Rosenhaus: No timetable for Gronkowski decision

AP

It’s been nearly four weeks since Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski gave credence to retirement rumors by declining to commit to another season of football. He still hasn’t made a commitment. And it’s still not clear when he will.

Appearing on Friday’s PFT Live, agent Drew Rosenhaus said there’s no timetable for a decision from Gronkowski as to whether he’ll play this year.

Rosenhaus declined to comment on whether the Patriots have asked for a decision by a certain date. Surely, however, the Patriots want to know — indeed, need to know — what Gronkowski is going to do before free agency starts on March 14, especially since the Patriots owe tight end Martellus Bennett a $2 million roster bonus that same day.

The Patriots may not know what Gronkowski will do before free agency starts. They may not know before the draft starts. They may be wise to assume that they’ll be moving forward without him sooner than later, and to plan accordingly.

61 responses to “Rosenhaus: No timetable for Gronkowski decision

  1. Not a Pats fan, but It’s hard to not like Gronk.

    All joking aside- appears to be a decent guy. And if what yo read is true has been smart with his money.

    I honestly hope he walks, why would he keep playing? Won titles, won games. when it’s time it’s time.

  2. Another reason why it is important to re-sign Amendola. The Pats have shown they can win without Gronk. If he is tired of the Patriot Way, trade him for some draft picks.

  3. I love Gronk and appreciate all he has done. If he decides to step away for his health, I can’t blame him. WWE seems like a risky way to escape injury. He is becoming annoying with the tweets and cryptic stuff and his body slam on poor Tradaveous White was uncalled for. I wonder if the CTE is kicking in. The Pats won a Super Bowl with Marty Bennett, so if Gronk moves on they will be ok. I just He would let them know.

  4. Why would he continue? Because with a few more years he will cement himself as the greatest TE of all time. Even with 1 more injury-free all-pro level season and a SB win to cap it off, he should retire after that and will be the goat, reach 100 TD’s and break some records on the way out.

  5. .
    The Patriots have a straight up relationship with Rosenhaus. They did the Gronk incentive package last year which put another 5.5 million dollars in his pocket. I wouldn’t expect any shenanigans.
    .

  6. I, too, have an opinion on what a person I’ve never met should do in terms of both his vocation & health

  7. terripet says:
    March 2, 2018 at 9:52 am
    Gronkowski knows the cheaters are about to explode and that his quarterback is done

    ———

    And should know about when a QB is done considering you are a Colts fan

  8. terripet says:
    March 2, 2018 at 9:52 am
    Gronkowski knows the cheaters are about to explode and that his quarterback is done

    ————————————————–

    He threw for over 500 yards in his last game, coach.

  9. I dont think the WWE is less risky. A lot of guys there seem to get neck injuries. He is a great talent and even though I can’t stand the pats, he would be missed.

  10. I still think this is a smoke screen. The Patriots (and their fans) are all about false drama (or fake news, if you read PFT), right down to their weekly injury reports. I yawn every time I read something like this.

    That said, if he is serious, I say walk away. I get concerned about the injuries, the concussions. I am not a fan of Gronk and his over the top persona, but I am always a fan of players and their future health. He doesn’t need to work another day in his life, I do believe that things aren’t ok in New England, and his injury history tells me he might just be one of the lucky ones to get out before he has to face a lifetime of punch drunk and pain. That may just be a better decision.

  11. “Gronkowski knows the cheaters are about to explode and that his quarterback is done”

    Lolz yeah leading the lead in passing last season, being #3 overall in completions of 20+ yards in the air and #1 in completions of 40+ yards in the air is “done”

    SMH

  12. likuidsmoke says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:00 am
    Why would he continue? Because with a few more years he will cement himself as the greatest TE of all time. Even with 1 more injury-free all-pro level season and a SB win to cap it off, he should retire after that and will be the goat, reach 100 TD’s and break some records on the way out.

    Problem is you are assuming there is another SB in there. I am guessing you assumed there would be a SB this year as well, and there wasn’t. Is that chase worth his long term health? I think not.

    And no he wouldn’t cement himself as the greatest of all time. There is more to the game than rings, and his inability to stay on the field keeps him out of that distinction. He didn’t earn those rings; he was part of a team that earned those rings. Everyone on said team doesn’t get to be called the GOAT – and frankly the Patriots players are more like “Most Successful of All Time.” There have been better players at almost all positions. Kind of like saying Jordan was the best BBall player ever and forgetting Bill Russell’s 11 rings, Kareem’s scoring majesty, and a whole bunch of other records Jordan never attained.

