Howie Roseman thought he was done when he was pushed aside for Chip Kelly

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Eagles General Manager Howie Roseman is riding high after building a Super Bowl-winning team, but there was a time not long ago when he never thought it was possible.

In 2015, Roseman was exiled from football operations in favor of then-coach Chip Kelly, and Roseman told PFT Live that at the time, he thought he was done having any significant role in Philadelphia.

“As it turned out, it was probably the best thing that ever happened to me. Did I ever think I would be back in a significant position in Philadelphia? No. I don’t think that I did. But I was just determined that I was going to try to do the right thing every day, and get better and learn more,” Roseman said.

Roseman practiced addition by subtraction in getting rid of many of Kelly’s favorite players, including Kiko Alonso, DeMarco Murray, Ryan Mathews, Jordan Matthews, Sam Bradford and Byron Maxwell, flipping many of them in trades that yielded draft picks and better players. All those moves turned the Eagles into the best team in the league, and made Roseman the best executive in the league, not long after Roseman thought he was finished as a personnel executive altogether.

59 responses to “Howie Roseman thought he was done when he was pushed aside for Chip Kelly

  1. That had to be a weird situation. To be demoted and cut out like that, just to be brought back and win a Super Bowl a couple of years later. Eat crow much Jeffrey?

  2. Funny how that works sometimes. Way to go Howie. You sure have me a season to remember – and I am not even an Eagles fan. But Wentz and Co. and then Foles and Co. were fun to watch.

  3. Such a phenomenal job by Howie. His greatest masterpiece was the series of moves to get Wentz, but almost every little thing he’s done over the last 2 years has been perfect. Jason Kelce rightly singled him out for praise during his epic parade speech. I’m super happy for him.

  4. A very unlikely path to the Superbowl but fitting for Philadelphia. Kelly was absolutely horrible as a GM. His philosophy on the offensive line was crazy and one of many reasons the Eagles team went off a cliff. I think he had 2 street free agents starting on the offensive line his last year because Chip believed you could throw anyone on the offensive line, it wasn’t important.

    The one move that was kind of a blessing in disguise was the trading of McCoy. McCoy is a great running back and still going strong and a player i wish was still with the Eagles, if he did not have his cap hit.

    If you have McCoy, the money has to come from somewhere. Maybe you can’t afford Foles, or Jeffery, etc. The Eagles are going to lose a few pieces this year who want new contracts as it is and when Wentz gets his new contract in a year, there will be a lot of hard cuts that have to be made.

    The Eagles needed every bit of depth they had this year, at QB, CB, RB, LB, and OL.

  5. Is it quite possible the iggles have become more annoying with one little graduation ring than the Steelers and Patriots ,,I think so ! Get use to Saquan Barkley hanging a buck fifty on that horrible Jim Swartz defense !

  6. Sometimes, you have to be “slapped down” a notch to improve in your life. He got demoted and it served him well later.

  7. Not an Eagles fan ..but do recognize a great job.
    When Kelly made all those crazy moves along with
    his losing games, I thought the Eagles were years
    away. When the changes were made back to Howie,
    the renewed front offfice made move after move to
    overcome the mistakes made. It seems as if every move
    was exactly right. Congrats to your front office. You deserve it.

  8. I’m glad the real Elmer is back. It was like bizarro world for a while there. You could get an in his prime Jim Brown and he’d have trouble running behind that O-line. Not to mention, did you see how well your new coach made out against that horrible D in the NFC Championship?

  9. Thats why the Eagles are screwed right now being 10 million over the cap. you guys put all your eggs in too win 1 super bowl not multiple

    ibleedgreeneagles says:
    March 1, 2018 at 7:37 am
    It was a Fantastic Quick turn around!!!
    He was a wizard working Deals.

  10. The Eagles are actually about 8.3mm over right now but estimates figure with cuts and restructure they will only get to about 1mm under this year.
    That’s terrible.
    And actually 2019 looks even worse. They have quite a few big paydays for players under contract. They will be predicted to be well over the cap again.
    Then in 2020 Wentz becomes a FA and with whatever huge contract he gets they end up over the cap again and have to make significant cuts.
    Rosen deserves every bit of credit for this past year and SB run and win.
    But what he has set up for the next few years is crippling by all standards.

  11. It’s not like Roseman didn’t have a lot to work with.
    Kelly’s teams weren’t horrible. He was 6-9 in his worst (of only 2.99) seasons. He has a winning record as an Eagles coach. Roseman couldn’t have gotten what he did in the trades if players on the team were so bad. They were all very good – just ill-suited for that particular team and structure.

