Eagles may need the draft picks a Nick Foles trade could bring

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The Eagles wisely are playing coy about a possible trade of Nick Foles, treating it as something they’ll do only if they get the kind of windfall they want. The reality could be that they ultimately need to take the best possible offer they can get for Foles.

The trade that brings defensive end Michael Bennett to Philadelphia also brings into focus the depleted draft class the Eagles are scheduled to have in 2018. Jimmy Kempski of PhillyVoice.com lists the picks the Eagles have and explains the picks the Eagles have lost, via the Carson Wentz trade (second-round pick to Cleveland), the Ronald Darby trade (third-round pick to Buffalo), the Jay Ajayi trade (a fourth-round pick acquired in a trade that sent Eric Rowe to New England, to Miami), and the Bennett trade (a fifth-round pick acquired in a trade that sent Matt Tobin to Seattle, back to Seattle).

The end result is that the Eagles have their first-round pick (No. 32), a fourth-round pick from the Vikings in the Sam Bradford trade (No. 130), their fourth-round pick (No. 132), their fifth-round pick (No. 169), their sixth-round pick (No. 206), and three seventh-round picks (one from the Seahawks, their own, and a compensatory pick).

Absent further trades — for example, a deal to send Nick Foles to another team, the Eagles will see 98 players drafted from when they’re on the clock to end Thursday night until they’re back on the clock on Saturday afternoon.

Apart from the fact that the Eagles need more draft picks is the reality that Foles, through his agents, may soon be clamoring for a chance to play this year, and to be paid accordingly. When the Eagles traded Bradford two years ago, the Eagles otherwise intended to put him on the field. Foles is slated to be the backup, and to make a mere $7 million; surely, he’s interested in not being a backup and not making only $7 million.

So, basically, the combination of the Eagles needing to replenish picks and Foles wanting a chance to strike while the Super Bowl MVP iron is hot and teams already making offers that the Eagles are summarily rejecting suggests that, at some point before the 2018 draft, the Eagles will realize that they should do the best deal possible for Foles, who otherwise will be able to walk away a year from now as a free agent.

50 responses to “Eagles may need the draft picks a Nick Foles trade could bring

  1. Who said they’re rejecting offers? Nothing can be official yet and no one saw any of the other trades coming so maybe they already have their “best deal” in place, just seeing if they can get a better one in the next week. That’d be what Howie should be doing, even if he is already happy with possible return.

  2. If Foles walks away the Birds will get a compensatory pick, so any offers have to be better than what they will get anyway.

    Foles could be traded after the draft for players and/or 2019 picks.

  3. I would like them to do it just to show all how criminally undervalued Jimmy G was in the trade by the Pats and how the only conclusion to draw from it was petulance by Belichick to stick it to his owner for not letting him trade Brady.

  4. makes no sense to trade foles for a 2nd. if you hold on to him you will get insurance for wentz and a third as a compensatory later….
    I could see a second and a player – similar to the kolb trade

  5. And I’ll need another beer as I watch the super bowl for the 52nd time…. it’s all relevant

  6. Who exactly said St. Nick wants to start somewhere? He may be perfectly happy backing up Carson Wentz on the World Champion Eagles. Speculation is all ya got.

  7. All Speculation exactly. Foles is content with Philly, either Arizona or he stays. Either way it’s a win-win. We got multiple starters coming back from injury , we are deep 1 or 2 extra picks will not make of break us, besides we got a boat load of comp picks coming next year.

  8. Playing devils advocate here: why exactly do the eagles need second and third round picks? They just won the SB and lost no major free agents and don’t have cap issues. They are all in right now. They are a complete team looking to repeat. Foles is worth more than a second round rookie.

  9. Tremendous amount of speculation here. 1) They didn’t lose a pick, it just changed from the 5th to the 7th. It’s not like that 5th pick was a sure bet to make the roster any more than the 7th. 2) Wentz is coming off an injury that could easily sideline him for the first month of the season. Foles would be a premium insurance policy if they don’t get the offer they want. 3) Foles is under contract and on record as saying he would come back, and there’s no reason to disbelieve him.

    There’s a good chance they either, 1) get the offer they want and trade him before the draft, 2) take something less than they wanted if there’s a player sitting there they want on draft day, or 3) keep him as insurance and then trade him for what they can get before the deadline.

    Bottom line is– they have options and the ability to make the decision they want. There’s nothing forcing their hand at the moment.

  10. The Eagles are, or will soon realize, that they are coming up against what all winning teams eventually do, which is the inability to keep all of the quality players on their roster that they would like to keep. You can see why they want to keep Nick Foles, their SB MVP and insurance policy against Carson Wentz not being ready to start the ’18 season, or getting injured again. However, they may have to admit that the wisest course for them is to take the best offer they can get for Foles now (which should be a good one), and bring in as solid a veteran backup as they can. Unless they decide that Foles is going to be their starter this season?!

