Saquon Barkley runs very fast, and very well

AP

As it turns out, this Saquon Barkley kid may have a future.

The Penn State running back has all the tape anyone needs to see, but has put up strong numbers at the Scouting Combine to convince any skeptics who might still exist.

Barkley just logged an unofficial 4.41-second 40-yard dash, a blazing time for a guy who weighed in at 233 pounds. For comparison, last year’s top back, Leonard Fournette, ran a 4.51 at 240 pounds.

Barkley also had a 41-inch vertical earlier today, showing the kind of explosiveness that you’d suspect if you’d see him run.

Despite the persistent “running backs are devalued” chorus, he’s expected to go quite high in this year’s draft, and he’ll tempt the Giants at No. 2 if not the Browns with the top spot.

“The bottom line is, is the guy a football player?” Giants General Manager Dave Gettleman said earlier this week. “This whole myth of devaluing running backs, I find it kind of comical. At the end of the day, if he’s a great player he’s a great player. It doesn’t matter what position it is. But the other thing, sometimes, listening to Pat (Shurmur), sometimes I think it gets lost in the sauce that football is the ultimate team game. You blow a whistle and 11 guys have to go out there, both offense and defense and special teams.

“Everybody has to understand that every player is important. That’s why when you are looking at the second pick in the draft like we are, the first thing we have to determine is: Is this guy worthy of being the second pick of any draft? Not just this year’s draft, but any draft? And then you make that determination and you move forward. Position? If he’s a great player I don’t care how stacked we are at that position, we’re taking him. It’s all about accumulating talent.”

While the Giants have to consider finding a long-term replacement for Eli Manning, they might be better served putting a potential game-changing runner with him to maximize the years he has left.

53 responses to “Saquon Barkley runs very fast, and very well

  1. It’s funny…the combine is built to impress from a physical nature standpoint, but when it happens, it’s as if it shouldn’t…

  2. Gentleman: “That’s why when you are looking at the second pick in the draft like we are, the first thing we have to determine is: Is this guy worthy of being the second pick of any draft? Not just this year’s draft, but any draft? And then you make that determination and you move forward.”

    Hmmm. So if a player is the second best player in this draft but wouldn’t be the second best player in another draft, who do you take instead in this draft if you have the second pick?

    Giants seem to be in good hands….

  3. He’s an amazing athlete – zero doubt about it.
    PSU’s offense with him seemed to be all about home runs and virtually nothing about him being a workhorse/grinder.
    His athleticism says he belongs but I’m not convinced that = high productivity in a conventional manner.

  4. As an Eagles fan I pray that the Giants either don’t get the chance to draft Barkley, or even better pass on him. I have watched this kid for years and he is a game changer. Better than Elliot. Best running back to enter the draft in the last 5 years hands down.And a high character kid with a great attitude and mind.

  5. Its not so much that the draft devalues RB’s, its just that a RB, no matter how talented he may be, does not swing games like a great franchise QB. The Vikings are living proof that despite having the best RB in the NFL for many years, still only won one playoff game with Peterson. Ok, they don’t win too many playoff games anyway but the point is still valid.

  6. The entire evaluation process is a giant science project ..millions upon millions invested & you’re just as likely to select a bust as a star. Great game tape/college production doesn’t guarantee NFL success, nor do Combine results. Nobody could’ve told me that Reggie Bush wasn’t going to become a HOF running back when he was dominating at USC & he turned out to be mediocre at best in the NFL. Nobody knows.

  7. “This guy looks like a can’t miss prospect, I don’t see the Browns passing him up if they keep their #1 pick.”

    Haha really? It’s the Browns…

  8. Their careers have absolutely nothing to do with him but I keep thinking of Ki-Jana Carter and Curtis Enis when I read about Barkley. Heck even Larry Johnson played at Penn State.

  9. Browns should draft a RB 1st because they do well when they go that route. Oh, wait! Er, um, they better go with a QB 1st because…screw it, go for a punter.

  10. Barkley is the gem of this draft, and if you are not convinced of that, then you have not watched enough tape on him. Go do it. It won’t be long before your mind is changed. Even when teams stacked the box to stop the run, Penn State would send him in motion and Barkley would beat them as a receiver. Pass him in the draft and weep for ten years.