    I’m not commenting on Kelly’s ability as a GM, which left much to be desired. You don’t treat players like commodities (which, oddly enough, is exactly what Roseman does for a living, though perhaps he’s better at it) when you’re a coach. Having both roles made Kelly bad. As a coach, Kelly was fine.
    Roseman definitely benefited from the situation. His picks, prior to Kelly’s arrival, were at best mediocre, as were his moves. He does, after all, have to take credit for the decline the team had at the end of Reid’s tenure. Those personnel issues were all on him, most of those moves were horrible.
    Even some of the personnel issues were his when he worked with Kelly. By all accounts, Marcus Smith at #1 was primarily his call, and that was a colossal fail.
    Which isn’t to say Roseman is bad – results speak for themselves. His exile was probably a chance to improve where he had previously failed. And let’s just say he did a great job at analyzing what he’d messed up before, and improving on it.

  12. Roseman is obviously loving his victory lap, but Joe Douglas and those Baltimore scouts that came with him are the difference between then before Chip usurped him and now. Back then he had that dummy Tom Gamble as his main personnel man. That wasn’t going to work out for anybody.

  13. “feckyerlife says:
    March 1, 2018 at 8:55 am
    Thats why the Eagles are screwed right now being 10 million over the cap. you guys put all your eggs in too win 1 super bowl not multiple”

    10 million isn’t anything for an adept front office to figure out how to restructure. Players will take less pay to play for the SB champs.

  14. So Chip Kelly really deserves some credit for the Eagles’ championship. He motivated Roseman to be a great GM, he was the first to discover Nick Foles, and he jettisoned me-first players like Desean Jackson and Lesean McCoy. Chip Kelly deserves a ring, or at least a playoff share.

  15. For the first time in decades the Eagles are in bad CAP shape and that also due to “The Lil Chipster” and the crazy contracts he handed out with no thought on how it would effect the team in the future. That said I’m sure coaching 100 college kids with scholarships to lose in a big program will have him turn back into a genius.

  16. truesob1 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 9:28 am

    10 million isn’t anything for an adept front office to figure out how to restructure. Players will take less pay to play for the SB champs.

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    Players taking less money to p!ay for champs is the biggest farce out there.
    Same with the term ‘hometown discount’.
    History actually shows players will nearly always take whoever pays them the best and play on horrible teams.
    It happens over and over every FA period.

    And yes, cuts and restructure will be done but by all scenarios it will not clear any tremendous room.
    If anything it will be about the league worst for the next few years.
    Rosen signed away the farm to win now.
    It worked and Philly got the big prize.
    But now the next few years he has to pay for his deal with the devil and basically be in cap hell or move some very talented and valuable players.
    And while maybe one or two examples can be found that is the aberration.

  17. Howie Roseman deserves all the credit in the world for assembling a championship roster just three years after the failed Chip Kelly experiment. But while there’s no doubt that Howie’s year in “exile” allowed him to grow as an executive, attributing all of his success to that year of growth is a bit unfair to Howie.

    Throughout Howie’s tenure with the Eagles, he has consistently been a victim of irrational human thought. People wrote him off because he wasn’t a “football guy.” And I suspect that his high-ish pitched voice and small-ish stature didn’t do him any favors. These are examples of irrational human biases that caused people to inaccurately assess reality. And the reality they missed was that Howie is an excellent salary cap manager, deal-maker, and talent evaluator.

    Much credit should also be given to Jeffrey Lurie for recognizing and cultivating Howie’s talent instead of truly banishing him to Siberia.

  18. Famunda pretty hard to run the ball last year when your whole receiving core was out not using that as an excuse just fact I expect with a healthy receiving core it could lend itself to gashing the fraud Jim Swartzs defense,,oh Waite the Giants kind of did that in the second game with a bunch of nobodies !

  19. Chip Kelly was an utter disaster! Not a Rich Kotite level disaster but close. Glad Lurie came to his senses, fired Kelly, promoted Howie and brought back an Andy Reid disciple in the form of Doug Pederson! All of that = Super Bowl champions!

  20. Amazing GM job. I was one of those that thought trading all those picks to draft Wentz who didn’t play in a top College conference would blow up in their faces but that was a great move.

  21. Just shows you what a stooge Chip Kelly was. He pushed this very capable man out, got rid of several Eagles star players who were in the prime of their career such as McCoy. Howie has really won my respect how he handled the whole situation. Pure class there.

  22. Cap situation for Philly is not as bad as it seems. Getting rid of Curry, Torrey Smith, and Celek, and the retiring of D. Jones frees up over $15 million right there. Howie knows what he is doing.

    maurysline says:

    March 1, 2018 at 9:58 am

    truesob1 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 9:28 am

    10 million isn’t anything for an adept front office to figure out how to restructure. Players will take less pay to play for the SB champs.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Players taking less money to p!ay for champs is the biggest farce out there.
    Same with the term ‘hometown discount’.
    History actually shows players will nearly always take whoever pays them the best and play on horrible teams.
    It happens over and over every FA period.

