Report: Jets fear Kirk Cousins is heading to the Vikings

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Then there were four. Eventually there will be one. And one of the four thinks the one will be the Vikings.

Ralph Vacchiano of SNY reports that the Jets are taking the Minnesota threat seriously “after some informal, preliminary talks with his camp this week.”

Yes, informal, preliminary talks technically are prohibited. But they happen, every year involving every team. Any team that isn’t doing it has put itself at a competitive disadvantage. So if the Jets have had informal, preliminary talks with the Cousins camp, the Vikings have, too, and the planets are starting to align as to the quarterback’s future.

The Jets, per Vacchiano, have heard enough to move on to “Plans B and C and, if possibly D” at quarterback. Although the Jets believe, per Vacchiano, that they can offer more money and a better structure to Cousins, the Jets fear that Cousins would take less to go to Minnesota for a better chance to win.

In a Super Bowl week visit to PFT Live, Cousins spoke about the balance between taking less to win and getting full and fair franchise quarterback compensation.

The Vikings continue to be the ultimate wild card in the coming quarterback chase. With three of their own unrestricted free agents on the roster and multiple other options elsewhere (Cousins, A.J. McCarron, and theoretically Drew Brees), the Vikings have plenty of choices. The problem is that they eventually choose one, at the exclusion of all others.

Vikings G.M. Rick Spielman recently joined PFT Live to discuss the situation. Watch the interview and search for clues. For example, when Spielman says they plan to make a decision by March 14, does that mean they’re leaning toward re-signing one of their own? Or would they do a Brock Osweiler-style sight-unseen deal with someone they don’t know?

Spielman regards the situation as more blessing than curse, but there could be plenty of cursing if they pick the wrong guy — and if the guys they don’t pick end up thriving elsewhere.

140 responses to “Report: Jets fear Kirk Cousins is heading to the Vikings

  1. You’re right Florio. These talks happen every year and with every team. The league should just do away with the rule. But like people still complaining about salary cap violations from a decade ago, someone will still say this is cheating. I think the rule is outdated and unnecessary. This isn’t cheating. Good call.

    That said, I still don’t know that KC to MC is a good move. Their cap hit would be immense, which always causes a problem, but more important I am sorry, I don’t think he is a game changer at $30MM a year. Maybe he is workable with that defense, but so is Case Keenum, who comes a lot cheaper. I get that someone is going to pay him, but it should be a cap strong, QB hungry team.

  2. So they lose out on the opportunity to make the 14th or so best QB the highest paid player in the sport? Cousins would make the Jets better but if true this is a blessing in disguise

  3. Why would he wanna play for a non contender when he can play for a contending team that will pay him only a little less ? Cousins would also become a better QB with the weapons around him and better coaching which his progression would lead to more money with his next next contract.

  4. If Rick Spielman can sign Cousins for substantially less than he could get elsewhere while still retaining his other big-time players that need new contracts, he really is a magician. And that’s the only way Cousins would be worth it.

  5. Cousins is not in the super elite status of Brees or Rodgers but is he better than what they have or what is available? Bradford is clearly better but is a shaky bet to not go down with a season ending injury yet again. TBW is a complete unknown at this point. So it gets down to what they think about Keenum, will he repeat what he did last year? I do believe that Defilippo has the ability to correctly analyze Cousins and Keenum to make the right choice.

  6. Where Cousins Chooses will say what he is all about, The Jets
    Would be just about the money and an NY media attention. I
    See zero opportunity in Arizona, less money, Average team. I
    Think the dominate defense days in Denver are Aging and shorter contract
    and less money. I think for someone who wants to win Now that
    Vikings are the clear choice they have 48 million in cap space so ..

  7. Cousins is Fools Gold…..If Cousins wanted to create a legacy..Be seen as a Winner,he’d go to Cleveland..NOT a Cleveland homer But if your as Good as u Think..Being Paid…Turn around a franchise..I Hope Cleveland uses their picks wisely…SCREW COUSINS.NOT WORTH IT !!!!! Take Barkley then best Qb …build Offensive line !!!!!!

  8. Are the vikes trying to beat the Browns at most number of starting QB’s in the last 10 years? Pick a guy and stick with him.

  9. I’m willing to bet that Cousins hasn’t made any decision and that when they approached the Cousins team, they were told what another team was thinking about offering, and in an attempt to negotiate in the press (because they can’t directly) they are pretending that they are moving on to a different option.

  10. Cousins can throw a receiver open. Keenum can’t. There were a few games the Vikings should have buried teams and they couldn’t because of Keenums limitations. Cousins won’t miss those open deep receivers. I would feel ok paying him around $28 to $30 millio a year because he might make the offense top 5. If they have to pay Keenum anywhere around $20 million I would be disgusted.

  11. Cousins spoke about the balance between taking less to win and getting full and fair franchise quarterback compensation.

    I’m sure many will disagree but I’m not convinced Cousins is indeed a franchise QB. He also turns 30 in August so any long-term deal needs to take that into consideration. Can he make a team better? Yes, if they have a need at QB. Can he take a team over the top? Maybe he can at Minnesota or Denver. He has to have a really good supporting cast because in my opinion, he can’t carry a team like a true franchise QB can.

    I would not be surprised if some team opens the bank for him and is disappointed in the return on their investment.

  12. My guess is that Cousins lands in Denver. I doubt the Vikings are willing to sacrifice the team for a single player. They are too much of a “team based” organization to go all in on one guy. Like I have said since the end of the season, Case will be the starter next season.

  13. Technically, it is currently tampering. Of course he already knows where he is going. The tampering has been going on for a while. I hope the Redskins file a grievance. Honestly, the blatant rule breaking is ridiculous and should be punished. OR change the rule.

  14. If those are the 4 teams he’s going to pick Denver for their history of winning. Takes a lot to get to the Super Bowl, takes even more to win it. Those other 3 franchises have no idea how to win the big game. Elway is a seasoned winner in both arenas, player and front office.

  15. I think Kirk is getting real annoying right now just think about this,, this guys name is Kirk Cousins sign with a team already would ya this Kirk Cousins thing has been gone on for like three years now enough ,he’s an average quarterback !

  16. Da Bears have to fear that Cousins is headed to the Queens. With Rodgers, Cousins and Stafford in their division they do not have a chance in their division.

  17. If I were cousins agent, will it benefit me to leak stories like this? When this drive the offers up? These are always from-unnamed sources. Just seems like good business if not a little bit underhanded .

  18. If I’m Spielman, the only way I sign Cousins is if he agrees to a 20-23 mil a year deal. Anything more than that, then bring back Keenum and one of Bradford and Bridgewater.

  19. I hope Cousins goes to the Vikings. If he does, he’ll eat up an inordinate amount of the team’s cap, and they’ll need to cut some good veterans.

    I don’t see how Cousins raises the bar of QB play for Minny over and above the production they got this year. He’s not worth the money he’s going to get to sign.

  20. mnwilderness87 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 10:32 am
    My guess is that Cousins lands in Denver. I doubt the Vikings are willing to sacrifice the team for a single player. They are too much of a “team based” organization to go all in on one guy. Like I have said since the end of the season, Case will be the starter next season.
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    The time to produce for the Vikings is now. They have the right mix of vet and young talent and just need an above average QB. At some point you have to ‘stop building for the future’ and go for it. That said, getting a known commodity at qb is also a good play into the future.

