Kirk Cousins may be too rich for the Cardinals’ blood

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The Cardinals need a new quarterback after the retirement of Carson Palmer. But Kirk Cousins will probably not be that quarterback.

The money Cousins will command is likely too much for the Cardinals, according to Mike Jurecki of Arizona Sports 98.7.

Arizona has about $24 million in cap space, which is far less than the Browns, Jets and Vikings, and a little less than the Broncos. Those are the teams that have been most linked with Cousins, and one of those teams is likely to make Cousins an offer much bigger than the Cardinals would make.

The two quarterbacks who played after Palmer got hurt last year, Drew Stanton and Blaine Gabbert, are both set to become free agents on March 14. That means the Cardinals, who own the 15th pick in the draft, will hope they can get a good rookie quarterback, as well as a veteran who’s less expensive than Cousins.

55 responses to “Kirk Cousins may be too rich for the Cardinals’ blood

  1. The Cards may as well draft a rookie QB. Neither Stanton nor Gabbert are the answer, but one of them might make a decent backup. Hope they can find someone who can play the position.

  2. If those other teams had any sense, they would pass on Cousins too. $30M a year will cripple you …. last I checked, football is a team sport.

  3. I hope the Jets find it too rich for them also.

    Having been a fan since Richard Todd battled it out with Matt Robinson, and having seen the folly for generations of the win now philosophy, I’m a fan of building a young team. I believe the path they are currently on will bear fruit.

    Should they commit to Cousins a financial ripple effect will result, causing yet another change in approach. The building will come to a halt.

    Moreover, I cannot understand the hype for a QB with Cousin’s stats and record.

  4. Cards’ need may be bad, but not bad enough to need to overpay for a good-but-not-elite Cousins. The Cards’ front office, however, is definitely stupid enough to do it – but thankfully don’t have the money – simply because of all the other stupid mistakes they’ve already made.

  5. If they can’t get a decent yet affordable guy like Keenum then I would make a run at Foles. Give fitz at least a veteran who can sling the ball around. He deserves it his last year. All pro player and person!!

  6. There’s a real good chance that the best QB in the draft will still be there when the Cardinals pick at #15. It happens all the time. Wasn’t Cousins a 4th round pick? Maybe they could acquire Case Keenum. He was an undrafted free agent. The Cards are in good shape. There are plenty of QB’s out there who can play. They don’t always get drafted early. When was the last time the Cards went to the super bowl? It was when they had Kurt Warner, another free agent.

  7. ahsinnyc says:
    February 26, 2018 at 6:03 am
    If those other teams had any sense, they would pass on Cousins too. $30M a year will cripple you …. last I checked, football is a team sport.
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    Not necessarily. The average cap space available is about $38M. The Browns could pay Cousins $30M and still have $82M left, which is still more than anyone in the league except the Jets. The Jets could pay and still have about $57M – well above the league average and more than the next 7 teams. Denver would eat up all its space ($27M) so they would have to create some. The Vikes would have about $25M left – but their team is pretty much intact so they could do it.

    The teams that are looking at him, with the exception of Denver, could swing it, and the Browns and Jets could do so without batting an eye.

    Now do I think Cousins is worth $30M? No. But someone is going to pay him that much.

  8. george1859 says:
    February 26, 2018 at 6:54 am
    30 million for mediocre Kirk Cousins….
    What has happened to Football?
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    That is the real question, and I agree. He is hardly anywhere near the best in football, and that number suggests that he is among them, even though someone else will end up breaking his number shortly after in all likelihood. I prefer baseline contracts with incentives. I do not think he is a great QB, certainly not elite, so I wouldn’t pay him as an elite QB. But I would give him the chance to earn elite money by playing at that level. That’s a win win for both player and team.

  9. Dolphins fan here.. Sounds crazy.. But can we trade Tannehill to ARI to move up in the draft and select Baker Mayfeild.. Creates cap space, and it’s inevitable Tannehill will be gone, regardless..
    We need 3 new QB’s, all under the age of 25
    Please & Thank You

  10. Kirk Cousins has performed so he should be well paid as an NFL quarterback. However when the QB who is good but not great commands numbers that will cripple the team with other free agents or regarding future cap space it’s time to walk away. So the Redskins decided they can’t afford Cousins! The league will adjust to this crazy Cousin’s hysteria and Kirk will end up not as rich.

  11. The Vikings are not signing Cousins unless they can get him for less than 25 million. Anything higher than 25 would cost the Vikings at least one of their key defensive players and Zimmer isn’t going to go for that.

  12. Hear me out here. Is it possible that you rest of the media have over estimated cousins worth ?? That perhaps even though you keep repeating it over and over, that just maybe he’s looking at 20 mil a year or less even ? Just saying

  13. A great quarterback is not the only way to reach and win the SB. How often have Drew Brees, Ben Rothleisberger, Aaron Rodgers, or for that matter, any quarterback making over 20 million played in the SB the last few years. The best way to make it to the SB is to spend money on defense, O line and wide receivers. Then draft a good college QB, which is what Seattle did in the early part of this decade.

