Packers also moved up in the fourth, fifth rounds of draft in Kizer-Randall trade

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The Packers not only got quarterback DeShone Kizer in the trade of cornerback Damarious Randall. They also will trade places with the Browns in the fourth and fifth rounds of the draft, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports.

That’s an added bonus for Green Bay.

The trade won’t become official until 4 p.m. ET Wednesday when the new league year begins.

Randall, the 30th overall pick in the 2015 draft, started 30 of 39 games in Green Bay. He intercepted 10 passes and broke up 32.

Kizer, the 52nd overall pick in 2017, went 0-15 last season as the Browns’ starter. He threw 11 touchdowns and 22 interceptions.

60 responses to “Packers also moved up in the fourth, fifth rounds of draft in Kizer-Randall trade

  1. This is garbage. Randall actually finished the season strong and I was as big a critic of his as you will find. So the Packers get the one QB who played worse then Hundley and move up in late rounds of the draft and give up a 1st round pick who finally started to look the part? You got fleeced Gutekunst. The problem at corner just got worse. Better get Colvin out of Jacksonville signed.

  2. It seems to be Cleveland got the better part of this deal. Kizer didn’t show anything except how to turn the ball over. Randall was a starter and probably not as bad as some here have said. In exchange the Browns swapped fourth- and fifth-round picks with Green Bay. If they get anything out of Randall it’ll be a win for them because they weren’t going to get anything out of Kizer.

  3. With this move the Packers are about 20 mil under the cap.
    With some contract restructuring they can probably sign one big name free agent plus get the extension for Rodgers done and add 1 or 2 mid tier free agents. That restructuring might include the Rodgers deal. Make him the NFL’s highest paid player but make it cap friendly now and backload some of that guaranteed money 5-8 years down the road where the cap will be much higher. Allows the Packers to remain a contender the next 5 years and Rodgers walks away with a boat load of money in the end. Win win for both sides. I still think the biggest acquisition this off-season will be the addition of Pettine to run the defense. He’s never run a bad defense in the NFL.

  4. Word is Randall bad mouthed the coaches at the end of the season equipping how poorly they ran the defensive scheme. Still to trade him for the worst qb in football is insane. If this is gutenist at his destroyers will be kicking himself for re signing.

  5. Good trade! The Browns threw a rookie quarterback to the wolves last season – he never had a prayer to succeed on that team. In fact, he could have benefited by staying at Notre Dame one more season instead of coming out early. He’s got good size and a decent arm … and he’ll be able to sit behind Rodgers and learn from one of the game’s best.

    Randall had his ups and downs, more times than not – he was in the right place at the right time for his interceptions last season. He seemed emotionally immature at times … and was sent to the locker room during one game last season. Remember – he was primarily a basketball player in college.

    All in all … both players needed a change of scenery, so it’s a trade that could in time benefit both teams.

  6. I think the Browns got smart fairly fast. Kizer was not the answer. Cleveland passed on what looked like some really good future QB’s the past few years and picked Kizer? We watching the same film?

    Kessler and Hogan, I don’t get either being on anyone’s team (maybe Kessler as a back-up…he looked undraftable to me).

    If McCarron signed with the Browns, then they would have had to draft a back-up at the top of round 2. So AJ would be looking over his shoulder. Not ideal. Then, Darnold turns into a superstar, the Browns look stupid all over again.

    So, they get the perfect bridge. A non turnover QB who can get them to 6-9 to 9-6. That range is the beginning of a winning tradition when you go 1-32.

    So now it gets tricky. Personally, I would just draft one of the QB’s if you happen to LOVE him at #1. Then BPA at 4 (Barkley might still be there but it depends on who offers the Giants what). Then best RB at the top of round 2.

    Really brilliant. Taylor plays, doesn’t care about the rookie. He won lotto already. He knows he’s going to get another 30 million over the years as a stop gap or back up and he WON’T turn the ball over. The rookie gets to sit (we all know Darnold is supposed to not be ready). So it’s now looking like Darnold at 1. Even if the Browns love Mayfield or pick a QB do NOT get cute. You can get burned. Get your guy at #1 and play it from there.