  13. Seriously, what else did you think Rosehaus was going to say? He holds all the cards right now and there’s no need to indicate anything. The longer he waits, the higher the price gets on a contract extension/signing bonus. If Gronk retires or gets traded, then nothing lost.

  14. Hope Gronk comes back, if I were Pats I would even offer him a Clemens type deal where he just plays the second half of the year and the playoffs to avoid wear and tear. He’s too important both as a playmaker and as a magnet for defenders which opens up other receivers.

  15. only Gronk can comment of the toll the game has taken on his body. He has plenty of money, at least in my opinion maybe not his, and he has marketed himself beautifully. I personally think he comes back.

  16. And no he wouldn’t cement himself as the greatest of all time. There is more to the game than rings, and his inability to stay on the field keeps him out of that distinction. He didn’t earn those rings; he was part of a team that earned those rings. Everyone on said team doesn’t get to be called the GOAT – and frankly the Patriots players are more like “Most Successful of All Time.” There have been better players at almost all positions. Kind of like saying Jordan was the best BBall player ever and forgetting Bill Russell’s 11 rings, Kareem’s scoring majesty, and a whole bunch of other records Jordan never attained.
    =====================
    Well said. And that goes for Brady too as well as Gronk.

    Most Successful of all time, without a doubt. Not GOAT.

    Rings do not equate to all time greatness. Nobody is going to argue that Dilfer is greater than Marino even though Dilfer has a ring and Marino doesn’t. Brady is not GOAT, and there are lots of reasons for that. You can’t talk about Brady’s legacy without mentioning his wins. That’s who he is. You can’t talk about how Brady changed the sport and revolutionized how the position is played. He did not bring a cerebral element into the game (Manning did), he was not accurate like Manning, he is cool under pressure but not like Montana was, he never made plays like like Favre did, he did not revolutionize the passing game like Unitas did, he is tough but not like Snake Stabler, Favre and many others, and so on. All he’s known for is wins, titles, and longetivity, and that alone will get him into the HOF. Not his greatness at the position.

    There is one exception to the Patriots though. I do believe Coach Belichick has a real case for GOAT as a coach and that goes beyond the last 17 years. That’s another reason why Brady is not GOAT, it’s because his success can be directly linked to Coach Belichick. Perhaps if Brady did what Manning did and take another team to a championship away from Belichick I will probably reconsider. But not before.

  17. You might hate the Patriots, but your team has never and will never accomplish what the Patriots have.

    They will always reign supreme over your team. Even long after the present dynasty has entered the history books.

    You will always have to live with that.

  18. thisistheendifyouletit says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:34 am

    He deflated footballs!
    =================
    Anyone objective knows Brady ordered the deflator and his buddy to do it. No question about it. The texts say it all. I believe it was also done post inspection. Whether Brady ordered the deflator to go below the legal minimum is up for debate. That part I’m not nearly as sure about and knowing what we know about PSI and cold weather I believe it’s very possible that he stayed within the legal limit at the time.
    As a “crime” it’s like jaywalking.

    Now if they ordered the Colts footballs deflated too that would be a very different matter and should (and IMO probably would) result in a forfeiture of their title. Thankfully for the sake of the league that did not happen.

  19. He has the rings and he has the money. What is left to play for while continuing to put your body at risk?? Football now becomes boring when you have all of this. Some guys play too long chasing a ring and still never get it. Fans please understand “for the love of the game” only goes so far. Uncle Tom doesn’t have to worry about this playing QB. He doesn’t take anywhere near the punishment Gronk takes

  20. Gimme a break! That lughead is not retiring! This is an obvious ploy for more money so you Patriots fans need to calm down. He is playing you!

  21. The guy sure has been beat to hell on the field — if he’s made enough money I can certainly understand a desire to retire for health reasons. However, you have to wonder if most of the health damage is already done.

  22. I am an Eagles fan and can’t stand the Pats, but give me a break. Brady is the GOAT and it isn’t even a debate.

  23. I don’t think the Patriots should overreact here. If he wants permission to work with Guerrero, then work that out. They didn’t have to, but increased his pay last year considerably. If they get to the point where he doesn’t commit, but have to make a decision on Marty Bennett, then pay Marty and let Gronk know that he can play under his contract if he wants to play in 2018. That seems fair.

  24. Quit or play, Jesus he’s becoming a drama queen. I’m a Pats fan, but this is getting tiresome!

  25. Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 11:30 am
    thisistheendifyouletit says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:34 am

    He deflated footballs!
    =================
    Anyone objective knows Brady ordered the deflator and his buddy to do it. No question about it. The texts say it all. I believe it was also done post inspection. Whether Brady ordered the deflator to go below the legal minimum is up for debate. That part I’m not nearly as sure about and knowing what we know about PSI and cold weather I believe it’s very possible that he stayed within the legal limit at the time.
    As a “crime” it’s like jaywalking.