    Zimmer and Spielman have both insinuated numerous times that they believe Case Keenum’s success could have been a fluke year in a great system. The guy doesn’t have the arm to be a starter, he’s a decent to good backup who thrived in a Qb friendly system in games where his team was rarely behind.

  21. Depending on what the Eagles want, I would be poking around getting Nick Foles. Superbowl winning QB, locked in to 7.5 mill this year which gives you a chance to evaluate him and if you can’t work out a long term deal you can still franchise him for less than Cousins is going to make.

  22. First off, Cousins is a good QB and worth all of this, his one of six guys to constantly throw our 4,100 yards these last three seasons. He did that too with a brand new core of WRs this year.
    Cousins has taken them to the playoffs.
    2015- over/under wins for the redskins was 6.5; they won 9 and the division.
    2016- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 8.
    2017- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 7.

    It’s not like his been out here playing with a bunch of pro bowlers! Bree’s has two pro bowl abs and lets no talk about Thomas or line play. Rodgers has 3 great WRs. Ryan has two star RBs and Julio. Only other guys doing their thing with not top end talent is Wilson and Stafford (in the NFC).

  23. Chemistry is an overlooked factor here. Cousins is a good QB, but Keenum and Bradford have already demonstrated great chemistry with the team and offensive players. You can’t create that if it’s not there, no matter how much you spend.

  24. If the only criticism people have of Cousins is pointing to the Redskins team success, then don’t bother. The Redskins were a bad TEAM, they didn’t not win because of Cousins, but because of the team around him.

    Even look at last year. They let his top 2 WRs walk out the door for nothing and replaced him with Pryor who was useless. They had no run game whatsoever. Almost their entire o-line was on IR. Their star TE can’t make 2 consecutive catches without re-injuring himself. And Cousins still put up top 10 numbers and was pretty much the only guy who even gave them a chance to win.

    This whole thing where people count playoff appearances, playoff wins, Super Bowls etc as one players individual stat or individual responsibility is just low hanging fruit for the most clueless of sports fans. This guy on the Vikings would absolutely put them over the top. Yeah Keenum helped get them into the playoffs, he was a very nice player for them up to that NFC Championship game. But if they had a better QB they might have actually been in, or won, the Super Bowl.

  25. Stu Bidaciou says:
    March 4, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Can someone remind me why Cousins is getting a big pay day? I din’t see the redskins make many playoffs with him.

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    Because he’s never had a complete team playing around him and still puts up top 10 QB numbers. Zero running game, depleted receiver options, average at best defense on the field when he’s not. I’m not saying he’s a Brady, Rodgers, or Brees, but many think he’s overrated. I’d say he’s more underrated.

  26. This is the funniest thing. Cousins 4-19 against teams with a winning record. 3rd out of 4th in his own division the last two years straight. 1-5 against teams in the division this year all for a hefty sum of $24 million. Congratulations Cousins on the raise. There are obviously a few of your followers who still after three years have the same hope they had for you after the 2015 year when the SKINS projected forward that Cousins could improve their win/loss record. That ended the exact same disappointment in 2016 and even worse in 2017. But Keep Hope Alive.

    Click thumbs up if that record deserves a raise on ANOTHER team. Cause Washington certainly did not think so.

  27. Again to all the people that ask why Kirk wasn’t a playoff Qb …… rb Robert Kelly, samanje Perine. Wr j crowder , t Pryor and Ryan grant. Te jordan reed plays 3 games a year. o line one good LT that was hurt for the season , defense well below average which made Kirk throw way more cause he was behind all the time and the head coach Jay grudges is a serious Butthead .Kirk hung up over 30 on the vikes after Chris Thompson got hurt with this garbage cast of a team . Sign this man right away he is an elite Qb with mobility that’s a great person and leader . Skol !

  28. Did I miss something or did Cousins play for the Redskins?
    Here’s the Wikipedia rundown of 2017…
    “the Redskins lost seven of the final twelve games after exiting the Week 5 bye with a 2-2 start, failed to improve on their 8–7–1 record from the previous season and were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs after losing to the Chargers.”
    So……all of that had to do with anyone other than the QB? A QB in a system devised by an offense-minded coach?
    Please…sign with the Vikings! You’ll be the third-best QB in the NFC North!

  29. 9 4 Rate This
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    March 4, 2018 at 10:31 am
    Cousins can throw a receiver open. Keenum can’t. There were a few games the Vikings should have buried teams and they couldn’t because of Keenums limitations. Cousins won’t miss those open deep receivers. I would feel ok paying him around $28 to $30 millio a year because he might make the offense top 5. If they have to pay Keenum anywhere around $20 million I would be disguste
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    Top 5 in passing yards, yes. That is his goal anyway. Unfortunately, in his quest to attain the 4000 yard marker annually, he passes and checks down when he should be going deep or even handing off. Not to mention the untimely boneheaded picks against the better teams. As a result he is 4-19 against teams with a winning record. He is who his record says he is. A regular season QB. And contrary to popular belief, the Redskins had some ballers on their team, too bad they had to let a few of them go to pay this guy.

  30. eagleswin – there is NO REASON for the Eagles to trade Foles.

    They paid him a very high backup salary, AND paid millions to Chase Daniels to go away to make room for him in the process. They specifically wanted a premium QB insurance policy during Wentz’ cheaper rookie deal years. So now, with Wentz still rehabbing major injury, with no guarantees he’s 100% for week 1 (or for that matter, still 100% by week 17), after that insurance policy has proven to be more valuable than they could have possibly imagined, when they probably need it now more than ever…..why would they suddenly cheap out and decide to get rid of it? Is a 2nd rd pick more valuable than potentially relying on Nate Sudfeld to defend your Super Bowl Championship in the playoffs?

    They will find cap relief somewhere else in the roster. They need Foles more this year than they did last year. And if they were willing to pay premium price to have him last year, why would that be different now?

  31. wjmoffatt says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:06 am
    First off, Cousins is a good QB and worth all of this, his one of six guys to constantly throw our 4,100 yards these last three seasons. He did that too with a brand new core of WRs this year.
    Cousins has taken them to the playoffs.
    2015- over/under wins for the redskins was 6.5; they won 9 and the division.
    2016- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 8.
    2017- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 7.
    It’s not like his been out here playing with a bunch of pro bowlers! Bree’s has two pro bowl abs and lets no talk about Thomas or line play. Rodgers has 3 great WRs. Ryan has two star RBs and Julio. Only other guys doing their thing with not top end talent is Wilson and Stafford (in the NFC).
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    How many of those wins got them into the playoffs ?? He may not have been throwing to HOF receivers, but they were very serviceable and the NFC east is not exactly a powerhouse division !!! Cousins is NO way worth the money hes asking. The Redskins tagging him like they did only drove up his fantasy contract value !

  32. As usual, the Vikings will confidently make the worst decision possible. Keeping Case Keenum would be the best decision, since he’s a proven commodity and already knows the system. Cousins is a proven failure as he has shown time and time again. So of course, the Vikings will go all in on Cousins and go 5-11 next season. Write it down.

  33. Anyone who ever stamps the end of their comment with “book it” or “bank it” or “mark it” or “write it down” usually have no clue what they’re talking about.

