lighting it up. no denying how well he played in the playoffs, but at the end of the day, it is nick foles

    First off the Giants game he was great. The Oakland game was acclimating to game day action and coming out of the clouds. The dallas game shouldn’t even be included as that game was a game of (don’t get injured), (stay loose), (get some plays in and stay fresh).

    That being said I am not saying he is worth anywhere near what Polin is spewing. But he is definitely worth at least a 3rd and a 4th of this year and a conditional 3rd/4th the following year depending on games played and certain stats that could elevate that pick to maybe a 2nd/3rd in 2019.

  55. haughville says:
    February 20, 2018 at 8:49 am
    Is this another cue for Pats fans to start talking about; drug riddled owner, banners, deflation, curses, and whatever other banter coming out of them you’re fishing for? (roll eyes)…

    No, it’s a cue for someone to make comments about Pats fans queueing up, which only happens in your mind. You and the 3,2,1 guy.

  56. The Eagles would be FOOLISH to let Nick Foles go for anything UNTIL they find out that Carson Wentz is healthy and CAN play this upcoming season. I’m SURE they don’t want to go through what the Colts are dealing with, when they THOUGHT Andrew Luck was ready to play last season but found out the hard way, he wasn’t.

  57. Blame ESPN for giving this turkey a microphone, I don’t blame Polian for wanting a good paying job where he sits around a table with a few morons and blabs about football. He is not much worse than most of their other staff, which doesn’t say much.

    Do people even watch ESPN anymore? Asking for a friend…

  58. Maybe he actually had a 1st round grade on Kyle Brady, the tight end, when he came out and he’s mixed it up in his mind to make himself sound better. He never valued back-up quarterbacks. Otherwise he never would have depended on Jim Sorgi for so long and been stuck with Curtis Painter, when Manning did finally get hurt.

  59. I’d be curious what the contradictory Polian had to say about Jimmy Garoppolo before and after he was traded for a 2nd Rd pick, if the thinks a quality backup is worth 2 firsts and 2 seconds.

  60. “I’m not a Polian fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I think we can allow people to evolve their opinions over the course of 17-18 years. At least I hope so. I’m sure Belichick’s philosophies are tweaked yearly.”

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    Haha! That’s RICH. I just discovered a cute, new euphemism for LYING…”evolving one’s opinion”. Lol. You must be a lawyer…a bad one.

  61. I mean, this is a pointed piece at a guy whose opinion isn’t valued on a network where opinions aren’t valued…

    At this point, it’s just kicking people when they are down, no?

  62. “His feeble Bills teams once lost 4 SBS in a row, too.”
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    Sorry, this is total BS. It’s a unique and impressive accomplishment to get to 4 straight SBs. One that has eluded your Pats under Brady, for example despite having supposedly the greatest QB and coach and laying in a weak division. We can always count on you for silly homerism.

  63. Polian also said Lamar Jackson at 6’3″ is too short though he’s all-in on Baker Mayfield who is barely 6’0″ and was crazy about Johnny Manziel.

  64. Considering he pretty much was the reason why the Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row and he only got Peyton 1 ring even with the stacked teams he was on he may want to just stay quiet now. Why is this guy even in the Hall of Fame again?

  65. As a Bills fan I will always have a place in my sports heart for him. He did in fact build Buffalo to what they were, say what you will about Super Bowls.

    As far as Indy goes, all he had to do was not draft Ryan Leaf and take Manning. ( I’m assuming he was there for that 98 draft ). He drafted some decent guys with Indy but most of there success had to be attributed to Manning. He was sloppy with his defenses. It was Mathis and Freeney then rotate players year in and year out. He didn’t do a very good job of that.
    If he did have a 1st round grade on Brady ( if ever there was a textbook definition of hindsight being 20/20, Brady is it ), which I doubt, the smart play would have been to draft him and develop him for 2-3 years and try to trade him. Nope, the reality is that nobody, not even NE had a high, or draftable grade on Brady. Everyone else missed out on NE’s luck and although you hate to give too much credit for them taking him in round 6 but I will give them some credit because nobody clearly wanted him.

    And for Polian, as someone mentioned above, the league has passed him by many years ago, and for anyone to think foles is worth what he said, he’s xrazy too. I woukd think he could be had for a 2nd, or a second this year and a 3rd next year.

  66. I’m not sold on Wentz yet, that’s why this situation differs from Brady and Manning.

    As for Lamar Turnover Jackson’s situation, you all know that Polian can’t say the real reason why he should be a WR. He doesn’t want to get fired from his cushy ESPN job. Jackson has talent but no brains and will be a disaster in the NFL at QB. He should probably be a RB since he can only go through one progression before running anyway.