    Now if they ordered the Colts footballs deflated too that would be a very different matter and should (and IMO probably would) result in a forfeiture of their title. Thankfully for the sake of the league that did not happen.

    ————–

    How did the Colts balls get “deflated” and why were they not punished?

  26. reddzen says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:30 am
    likuidsmoke says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:00 am
    Why would he continue? Because with a few more years he will cement himself as the greatest TE of all time. Even with 1 more injury-free all-pro level season and a SB win to cap it off, he should retire after that and will be the goat, reach 100 TD’s and break some records on the way out.

    Problem is you are assuming there is another SB in there. I am guessing you assumed there would be a SB this year as well, and there wasn’t.

    ————

    Nobody assumes a SB except in Pittsburgh (who assumes it every year and blames it on something other than themselves each time it doesnt happen). But the fact remains that the best chance of winning a Superbowl does come from playing for the Patriots. Obviously there are never sure bets, only best chances, and that is in NE.

  27. thisistheendifyouletit says:
    March 2, 2018 at 10:34 am

    He deflated footballs!
    =================
    Anyone objective knows Brady ordered the deflator and his buddy to do it. No question about it.

    Finally, a witness! Tell us exactly how it was phrased since you have no question about it.

  28. Dropkick67 says:
    March 2, 2018 at 11:58 am
    Quit or play, Jesus he’s becoming a drama queen. I’m a Pats fan, but this is getting tiresome!

    ——————
    This stuff hasnt been coming from Gronk. Its been sportwriters and such rattling around trying to find out what Gronk might ge thinking and writing dons of articles speculationg based on anything they can think of or sometimes just thin air. Understood that its been noisy, but every one of us has the right to tune out and skip the articles if we dont like the noise.

  29. Braz: your 11:13 post.

    I’ll keep this short.

    2002 SB – the drive to get the winning field goal that Madden said “gave me goosebumps.”
    Overall in his career 54 (and counting) 4th quarter come-from behind games to win.
    2015 SB – 10 points down beginning the 4th quarter – win.
    2017 SB – The greatest comeback in SB history – ot win.

    What is it about those accomplishments that you don’t understand?

    “You can’t talk about Brady’s legacy without mentioning his wins. That’s who he is.” You seem to have a problem with that.

    FYI – I am a huge fan of Johnny U. and watched the greatest game ever played on a b&w tv about the size of my thumbnail and screamed my (young) silly head off.

    The “cerebral” element that Manning brought into the game – please expand on that.

    Tough – he is still playing at 40 and still taking world-class hits and throwing for 500 yards in the Super-Dooper Bowl.

    “He never made plays like Favre did.” Really? And he also didn’t throw as many game-LOSING interceptions in championship games as Favre did. The one that stands out is the one in the NFC championship game of 2008.

    “Cool under pressure but not like Montana was.” Tom terrific v. Joe cool. Good argument – let’s meet for some wine and cheese sometime and have a good discussion over that one.

  30. Ken Davis says:
    March 2, 2018 at 11:48 am

    I am an Eagles fan and can’t stand the Pats, but give me a break. Brady is the GOAT and it isn’t even a debate.

    ===============
    Brady is MSOAT (Most Successful of all time) as a QB. *That* is not up for debate. GOAT? That most certainly is.

    Success, wins and titles are team accomplishments, not QB accomplishments. Hence the difference between MSOAT and GOAT. People will remember Brady for his success (again…team accomplishment). He will not be remembered for for how great he is as a QB on the field. Guys like Manning, Unitas, Montana, Favre and so on are remember for how great they played the position. They changed the game.

    Brady didn’t. He’s great but he ain’t GOAT great.

  31. Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.

    Not so easy is it? I can do it very easily for Peyton Manning. Can you for Brady?

    For someone who is supposedly GOAT… this should be a very easy exercise. And yet it isn’t when you’re talking about Brady. Go figure.

  32. Give him the time he needs to decide. I mean you don’t want to pile on the guy! He may be feeling down and you don’t wan’t to hit a guy while he is down. If he is interfered with we don’t want him taking it out on the wrong guy. So let Gronk be.

  33. I think whats being missed here is that Gronk does not owe an announcement to the public. The media and fans talk like they actually think he does. In fact, everyone is talking about ‘his decision’ but there may not even be a decision on the table, that is currently just another assumption made by outsiders. He is currently under contract and might be planning of just go forward with his contract and career as already outlined just like any of us are currently planning on going to work next Monday. As with any of us something could come up between now and then, and we would respond at that time, but otherwise we are not going to be reassuring anyone of that intention or making announcements to that effect. We will just do it.