    And yes, cuts and restructure will be done but by all scenarios it will not clear any tremendous room.
    If anything it will be about the league worst for the next few years.
    Rosen signed away the farm to win now.
    It worked and Philly got the big prize.
    But now the next few years he has to pay for his deal with the devil and basically be in cap hell or move some very talented and valuable players.
    And while maybe one or two examples can be found that is the aberration.

  23. Howie demonstrates the consistent theme throughout the organization – no primadonnas. Team first.

  24. So hope my favorite college player Barkley does not end up on the Giants. First time I ever rooted for the Giants cause I knew they’d end up with a top spot in the draft and needed an RB desperately. Come on, Browns…step up and take Barkley with the first pick. You know you don’t want to take a QB with that first pick.

  25. .
    When the Eagles and Rams gave away the store to draft Wentz and Goff, I’d thought both clubs had gone insane. However, upon further review, they appear to be geniuses.
    .

  26. Too much is made of the cap deal. The cap rises every year to make more room, so projections don’t mean crap. We will soon be at 200 mil cap, so project away it all means nothing.
    Now as far as this year? Torry Smith is 5 Mil, sorry to see ya go but byebye. Brent Celek will have to restructure or retire. Curry likely restructure or traded, and he may not like to be traded, he’s a hometown boy. Heck even Punter Donnie “Bag of Bones” Jones hung em up this week to knock 1.6 mil off the cap already. All in all…….bet we are to 10 mil under cap REAL SOON. Howie already sharpened a whole drawer full of pencils. He lives for this stuff and with his recent track record, I wouldn’t count him out.

  27. Howie did an outstanding job. He was never demoted per say, he worked under a different title but got a raise. Credit to owner Laurie he faced a tough position with Kelly and it all worked out. Some NFL owners are complacent but Laurie has always tried, if something didn’t work; accusation of big name free agents, trying innovative coaches, he changed route and tried something new. He’s a guy that gets it and he gets that Howie is an asset.

  28. Every situation is a learning experience. I’m glad Howie hung in there, he’s a great guy and deserves his success.

  29. I like how fans of teams who haven’t won a championship in our lifetime criticize a GM for going all-in on one season, leaving some cap issues in the championship’s wake.

    Every one of you would trade a decade of cap-hell for a Super Bowl title. Unless you’re a Patriots or Steelers fan, you’re as hungry as anybody right now.

  30. Give Jeff Lurie some credit too. While he created the Kelly era, he also pulled the plug on it. Love big red too, but change was needed. Change is rarely easy. In this case, it definitely paid off.

  31. It was very unfair of Howie to rip off all those teams in trades, gaining draft picks that he used to trick the Browns into trading away the #2 that the Eagles used to get Carson Wentz.

    1st round pick + a pile of unwanted players = Carson Wentz

    Very unfair – to the rest of the league.

    PS – can’t wait to see what he gets for Foles!

  32. The eagles need to fix their cap situation, but I’m not worried about it. Ppl on this board are nuts. The eagles can easily make a few cuts be under and retain most of their team for another run next year. I want them to keep everyone, resign bradham, that’s my concern. I’d like to keep guys like torrey smith, kendricks, maragos and celek (thats like 15 mil right there), but not sure it will be possible.

  33. johny248 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 7:55 am
    That had to be a weird situation. To be demoted and cut out like that, just to be brought back and win a Super Bowl a couple of years later. Eat crow much Jeffrey?

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    Lurie was the one who decided to give him a raise and keep him in the fold in case the Kelly thing didn’t work out. You have to figure that Lurie had his doubts about Kelly, but felt like the only true way to find out about him was to give him the keys to the car. It was a smart move by Lurie to give Howie a gilded cage while the Kelly thing played out. So…no, no crow for Jeffrey.

  34. The Eagles fans on this board are delusional.
    Almost every single article written spells out the dire nature of their cap situation yet almost all here keep saying it’s not an issue.
    “We can save 15 mm with some cuts”…..
    Yeah, well that only gets you under by a few million.
    They only have one pick in the first three rounds but are talking of cutting 4-5 players.
    And there is almost no money to keep the FA they have.
    Every SB winning team gets raided….but in this case it’s worse….they don’t have the cap space to match any good offer…..even with getting rid of 4-5 players.
    Bottom line is they are going to lose more quality players than they can bring in or keep.
    It’s called cap hell.

  35. Elmer Elmer Elmer

    Any fan of a team that can’t win more than 3 games in a season, shouldn’t really have much legitimately to say about a Super Bowl Champion. Just saying. Besides, Who’s your coach now? Oh yeah, that offensive coordinator that couldn’t put up more than 7 points on the Eagles in the NFC championship game. Good luck with that…..