  67. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 20, 2018 at 9:04 am
    Fact is nobody had first round grade on brady. Full believer that without belecheat, brady wouldn’t be any more of a qb than rich gannon.
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    Was BB out there winning an MVP or throwing for 505 yards in the SB at 40 years old? Was BB on the field for the 28-3 4th quarter comeback? Was BB in the huddle for an epic 4th quarter comeback against Seattle?

    This is the most ridiculous argument that still gets put out there by those that refuse to admit that Brady is the GOAT. Its a tired argument. Players play and coaches coach.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
    What about the super bowls the patriots actually won? How was Brady stats then?

  68. ampats says:
    February 20, 2018 at 9:11 am
    Bill Polian also said yesterday that Lamar Jackson ( 6’2) is too short to play in the NFL. Baker Mayfield is barely over 6′.Polian is mailing it in on ESPN. Time for the glue factory where all old Colts go.
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    And Drew Brees is actually 5′ 11″, maybe 5′ 10 & 1/2″. Keep talking, Bill. No one is listening.

  69. Was BB out there winning an MVP or throwing for 505 yards in the SB at 40 years old? Was BB on the field for the 28-3 4th quarter comeback? Was BB in the huddle for an epic 4th quarter comeback against Seattle?

    1) refs didn’t call any penalties in this SB. Anyone could have thrown for that yardage. By your logic, Foles is just as good as Brady.

    2) Was Brady on the field when the Falcons were snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock? People just don’t want to admit that the Falcons lost the game, Brady had little to do with it.

    3) Seattle game was a classic NFL lucky comeback. Luckbacks happen multiple times each week in NFL.
    So by that logic the average NFL QB does what Brady did. Drew Brees purposefully gets down early so that he can chew up Prevent defenses.
    Brady is doing the same lately.

    And was Brady on the field when Carroll refused to let his team score a TD? Again, people just don’t want to admit that the Seahawks lost the game, Brady had little to do with it.

  70. The Eagles are very lucky to have Foles under contract for 2018 because Wentz returning for week 1 in top shape should not be taken for granted. He tore both ACL and LCL ligaments and typicaly multiple tears injuries are longer to recover and get back at full strength & flexibility….

  71. First off:

    Foles isn’t getting two #1s and #2s.

    Second:

    NO ONE HAD A FIRST ROUND GRADE ON TOM BRADY! Lets be honest it was more probable then not he would have been out of the league with 0 career starts. Brady for how great he is ended up in the perfect scenario and capitalized on it.

    I’m shocked Bill didn’t say that he also had a first overall grade on Antonio Brown.

  72. Polian is an idiot. Who has ever given up two firsts and two seconds for anyone? Nick Foles did a nice job but get real Polian. What an idiot.

  73. ahummler72 says:
    February 20, 2018 at 8:49 am
    Foles is a legend. Leave him out of this! Super Bowl MVP! Deserves a king ransom! Bend the knee.

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    Even a blind squirrel will find a nut now and then.

  74. Ok so if I am getting my vision acuity values correct…most people have 20-20 hindsight, Bill’s must be like 20-10 or better.

    It is really easy being correct…after the fact

  75. Wow, you’re really stretching here. Going back almost 20 years to slam someone you don’t like. The league has changed A LOT since 2000. Isn’t Polian allowed to change his thinking? Backup QB’s weren’t nearly as important back then.

    Plus Wentz is coming off an ACL tear, no one knows if he’ll be healthy for week 1 next year. Having an established backup like Foles makes perfect sense for the Eagles. Using a draft pick on a QB to be Peyton’s backup when he was 2 years into his career and fully healthy didn’t make sense…

  76. The best thing he ever did for the Colts had nothing to do with talent evaluation, he influenced the rules committee to strengthen and enforce contact on WR’s

  77. I’d cut Polian some slack. When my late dad got into his doddering older age, he was inclined to remember things differently than they were, got crotchety when corrected and was adamant his opinions were right. He also lost all inhibitions to say some really stupid things. But in his prime, he was quite skilled and respected in a facet of film production for many years and deserved to be cut some slack. Polian is now at about the same age of diminished mental capacity and should really not be taken too seriously anymore.

  78. It’s too bad the Colts or any other team didn’t end up drafting Brady. Because if that happened, no one would even know his name right now…

  79. Nobody would give up one first round pick for a backup who happen to catch lightning in a bottle for a few weeks. Pipe dream Bill to think 2 and 2 starts the conversation……the gang here is right the games has (apparently) passed you by, as you sound more like Al Davis in his later years lately.

  80. I’ve never seen a more ridiculous display of idiocy than the stream of comments on this page… not to mention the moronic article above.

    First, Polian’s rep was established long before his tenure with the Colts. He started by putting together two Grey Cup wuinning teams in the CFL. He later helped construct a Buffalo Bills team that went to FOUR CONSECUTIVE SUPERBOWLS.