  34. It becomes more evident as time goes by that a lot of people do not understand the difference between ability and market economics. How good is Kirk Cousins is not the whole story its about how much any business (Team) is prepared to pay him to secure his services. The more that are interested the higher his value goes. It is a very basic principle.

    As to those people who expect him to play for less in order to be ‘Successful’ 95% of people in the work place will always go for the higher paid job. Sure some people are happy where they work and some extra money is not worth it in their opinion or circumstances. To say ‘we will see what his character is about’ based on if he settles for less than he could get is a false statement. Super Bowl opportunities rank high with some players with others success means maximizing their financial situation its a personal choice not a ‘flawed or greedy personality’

    For my part I think Cousins is a very good QB, is he a Rodgers, Brady or Brees? No he is not but he is in the next tier of QB’s and that is good enough to get him a huge pay day.

  35. As an AVID Packer Fan, I hope Minn does sign Cousins.
    1st, he’s not an elite QB. Go check his stats. He wasn’t a top 10 QB in passer ratings. He threw 13 picks. Go ahead and pay $30 mil/yr.
    When your core players come up for new contracts you’re going to wish you had some cap room but it all went to Cousins.

  36. I’m not completely sold on KC either but we also have to take into account the dysfunction of the organization and how bad the team was … Maybe with a better organization and team he will really surprise us !!!

  37. mnwilderness87 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 10:32 am
    My guess is that Cousins lands in Denver. I doubt the Vikings are willing to sacrifice the team for a single player. They are too much of a “team based” organization to go all in on one guy. Like I have said since the end of the season, Case will be the starter next season.

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    I’m happy for Case and the season he had, however Cousins is a proven starter for multiple years with really limited talent around him. Case is a journeyman who had one year of success because of the players around him. If it comes down to Case for 15 to 20 per year, or Cousins for hopeully around 25 per year, I think you go with the proven starter!

  38. Is a 26-30 Cousins going to be able to play much better than that 13-3 Keenum? Is QB play the reason they lost in the playoffs (pretty much every year but last year – sure).

    Putting Cousins on a team for what will look like an NBA max type of deal where his play isn’t a tier or two ABOVE what you already have is stupidity. All it does is keep the team from fixing a defense that gave up 38 points in a playoff game. Same defense that admitted to a few years ago simply ignoring coaching and game plans against Jordy Nelson and the Packers.

    Cousins isn’t good enough to make up for that. Not above Keenum. And Keenum’s price tag would be a lot less to allow them to make the changes they still need to make on D.

    And spare me the “we were ranked #1 and just had a bad game” line – you were ranked #1 but played absolutely ZERO offensive juggernauts. Your #1 D gave up the exact same points as the Patriots D did to the same offense and were the first ones talking about how bad that Pat’s D was under Patricia and how the Lions should re-thing their hire.

  39. CheeseisGoodforYou! says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:35 am

    As an AVID Packer Fan, I hope Minn does sign Cousins.
    1st, he’s not an elite QB. Go check his stats. He wasn’t a top 10 QB in passer ratings. He threw 13 picks. Go ahead and pay $30 mil/yr.
    When your core players come up for new contracts you’re going to wish you had some cap room but it all went to Cousins.
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    Kirk actually has played very well against the Packers.

  40. “Cousins can’t carry a team like a true Franchise QB can”.
    I continue to hear this, but we need to stop and think critically. How often does a QB actually carry his team to a SB? Rodgers is one of the best to play QB and his only SB came when they had a Top 10 Def. Brees was 8-8 for three straight years until they got dynamic at RB and strong on Def. Luck, Stafford, Rivers have barely sniffed the postseason. Wilson, Ryan and Roethlisberger had great balance on Def. My point is, maybe Cousins can’t carry a team, but no one else actually carries a team either.

  41. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tom Brady, oops excuse me, Kirk Cousins is all dressed up with nowhere to go. I don’t think any of the teams will pay for what Cousins has proven. Somebody is 100% going to lose their job if you risk paying this guy Tom Brady money and he chokes even once with the season or playoffs on the line. Bye, Bye, GM!!! It just isn’t worth it. Then the media will turn on Cousins and bring up all the real truth on him to BURY that GM and Cousins. But it will be too late, the team will be stuck with that wackadoodle contract.

    Im sorry minions, this guy’s record against teams with a winning record a miserable 4-19, and even in his division-the teams who know him best, 1-5, zero playoff wins, a career 1-6 record against the Dallas cowboys alone, he has never even come close to beating the Patriots or the Steelers, I mean, and people are clamoring to pay upwards of $30 million for this guy, and pretending him being in the news every day is somehow going to make him a more successful QB! You know how the NFL shows highlight film of QB’s during pre-season, and during games, and even now during this slow time. Have you noticed there is no highlight film of Cousins balling out (unless they are specifically showing what he does well). Have you also noticed that whenever they show a highlight of a defensive player on another team-Cousins is always one of the QB ‘s that are being taken down and fumbling or throwing picks or something? Hmmm.

  42. Jets fear Kirk Cousins is heading to the Vikings
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    The rest of the NFC North teams fear he’s not going to the Vikings.

  43. “The tampering has been going on for a while. I hope the Redskins file a grievance. Honestly, the blatant rule breaking is ridiculous and should be punished. OR change the rule.”

    Generally teams don’t go after others for tampering when they have no intention of retaining the player, and said player would be untradeable with the franchise tag on him at the amount involved.

  44. Playing in a dome is like football on a basketball court. Who wouldn’t want to have a perfectly controlled environment guaranteed in over 50% of your games. This has to be a recruiting edge for Minnetonka now.

  45. normaneinstein7, how can you say what the “smart” thing to do is when you clearly don’t even understand how things work? The Skins would be absolute FOOLS to even attempt tagging him again. To slap a 3rd tag on him when they’ve obviously already replaced him, just for the purpose of withholding free agency from him and dictating to him where he’ll play next year, all Cousins would have to do is go to the NFLPA and have them file a grievance with the league against Washington, and the league would have no choice but to rescind the tag on Washington’s behalf. So not only would it not work, not only would they get nothing out of it, but those antics would also stick in the mind of potential free agents they try to sign for years to come. The Skins made their choices, and now they have no choice but to just move on. They have no leverage over Cousins, they have no right to dictate where he plays next year. They managed themselves into a situation where they are downgrading at QB and gave up a pick + one of the best young DB’s in the game to do so. They managed themselves into a situation where they get zero return on a top 10 QB in his prime. They have nobody to blame but themselves and there is literally nothing they can do to change that now.

  46. The Jets shouldn’t be surprised that a coveted free agent would want to go ANYWHERE but the New York Jets.

    I mean, come on.

  47. The red flag for me on Cousins is he was in Washington for 6 years and never got a deal done. Sure 4 of those were his rookie contract, but he never signed an extension or agreed to any long term deal.

    He’s an average QB that wants superstar money, and the sad thing is someone is going to pay it.

  48. If I were the Jets I’d go sign Case Keenum . He is just as good as Cousins but they can get him a lot cheaper.

  49. As they should be, the entire NFL should be afraid. A 13-3 team is about to upgrade the most important position, along with adding Dalvin Cook back to the mix.

    Vikings Eagles NFC championship rematch seems like a forgone conclusion at this point.

