Reporter says Patriots tried to stop him from writing about Gronk and TB12

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Rob Gronkowski is considering walking away. The Patriots are limiting Alex Guerrero’s access to the team. Are those two things related?

New information from a Patriots beat reporter suggests they could be.

Mark Daniels of the Providence Journal wrote a piece last month about Gronkowski using the TB12 method, Tom Brady‘s approach to training and nutrition that he designed during years of working with Guerrero, his longtime trainer and consultant. Daniels now says the Patriots (who always shy away from commenting on players’ health and fitness) tried to put the kibosh on that story.

Responding to talk that part of Gronkowski’s unhappiness stems from disagreements with the Patriots about how to train, Daniels wrote on Twitter yesterday that the Patriots didn’t want him to write the story he wrote about the TB12 method.

“Gronk agreed to talk to me about his new diet and when the Pats found out, they told me it couldn’t happen. But since Gronk really wanted to talk about it, he did. In the end, I still got a 1400-word feature out of it, but it was annoying how the Pats tried to stop the story,” Daniels wrote.

The story focused on Guerrero’s tips for Gronkowski, which included drinking more water and eating more vegetables, as well as working out with resistance bands. It said Gronkowski had lost fat and gained muscle while working with Guerrero, and it reflected well on Guerrero’s training methods.

But nothing about the story reflected poorly on the Patriots. Unless, that is, the Patriots think that credit for their success is a zero-sum game, and any credit that goes to Guerrero necessarily takes credit away from the team’s own strength and conditioning staff. If that’s the case, it’s easy to believe that Guerrero and the players who work with him — including Gronkowski and Brady — would be growing tired of the Patriot Way.

97 responses to “Reporter says Patriots tried to stop him from writing about Gronk and TB12

  1. TB12 (the company – not the QB) are part of the future of sports. It’s worked for Brady and now Gronk. Even Hanley Ramirez of the Red Sox is buying in. You’d have to be foolish or not willing to consider alternative ideas to get in the way of this.

  2. Stupid. Gronk will be back next year, unless NE trades him. It’s possible with his injury issues, turning 29 years-old, and being a 12 mil cap hit this upcoming season.

  3. natural foods vs processed foods

    no contest

    processed foods are much higher in unhealthy fats, salt, sugar, and total calories, and are lower vitamins and minerals

    natural foods have more fiber, are significantly lower on calories, unhealthy fats, sugar, salt and higher in vitamins and minerals

  4. speicher145 says:
    February 28, 2018 at 8:59 am
    Stupid. Gronk will be back next year, unless NE trades him. It’s possible with his injury issues, turning 29 years-old, and being a 12 mil cap hit this upcoming season.
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    Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think a guy mulling about retirement will fetch a lot for the Patriots in a trade.

  5. He’s won superbowls, made plenty of money, and had a great time doing it. If there are opportunities out there that don’t involve getting hit 30x per week, no reason not to explore.

  6. .
    The topic has the potential to create hard feelings within the team. It’s much like the traditional approach to medicine vs a more homeopathic method. They’re never viewed as viable alternatives. Instead they’re seen as polar opposites, one is a complete and total rejection of the other.
    .

  7. Drinking more water and eating more vegetables, and using resistance bands?

    Brady and Gronk could save a ton of money and just buy a P90X dvd instead of paying this guy.

  8. terripet says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:09 am
    It’s about to blow up in cheater land

    ———
    Keep fighting the good fight little guy…..one day it will actually be true

  9. The race to become THE REPORTER who breaks up the Patriots has gone past annoying. All the faux stories and attacks added up to a late 4th quarter loss in the Super Bowl to a great team that had far better defensive talent than NE.
    Blah blah blah. They already printed the AFC Championship tickets for next season and just waiting to fill in Patriots’ opponents. Vegas knows it and the rest of the NFL knows it.

  10. Censoring the media? This is just the tip of the iceberg but it may be enough to sink the U.S.S. Patriots once and for all. Get out those asterisks. The Louisville Solution is about to be adopted by the NFL.

  11. Of course it’s a ‘zero sum’ situation. Patriot way. Period. Take any percentage of credit away and it’s not %100.

    PS

    If Mrs. Brady wasn’t making 50 mil a year, I guarantee Mr. Brady would be making 25. 15m is a joke.

    I wonder if they have some 10m a year ‘consulting’ job lined up for him. That certainly would be a great way to ‘cheat’ the cap system.If I thought of it, someone else has too. Not into their whole cheating debate. Just wondering…

  12. The Pats don’t want any attention paid to the TB12 company. They pay their QB half of what he should be paid in salary and pay the rest to his sports rehab company to treat the team. They cheat the cap that way and can sign a couple more good players with the money. It’s not fair to the teams that do follow the cap rules.