  14. I get wanting to maximize his money, but if I’m Kirk after being with that travesty of an organization, the Redskins, I would just go where I actually wanted to play, assuming the money is even close to market.

  15. It might have moderated a bit from the old days, but the Bidwell family has the reputation of being tight with the wallet.
    Who says Cousins is the top FA QB? Right now, it’s Drew Brees. For the long haul, Keenum would be a good investment, something the Vikings also know well.
    A rookie QB should not be targeted as a day 1 starter as that could end up being a disaster.
    Sam Bradford might not be a bad pick for the Cardinals as a FA, as he could give them a couple of seasons before the draft pick takes over.

  16. reddzen says:
    February 26, 2018 at 7:39 am

    The Browns could pay Cousins $30M and still have $82M left…
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    That is absolutely criminal.

  17. Cousins kind of seems like a guy that puts his contract and personal concerns over his team and winning on a consistent basis. He always seems to be embroiled in his financial status and how much he’s going to make.
    All players want to maximize their value of course, but it just seems like that’s by far the most important thing to Cousins.

  18. Not worth 30mil, not worth 28mil, not even worth 25mil IMHO but he is going to get paid. I would say he should be in the 19-22mil per year range.

    However some team is going to pay him and cripple their chances of keeping any of the rest of their quality FAs.

  19. And if you look at Tyrod Taylor, he compares very much with Cousins. If you look at their overall passing numbers, they are very similar, and Taylor is a much better runner, and a year younger. I’m sure he’d be less expensive than Cousins as well.

  20. Cousins is the smartest kid in a dumb class! As a jet fan you can’t pay a “B” graded QB “A+” money. This is not a 28 year old Brady, Brees or Rodgers. He has proven in Washington that he alone can’t carry the team to victory so pay him accordingly. Sounds like its going to be same old jets

  21. The Cardinals can easily create another $10 million in cap space by cutting some of their oft injured linemen like Iupati, Veldheer or Josh Mauro on the other side of the ball. Mauro makes $3.5 and doesn’t even start.

  22. drafted by mike shanahann, someone john smelway respects.

    broncos going to get him, but every season with van-joe is a lost one.

    also, broncos, draft a good TE already.

  23. If I’m the Cardinals, I tell Cousins that 20 mil a year is our limit. If that doesn’t work form him then he can move on. You have to have money to adequately fill other positions.

  24. nsauser says:
    February 26, 2018 at 10:08 am
    Cousins is just Joe Flacco a non-elite QB who thinks he’s worth elite money.
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    I disagree with this. Joe Flacco was never really a playmaker. If you look at what Cousins has done, he’s thrown for 4000 yards and 25 TD with nothing. No real running game, no O-line and sub par wide receivers. Flacco can’t do that right now and he too has nothing around him.

  25. Dolphins fan here.. Sounds crazy.. But can we trade Tannehill to ARI to move up in the draft and select Baker Mayfeild.. Creates cap space, and it’s inevitable Tannehill will be gone, regardless..
    We need 3 new QB’s, all under the age of 25
    Please & Thank You

    Depending on him passing a physical, that has legs. Similar to Palmer, he would already be 30 by the time he gets to ARI. Then you can still draft Allen, or whoever you believe in.

  26. nsauser says:
    February 26, 2018 at 10:08 am
    Cousins is just Joe Flacco a non-elite QB who thinks he’s worth elite money.

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    They dont think anything of the sort, they are simply businessmen that push for the most money possible. If that turns into elite money its because someone else thought it was worth paying that.

  27. Hopefully the Cardinals save their money, trade down for more picks and draft Mason Rudolph. He’s gonna end up being the best quarterback in the draft.

  28. No GM in his right mind is going to pay Kirk Cousins $25 – $30 million! If Kirk Cousins was a winner maybe, but not for just his stat yards, if he was averaging 35+ TD a season or if he was a good red zone QB maybe. Kirk Cousins is a QB who has choked in every big game that he has ever played.

    During his time with the Washington Redskins, Cousins’ starting record against winning teams is 4-19

    Cousins has cleaned up against losing teams (19-9-1) and has fared OK against .500 clubs (3-2), resulting in an overall record of 26-30-1 in the regular season.

    The numbers are alarming, to say the least. Of his four victories against winning opponents, only one came in the division — New York Giants, 2016. All told, he’s 1-7 against winning teams in the NFC East.

    The man he could replace, Josh McCown, went 3-4 last season versus winning teams — and he made $18 million less than Cousins.

    Kirk Cousins is average at best, Kirk and his agent made a huge mistake by being to greedy! The Redskins gave Kirk the best chance to win!

  29. Wouldnt it be funny if Cousins proved to be a little to expensive for what you are getting for everyone after all this talk? He’s going to blow the lid of the QB market!! Or not.
    Im sure someone is going to drop the cash on him anyway.

  30. Any QB who can’t lift the play of his team and teammates regardless of the talent surrounding him or can’t call his own plays, isn’t worth $20M+ per season. There are only three or four QBs worthy of such a salary. I know my QB isn’t worth what he’s been getting paid.