  50. Of course Cousins, like any other quarterback, would take less money to play for anyone other than the Jets. Jets need to give Cousins a blank check and keep their fingers crossed.

  51. wjmoffatt says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:06 am
    First off, Cousins is a good QB and worth all of this, his one of six guys to constantly throw our 4,100 yards these last three seasons. He did that too with a brand new core of WRs this year.
    Cousins has taken them to the playoffs.
    2015- over/under wins for the redskins was 6.5; they won 9 and the division.
    2016- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 8.
    2017- over/under wins for the redskins was 7; they won 7.

    It’s not like his been out here playing with a bunch of pro bowlers! Bree’s has two pro bowl abs and lets no talk about Thomas or line play. Rodgers has 3 great WRs. Ryan has two star RBs and Julio. Only other guys doing their thing with not top end talent is Wilson and Stafford (in the NFC).
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    What? And that does not give you pause for concern. 9 wins, then 8 wins, then 7 wins. And you say congrats!!! You sir, should quickly get out to the GM business!!! 4-19 Against teams with a winning record. 3rd out of 4th place the last two years in his own division. I guess you would give a special bonus for that record!!!

  52. jimeverettsrevenge says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    No offense to Keenum, but when the Vikings were down to the Eagles did an
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    Please explain WHY? Cousins was 0-2 against Philly this year. And to boot, he is 4-19 against teams with a winning record. And I don’t think he has even beaten a balling out team with you know 11 or 12 wins in his career. I don’t remember seeing it and I live in Redskins territory. The Redskins projected all this winning success would come from cousins 2015 passing yards performance-even though he did not beat a single team with a winning record that year. So they foolishly tagged him cause they are cowards. They should have let him test free agency in 2015 like the Vikings are doing with Case Keenam. But you are projecting just like the skins that those passing yards are going to beat some teams with a winning record. But it did not materialize two years later the skins have a worse record than his first year when he only cost $660K.

  53. He’s worth no more than the contract Matt Schaub got in 2012 tho. At the time that was allot of money for a QB. Now they making like 28 mill a year for none elite QBs. GM’s sometimes have no choice to overpay tho,because it’s sometimes best for the franchise.

  54. jimeverettsrevenge says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    No offense to Keenum, but when the Vikings were down to the Eagles did anyone have any confidence of him leading a comeback? Cousins offers a bit more in that respect.
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    Please explain WHY? Cousins was 0-2 against Philly this year. And to boot, he is 4-19 against teams with a winning record. And I don’t think he has even beaten a balling out team with you know 11 or 12 wins in his career. I don’t remember seeing it and I live in Redskins territory. The Redskins projected all this winning success would come from cousins 2015 passing yards performance-even though he did not beat a single team with a winning record that year. So they foolishly tagged him cause they are cowards. They should have let him test free agency in 2015 like the Vikings are doing with Case Keenam. But you are projecting just like the skins that those passing yards are going to beat some teams with a winning record. But it did not materialize two years later the skins have a worse record than his first year when he only cost $660K.

  55. Cousins didn’t have weapons ? Jackson and garçon. Reed at TE. Both Williams and scherff on the line a bevy of better than average RBs a multi purpose back in Thompson.

    Cousins played on some pretty decent teams and never sniffed winning in the playoffs.

  56. uncommon1 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:53 am
    “Cousins can’t carry a team like a true Franchise QB can”.
    I continue to hear this, but we need to stop and think critically. How often does a QB actually carry his team to a SB? Rodgers is one of the best to play QB and his only SB came when they had a Top 10 Def. Brees was 8-8 for three straight years until they got dynamic at RB and strong on Def. Luck, Stafford, Rivers have barely sniffed the postseason. Wilson, Ryan and Roethlisberger had great balance on Def. My point is, maybe Cousins can’t carry a team, but no one else actually carries a team either.

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    I totally agree!The days of franchise QB’s are dwindling, look no further than the Eagles this year. It comes down to coaching look no further than Goff and Keenum. You can have a franchise QB but how wiell has that worked out for the majority of the teams, with the exception of the Packers and the Patriots. You make and coach franchise QB, Jimmy Garoppolo for instance. You need that defense so your QB doesn’t have to pull out Hail Marys to win games. Its a team effort all the way around.

    I would like them to keep Case but again its not my money, not gonna be to overly excited if they sigh Cousins. Vikes didn’t lose the NFCCG game because of Case – they played badly in all facets of the game. Look out for the best interest of the team and sign Case. His numbers were just as good as Brees.

    Keenum 22 TD Int 7
    Brees 23 TD INT 8.

    Keenum also knows his WRs, Diggs Theilen and TE Rudolph. With a new OC and new scheme Keenum all ready knows where his receivers like the ball. One part of the equation down. Just the learn the new Offense. Bringing in a new QB everyone has to adjust, coiple that with learning a new offense can set you back a few weeks which could cost you a game or two early in the season.

  57. Two things are just bound to happen, history demonstrates that;
    1. Some team will vastly overpay Cousins, despite knowing it in advance.
    2. The Vikings will sign the wrong QB.

  58. I just don’t understand this whole thing. Why do people keep putting him in the conversation as a “franchise Quarterback”? He is absolutely not and he isn’t one bit better than Keenum, period. He made a lot of money and was franchised twice in Washington, but that was because Snyder and company can’t manage a football team. I like Keenum, but he isn’t going to be the answer either. When I think of “franchise QB”, I think of Brady, Rogers, Brees, Manning, Favre and so on. There isn’t a franchise QB available other than Brees and we all know that he isn’t really available and who would pay him what he wants and cripple their team with the cap constraints that come with his contract? Like I said yesterday, Vikings need to sign Keenum to a mid level deal with incentives that can put him in franchise territory paywise. He played well and deserves a contract. But, you sign to a “prove it” deal to protect your team.

  59. Deanna Guin says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:37 am
    I’m not completely sold on KC either but we also have to take into account the dysfunction of the organization and how bad the team was … Maybe with a better organization and team he will really surprise us !!!
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    Sir, in what world is it smart to tie up $20 plus million a year to FIND OUT if he can be better on a new teamM. Because to pay $30 million is just utterly reckless and very stupid risk. A QB HAS to have proven he can win SB with that kind of salary. PERIOD. Brady-you can take that risk, Rodgers-you can take that risk, and honestly, not many others at this point. And for me, I would not sign Brady or Rodgers for $30 million because even THEY have not proven they can win the SB with that amount of a CAP hit!!! Cheaper, undervalued smart QB’s is the new smart way to get a SB!!! The other surrounding talent is REQUIRED to get to the SB, but not an elite QB anymore. Face it, people!!!

  60. robert bourrillion says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    He’s worth no more than the contract Matt Schaub got in 2012 tho. At the time that was allot of money for a QB. Now they making like 28 mill a year for none elite QBs. GM’s sometimes have no choice to overpay tho,because it’s sometimes best for the franchise.
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    BAD example! Schaub did not win a SB!! That is an example of what NOT to do.

  61. This narrative that Keenum proved something and should be paid by the Vikings just because he won a playoff game and had a good year is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong I was impressed but we saw the very best he had and can’t expect him to play that well consistently. Him knowing the offense doesn’t hold up either because Shurmer is in NY. Bradford would have destroyed the league with this offense just like he did to the Saints in game one. Keenum played well and took advantage of the talent he had to work with. Any QB would be licking their chops to drive that car and you can bet Cousins is licking his.