    Maybe we should all chill until camp starts and see if he is there.

    Note, if he does say something to his employer behind doors dont expect them to announce it either. They are not required to and its certainly their nature to not share anything they dont have to. Maybe this has even happened.

  34. 1historian says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Braz: your 11:13 post.

    I’ll keep this short.

    2002 SB – the drive to get the winning field goal that Madden said “gave me goosebumps.”
    =============================
    Brady had an 86 passer rating in that game and until that drive had less than 100 yards passing. Vinatieri deserved MVP in that game not Brady. Please don’t use that game as evidence of Brady’s greatness because it does not help your case.

    Overall in his career 54 (and counting) 4th quarter come-from behind games to win.
    2015 SB – 10 points down beginning the 4th quarter – win.
    2017 SB – The greatest comeback in SB history – ot win.

    What is it about those accomplishments that you don’t understand?
    ==============================
    I don’t understand why people think wins are a QB stat when they are a TEAM accomplishment. If you’re going to credit Brady for wins, then it’s only fair to “credit” him for losses too, like when he was trash in both Super Bowls against the Giants. Can’t have it both ways. And of course it was Malcolm Butler who got you the win against Seattle and Donta Hightower and the Pat defense and bungling playcalling that allowed your team to come back against the Falcons. Brady did what he had to do but again… wins, success, titles are a TEAM stat not a QB stat. Always was, is, and always will be.

    “You can’t talk about Brady’s legacy without mentioning his wins. That’s who he is.” You seem to have a problem with that.
    ====================
    I don’t. But see my response above.

    The “cerebral” element that Manning brought into the game – please expand on that.
    =====================
    Nobody touched Manning when it came to being cerebral. It is that attribute that made him what he is. He called his own plays, he knew all of his plays and all the opponents plays and called them at the line accordingly and unlike Brady he didn’t benefit from his coaching. He changed the position forever. You know who said he wanted to be as cerebral as Manning was? Tom Brady. Go figure.

    Tough – he is still playing at 40 and still taking world-class hits and throwing for 500 yards in the Super-Dooper Bowl.
    ======================================
    All of a sudden stats are important to Pat fan when they were laughing at Colts fans earlier in the 2000s for talking up Manning’s stats. Funny how that works. And yet Brady still took a big fat L and some of that is on him. Maybe he should have played better in the first half.

    “He never made plays like Favre did.” Really? And he also didn’t throw as many game-LOSING interceptions in championship games as Favre did. The one that stands out is the one in the NFC championship game of 2008.
    ========================================================
    I never said Favre was perfect and nobody is calling him GOAT. But it’s accurate to say he changed the way the position is played. His mobility, his arm, his toughness was a mold of QBs to come.

    And Montana never took an L in a Super Bowl. Yes L’s are as much a team stat as wins are, but Montana was great in all his Super Bowls. Brady… not so much.

  35. Stick a fork in them the Pats run is over
    ===========================================
    Nope, the Pats still play in the AFC Least so they will be fine.

    But I suspect it won’t be the Least for much longer in which case you would be right in your assessment.

  36. Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.

    Not so easy is it? I can do it very easily for Peyton Manning. Can you for Brady?

    For someone who is supposedly GOAT… this should be a very easy exercise. And yet it isn’t when you’re talking about Brady. Go figure.

    ————————-
    Without his wins or titles? Do you know what the object of playing sports is?

    What you are saying is you cant stand admitting he is the GOAT so you want to ignore all the proof of why he is GOAT so you can try to convince yourself he isnt.

  37. Wellman says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.

    Not so easy is it? I can do it very easily for Peyton Manning. Can you for Brady?

    For someone who is supposedly GOAT… this should be a very easy exercise. And yet it isn’t when you’re talking about Brady. Go figure.

    ————————-
    Without his wins or titles? Do you know what the object of playing sports is?

    What you are saying is you cant stand admitting he is the GOAT so you want to ignore all the proof of why he is GOAT so you can try to convince yourself he isnt.

    ==========================
    So I take it you’re agreeing with me that wins are a team accomplishment, the Patriots are a great team and they win a lot and Brady just happens to be their QB. I can roll with that. Just don’t tell me to call him GOAT.

    MSOAT, yes. GOAT, no.

  38. Braz says:

    March 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.
    Not so easy is it
    ______________
    Seriously? It’s very easy, just check out his career stats.