  11. Eagles and Foles aren’t tipping their caps to anything, so guess all you want. What is for sure is that a Vinny Curry trade could be coming.

  12. Here’s where you find out what your FO is REALLY about…right after winning the title.

  13. If Foles is so great all of a sudden, they should keep him and trade Wentz for a ton of picks.

  14. People forget that using those 2nd and 3rd round 2018 picks to acquire young value like Darby and Ajayi was just like drafting. They’re both in their early to mid 20s, and still on their rookie deals.

    Bottom line:
    If you could get Ronald Darby and Jay Ajayi with the second and third picks in the 2018 draft, but already have them on your team as proven players who helped you win a Super Bowl, wouldn’t you do it? Of course you would.

  15. The Eagles are in need of cap space , not more draft picks . A trade of Foles would save some much needed money . That said , they are in the driver’s seat when it comes to a trade. They have a Super Bow MVP and best insurance policy at the position backing up a guy coming off a major injury . Nothing short of a first should be even considered . Also, when mentioning the Eagles’ lack of draft picks , it should be noted that Sidney Jones is essentially a draft pick ( and he’s likely be a top of the first rounder if he was in the draft this year )

  16. Foles fell bass-ackwards into the exact right spot at the exact right time. If he was really that good, he would’ve already been starting somewhere else. Any team that breaks the draft-bank to sign him will be bad for years to come.

  17. We have a first round pick, admittedly late in the round but for the price of a Super Bowl 31 other teams would take it.

    We have Sidney Jones who basically redshirted and was due to be a first rounder last year but fell to the second. Essentially our second rounder this year.

    We have lots of young talent on a loaded roster like Derek Barnett, who recovered the crucial fumble in SB52, we have Nelson Agholer developing into a dangerous slot receiver with Mach Hollins behind him. We have Big V backing up Jason Peters and Lane Johnson. Seumalo backing up Kelce. Corey Clement backing up Ajayi even if we don’t keep Blount, and Pumphrey waiting in the wings to take over for Sproles. And lets not forget a recovering Carson Wentz with Foles as the Starter till he’s back, and Sudefeld ready to step in when he leaves in free agency next year. Tell me again how we NEED those picks?

    Plus…….we probably trade someone for a third………hello Vinny Curry. We will be fine. It’s the rest of the league that ought to be worried, especially the NFC east. Howie is out-working and out-hustling you, the rest of the league. It’s only natural you would be mad.

  18. .
    You never want to go into the draft with one hand tied behind your back. However, without adequate choices it’s hard to have success. Roseman has always been a mover and shaker on draft day. I would expect he’ll make some deals to balance his board.
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  19. The Eagles are, or will soon realize, that they are coming up against what all winning teams eventually do, which is the inability to keep all of the quality players on their roster that they would like to keep…no, don’t think so. The Eagles who played a fourth place schedule will face what other teams who have drastically improved have faced: a much tougher schedule the following year. The Jags face the same problem. On the average, 5-7 team who make the playoffs do not qualify for the playoffs the following year. Scheduling in the great equalizer as the NFL (since Bell and Rozelle)strive for competitive balance in the NFL.

  20. The Eagles aren’t in the driver’s seat on this.
    Teams know they need picks.
    Teams know they need cap space.
    Rosen might do the best he can but there is zero reason for other teams to not low-ball him.

  21. Eagles traded Matt Tobin and a 7th to Seattle for their 5th. Then they turn around and give Seattle back their 5th in exchange for the return of the 7th to the Eagles AND Seattle sends Bennett to the Eagles in exchange for Marcus Johnson. So in essence, the Eagles traded a backup OL and a backup WR for a Po Bowl DL. Now assuming the Eagles let Vinny Curry go and ignoring the prorated bonuses (but keeping the roster bonuses) for Bennett and Curry, the Eagles just lowered their annual salaries to the position from $9 MM, $9.25 MM and $10 MM for the next three years to $5.7 MM, $7.0 MM and $7.5 MM. Except for the fact that Bennett is three years older than Curry, they just got better AND cheaper. Isn’t this kind of move the reason that Howie won exec of the year AND articles like these are not well-thought out.

  22. Just a thought here, but Wentz tore his ACL in December. Until AP, that was a 1 year recovery, and for most normal humans, it’s still about a 1 year recovery. That means it’s very likely that Wentz doesn’t start the first 4-6 weeks of the season. Barring an unexpected return to relevance in Dallas, they can probably cruise to the division title, but not home field advantage or a bye without a solid backup QB to start those first games. I wouldn’t trade Foles until Wentz is back and healthy. If that means you can only get 2019 picks for him, so be it. No sense in tanking a whole season if something goes wrong with Wentz’s recovery.