  62. harryhodag says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:18 am

    Did I miss something or did Cousins play for the Redskins?
    Here’s the Wikipedia rundown of 2017…
    “the Redskins lost seven of the final twelve games after exiting the Week 5 bye with a 2-2 start, failed to improve on their 8–7–1 record from the previous season and were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs after losing to the Chargers.”
    So……all of that had to do with anyone other than the QB? A QB in a system devised by an offense-minded coach?
    Please…sign with the Vikings! You’ll be the third-best QB in the NFC North!
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    Yes, you did miss something. You missed the fact that the Skins had one of the most injured rosters in the league. They had something like 20 players on IR, 11 of which were slated to be starters at the beginning of the season. There were games when the oline were missing 4 starters and replaced with guys signed 3 days before the game. He still put up over 4000 yards and 27 TD without DeSean and Garcon. Jordan Reed barely played and was injured most of the season.

  63. I can’t see Zimmer and Spielman sacrificing their team to get one guy.I wouldn’t go more than $25 million if that for him. The Vikes still need their core/key players.$48 million in cap space is not much when you bring in a guy for $30 million. There isn’t much cap for the other guys. You’ll lose some of them. I hope they don’t sign him. But if they do, not for a ridiculous amount as has been mentioned.

  64. halfcentaur says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    normaneinstein7, how can you say what the “smart” thing to do is when you clearly don’t even understand how things work? The Skins would be absolute FOOLS to even attempt tagging him again. To slap a 3rd tag on him when they’ve obviously already replaced him, just for the purpose of withholding free agency from him and dictating to him where he’ll play next year, all Cousins would have to do is go to the NFLPA and have them file a grievance with the league against Washington, and the league would have no choice but to rescind the tag on Washington’s behalf. So not only would it not work, not only would they get nothing out of it, but those antics would also stick in the mind of potential free agents they try to sign for years to come. The Skins made their choices, and now they have no choice but to just move on. They have no leverage over Cousins, they have no right to dictate where he plays next year. They managed themselves into a situation where they are downgrading at QB and gave up a pick + one of the best young DB’s in the game to do so. They managed themselves into a situation where they get zero return on a top 10 QB in his prime. They have nobody to blame but themselves and there is literally nothing they can do to change that now.

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    There is no rule saying the Skins can’t tag and trade him. The Patriots did it. Kirk can file a grievance all he wants to. It doesn’t matter. There isn’t a rule saying you can’t trade a tagged player. It was only a risky move for the Skins to tag him if there was no potential trade partner. Worst case scenario for the Skins is the possibility of a massive cap hit if the tag wasn’t rescinded in time, but that happening is highly unlikely.

    It would work out in this case because the Jets obviously want him bad enough and would rather trade for him than to lose him to another team. It works out for the Skins. It works out for the Jets. It also works out for Cousins because the Jets are on his “list”.

    I’m glad you’re not the GM.

  65. Why are people saying Case is more of a proven commodity then KC? How? Case had one good year, Kirk has had three. Quit comparing W-L records at this point. The Redskins organization team everything isn’t as good as the Vikings past 10 years. Please.

    Someone actually posted KC never took the Skins to the playoffs. Uh yeah, he did. If you are making that argument, then maybe we should keep Teddy. He took us to the playoffs in 2015.

    Finally, how do you know if KC is going to be too expensive or not? Have you seen a proposed contract? No one knows.

  66. Why break the bank for somebody unproven when they have the No. 1 ranked NFL QB in the NFL based on DVOA statistics? Read the column (today) by Chris Hine of the Star Tribune. He’s the lead writer for a new sports analytics column called North Score. He makes a good case for Keenum. why experiment further? When it’s not broken and someone wants to fix it, it’s never a successful turn of events. Never.

  67. Vikings screwed the pooch on the Herschel Walker trade many years ago and Dallas won a few Super Bowls from their trade mistakes.
    If they go all in on Cousins I see a similar disaster, cap hell for years to come. Buyer beware!!!

  68. Has anyone connected the dots to who the good receivers are vs. who is throwing them the ball?
    Can’t catch it if you don’t hit them open.
    Blame the Wr’s but if you watch tape you got to hit the open receiver. Just saying

  69. A lot of hype.for a quarterback with average skills. He didn’t carry the Redskins, he won’t do anything anywhere else either.

  70. Odds are Keenum is coming back. Zimmer did say that he would probably get fired if they go with the wrong QB. I JUST can’t see Cousins signing with the Vikings.How much if any better is Cousins than Keenum? Is it worth taking that kind of chance. You better not pay a QB franchise QB money, because you THINK he is that franchise QB, only to find out later he is not a franchise QB. KABOOM!!! In all likelihood, you’ll have probably lost some key players in process of getting the QB.

  71. The Jets are about the same as the Redskins. Signing with them will unlikely mean a trip to the Super Bowl anytime soon. The Vikings on the other hand are knocking at the door of the Super Bowl, to borrow one of Bum Philip’s pronouncements. Kirk Cousins may help them kick the door down.

  72. Keenum was really good in 2017, and Bradford & Bridgewater will be ready in 2018. Spending a boatload of $$ on Cousins would be foolish. A slight upgrade for a ton of money. Team’s set to take the next step anyway with what they have/had on hand. Let somebody else pay Cuz.

  73. stellarperformance says:
    March 4, 2018 at 1:49 pm
    Why break the bank for somebody unproven when they have the No. 1 ranked NFL QB in the NFL based on DVOA statistics? Read the column (today) by Chris Hine of the Star Tribune. He’s the lead writer for a new sports analytics column called North Score. He makes a good case for Keenum. why experiment further? When it’s not broken and someone wants to fix it, it’s never a successful turn of events. Never.
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    Your first mistake is reading the Strib for any real information. Do you know who uses analytics to make football decisions? That’s right….. the Cleveland Browns.

  74. Report is Cousins wants 3 years/90 mil. Perfect for Vikings. Front load 1st year to 40 mil then 25 mil next 2 seasons. That would allow us to keep the rest of our players too down the line. Adding Cousins to the Vikings = Superbowl favorites

  75. normaneinstein7 – yeah there have been occasions where players were tagged and traded. That alone is not against any rules.

    But the WRITTEN SPIRIT of the franchise tag is to retain a player for the purpose of playing him another year and / or trying to negotiate an extension with that player. So when we’re sitting at the 3rd consecutive year, with his replacement player already acquired with an extension agreed upon, then OBVIOUSLY any attempt to tag him at the last second is for no other purpose than to try and withhold free agency from him and flip him for a pick. So yeah, if the Skins even tried, it wouldn’t hold up for two seconds. They would get nothing and look completely foolish.

    Also, teams aren’t gonna be lining up to fork over assets for a $34 mil one year contract. If Kirk isn’t going to hand pick a team in FA this year, then he would just hold out until next year and do it then. So who is giving up assets AND paying that price for what could easily amount to a one year rental? If he’s not gonna pick the Jets in FA this year, then he’s not gonna get traded there and sign an extension. So what would be the point?