    He had success with his stint at the Panthers before ended up with the Colts.

    The fact that he drafted a lineman instead of Brady is moot. He was building a team and had a QB who turned out to be pretty decent. The way the idiot ranters here are talking, everyone should have realized that Brady was the GOAT and Manning was an “also ran.”

    It’s obvious there’s a lot of jealousy here because the Eagles are the new dynasty that toppled the old one, and did it with a back-up QB in the most dramatic fashion.

    Suck on that, haters.

  81. scoocha says:
    February 20, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    1) …anyone could have thrown for that yardage. By your logic, Foles is just as good as Brady.

    2) Was Brady on the field when the Falcons were snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the clock? … Brady had little to do with it.

    3) Seattle game was a classic NFL lucky comeback. …

    Brady had little to do with it.

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    Seriously? Seriously?

    15 of the last 17 AFCE titles, 7 of the last AFCCG, 5 of 8 superbowls, the ONLY player from the 2000 draft still with his team, and he had “little to do with it?”

    Ask Tony Romo or any NFL quarterback or player if Brady “had little to do with it”

    I am impressed with your comment, truly impressed.

  82. A King’s Ransom could be made for trading CARSON WENTZ who is now “damaged goods” like Sam Bradford, Teddy Bridgewater et al.

    Did you know… that Nick Foles had five (5) rushing attempts for -2 yards in the January 13, 2018 game versus Atlanta… with zero (0) TDs… and the Eagles still won? lol

  83. raiderdave31 says:

    February 20, 2018 at 8:54 am

    Fact is nobody had first round grade on brady. Full believer that without belecheat, brady wouldn’t be any more of a qb than rich gannon.

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    Too bad Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC without Brady starting.

  84. But last summer pats fan thought they were getting the same value, two firsts and two seconds, for jimmy g

    No, we were hoping like hell Bill would keep him as long as he could, and he did.

  85. Virago44 says:
    February 20, 2018 at 10:55 am
    Here is all you need to know about Bill Polian. In an ESPN interview in December when discussing the success the Eagles were having without Jason Peters at left tackle, his reasoning for that success was because there was a seamless transition of Lane Johnson to left tackle. A transition that has never happened.
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    Along those lines, there was an amazing televised flip-flop by Polian in 2014. He was on SportsCenter and was asked about the report of the Ray Rice elevator tape being received at NFL headquarters and the possibility that Goodell did not see it. Polian said it was extremely unlikely that the situation could play out that way and went on about how the NFL offices were so far above “normal” corporations in terms of integrity and attention to detail. In short, it was almost impossible for him to believe that the commissioner did not see that tape.

    There were technical difficulties that cut that segment with Polian short, so he returned on the next SportsCenter about 20 minutes later to answer the same question. His response this time, though, was a 180 degree reversal from his previous response. He now believed that the NFL offices were a large bureaucracy, it’s easy to imagine that the Rice tape fell through the cracks and Goodell never saw it.

    The same SC host asked Polian the same question 20 minutes apart, received 2 contradictory answers and everyone acted like this was totally normal.

  86. mojo guzzi says:
    February 20, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    ….It’s obvious there’s a lot of jealousy here because the Eagles are the new dynasty that toppled the old one,…

    Dynasty? Dude they’ve
    won one Super Bowl!

  87. I believe I heard Polian say on the radio the other day that he knew after the Eagles’ first preseason game that they were the best team in the NFL. I don’t know that I believe that, either.

    Fact is, Foles and the Eagles offense started clicking (to a very high degree) at just the right time. If Foles went to another team his success would be entirely dependent on whether his new team catered their scheme to his abilities.

    The Eagles say their offense is “run/pass option” – which may be true. But Foles is not a runner, so it’s really just play action – and that works well if the run game is clicking. He made some great throws down the stretch and not many mistakes. I don’t know that I’d bank on him as the future of my franchise.

    Because absolutely NO ONE was fired up about Foles when Wentz got hurt – everyone was saying the Eagles were done.

  88. 6ball says:

    February 20, 2018 at 9:05 am

    .
    Belichick had a different take on Brady the rookie. He didn’t want to put the 6’4″ 180lb stick figure on the field for fear he’d get killed. Coming out of Michigan he was hardly a first rounder.
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    For you and all those saying Pats didn’t have a first round grade on Brady, okay but… BB’s take on Brady the rookie underwent quite a change between draft day and the end of training camp, this is proven by the fact that Pats carried 4 QBs on the active roster in 2000 season because they didn’t want to risk losing Brady if they put him on the practice squad. Proof positive that by the end of training camp they had more than a slight clue of his potential for greatness.

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