  23. Nope. Wrong. Mid-round draft picks are not how this championship team was built. All your blah,blah,blah speculations are meaningless. Just sit-back and watch Howie work his magic.

  24. Yes they do. A Foles trade would’ve been a luxury before. But, after the Bennett trade the Eagles not only need the picks they also need the cap relief!

  25. And for my fellow Eagles fans claiming Foles is just content as can be backing up Wentz and only making $7 million when he could be starting somewhere and making 3 times that, stop being delusional and insulting the man! Nick Foles is a Christian and a great teammate but he is also a man and as a QB he has his pride and knows he is too good to sit on a bench. So stop acting like he is a beta male when he is an Alpha and deserves his money and playing time no matter what we want!

  26. Total bs. Trade back from 32 for a 2 and a 3 and they pick up the fill ins they need. The bigger problem is the new contracts for burton , graham, and bradahm.

  27. The Eagles are in need of cap space , not more draft picks . A trade of Foles would save some much needed money . That said , they are in the driver’s seat when it comes to a trade. They have a Super Bow MVP and best insurance policy at the position backing up a guy coming off a major injury . Nothing short of a first should be even considered . Also, when mentioning the Eagles’ lack of draft picks , it should be noted that Sidney Jones is essentially a draft pick ( and he’s likely be a top of the first rounder if he was

    They are only in the driver seat if they don’t mind losing him next year for nothing. There are a lot of potential free agents at this position that are basically on the same level as Foles. When you add in the qbs that can be had in the first round and a half, the only way they should expect a 1st is by a team like Buffalo who has 2 orbthey should be happy with a second and maybe a 3rd next year. Foles value will never ever be higher and maybe philly is ok with risking losing him but I doubt Foles and his agent will be ok when he could start for a buffalo and make much more money

  28. “Who exactly said St. Nick wants to start somewhere? He may be perfectly happy backing up Carson Wentz on the World Champion Eagles.”

    This could be true. There are worse things than earning $7 million for standing on the sidelines with a baseball cap (safe from injury) and holding the modern-day equivalent of a clipboard (Microsoft Surface).

  29. Eagles are massively above the cap… beggars can’t be choosers. Every dollar counts, unless you want to start cutting a few people.

    He had two good games, the rest of them he was pretty bad. Like they need another backup bad. Which Foles are you getting? The crappy one or the one who played lights out the last two games? He’s no sure thing. I like him, but only a fool would fall for the Jedi mind trick that he’s suddenly worth the moon.

    He’s worth a 4th round pick, 3rd if the Eagles are lucky.

    Want more? Fine, cut your players. There’s still Cousins, Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater, technically Brees, McCown, McCarron, and Fitzpatrick. Plus a whole slew of backups or reclamation projects (Foles was one last year) like Glennon, Daniel, Osweiler, Mallet, Bray.

    Then there is the draft, which might be the most load since the following years; 1983, 1999, 2004. Who could go in the first round? Allen, Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Jackson, maybe even Rudolph.

    There’s Taylor and perhaps even Tannehill that can be pried away in a trade for far cheaper, if they’re not cut before or after the draft.

    Last I checked, there are more QB’s then spots available even without Foles.

    Go ahead and play cap chicken Eagles. You only risk all the fines, potential loss of draft picks, and possibly voiding of contracts if you’re over the cap for more then 24 hours once the new league year starts.

  30. rkt4mayor says:
    March 8, 2018 at 10:25 am
    And for my fellow Eagles fans claiming Foles is just content as can be backing up Wentz and only making $7 million when he could be starting somewhere and making 3 times that, stop being delusional and insulting the man! Nick Foles is a Christian and a great teammate but he is also a man and as a QB he has his pride and knows he is too good to sit on a bench. So stop acting like he is a beta male when he is an Alpha and deserves his money and playing time no matter what we want!
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    But let’s be honest here. He’s learned from his time with the Rams that being a starter isn’t the only answer. He knows that the situation has to be right and the support has to be there to have him succeed. So, while I’m sure he wants to start, and I’m sure the Eagles would love to get value, things need to fall into place for both parties to make that make sense– especially since he’d have to sign a long-term deal. So, if it makes sense, they do the deal. If it doesn’t, he’s an Eagle for another year, or at least until the trade deadline.

  31. jmc8888 says:
    March 8, 2018 at 10:42 am
    Eagles are massively above the cap…
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    False. They’re a couple of restructures away. The sky isn’t falling there.