    Not to mention, if Kirk called their bluff and signed, then they have $58 mil tied up in 2 QBs to start the league year and not only couldn’t add anything until (if) it was resolved, but probably couldn’t even retain their current players due to the cap. So there’s that little hiccup to your plan too.

    Long story short: it makes NO SENSE ON ANY LEVEL and it is a blatant violation of the spirit of the rule which would have to be rescinded if a grievance was filed.

    So yeah, the Skins have NO CHOICE but to move on. Their own doing and it’s too late for them to hit that panic button and recoup assets.

  76. Until someone can point to when giving QBs large contracts has ever led to success with in house guys, let alone with free agents, I don’t exactly understand why they’re bidding against each other. I thought this was a copycat league. So why exactly are people copycatting what doesn’t work. It’s like the Lions re-signing Stafford for that silly contract they gave him with his record against good teams. At some point, you should see that paying him more and worsening the rest of your team isn’t exactly going to fix the problem. Cousins on the market will end like the last guy who did this, Kevin Kolb. Whoever signs him will get everybody fired in the building just like that did.

  77. Vikings are the best fit because he wont have to carry a bad team, just do his job at a high, if not elite level. With their roster I could see 5+ years of playoffs, perhaps a SB or two.

  78. I’m a Vikings fan, have been for 33 years, and like the Jets I too fear that Cousins is on his way to Minnesota.

    Honestly, the guy put up good numbers in a system that played to his strengths. Had he played for the Vikings these past four years then his numbers would have been similar to Bridgewater’s, Bradford’s, or Keenum’s.

    Even at a slight discount, this is going to be way too much money to invest in one position considering he will be new to the team. I’d rather stick with Bridgewater and see where that leads us!

  79. “There is no rule saying the Skins can’t tag and trade him. The Patriots did it. Kirk can file a grievance all he wants to. It doesn’t matter. There isn’t a rule saying you can’t trade a tagged player. ”

    Actually tagging with no intention of signing the player is a violation of the rule, at least technically. That said, its up to the player if he wants to file a grievance against the team for doing so. Usually when this has happened the player has been happy to take the contract offered by the new team and make the pile of money he was hoping for.

    Washington would be fools to tag him for that purpose though. It would drive up the price of his contract, and they would hard pressed to find anyone willing to offer much for him. The worst possible result for the Redskins would be Cousins signing that tag for 34 million, and then finding no trade partner so they were stuck with a QB they don’t want at an outrageous cost.

  80. omeimontis says:
    March 4, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    “… The Vikings on the other hand are knocking at the door of the Super Bowl, to borrow one of Bum Philip’s pronouncements. Kirk Cousins may help them kick the door down.”
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    The Vikings recently had a QB who tried to “kick the door down” and he – Heinicke – got his foot stuck in said door and injured himself!

  81. halfcentaur says:
    March 4, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    normaneinstein7 – yeah there have been occasions where players were tagged and traded. That alone is not against any rules.

    But the WRITTEN SPIRIT of the franchise tag is to retain a player for the purpose of playing him another year and / or trying to negotiate an extension with that player. So when we’re sitting at the 3rd consecutive year, with his replacement player already acquired with an extension agreed upon, then OBVIOUSLY any attempt to tag him at the last second is for no other purpose than to try and withhold free agency from him and flip him for a pick. So yeah, if the Skins even tried, it wouldn’t hold up for two seconds. They would get nothing and look completely foolish.
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    Spirit? Sorry dude, that is not a written rule and the fact the Patriots did it before, shows it can be done. Kirk is currently property of the Redskins. Period. Alex Smith isn’t technically on the Redskins roster right now.

    Beside, Kirk filing a grievance would simply delay him finding another team. It would be the wrong move on his behave to do it, especially when the team is on his “list”. Saying he would is simply him trying to gain more leverage.

  82. normaneinstein7 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:51 am
    CheeseisGoodforYou! says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:35 am
    As an AVID Packer Fan, I hope Minn does sign Cousins.
    1st, he’s not an elite QB. Go check his stats. He wasn’t a top 10 QB in passer ratings. He threw 13 picks. Go ahead and pay $30 mil/yr.
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    I’m a Vikings fan and I too hope that they don’t sign Cousins… but someone will and they’ll probably end up paying him nearly $30m a year.

    Then Aaron Rodgers – who according to reports is waiting to see what the market value is for Cousins – will demand his next contract to be north of whatever Cousins signs for. After paying Rodgers say $32m a season, let’s see how much cap space the Packers have to surround him with talent.

  83. I hope the vikings sign him. If he signs the 3 year deal that’s been reported, it keeps the Vikings in a state of perpetual QB purgatory. They need a guy for the long term, not all these short term band-aids they keep chasing and overpaying for. Plus, with a three year deal, the Cousins contract drama will start NEXT YEAR, which is just entertaining for everyone else.

  84. As a Vikings fan I fear that also.

    Herschel Walker,

    Herschel Walker

    HERSCHEL WALKER!

    Don’t mortgage the future for this guy when the NFC title game featured two journeymen at QB one of which was ultimately the Super Bowl MVP. If you are dead set on taking a risk, keep the 3 you have, they are all a risk.

  85. I have no problem with a 3 year 99 million contract if thats what it takes.
    Or bring back Keenum on a 2 year 45 millions dollar contract
    Add Cousins and Cook to go with Theilen, Diggs and Rudolph would be interesting, or return Cook with Keenum and we already know the great chemistry he has with Theilen, Diggs and Rudolph.

    And then move on to the most important offseason additions: D-line and Cornerback.
    Newman and Waynes were destroyed in the NFC Championship and the pass rush disappeared.

  86. normaneinstein7 – you referenced the Pats and Matt Cassel again, so you clearly are still missing the point. That was not the same situation this would be, and YES THE SPIRIT OF THE FRANCHISE TAG IS LITERALLY WRITTEN INTO THE RULE OF IT’S EXISTENCE.

    Also, NO, Cousins is NOT the property of the Redskins. He is not under contract. He is under no obligation to sign any tag, even if they attempted to do it.

    Sorry dude, but you are just wrong. I can see why you would think what you think, but what you’re saying isn’t true. Stop trying to disprove it by repeating the same misguided argument over and over. The Skins have no control and no leverage over Cousins anymore. None. Zero.

  87. normaneinstein7 “Beside, Kirk filing a grievance would simply delay him finding another team”

    Uhhh no, the Skins trying to apply it would simply delay him from inevitably hitting free agency. Like i’ve been trying to tell ya, you got this backwards.

  88. The Jets would be better off filling some holes on their roster, maybe make a big splash on Malcom Butler or Allen Robinson, but then using the rest of their cash building the offensive line, and drafting Josh Rosen/Roquan Smith/Quenton Nelson/Bradley Chubb if any of those guys fall to them in the first.

  89. nflpoker says:
    March 4, 2018 at 4:07 pm
    And the Hershel Walker screw up is coming back to haunt us.

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    There are no draft picks involved in signing Cousins. Can you be more over dramatic?

  90. harrisonhits2 – exactly! It is “technically” against the rule but generally on the first application, no matter the outcome, it’s basically a non-issue 99% of the time. But when we’re talking about a completely unprecedented 3rd straight application, after all talks had broken down for years, after the organization had already openly distanced themselves from him, after his replacement had already been acquired, after his replacement had already agreed to a long term extension with the team etc….then it becomes a level of blatant intentional violation of the spirit of the rule that really has never been seen before, and therefore if presented to the league from the NFLPA on Cousins behalf, they would literally have no choice but to rescind it and declare him a free agent as the writing of the rule itself directly stipulates.