  11. Barkley @1 and Josh Allen @ 4 would make the Browns look like they know what they are doing.

  12. Giants were hoping David Wilson was going to be the featured RB for many years – insanely fast on both running plays and kickoff returns. Unfortunately, he had the neck injury that ended his career way too soon. But while a Barkley would be a nice addition to the offensive weapons arsenal, the Giants still need an O-line to make anything work on offense. Dallas showed what a top O-line can do – if they have blocking, the skill players can perform.

  13. So he’s a little slower than Reggie Bush’s 4.33 and they did the bench press the same amount of times………

  14. cobrala2 says:
    March 2, 2018 at 1:58 pm
    He’s an amazing athlete – zero doubt about it.
    PSU’s offense with him seemed to be all about home runs and virtually nothing about him being a workhorse/grinder.
    His athleticism says he belongs but I’m not convinced that = high productivity in a conventional manner.
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    Yeah, if you watched any games Barkley played, teams either tried to surround him with 2-3 defenders, or they couldn’t stop him and it was a home run. NFL teams will not be able to double/triple team him on a regular basis, otherwise they will leave themselves open to being beat by other players. So, defenses will have to rely on great open field tackling techniques to bring Barkley down, or else they will get burnt by him for a long run. I think the closest comparison to a former player would be to Bo Jackson. Some may forget how great he was prior to him being injured and then deciding to concentrate on baseball, but if Jackson had committed full-time to football, he may have become the best RB of all-time.

  15. If the Browns take Barkley the NYG take Nelson.
    Otherwise Barkley will be a NYG.
    Gettleman and Shurmur keep insinuating they are open to all options and that translates to breaking the perceived normal spots for player positions as related to the draft.
    If anyone saw Nelson at the Combine he not only has the strength and feet to be devastating inside he absolutely looks like a terror if he has to pull and use his momentum and speed.

  16. Browns will get him @4….ny and Indy are bluffing…they have serious issues to address before drafting a top 5 RB IMHO…both teams won more games than Hue’s brownies…when you have only won 1 game in two years, I would say Cleveland has serous issues to address…but that’s just my opinion…

  17. Imagine Barkley on a team like Green Bay…..Houston…..or Seattle. You could almost pencil one of those 3 in the Super Bowl if their QB/RB combination stayed upright all season.

  18. Everybody in the NFL is fast. How is his vision? Can he break tackles? Can he catch passes? Can he block? Speed might be the last thing I think about.

  19. As an Eagles fan I hope the Browns grab him at number 1 because I have a sinking feeling he isn’t getting past the Giants at number 2. He’d solve one of their most glaring needs and be a nightmare for opposing defenses! I don’t want the Eagles having to face him twice a season! Although with the Eagles D-line vs the Giants O-line it should still be to the Eagles advantage.

  20. Said the same things about Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter and Curtis Enis. Don’t care if he’s the next Adrian Peterson, how many rings do stud RBs get? When’s the last time a stud RB ran his team to the Lombardi? Need that next 15 year QB. Take one G-Men and be done.

  21. Trent Richardson (2012) was ranked 97/100 as a prospect.
    Saquon Barkley is ranked 95/100.

    So…I think we can assume the Browns will not be using the No. 1 overall on this or any running back. Thank goodness.

  22. Great RB’s are fun to watch. Unfortunately, the NFL rules have been changed over the last 30 years to favor the passing game. The teams that have been winning super bowls lately, are doing it with free agent RB’s. Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt were fun to watch too, and they led their NFL teams into the playoffs as rookies. However, they lasted until the 3rd round because they ran slow 40 yard dash times at the combine last year. I’m amazed that NFL owners allow their personnel executives to waste so much time on this stuff. You can see who’s going to be a good NFL player by watching tape. After all, you’re drafting them to play football, not run in track meets.

  23. whatjusthapped says:

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    Ok, they don’t win too many playoff games anyway but the point is still valid.
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    Nah… Just 10th all time in total playoff wins. That’s all….

  24. If you run really really really fast into a 350-pound lineman it only means you get tackled .03 seconds faster than the next fastest guy. You can “explode” into it and it makes an even bigger sound as he throws you to the ground.

