Mike Vrabel isn’t complaining about offseason schedule

AP

Since returning to work in the NFL, Raiders coach Jon Gruden has complained several times about the rules barring coaches from doing football work with players until the start of offseason programs in April.

Gruden issued his latest round of complaints during a visit to PFT Live on Wednesday and called it “really disappointing” to have to make decisions about roster spots without meeting some of the players in question. Another one of the league’s incoming head coaches expressed a different view on Thursday.

Titans head coach Mike Vrabel has been around the league in recent years and perhaps that’s why he doesn’t find anything to complain about when it comes to abiding by a schedule agreed to by both the league and players in their last round of collective bargaining. Vrabel also pointed out that it’s possible to speak to players about other things going on in their lives until it’s time to get to work on football.

“One thing that we’re not going to do is we’re not going to complain about the rules,” Vrabel said on PFT Live Thursday. “We’re just going to try to develop our players within those rules. If our players are in the building and I sit there and talk to them about their family, what their kids are doing or maybe what charities they’re involved with, those are things that are important to me right now.” 

Vrabel is adjusting to life as a head coach and said he’s learning that the responsibilities of the job leave him less time to watch tape with his assistants than he might like. He’ll have to adapt to that just like every other coach in the league, but the realities of his new job don’t seem to be causing him too much trouble overall.

21 responses to “Mike Vrabel isn’t complaining about offseason schedule

  1. I am sure Vrabel knows he would not be where he is today without his experience with the Patriots which was a perfect fit for player, coach and team.

    Patriots need to find another underutilized linebacker and recreate similar results.

  2. I think we have to accept that Gruden is more of a talker whereas Vrabel is more of a doer.

  3. I think Vrabel owes his HC experience to a variety of factors, and the Patriots are just one them. Their history of people leaving and becoming successful HCs is dismal, so I am going to credit the 7 years he has been honing his craft at Ohio State (great program, even if I don’t like the team), and with the Houston Texans. If he is successful (and I hope he is), it is likely because of what he did AFTER the Patriots that’s going to get him there. In history often lies proof.

  4. I do agree with streetyson. It’s part of why I don’t like Gruden. He is a personality and a coach with a mediocre .540 record. That does not make much of a coach in my book and I for one am tired of listening to him complain. Plus there’s the whole “turkey hole” fiasco that he wouldn’t let go. Vrabel on the other hand is a football guy, sticks to his craft. I am rooting for him 100%.

  5. You guys don’t get it.

    Gruden is playing the long game. Starts by complaining about less contact in off-season to build awareness of a “problem”. Otherwise the CBA negotiating point will never be address if it’s not viewed as important. He’s trying to get the middle and bottom half of the players to support more off-season workouts and coaching.

    Gruden knows it’s only the megastars that don’t want the off-season stuff. They’re already secure in their football position, but extra coaching of lesser players might make the star expendable if the lesser player gets better and is cheaper.

  6. We are excited in Titan Town with our new coach. Excited about LaFluer too, hoping he can make Marcus all he can be! Go Titans!

  7. Vrabel is far better off in the NFL than he would be in college with all of the cheating and dirty recruiting. If you can live with yourself in that dirty college game, good for you. It’s just not all about football.

  8. tigerlilac says:
    March 1, 2018 at 7:21 am
    I am sure Vrabel knows he would not be where he is today without his experience with the Patriots which was a perfect fit for player, coach and team.

    Patriots need to find another underutilized linebacker and recreate similar results.
    ——————————————————–
    They already did that with Ninkovich. Now they have to find a replacement for Ninkovich.

  9. Anybody who has followed the game for more than 15 years can clearly see the quality of play has greatly diminished due to lack of offseason work activity and practice time in general. We are basically watching pre-season quality football all the way up to week 8.

  10. Anything that keeps Gruden off of a broadcasting team is great in my book. So, let him whine and complain all he wants. Let him win 8-10 games every season, so the team keeps him in place, while he talks up himself and blames others for any losses. I hope he sticks with the Raiders for 20 years, if it keeps him off TV.

  11. Vrabel is simply saying what any untested rookie HC would say….as he should; he’s not going to try and cause waves before he’s even coached a game. I cant believe that there is even one NFL HC who actually likes the no contact rule.