  91. mathias122413 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    As they should be, the entire NFL should be afraid. A 13-3 team is about to upgrade the most important position, along with adding Dalvin Cook back to the mix.

    Vikings Eagles NFC championship rematch seems like a forgone conclusion at this point.

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    None if those guys play defense and that is a weak point for the Vikings. Oh sure guys like to talk them up and rattle off some stats. But when it comes down to showing they can close the deal in the key games they have yet to show that even once in several tries. Always an excuse gets bandied about for fading at the end, but all those excuses just add up to always fading at the end. The Vikings have further to go before they are ready. And breaking the bank for a really good, but not elite qb is not going to help.

  92. Let the Redskins franchise Cousins. They can’t trade him if he hasn’t signed that tender. Let it go well into training camp playing a game of chicken. Should the Redskins play hardball, then they will have to account for Cousins’ $30m+ salary which will hamper their preparations for the season. They will also lose any compensation in 2019 when Cousins inevitably signs for another team. As soon as the Redskins have filled their roster, Cousins simply signs. The Redskins will rescind the tag before Cousins can enter the building.

  93. What the Jets can offer Kirk that the Vikings can’t is an easier path to the playoffs. Let’s name all the QB’s Kirk will have to deal with in the NFC. Rodgers, Cam, Goff, Wilson, Ryan, Wentz, Smith, Garoppolo, Stafford, Dak… All of them have many years left in the league. In the AFC he will have Brady, Rivers, Ben and Mariota… The 1st 3 are on their last legs.

  94. “mathias122413 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    As they should be, the entire NFL should be afraid. A 13-3 team is about to upgrade the most important position, along with adding Dalvin Cook back to the mix.

    Vikings Eagles NFC championship rematch seems like a forgone conclusion at this point.”

    I kept hearing Vikings-Patriots Super Bowl predictions from you folks. Didn’t quite work out that way though. LOL.

  95. aypeeswhippingstick says:
    March 4, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    C’mon Spielman, please please please please do whatever it takes to sign Cousins. Just like Hershel Walker, he’s what you’re missing, go get him!

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    Would love to get Cousins and sign him for whatever it takes. That would mean Rodgers will cripple the pack with his contract. The Walker signing is nothing like signing Cousins. The Vilings gave multiple high draft picks for Walker There will be no draft picks involved with Cousins. But you pack fans keep making up stuff, it’s funny to read about your lack of football knowledge.

  96. For 25 years, you purples have been predicting the next Packer QB contract would cripple the team and you’ve been correct exactly never. Not even once. Most people couldn’t be that inept if they tried, so at least you have that going for you.

  97. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    March 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    For 25 years, you purples have been predicting the next Packer QB contract would cripple the team and you’ve been correct exactly never. Not even once. Most people couldn’t be that inept if they tried, so at least you have that going for you

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    No purple has ever said that, another made up statement by pack fan. But we are saying it now, and you painfully know it’s true.

  98. Keep in mind that the QB cap charge to the Vikes in 2017 was $22M – it’s not like they can’t both accommodate and plan for cap management. Bryz is one of the best front office cap guys in the NFL. Still not sold on Cousins though.

  99. So Rodgers is waiting for Cousins to sign to make sure he will make more than him. How funny will it be when Cousins take less than market value to be on a winning team that will be able to pay other players around him. Watch, Rodgers will still demand the highest and suuuuuuuck up all Green Bay’s cap space. HAHAHAHAHA

  100. flviking says:
    March 4, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    March 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    For 25 years, you purples have been predicting the next Packer QB contract would cripple the team and you’ve been correct exactly never. Not even once. Most people couldn’t be that inept if they tried, so at least you have that going for you

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    No purple has ever said that, another made up statement by pack fan. But we are saying it now, and you painfully know it’s true.

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    ketchupaholic says:
    April 26, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    8) Great news for packers fans and Vikings, Bears, Lions. On one hand, the packers get to keep Rodgers, on the other hand, packers are going to be strapped for cash for a long…… time!

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    bloomer006999999 says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    $66 million contract last week to Clay Matthews and now $110 million over five years, with $62 million in the first three years … it’s safe to say that the other 50 players on this team won’t be making much $$$ … lol

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    chillyball says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    Kiss of death for fudgepack. No one EVER performs for high contracts.

    Brett retires as a Viking in response. You read it here first.

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    contra74 says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    Should have given some of that money to get a decent O-line.

    What good is Rodgers while he is laying on his back with a concussion?

    Next thing you know, Rodgers will want his own parking space by the front of the building and his own dressing room before games.

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    This was just a quick search of PFT at the time of his last contract. I’m quite sure I could find hundreds, if not thousands, more but why bother? Once again, the facts are what the facts are and if the facts don’t match what’s in your head, the problem isn’t with the facts.

  101. I am sitting here thinking why was it OK for Minnesota to lost their OC while still playing, But Free agents have to wait virtually until the eve of the draft to negotiate those lost days were as bad as tampering, and you could tell that Shurmer’s head was NOT in the Championship game! He had already signed the contract in New York and the Vikings looked totally lost out there. The first 25 plays were scripted and Minnesota went right down the field and scored! AFTER that…NOTHING at all, no adjustments were made. Free agents should be able to sign with a different team a week after their season is done. Making teams and players wait is idiotic, and Veteran players SHOULD have the first shot at being signed, they have already played for 4 or 5 years for the lowest wages! All this does is cause confusion and teams AND players make mistakes because they do not have ample time to evaluate more than just a few players before the draft! As far as Cousins goes he might make more money but the Jets have proven for decades the franchise is a JOKE! he is going to get killed out there same with the Bills only at a slightly lower chance of ending a career due to injury! Minnesota has so much more to offer, Coaching, Stability at ownership, new Stadium (playing at least 9 games indoors), cap space, a team that’s just a few tweaks from winning it all. MOST importantly Cousins has SAID he wants to be in Minnesota!

  102. This Kirk Cousins so call sweepstakes makes no sense when the QB that you are talking about has accomplished nothing other than passing yards. The football team that overpays Kirk Cousins will live to regret it big time. Kirk Cousin is an overrated, overhyped nickel and dime QB that has choked in every football game that meant anything to the Washington Redskins. If they do an analysis of Kirk’s tape and how he plays in big games they would think twice about sinking a 1/3 of their salary cap in a QB that has accomplished nothing other than accruing passing yards. Against the better defense in the NFL Kirk only CMP% 55.2%, Kirk is 1-5 in those games where he CMP% less than 60% of his passes. Kirk Cousins accounted for 18 turnovers (13 INT/ 13/5 FUM). In Kirk Cousins last ten games of the regular season, Kirk is 4-6. Kirk Cousins is fools gold!

  103. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    March 4, 2018 at 7:21 pm
    flviking says:
    March 4, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    March 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    For 25 years, you purples have been predicting the next Packer QB contract would cripple the team and you’ve been correct exactly never. Not even once. Most people couldn’t be that inept if they tried, so at least you have that going for you

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    No purple has ever said that, another made up statement by pack fan. But we are saying it now, and you painfully know it’s true.