  36. feckyerlife,

    Really? 20 out of 22 starters are signed through the 2018 season and most of the core is signed thru the 2020 season. We got plenty of eggs – and they’re golden my friend!!!

  37. maurysline says:
    March 1, 2018 at 1:29 pm

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    Relax. It will be fine. If by some miracle I am wrong, you will still be here telling everyone i told you so. It doesn’t seem like you are a fan of the team so what does it matter to you?

    There will be some turnover, you can’t give everyone raises. That’s every team, every year.

  38. maurysline,

    “But what he has set up for the next few years is crippling by all standards”

    By most any metric, the Eagles had the deepest roster in the league. They lost their starting HOF left tackle, starting middle linebacker, MVP candidate QB, their do it all starting RB and their special teams captain and STILL won the Super Bowl. The cap situation is manageable considering they can restructure the guys they want to keep and will shed about 10 million by releasing a backup TE and rotation def lineman. They don’t need any high dollar free agents and they have 1 draft pick in the first 3 rounds, so they don’t need a lot of money to sign their draft class. The players mentioned above save 17 million on next years cap, so this gloom and doom you predict is nothing more than saltiness from a non Philly fan.

  39. Rumor has it they are trying to sign Patrick Robinson to a new deal, So i guess Howie isn’t to worried about the so called “cap hell” they are supposedly in.

  40. johny248 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 7:55 am
    That had to be a weird situation. To be demoted and cut out like that, just to be brought back and win a Super Bowl a couple of years later. Eat crow much Jeffrery?
    __________________________

    In a society where we’ve got a habit of doubling down on our errors, it’s refreshing to see someone in a leadership role admit a mistake and try to make up for it.

  41. And it all culminated in the luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL….Fluke-a-delphia. Illegal TD’s, Non-overturned TD’s, and benched starting CB’s…Oh my!

  42. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    March 1, 2018 at 8:17 am
    Is it quite possible the iggles have become more annoying with one little graduation ring than the Steelers and Patriots ,,I think so ! Get use to Saquan Barkley hanging a buck fifty on that horrible Jim Swartz defense !
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    If you mean to say that the Giants will be drafting Barkley and he’ll be running on us, trust me, nobody will be worried about Barkley with that God awful Offensive Line the Giants have, ranked one of the worst in football. Barkley will be lucky to get out alive! Now, if he played for the Eagles who have the #1 O-line in Football, well, that would be a different story!

  43. Chip Kelly was a good example of a successful college coach who did considerable damage to the Eagles roster because he didn’t understand correct player values and made poor evaluations. Full marks to Jeffrey Lurie for keeping Howie just in case Chip was wrong. Because he was. Congrats to Howie for aggressively turning it around in such a short space of time. Absolutely brilliant.

  44. So sad…so desperate for a championship in the losingest,four sport city in the country that eagle fan is willing to accept a lucky championship…that is a knew low…and that is saying alot when referring to Philly fans.

  45. Youknowimright says:
    March 1, 2018 at 6:19 pm
    So sad…so desperate for a championship in the losingest,four sport city in the country that eagle fan is willing to accept a lucky championship…that is a knew low…and that is saying alot when referring to Philly fans.

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    I love when people refer to winning championships based on “luck.” When a team loses its key players at most of the key positions–including a QB on the track to be MVP–and still wins a championship–calling it luck is about the stupidest thing one can do. It’s actually the furthest thing from luck.

  46. Sad Champion is better than a happy loser. When the last time your team was this lucky? Best team wire to wire. Luck you say, I say World Champion Philadelphia Eagles FLY EAGLES FLY

  47. Yeah that’s it …..you guys defend those eagles. Don’t let anybody talk about your favorite team like that….hilarious. you guys take it way to seriously…..I just like breaking your stones…you’d swear you guys were really part of the team….did you get your rings or winning pay checks yet…keep looking…they will be coming any day now. Nothing in your life is different.

  48. Youknowimright says:
    March 1, 2018 at 10:19 pm
    Yeah that’s it …..you guys defend those eagles. Don’t let anybody talk about your favorite team like that….hilarious. you guys take it way to seriously…..I just like breaking your stones…you’d swear you guys were really part of the team….did you get your rings or winning pay checks yet…keep looking…they will be coming any day now. Nothing in your life is different.
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    Isn’t it cute how this knucklehead suddenly tries to act all philosophical when the team he hates wins and becomes SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!!!! Notice how, when asked, he never admits who his favorite team is? Hmmmmm, wonder why that is? Such a pity someone has to be such a petty little crybaby just because his team didn’t win!

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