  12. akira554 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 8:31 am
    You guys don’t get it.

    Gruden is playing the long game.

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    Well Gruden must be playing the extra extra long game. Not too many players are going to want to give up their free time. And they definitely shouldn’t give it up without some concessions within the CBA.
    Because Lord knows if the shoe were the other side the owners wouldn’t give up a penny without concessions.

  13. Gruden’s wrong. It invites ‘breaking of the rules.’ His owner is right though. Moving the team to Las Vegas means getting out of Oakland which is a mess and getting out of Cali which is a mess. Don’t forget, no state taxes in Nevada.

  14. Gruden is smart and understands that he wants it to change and the only way to bring change is to make a big deal about it and get it to be on the radar at the negotiating table the next CBA wrabel on the other hand is taking a shot at Gruden which I don’t think is a very smart idea as I think we will see in the coming years of the Raiders dominate the Titans as they have the last few years. Gruden is a Megastar and raible still most people don’t even know who he is I didn’t even realize he was the head coach of the Titans until this article here so when Gruden speaks people listen

  15. Yes, of course.

    Vrabel’s success has everything to do with the patsies and not the man himself.

    The sense of entitlement and arrogance of patsy fans knows no bounds.

    Bray on, donkeys.

  16. tigerlilac says:
    March 1, 2018 at 7:21 am
    I am sure Vrabel knows he would not be where he is today without his experience with the Patriots which was a perfect fit for player, coach and team.
    Patriots need to find another underutilized linebacker and recreate similar results.

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    I’m not saying Van Noy is as good as Vrabel was, but the Patriots have done well with him. They made it to two Super Bowls with him and won a Super Bowl. He’s been a big contributor. I would say they found an underutilized linebacker and recreated good results. Maybe not similar, but good.

  17. 6thsense10 says: “Not too many players are going to want to give up their free time. And they definitely shouldn’t give it up without some concessions within the CBA.”
    ————————–

    The superstars won’t want to give it up, but the middle and bottom class certainly do. These players know they can’t improve and crack the lineup without the extra coaching and/or opportunity to show their stuff.

    Look at his Connor Cook example. As 3rd string QB, he probably got only 20-30 snaps all year in practices or OTAs before being thrust into a playoff game after Carr/McGloin got injured. Under previous CBA, Cook would’ve at least got a lot more coaching or practice time reps and would’ve been at least somewhat prepared for the game.

    The NFLPA should negotiate to allow players with less than 3 yrs experience or players appearing in less that 20% of previous year snaps to have extra coaching. Teams gets better players overall and these improved players can command a higher salary.

  18. 6thsense10 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 10:55 am
    akira554 says:
    March 1, 2018 at 8:31 am
    You guys don’t get it.
    Gruden is playing the long game.
    ——–
    Well Gruden must be playing the extra extra long game. Not too many players are going to want to give up their free time. And they definitely shouldn’t give it up without some concessions within the CBA.
    Because Lord knows if the shoe were the other side the owners wouldn’t give up a penny without concessions.

    ————-

    I feel differently… An executive in a corporation that was paid even 200K would have an expectation of basically 24×7 availability to be paid that salary. Often even during vacation.

    It’s a joke that a player could be paid 100 times that amount and have an expectation that they will not be contacted by their boss during the offseason.

    I think it’s idiotic.

  19. The superstars won’t want to give it up, but the middle and bottom class certainly do.
    **********************

    If this is true, then how was the NFLPA able to change the last CBA to require less contact and practice time? I’ll give you a hint – it’s because the players (all of them) want less practice time and contact, especially if they’re not being paid for it.

    It’s always about the money with the players – pay them more and they’ll do it.

  20. grumpysal says: “If this is true, then how was the NFLPA able to change the last CBA to require less contact and practice time?”
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    The union and the average players did not see the consequences.

    Look at what’s happened now with less coaching and practice. Star players will be star players – but the average class and the on-the-bubble guys are getting replaced by cheaper, younger guys. Why? Because they haven’t improved to the next level where there’s a big differential between them and the new college grads.

    Guys like QB Connor Cook realize they need coaching and reps to stay ahead of the raw, but cheaper labor coming in. As you said, it’s about the money – but they’re not getting the big, second NFL contract if they’re not much better than the new kid.

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