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    ketchupaholic says:
    April 26, 2013 at 4:59 pm
    8) Great news for packers fans and Vikings, Bears, Lions. On one hand, the packers get to keep Rodgers, on the other hand, packers are going to be strapped for cash for a long…… time!

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    bloomer006999999 says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:27 pm
    $66 million contract last week to Clay Matthews and now $110 million over five years, with $62 million in the first three years … it’s safe to say that the other 50 players on this team won’t be making much $$$ … lol

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    chillyball says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    Kiss of death for fudgepack. No one EVER performs for high contracts.

    Brett retires as a Viking in response. You read it here first.

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    contra74 says:
    April 26, 2013 at 5:44 pm
    Should have given some of that money to get a decent O-line.

    What good is Rodgers while he is laying on his back with a concussion?

    Next thing you know, Rodgers will want his own parking space by the front of the building and his own dressing room before games.

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    This was just a quick search of PFT at the time of his last contract. I’m quite sure I could find hundreds, if not thousands, more but why bother? Once again, the facts are what the facts are and if the facts don’t match what’s in your head, the problem isn’t with the facts

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    A quick search, lol. You probably do have thousands of old post squirreled away. Ever see the movie fatal attraction?

  104. Lots of over thinkers here.

    Cousins has played better than any of the other three guys the Vikings might be considering (Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater). Go look up their stats over the past few seasons. Each of them has had 1 good season. The only one they should consider is Keenum, I don’t see why you’d really pay Keenum 20 million, but not Cousins 25 million? TB is just not that good. 14 TD passes a year won’t win you anything at all. Bradford only throws safe passes. Third and 8? He’ll get you 5 with a check down to RB. And not the least bit durable. Hes a waste of money.

    As for Cousins being good or bad, name 5 QBs who played better than him over the last 3 years. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Ben…..

  105. You just need to know how to search Google with the right parameters. It’s incredibly easy, if one has the smarts… oh… sorry… never mind.

    Anyways, like I said to begin with, you purples have been hopping and squawking this same nonsense for 25 years and you’ve been correct a grand total of never. And then you come along and add icing to the cake with your delusion that no purple has ever said that.

    Keep working at it. You may have a real shot at becoming the next Purple Head.

  106. .
    stop being silly.
    The Jets will NEVER EVER pay a player his value.
    All the owner cares about is filling seats and they are full.
    Any player that has a new contract coming and is worth the money they trade away for washed up players.

  107. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    March 4, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    You just need to know how to search Google with the right parameters. It’s incredibly easy, if one has the smarts… oh… sorry… never mind.

    Anyways, like I said to begin with, you purples have been hopping and squawking this same nonsense for 25 years and you’ve been correct a grand total of never. And then you come along and add icing to the cake with your delusion that no purple has ever said that.

    Keep working at it. You may have a real shot at becoming the next Purple Head.
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    Well I did see one fact in the list.. It stated Rodgers lying on his back with concussions except it ACTUALLY was from Broken Shoulders.. You know they never do heal the same, just ask Tony Romo, But if you also thing you are the only one who knows how to do a Boolean Query you aren’t as smart as you think you are.. I did see about 3 to one Flaming comments by Limburgers like you to Viking fans.. Be careful what you say, you just might not like the results. Packer fans…you just gotta scratch your head with them

  108. The Vikings priority should be adding depth to the offensive line. They were vastly improved last year and it showed. I loved the quarterback play but the offensive line was the key to last season.

    And they need to get that slotter kid ready. You know the Vikings can’t keep a quarterback healthy for whatever reason and their backup is the most important guy on the team.

    I hope they can keep Bradford in a backup role but it’s not likely.

  109. I hope Cousins goes to the Vikings. If he does, he’ll eat up an inordinate amount of the team’s cap, and they’ll need to cut some good veterans.

    I don’t see how Cousins raises the bar of QB play for Minny over and above the production they got this year. He’s not worth the money he’s going to get to sign.

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    Cut some “good veterans”?? You do realize Minnesota has a ton of cap space. They can sign Cousins, then re-sign Hunter and Kendricks which are huge priorities, and also Barr if they choose not to trade him.

    Ridiculous. Brez is the best in the business when it comes to managing the cap. I’d sign Kirk for 3 years and over him 90M and be done with it….

  110. I’m always careful with what I say. I don’t deal in delusion and fantasy, I deal in facts. That’s why it always goes the same, every single time… purples troll, I set them straight with simple facts, verifiable by anyone that can read and comprehend the English language, and then the purples cry about it. That’s on them.

    It’s like our mom’s always said: “If you simply tell the truth, you don’t have to worry about keeping your lies straight.”

  111. It’s like our mom’s always said: “If you simply tell the truth, you don’t have to worry about keeping your lies straight.”
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    lost 4 out of the last 5 against the vikings. lost the division twice out of the last 3. got shut out in 25% of their regular season HOME games. the “new” aaron rodgers playing like he did in carolina.

    #truth

  112. Why are so many people blind to Kirk Cousins! The facts don’t lie, Kirk Cousins record against top football team is very real. Kirk Cousins played behind an excellent Offensive Line even with the injuries, but Kirk could get wins this offense was not scoring enough points to help an up and coming defense. Under Kirk Cousins, the Redskins were one of the worst 3rd down teams in the NFL (66/204/32.4%). irk will be one of the biggest free agent bust since Albert Haynesworth…….

  113. Already knows the system? You are aware they have a new O-coordinator, right?

    goawayeverybody says:
    March 4, 2018 at 11:28 am
    As usual, the Vikings will confidently make the worst decision possible. Keeping Case Keenum would be the best decision, since he’s a proven commodity and already knows the system. Cousins is a proven failure as he has shown time and time again. So of course, the Vikings will go all in on Cousins and go 5-11 next season. Write it down.

  114. As a Jets fan I really hope this is true, I don’t want them to break the bank for a below average QB. Putting the team in QB purgatory for the next 7 years. I rather take our chances finding the franchise QB in the draft….. and yes I know the Jets have been horrible drafting QBs but you gotta figure they hit on one at some point….right?

  115. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    For 25 years, you purples have been predicting the next Packer QB contract would cripple the team and you’ve been correct exactly never. Not even once. Most people couldn’t be that inept if they tried, so at least you have that going for you.
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    How has your defense been since Rodgers signed his last contract? How many Olineman have lost since Rodgers last contract? When was the last time the Packers signed a quality RB since Rodgers last contract?

    Too much money invested in Rodgers and WR’s to field a proper team.

    And Rodgers is now damaged goods (until he can prove otherwise). Go ahead and compound your cap problems by making Rodgers the highest paid player in the NFL – AGAIN.

  116. David Szwartz says:
    March 4, 2018 at 10:25 am
    Cousins is Fools Gold…..If Cousins wanted to create a legacy..Be seen as a Winner,he’d go to Cleveland..NOT a Cleveland homer But if your as Good as u Think..Being Paid…Turn around a franchise..I Hope Cleveland uses their picks wisely…SCREW COUSINS.NOT WORTH IT !!!!! Take Barkley then best Qb …build Offensive line !!!!!!
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    Sounds like a big ol’ Bowl of sour Grapes to me!

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