  39. Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    And Montana never took an L in a Super Bowl. Yes L’s are as much a team stat as wins are, but Montana was great in all his Super Bowls. Brady… not so much.

    ——————
    Russel Wilson never lost a superbowl. Geno Smith never lost a superbowl.

    You know a guy is just making up empty stuff when he starts arguing someones superbowl losses against guys failures to even get to the
    Superbowl like that somehow means they did better.

  40. Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Challenge to Pat fan Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.
    ——————————

    Tom Brady has thrown for over 66,000 yards and has almost 488 TD passes…in the regular season alone.

    Slam dunk first ballot HOFer on regular season stats alone.

    Challenge accepted by Pats fan.
    Challenge won by Pats fan.

    We do not win always, but we win often.

  41. Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.
    Not so easy is it
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    He is top 5 in almost every QB category measurable and by the time he retires, he will likely be the sole owner of many of those records, including TDs, yards, etc. He also holds almost every playoff passing record measured for a QB. He is a 3-time MVP winner and 4-time SB MVP winner. Take away wins and titles and he is a surefire first ballot HOF’er. How is that not clear?

    We get it, you are a big Manning guy and can’t believe this 6th round pick out of nowhere surpassed the anointed one, but that’s where we are. FYI – Brady has a better INT% and overall QB rating than Manning. He is only 0.2% lower in TD %. Brady has the stats and hardware to prove it all.

    Spare me the Pats fans don’t care about stats and made fun of Colts fans. You asked a question where the only thing we could do is analyze stats and they tell the story.

  42. Drew is trying to get more money for his client. Evidently, he thinks a often hurt Gronk is worth more than 8 million in 2018 and 9 million in 2019. His game is so transparent.

  43. Braz says:
    So I take it you’re agreeing with me that wins are a team accomplishment, the Patriots are a great team and they win a lot and Brady just happens to be their QB. I can roll with that. Just don’t tell me to call him GOAT.

    MSOAT, yes. GOAT, no.

    =================================================

    That would hold up if not for the fact Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting. And 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl

  44. What Gronk is doing is straight out of Drew’s book….

    Negotiate hard, make it clear that player could and will “hold-out” and/or default on contract.

  45. Braz says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.

    Not so easy is it? I can do it very easily for Peyton Manning. Can you for Brady?

    For someone who is supposedly GOAT… this should be a very easy exercise. And yet it isn’t when you’re talking about Brady. Go figure.

    ————-

    Unless we are talking about golf or bowling, ALL stats are team stats. A QB needs 10 other players around him to run a single play. As well as a defense. why we would not want to consider wins…..hmmmmm….ok.

    How about this: by the time Brady retires he will either be #1 or in the top 5 for pretty much every relevant passing statistic we track for NFL QBs. Total Yardage, TDs, Completions, TD/Int ratio. Those alone are HOF worthy. With the wins, he could get an entirely separate guy elected to the HOF as well. So I guess they will need to give him two jackets.

  46. Perfect trade. Gronk for Engram. Gronk would get to be with another Diva in New York. He could perform with the WWE part-time and/or star in WWE backed movies.

    Engram would teaam up with Bennett at TE. Engram’s contract is controlled for at least three more years. NE would be able to retool with the increase in salary cap space.

  47. I guess I look at this and say that when the OP discusses Brady he compares him to the aspects of a number of QBs but none of those QBs possess all the elementsofo what makes Favre,Unitas, Manning, Marino, Montana so great. comparing Brady to each of them in a specific area means to me that Brady may not be the best in each category but taken as a package, he outdistances all of those mentioned

  48. cadreamer1969 says:
    March 2, 2018 at 4:09 pm
    Perfect trade. Gronk for Engram.
    —————————————

    That might be okay if you included the part where the Pats also get the Giants 1st and 3rd round pick in this year’s draft, and 2nd round pick in next year’s draft.

  49. zero case for manning in the company of bradshaw or montana, let alone the Great One. he just always choked in the biggest moments. like terry said if you want to win the easy games, he’s fine, plus could never play in weather. manning has zero championship game performances, brady has 8!

  50. If you want to know who the most sure people are that Brady is the GOAT just look for whoever is going on every Pats article and working up every argument they can think of to deny it. Anyone that works at it that hard is trying to convince themselves Brady isnt the GOAT, but they cant is why they have to keep working at it.

  51. Challenge to Pat fan: Make a case for Tom Brady for Hall of Fame… WITHOUT mentioning his wins and titles.

    Not so easy is it? I can do it very easily for Peyton Manning. Can you for Brady?
    ———

    Oh that’s convenient. Let’s take away a major part of his career that makes Brady head and shoulders above Manning and then compare them.

    Genius!!!!

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