    But it would be tempting to trade out of #1 (Giants won’t move up) and get the darkhorse Mayfield at 4. If Denver signs McCarron, they won’t trade up. If the Jets get Cousins, they won’t even draft a QB. If the Vikings get Cousins, then it will get interesting as to what kind of game the Browns play or if they just take their guy at #1, which logic will now say it’s Darnold.

    Browns NEED to be on Hard Knocks and or the documentary that follows the team.

  7. I can’t believe GB traded it’s best CB for a QB the Browns were likely going to release and half a 4th and 5th rd picks. Kizer has shown no indication he’s ready to step in and win games as a backup and he’ll be gone in a few years when his contract is up. This is not a good first look for Gutekunst.

  8. Good trade for Green Bay. Randall was never any good. Walks out on the team in the middle of a game. Is that the kind of guy you want? Kiser may get better with good coaching. And swapping trades in the fourth and fifth round? What a bonus for the Packers! I see more action between Green Bay and Cleveland. Watch for it. Dorsey and Gutekunst are good friends.

  9. Good trade for the Packers. The Packers were not happy with Randall’s malcontent behavior. There was little chance that they would have picked up his fifth year option or signed him to a longer term contract after his rookie contract expired (at the end of 2018, due to not picking up the 5th year option). Randall was pretty close to being released mid-season last year. Yeah, he played better in second half of the season, but McCarthy was obviously not pleased with him at the end of the season as evidenced by his “cleaning his own house” comments. The Packers get a strong armed quarterback with some mobility to shape and mold for the next three years. He didn’t play well for the Browns last season, but many didn’t think he was ready for the NFL in 2017. Developing behind Rodgers for three years may be just the recipe for building him into something. And the Packers moved up in the fourth and fifth rounds of the 2018 draft. Cornerback is obviously going to be a focus for free agency and the draft, but the draft seems pretty deep for secondary talent.

  10. I knew GB was desperate for a backup QB, but Hundley played better than Kizer last season.

    Look like the new GM is a clone of the old GM. Values draft picks more than veteran players.

  11. Good trade. Randall is a cancer and he is joining a team full of cancers. Kizer never had a shot with that offense last year. Let him grow and learn under Rodgers. This could be a whopper for the Pack for years to come. Great move Gutey!!!

  12. I think this is good for both teams. Kizer just needs a little time to detox from Hue Jackson’s bad medicine.There is no rookie QB in the last few years, except for maybe Andrew Luck,who could have succeeded with the bad roster and Jackson’s play calling and total abandonment of the running game.

    Two years ago Josh McCown looked only slightly better than Kizer did this year and McCown was a very competent starter this year with the Jets.

  13. allight59 says:
    March 9, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    It’s official….Green Bay is the new Cleveland of the NFL…

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    That is too funny. Apparently some people don’t remember how bad the Packers were from 1968 to 1991. There was even talk of moving the team to Milwaukee after not having a winning season in 14 straight season and making the playoffs only twice in 23 years.

  14. Wow. Kizer was awful, is he even better than Brett Hundley? Seriously though. Why would you trade a solid, cheap, young, productive starting CB for a clipboard QB that will never play (even if Rodgers gets hurt)?

  15. Let me get this right, the Packers, who have a terrible defense, trade a good corner back for a quarterback that will never play another down without an interception. Sure glad you got rid of Thompson!

  16. This from Bob McGinn: Consider the end of last season. Randall played all 75 snaps in Game 14 against Carolina. Before the last two games, he was listed as questionable with a knee injury. He didn’t play in either game.

    Think that wasn’t remembered by the coaching staff? Coaches never forget someone that quits on his team.

    Two days after the last game, Randall spoke to reporters critiquing the organization as if he were a team leader. That was too much even for Mike McCarthy to stomach.

    Would you want that on your team? He was my least favorite Packer. Good move!

  17. My first thoughts were WTF are th Pack thinking but the bottom line, Randall trashed the coaches and became a head ache the players did not like either. Thus both teams got rid of guys they didn’t want but the Pack came up with a shift in trade places (this wasn’t originally mentioned in the deal) so the Pack probably did ok. Hey they can always cut Kizer too but I think they hope he can out perform Hundley and Hunley is gone.

  18. purpleguy says:
    March 9, 2018 at 11:32 pm
    That actually makes the trade a bit more understandable, but geez, Randall was a #1 pick.
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    So was Tony Mandrich.