  31. ahsinnyc says:
    February 26, 2018 at 6:03 am
    If those other teams had any sense, they would pass on Cousins too. $30M a year will cripple you …. last I checked, football is a team sport.
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    I’m not saying Cousins is worth it, but I don’t think it’s that crazy to give 1/6th of the cap to your starting QB. Yes, it’s a team sport, but how important of a factor is your starting QB? Less than 1/6?

  32. joedskins1959 says:
    February 26, 2018 at 10:26 am
    Sooo glad he is gone from the Redskins. He is just not a leader or a big game QB.
    HTTR.
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    You like that? You like that!

  33. If the Vikings sign Keenum, and Teddy Bridgewaters contract doesn’t toll he would be a good fit. People dismiss him but just think of what he did for the Vikings, taking them from 5-11 to 11-5, winning the division and putting them in position of winning against the (to be) Super Bowl winner Seahawks, all that with a horrible Offensive line and watching him in pre season before he got hurt in 16′ he looked like an elite QB
    in the games he started vs the other teams 1st string Defenses. He just wins and is a very popular player in the Locker Room, players give it all for him. Cousins has already said he wants to go to Minnesota, in his words “Like a bullet, if the money is similar”. But personally I don’t think Cousins is that much of an upgrade over Keenum. There is still a part of me that really wants Bridgewater to stay with Minnesota. Tyrod Taylor may be a good choice or a chance with Bradford who will be cheap.

  34. The Cards signed Gabbert over two years ago as the best unsigned free agent QB sitting at home and available.

    They completely ignored another unsigned free agent sitting at home without a job. That was Foles who turned out to be gold and the current Super Bowl MVP.

    Based on their track record, is there any confidence that the Cards will get it right this time?

  35. realdealsteel says:
    February 26, 2018 at 10:12 am
    If I’m the Cardinals, I tell Cousins that 20 mil a year is our limit. If that doesn’t work form him then he can move on. You have to have money to adequately fill other positions.

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    Lol, he will move on

  36. The Cards signed Gabbert over two years ago as the best unsigned free agent QB sitting at home and available.

    They completely ignored another unsigned free agent sitting at home without a job. That was Foles who turned out to be gold and the current Super Bowl MVP.

    Based on their track record, is there any confidence that the Cards will get it right this time?

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    If they draft a QB in the first round and it turns out he can play, he’ll be under contract for four years. That’s kind of hard to screw up.

    I agree they should have kept Gabbert, he isn’t the best but there are worse QBs out there.

  37. There are a lot of people that have blinders on as far as Kirk Cousins is concern, but the truth about Kirk is fact! Some people can’t handle the truth!

    He chokes in big games!
    He plays poor against winning teams!
    And Kirk doesn’t win football games!
    Kirk is incapable of making a football team better!

    What are stats without wins?

  38. It’s simple math folks.

    Many are saying $30 million a season will cripple a team blah, blah, blah.

    The cap has spiked a ton year over year for the past 5 seasons. It’s gone up by at least $10 million each of the last 5 seasons and this coming season will be the 6th consecutive season it will go up by at least $10 million.

    A $30 million per year deal this coming season, with the cap projected to be at $179 million is 16.76% of the salary cap.

    In 2012, the salary cap was 120.6 million and 16.76% of the cap was $20.21 million per season.

    So basically, a $30 million per year deal today is the SAME as a $20.21 million per year deal in 2012.

    Salary cap projected in 2018 $179 million
    Salary cap in 2017 $167 million
    Salary cap in 2016 $155.27 million
    Cap in 2015 $143.28 million
    Cap in 2014 $133 million
    Cap in 2013 $123 million
    Cap in 2012 $120.6 million

    This coming season will be the 6th consecutive year that the salary cap has gone up by at least $10 million.

    Yeah, $30 million is a crazy amount to us regular folks, hard to get our minds around making that much money for a game…

    But can’t look at it that way, gotta look at it as a percentage of the cap.

  39. Has anyone actually checked this man’s stats? Even his one playoff start? It’s not like he’s put up trash numbers. He hasn’t missed a game in three years as a full time starter. He’s put up numbers comparable to Derek Carr who has one year starting and 4 more touchdowns than him and Cousins has had lesser offensive talent around him. I think people get caught up in the bad management tagging him and not looking at the player.

  40. campcouch says:
    February 27, 2018 at 6:22 am
    Has anyone actually checked this man’s stats? Even his one playoff start? It’s not like he’s put up trash numbers. He hasn’t missed a game in three years as a full time starter. He’s put up numbers comparable to Derek Carr who has one year starting and 4 more touchdowns than him and Cousins has had lesser offensive talent around him. I think people get caught up in the bad management tagging him and not looking at the player.
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    We have, and we have seen ENOUGH!!! His best record is 9-7 when the cowboys lost romo and dez. He took up $660K only of the cap. Since being paid, he has gotten rest and the team record reflects that. It also reflects the talent they had to let walk in order to pay his additional cap hit. This guys resume is abysmal. He lost me at 4-19 record against teams with a winning record. Heck RG3 in his rookie year beat 5 teams with a winning record in that year alone. This guy is a regular season QB. He puts up his best numbers against teams with a losing record.

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