  13. No professional sports organization is more annoying than the patriots.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Yankees are at the top of my list.

  14. raymondmac says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:06 am
    natural foods vs processed foods

    no contest

    processed foods are much higher in unhealthy fats, salt, sugar, and total calories, and are lower vitamins and minerals

    natural foods have more fiber, are significantly lower on calories, unhealthy fats, sugar, salt and higher in vitamins and minerals

    ————

    and yet, people still mock it.

  15. League also needs to think about stepping in here with a fine at the very least – possible loss of draft picks. Patriots are trying to squelch the media, which, if successful, sets a very dangerous precedent.

  16. It is not outrageous (or censorship) for a team to ask a reporter not to run a story. If the reporter refuses and then gets a polonium handshake, THAT would be outrageous.

  17. Sorry Pat fan.
    TB12 is junk science designed for one purpose – to sucker the general public into spending a fortune on TB12 labeled products. 538 has an excellent article on this.

    Read and be informed.

  18. BTW, my wife is a chef and all we eat are glutton free, crazy healthy stuff that looks funky but tastes great. Every ingredient is known to her. Processed foods are long gone. Expensive but after cutting out junk food and processed food, it’s so easy to maintain a certain weight and feel better. We get our meat from a farm and any seafood you buy should say MADE (or caught) in America. Not ‘packaged’ in America. When you see Shrimp on sale it’s never the stuff from Seattle. It’s the stuff from some 3rd world country.

    I know there are about 20 things you’re not supposed to put in your body that we keep doing. Look at the mortality rates of people from Ms,La and Ark vs the NE or NW. Night and day. It’s the food and the water. The water in the south is undrinkable. Look in the food carts for those of you who vacation in the South It’s scary. Eat and drink bad stuff and it’s right there in the toe tag stats.

  19. Hey Pat fan – don’t forget to fork over $200 for those bio-ceramic pajamas like TB12 told you to do.

    Hilarious. People actually believe this crap?

  20. The Patriots don’t like Fake News, there is no reason to ever talk to a lawyer or journalist, unless you are accusing someone else of doing something. Ted Wells and ESPN have proven that they don’t care about the truth. They stand by their story, even when things are proven to be inaccurate. Pretty sad.

  21. Braz says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:56 am
    Sorry Pat fan.
    TB12 is junk science designed for one purpose – to sucker the general public into spending a fortune on TB12 labeled products. 538 has an excellent article on this.
    Read and be informed.

    ————–

    You can’t label things junk science in their entirety. There are parts that certainly aren’t supported by the medical community, like pliability. However, there is no question that resistance training, eating a healthy diet and staying hydrated are all keys to staying fit and preventing injury. TB12 brings all of those things regardless of whether you believe strawberries cause inflammation.

  22. The Evil Empire Has Fallen! This is Watergate! – literally. Drink it up haters – crying dehydrates you.

  23. “League also needs to think about stepping in here with a fine at the very least – possible loss of draft picks.”

    How ridiculous. Anyone has a right to ask a reporter not to print a story, and or not give him much in the way of future access if he does.

    This “oh noes oh noes the Patriots sneezed, take some draft picks” is beyond insanity.

  24. terripet says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:09 am
    It’s about to blow up in cheater land
    —————————–
    Been hearing that for 17 years.. When you say ‘blow up’ you mean like how Indy has since they chased Manning out? Why don’t you put some skin in the game Nostradamus. If there is no ‘blow up’ by August, you go away permanently.

  25. sorry guy’s, when I go to work, I go to work
    I don’t go to work to have fun, nice if we can factor it in, but the expectation of my boss is I will bust my ass when on the job and that’s what I do
    Work Hard – Play Hard
    Bellichek’s been a bit of a dick if the reporters right, but then again, how often are reporters right

  26. After reading the comments on this article I can’t imagine why the Patriots were hesitant about ANOTHER article being written about their players and Guerrero. *sarcasm font*

  27. To me this just seems like NE doesn’t want Brady – or anyone else – using the Pats to promote their own business venture. Of course NE has no interest in promoting Guerrero and Brady’s “TB12 Method” because it has nothing to do with the organization. I don’t know that this really sounds like any kind of conspiracy to me – any organization with a PR department wants to control the narrative, whether they’re able to or not.

    As for Guererro’s “methods” – well, it sounds like what any personal trainer would tell you to do. Eat better and work with bands, which are much MUCH easier on joints than free weights. For someone like Gronk with an injury history, building more flexibility with lower impact in his workouts would likely be very beneficial.

  28. What’s wrong with the Patriots way? Most teams want to be like the Patriots. Belichick’s roots is spreading in the NFL.