  19. xlvbonanzai says:

    This from Bob McGinn: Consider the end of last season. Randall played all 75 snaps in Game 14 against Carolina. Before the last two games, he was listed as questionable with a knee injury. He didn’t play in either game.
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    You do realize that Rodgers quit on the team after the Carolina game, even though he suffered no injuries in said game after he had been medically cleared to play against Carolina.

    The Pack is going to reward Rodgers by making him the highest paid player in the NFL for being a quitter.

    Randall was just following the team leaders footsteps.

  20. You really think Rodgers coming back against the majority of people saying he should sit for the year, then after losing the game and being out of the playoffs shutting it down was quitting? Common man. You have to be a Viking fan to think that

  21. It’s going to take three years to really know who got the better deal here. But I do remember the last time the Packers traded for a young second year QB, it was a guy named Favre who was deeply in Atlanta’s dog house. That one worked out ok.

  22. rugolin says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:13 am
    That is too funny. Apparently some people don’t remember how bad the Packers were from 1968 to 1991. There was even talk of moving the team to Milwaukee after not having a winning season in 14 straight season and making the playoffs only twice in 23 years.
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    Who doesn’t remember that? But, Lambeau Field still sold out every game, there is still over 100,000 people on a twenty-five year waiting list, the fans enthusiastically took on a tremendous amount of construction cost to voluntarily help the team, we can still admire and remember thirteen championships, and our reward for our perseverance is Favre and Rodgers. Do I feel lucky? Damn straight I do. If I was on the outside looking in, I’d be just as jealous as the trolls posting here.

  23. rugolin says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:13 am
    That is too funny. Apparently some people don’t remember how bad the Packers were from 1968 to 1991. There was even talk of moving the team to Milwaukee after not having a winning season in 14 straight season and making the playoffs only twice in 23 years.

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    That was a long time ago.

    I recall more recently Zygi Wylf holding the state of Minnesota hostage to pay for his new stadium. Good thing they coughed up all that cash for that team to quit in the NFC championship.

    Now they will get rid of Keenum and get another free agent QB who hasn’t won a playoff game so they can keep the streak of never winning anything of mention going.

    See every team has it’s dark days. So no matter what team your a fan of you have to deal with it. Some are just much more recent than 30 years ago.

  24. stellarperformance says:

    March 10, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    rugolin says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:13 am
    That is too funny. Apparently some people don’t remember how bad the Packers were from 1968 to 1991. There was even talk of moving the team to Milwaukee after not having a winning season in 14 straight season and making the playoffs only twice in 23 years.
    /////////////////////////////////

    Who doesn’t remember that? But, Lambeau Field still sold out every game, there is still over 100,000 people on a twenty-five year waiting list, the fans enthusiastically took on a tremendous amount of construction cost to voluntarily help the team, we can still admire and remember thirteen championships, and our reward for our perseverance is Favre and Rodgers. Do I feel lucky? Damn straight I do. If I was on the outside looking in, I’d be just as jealous as the trolls posting here.

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    Once again, there is nothing to do in GB but got to a football game. hence the sellouts. And as far as feeling lucky, GB will be lucky to win 6 games this year with a healthy Rodgers.

  25. flviking says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:04 pm
    Once again, there is nothing to do in GB but got to a football game. hence the sellouts. And as far as feeling lucky, GB will be lucky to win 6 games this year with a healthy Rodgers.
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    The overwhelming majority of fans come from outside Green Bay, including me. That doesn’t align with your simple-minded dismissiveness. Maybe the Vikings should move to Rochester, MN, where they could benefit from sixty years of sell-outs because there isn’t anything else to do. You sound brilliant.

  26. Cheese Cheaters got shafted by the Cleveland Dog Piles getting a worthless fake QB in a halloween costume. But they also moved up in the draft. I’m sure the Cheese Cheater decision makes sense.

    Which alternate reality that would occur within is up for questioning.

  27. Believe it or not the headcase (Randall) was our best db last year. Even at slot he would have been serviceable. Now we got big pressure to get two db’s. They should have given up one of their 4th’s for Kizer straight up. Not a good start here Gute.