  32. Nick Foles is worth a 1st round pick. A 1st and 4th? Probably not. But a 1st rounder definitely. Either that or 2nd and 3rd combo with a conditional 2019 pick thrown in. Eagles will get a conditional 3rd when he walks away in Free Agency so they have no incentive to trade him for less than a 2nd and 3rd.

  33. Eagles don’t have to trade Foles, but teams that don’t have a starting QB have to find one. The Eagles are in the drivers seat and teams seeking a QB are going to feel desperate after FA and during the draft if they are the team missing out. Worse case scenario for the Eagles is they have Foles backing them up next year, not a bad thing. Draft picks often don’t even work out, go look at all the second round bust have a seen, these picks are overvalued. Eagles will most likely trade Foles and my bet is they get the value they wanted. It will likely drag on to the Draft or after it.

  34. Considering the Eagles have to trim $15 million from their payroll in the next 6 days prepare for your “Super Bowl glow” to dissipate just a little. I’m overjoyed the Eagles won the Super Bowl too but Howie has a lot of work to do and less than a week to do it!

  35. How about wait for Kirk Cousins to blow out his knee early in the season, as seems to be the fate of all Viking starting quarterbacks, then trade Foles to the Vikings for a king’s ransom?

    I honestly believe this will happen.

  36. In Teddy We Trust says:
    March 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    How about wait for Kirk Cousins to blow out his knee early in the season, as seems to be the fate of all Viking starting quarterbacks, then trade Foles to the Vikings for a king’s ransom?
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    Why would the Eagles gift their chief rivals for NFC supremacy a talented QB like Nick Foles? We gave you Bradford because we knew he was as durable as a china doll. The Eagles if they trade Foles will most likely trade him to an AFC team or maybe the Cardinals as a thanks to Foles since he went to college in Arizona.

  37. The Eagles need the picks to ensure young, cheap talent to replace the vets that eventually will be forced to leave for cap reasons as the team is already tight against the cap. The Eagles will be very good the next couple years, but they need to replentish with young talent, something the Seahawks failed to do once their All-Pro defenders and Wilson came off their rookie deals — everyone can see how that has gone for the Seahawks.

  38. I think they would be foolish to trade him, picks or cap space or not. He’s cheap and they need a QB as insurance in case Wentz isn’t ready to start the season. Also – I don’t see anyone offering a first round pick for him.

    Obviously he did a good job for Philly down the stretch, but I think his history will prevent any team from paying dearly for him to be their starter.

  39. I don’t think Foles’ wishes are important in this case. He has no real leverage unless Eagles somehow get desperate for cap space, which is unlikely.

    Eagles are under no pressure and can afford to wait. I also doubt any team trades a 1st plus something. Ultimately, their confidence in Wentz’s week 1 availability will be a driving factor.

  40. jmc8888 says:
    March 8, 2018 at 10:42 am
    Eagles are massively above the cap… beggars can’t be choosers. Every dollar counts, unless you want to start cutting a few people.

    He had two good games, the rest of them he was pretty bad. Like they need another backup bad. Which Foles are you getting? The crappy one or the one who played lights out the last two games? He’s no sure thing. I like him, but only a fool would fall for the Jedi mind trick that he’s suddenly worth the moon.

    He’s worth a 4th round pick, 3rd if the Eagles are lucky.

    Want more? Fine, cut your players. There’s still Cousins, Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater, technically Brees, McCown, McCarron, and Fitzpatrick. Plus a whole slew of backups or reclamation projects (Foles was one last year) like Glennon, Daniel, Osweiler, Mallet, Bray.

    Then there is the draft, which might be the most load since the following years; 1983, 1999, 2004. Who could go in the first round? Allen, Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Jackson, maybe even Rudolph.

    There’s Taylor and perhaps even Tannehill that can be pried away in a trade for far cheaper, if they’re not cut before or after the draft.

    Last I checked, there are more QB’s then spots available even without Foles.

    Go ahead and play cap chicken Eagles. You only risk all the fines, potential loss of draft picks, and possibly voiding of contracts if you’re over the cap for more then 24 hours once the new league year starts.
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    first of all, the cap number is doable. curry, celek, torry smith, warmack, smallwood and possibly kendricks are all names with savings available. there is no assurance that jason peters will play next year as of yet. they could adopt the cowboys and other teams’ strategy of kicking the can down the road with restructures. lots of ways to address the cap so the talk of loss of picks and fines is just plain silly.

    secondly, if your contention that foles will only bring a third or fourth is true, he will be in philly for sure. they would get a third as compensatory pick when he is signed elsewhere after next season. and if gms really wanted most of the qbs you have named, let them sign them, but none have a playoff record like nick foles.

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