  29. Caught and punished for cheating to win 3 super bowls, won the other two by opposing coach meltdown. Play in the softest division year after year. The end is near- just hope they turn on each other!

  30. amaf21 says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:33 am
    No professional sports organization is more annoying than the patriots.

    No professional sports fanbase is more annoying than Patriots haters.

  31. bullcharger says:
    February 28, 2018 at 10:16 am

    Braz says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:56 am
    Sorry Pat fan.
    TB12 is junk science designed for one purpose – to sucker the general public into spending a fortune on TB12 labeled products. 538 has an excellent article on this.
    Read and be informed.

    ————–

    You can’t label things junk science in their entirety. There are parts that certainly aren’t supported by the medical community, like pliability. However, there is no question that resistance training, eating a healthy diet and staying hydrated are all keys to staying fit and preventing injury. TB12 brings all of those things regardless of whether you believe strawberries cause inflammation.
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    Right. And we don’t even need to pay Tom and his buddy to understand that.

    As the article I mentioned says it’s funny how for every piece of TB12 advice there is, the next thing is always shilling some TB12 product that claims to be the magic answer to helping you achieve that. TB12 isn’t the only one out there that does this, people always want magic solutions to anything health and fitness and there are lots of stuff that claims to do it…but this is still typical of junk science peddlers trying to make a quick buck over anything else.

  32. Braz says:
    February 28, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Hey Pat fan – don’t forget to fork over $200 for those bio-ceramic pajamas like TB12 told you to do.
    ———————-

    With those pajamas and a My Pillow, I get the best nights of sleep ever.

  33. 1historian says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:06 am
    “The Patriot Way” – either you endorse it or hate it.

    But it works

    ////////////////

    Not for the players

  34. nhpats says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:30 am
    terripet says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:09 am
    It’s about to blow up in cheater land

    ———
    Keep fighting the good fight little guy…..one day it will actually be true

    Must be tough to be an Indy fan apparently–what a circus over there. Always wondering what the real champions are gonna do.

    Here’s a hint, Junior: you’re going to have to suffer some more—just in the event that you didn’t know, which, quite frankly, is usually the case.

  35. Any year the pats don’t win the bowl the media lemmings fill their lineage quotas with stories about dissension and collapse. Then lo and behold, they just keep winning and they knew it all along.

  36. loyalbrownsfan says:
    February 28, 2018 at 9:44 am

    Anyone else annoyed with the fact they said TB12 and not Tom Brady? No way I’m the only one!
    ————————-

    Only the people that can’t comprehend what they read. For the purposes of this article, TB12 and Tom Brady are two different things.

  37. If you adjust your regular USA diet for two weeks, you feel better physically and mentally.

    An owner who wants his players healthy, it would be wise to at least examine some of what TB12 does – after all the evidence is on TV every week in the form of a 41 year QB playing like he’s 30. Not rocket science and not the ideal gas law either

  38. When is there too much control? Sounds like Belichick and the Pats have been reading too much of the book “1984”.

  39. The empire is slowly decaying….

    You do know Tom has won more without Gronk than with him, right?

    Great player, but they come…….they go.

  40. Sounds like much ado about nothing. Every organization tries to knock down stories that are anything besides precisely what they want to be sharing, and stories that talk about internal processes aren’t favored by anyone.

    Amateur-hour commenters will find much to salivate over, but this is normal, folks.

  41. I’m not seeing the problem. Any business, organization, or administration will ask a media person to not publish a story that could be perceived as negative. What would be wrong would be taking steps to kill the story beyond simply asking.

  42. sceaglesfan says:
    February 28, 2018 at 11:21 am

    Caught and punished for cheating to win 3 super bowls, won the other two by opposing coach meltdown. Play in the softest division year after year
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    I’ll always wonder what kind of success Brady and the Patriots would have had over the years if they were away from the AFC Least. Honestly this is more than enough reason to put a * beside their success, the fact they benefited from being in the Least, one of the most inept divisions that you’ll ever see in sports. When you get to be in the Least every year it’s easy to win the division and get a home playoff game and most of the time pile up enough wins to get a home division round playoff game. Must be nice.

    Put them in a tough physical division with good quarterbacks and/or good coaching like the AFC North and realistically any NFC division and let’s see them win 15 division titles in 17 years and go to 8 Super Bowls. I have my doubts.

  43. All you guys saying this means everything is crumbling. Can you imagine how crushing it would be if a story suddenly came out that Gronk intends to be with the team next year after all?

  44. If the players like Guerrero and get results from his training methods but the team feels the it makes their conditioning coaches look bad then why not just hire Guerrero?

  45. ““The Patriot Way” – either you endorse it or hate it.”