  28. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:21 pm
    Cheese Cheaters got shafted by the Cleveland Dog Piles getting a worthless fake QB in a halloween costume. But they also moved up in the draft. I’m sure the Cheese Cheater decision makes sense.

    Which alternate reality that would occur within is up for questioning.
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    Thank you for the live update from Bizarro World.

  29. stellarperformance says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    flviking says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:04 pm
    Once again, there is nothing to do in GB but got to a football game. hence the sellouts. And as far as feeling lucky, GB will be lucky to win 6 games this year with a healthy Rodgers.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    The overwhelming majority of fans come from outside Green Bay, including me. That doesn’t align with your simple-minded dismissiveness. Maybe the Vikings should move to Rochester, MN, where they could benefit from sixty years of sell-outs because there isn’t anything else to do. You sound brilliant.

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    There is plenty to do in Rochester like waterskiing , hunting golfing, fishing, hiking, ate, saw live performances, and stage plays. And if I don’t sound brilliant it’s because I sound like you on 2/25.

    stellarperformance says:
    February 25, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    I’ve waterskied, hunted, golfed, fished, hiked, ate, saw live performances, and stage plays……..OMG!……..all in Green Bay! How can that be

  30. flviking says:
    March 10, 2018 at 6:42 pm
    There is plenty to do in Rochester like waterskiing , hunting golfing, fishing, hiking, ate, saw live performances, and stage plays.

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    Sure…….I believe it…….just like Green Bay………..that’s MY point, not yours.

    You’re taking a risk exposing yourself as a poster of Fake News.

  31. Randall was garbage as a player and as a teammate. Good riddance. Kiser sucks, but at least the moved up in a couple rounds. Better than cutting Randall and getting nothing.

  32. flviking says:
    March 10, 2018 at 8:16 am
    The packers are playing checkers while the Browns are playing chess.
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    And the Vikings haven’t learned how to play either until they decide if they want an all-running back backfield, or not.

  33. Looks like the Packers were able to move up thirteen spots in each of the two rounds, and got rid of a guy they did not want. Kizer was thrown into the deal as a bonus.

    Looks pretty good to me.

  34. Randall was a huge locker room cancer. He got some lucky INT’s but also gave up a lot of 20+ yard passes in the 2nd half of the season. At least they got something for him before he would leave in Free Agency next year. I predict the Pack will get their starting right guard in the 4th or 5th round this year. As for Kizer, just about everyone knew he wasn’t near ready to play in the NFL. But the guy has all the raw tools and has a huge potential upside, much more than Hundly ever had. I just hope he isn’t too mentally damaged from what Cleveland did to him last year. The Packers will probably have to keep three QB’s on the active roster for at least the 1st half of next season.

  35. norrismen17 says:
    March 11, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Bad secondary loses starting DB making bad defense worse and the QB will never see the field. Makes perfect sense.
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    That’s funny………I’ve never seen constructive criticism like this posted by a Viking fan about the Vikings. They only want to help Green Bay. Thanks for that! Should we all assume you feel the Vikings are perfect as-is and you’ve learned to embrace the suck?

  36. stellarperformance says:
    March 11, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    norrismen17 says:
    March 11, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Bad secondary loses starting DB making bad defense worse and the QB will never see the field. Makes perfect sense.
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    That’s funny………I’ve never seen constructive criticism like this posted by a Viking fan about the Vikings. They only want to help Green Bay. Thanks for that! Should we all assume you feel the Vikings are perfect as-is and you’ve learned to embrace the suck?
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    That’s funny….I’ve seen you post criticism like this about the Vikings and now you are crying when a Viking fan does it to the Packers. Kind of like when you trashed golfing in AZ and the bragged about how you can golf in Green Bay.

    Nobody is surprised. That is just what Packer fans do. They think whatever they do is special and others are below them.

  37. Great move by the packers. They unload a stiff who was bad in their locker room. and move up in the 4th & 5th. Plus they get a back up Qb they desperately need. well done pack.

  38. bearaholic1 says:

    March 9, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Meanwhile the BEARS ARE SLEEPING !!!!!!!!!
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    Hibernating!

  39. Terrible trade.

    Like him or not, that was your best corner, and still on the cheap.

    Should have got in on the Danny Shelton deal, if they insisted on unloading Randall.

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