    Trent Richardson ran very fast and very well in college.

    QB at No. 1, please Dorsey.

  25. Bo Jackson? Bo was around a 4.3 guy. He had another gear that hasn’t been seen since for someone his size. I don’t think the younger crowd here appreciates or knows (Bo knows) just what an athletic freak he was and how he dominated on the field.

  26. Sure a lot of interest and comments from the “NFL is dying” crowd on here. 90% of the clowns posting on here were commenting all season how mark cuban was right etc, pretty comical stuff

  27. Sorry guys but Barkley is no Ezekiel Elliot. He disappeared the second half of the season when the competition got tougher. Zeke demolished Nick Saban’s defense in the playoffs. I would not use the top pick on Barkley. But then again we are talking about the Browns.

  28. granadafan says:

    March 2, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    Bo Jackson? Bo was around a 4.3 guy. He had another gear that hasn’t been seen since for someone his size. I don’t think the younger crowd here appreciates or knows (Bo knows) just what an athletic freak he was and how he dominated on the field.
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    I’ll second that. Bo is the best RB I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching college and Pro football for about 50 years. I’ve only seen highlights of Jim Brown, so I can’t include him, but other than Brown, nobody can touch Bo Jackson. An injury cut his career short.

  29. jackedupboonie says:
    March 2, 2018 at 3:15 pm
    Imagine Barkley on a team like Green Bay…..Houston…..or Seattle. You could almost pencil one of those 3 in the Super Bowl if their QB/RB combination stayed upright all season.

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    On a team like GB?? I suppose, it may be good, the pack will have to score 50 a game with that defense to win though.

  30. You’d think taking Joe Thomas was the one time the Browns didn’t blow a first round pick…until you realize they passed on Adrian Peterson to take him.
    A Left tackle is only valuable if you have a QB worth protecting.

  31. imarkferg says:
    March 2, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    Best running back to enter the draft in the last 15 years hands down.And a high character kid with a great attitude and mind.
    ——-
    Seriously, this kid is a once in a decade talent. He has a great work ethic, good hands and is a willing blocker. He’s literally is a prototypical 3 down back. Unless injuries derail him, I don’t see how he won’t be an outstanding NFL player.

  32. If I’m the Browns I take Mayfield at 1 and hope for Barkley @ 4. But this is the same team (The Browns) who had Miles Garret at #1 and passed on Deshone Watson and traded down. I could have kicked my tv in and when Houston then took Watson. I turned the television. You would have had to young studs that could have led this team for decades but they blew it and YES, I was art the 0 – 16 parade with temperature in the low teen’s next to Lake Erie. We were so angry and pissed we didn’t care about the weather. They can’t afford to screw this up. Address the defense with free agents.

  33. I can’t believe teams have passed on hiring you guys. Knowing how a prospect is gonna pan out in the NFL, ‘hands down’. Wow, a rare talent indeed.

  34. Dear Browns: there are 3 really good QB prospects in the draft. Only one RB that IMO ( and many others) is the best game changing RB since Todd Gurley. If you do what your supposed to..Draft Barkley at #1. Then with the 4th pick you’re guaranteed one if the top 3 QBs..( simple math) pass on Barkley is like passing on Wentz, Russell Wilson, Prescott, ect. You owe it to your fans to start building a winning team and pull your head out of your butts

  35. I love how people are freaking out about this kid and back in the day Clowney, when back in the day, despite being bigger people, Fred Taylor and Jevon Kearse ran a 4.29 and 4.4, respectively.

  36. Look, I think Barkley will be a good NFL player, but the critical point has already been made above- Trent Richardson was also a “can’t miss” prospect. There are simply no guarantees in the draft.

  37. Taking him first would be downright foolish! How many backs will hit homeruns every time? Very few and as mentioned, that in itself will not get you far. Let’s be pragmatic, get a QB at 1, or 4 or even both. QBs have value and they can’t afford to miss again. From there build out your O and D lines. If you don’t take two QBs then you need a game changing D Lineman or shut down OLineman. Productive RBs can be found in later rounds of the draft- they’re a dime a dozen. Whatever you do Browns- don’t be cute.

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