    TB12 is not the Patriot way. That’s why Belichick told the guy to stop coming around the team’s facilities.

  46. “Put them in a tough physical division with good quarterbacks and/or good coaching like the AFC North and realistically any NFC division and let’s see them win 15 division titles in 17 years and go to 8 Super Bowls. I have my doubts.”

    ##############

    The weak AFC East has A LOT to do with the Pats’ success. It’s no coincidence that the ’80s Niners played in an NFC West that was an absolute joke. It’s a whole lot easier to build a dynasty with eight gimme wins and an automatic division title every year.

  47. Sorry, can’t buy any of it – the Guerrero stories don’t pass the smell test because media has agenda to run him out of Foxboro plus his methods with players clearly work and Belichick knows this.

  48. Why is this a problem if a player wants to take a more healthier approach to working out?
    Foolishness to the third power.
    When they should be happy if their players are looking to be healthier and inturn boost their on the field production.In what world is that bad? If it works for certain players great,if it doesn’t then no skin of their backs.
    Seems to me this is just jealousy on the part of the fitness personal of the Pats. They must be feeling like Guerrero is getting all this credit for Brady’s success already and soon he will have all the players on board also and leave us without any credit for anything.
    So they must be telling the Pats ethier Guerrero leaves or we will. Really seems that’s what might be happening here.
    Why else would they kick Guerrero out from teams@
    Jealousy at it’s best.

  49. Put them in a tough physical division with good quarterbacks and/or good coaching like the AFC North and realistically any NFC division and let’s see them win 15 division titles in 17 years and go to 8 Super Bowls. I have my doubts.

    ____

    Lol! The super tough AFC North? With powerhouses Cleveland and Cincinnati? Bahahahaha. Even the Ravens were only good for like 4 years.

  50. The old weak division argument. Goes hand in hand with the Pats filming practices and walkthroughs. Both of these points have been absolutely refuted by facts. Time after time. But, like the Right, haters think if you repeat lies enough times, it somehow becomes true. Haters are not the defendants of NFL integrity. They are the hopeless fans of all the teams that the Pata have beaten down over the last 17 yrs. Sad.

  51. joker65 says:
    February 28, 2018 at 3:15 pm
    Put them in a tough physical division with good quarterbacks and/or good coaching like the AFC North and realistically any NFC division and let’s see them win 15 division titles in 17 years and go to 8 Super Bowls. I have my doubts.

    ____

    Lol! The super tough AFC North? With powerhouses Cleveland and Cincinnati? Bahahahaha. Even the Ravens were only good for like 4 years.

    ————-+
    The Ravens did give the Patriots trouble. But the Steeler have not.

  52. Gronk looked better last season than he’s ever looked and I stopped cringing every time he got tackled! This might be the future of sports medicine and the Pats trainers should get on board.

  53. It’s a fact that there is a lot of quackery involved in the Alex/TB12 thing. So I would assume that they wouldn’t want a lot of focus on it to prevent further digging into the less logical stuff and further scrutiny. Drinking water and eating vegetables make sense, but I’m sure no one wants to be associated with the nuttier stuff. I mean, this is football, and even baseball people have a problem with coaches who talk about less conventional nutrition.

  54. comments about the decline of the PATRIOTS empire are grossly exaggerated, and extremely premature. PATRIOTS will return to the super bowl yet again this up coming season, and this time we get the SIXTH RING.

  55. “the Guerrero stories don’t pass the smell test because media has agenda to run him out of Foxboro plus his methods with players clearly work and Belichick knows this.”

    Actually they do when you know more of the details. The problem was the Pats trainers are telling players to work out with weights on a specific program, and Guerrero, a non team employee, is telling them to work out in a different manner with resistance bands.

    Belichick may have to allow Brady to do what he wants in that respect, but he cannot allow other players on the team to go rogue and ignore the team’s strength and conditioning staff. That’s a very reasonable thing as what company can allow non employees to dictate what their staff does?

  56. I’ll always wonder what kind of success Brady and the Patriots would have had over the years if they were away from the AFC Least. Honestly this is more than enough reason to put a * beside their success, the fact they benefited from being in the Least, one of the most inept divisions that you’ll ever see in sports. When you get to be in the Least every year it’s easy to win the division and get a home playoff game and most of the time pile up enough wins to get a home division round playoff game. Must be nice.

    Put them in a tough physical division with good quarterbacks and/or good coaching like the AFC North and realistically any NFC division and let’s see them win 15 division titles in 17 years and go to 8 Super Bowls. I have my doubts.
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    Myth.
    Their record is BETTER against non-AFC East teams.
    The AFC East during the Brady era is the single best division in the NFL by won/loss record.
    Facts.

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