Browns-Bills could be priming the pump for a bigger trade

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The moment the Bills benched quarterback Tyrod Taylor last season for no apparent reason, the reasons apparently became these: (1) G.M. Brandon Beane and coach Sean McDermott are determined to get a franchise quarterback; (2) they’d seen enough of Taylor to know it’s not him; (3) they wanted to see if it could be Nathan Peterman (they quickly got an answer); and (4) they’d get a franchise quarterback in the offseason by trading up in the draft.

As noted by MDS, the Bills now have two picks in each of the first three rounds of the 2018 draft, with the latest addition coming in the form of the 65th overall selection that the Bills received from Cleveland for Tyrod Taylor. And so they have more than enough capital, starting with picks No. 21 and No. 22 in round one, to make a move into the top 10.

So who will be the trade partner? The Browns have two of the first four picks; they could take any player they want at No. 1 (a quarterback makes the most sense) and then trade the No. 4 pick to Buffalo. Or the Browns could roll the dice on getting the quarterback they want at No. 4 and send the No. 1 pick to the Bills.

Other candidates for a trade with Buffalo include the Giants at No. 2, the Colts at No. 3, the Broncos at No. 5, the Jets at No. 6, the Buccaneers at No. 7, the Bears at No. 8, the 49ers at No. 9, and the Raiders at No. 10.

The ultimate move depends in part on a variety of factors, starting with which of the big five incoming quarterbacks (Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Josh Rosen) the Bills fall in love, and whether and to what extent they love more than one of them. Another factor becomes which of the quarterback-needy teams in the top 10 (Broncos, Jets, maybe the Giants) secure a veteran in free agency or via trade.

However it unfolds, get ready for plenty of reports that the Bills are talking to every team in the top 10 about a trade up. Beane and McDermott realize the value of a franchise quarterback (they have their current jobs due in part to the franchise quarterback the Panthers picked seven years ago), and they seem to be determined to get one who will make the Bills contenders each and every year of the young quarterback’s career.

43 responses to “Browns-Bills could be priming the pump for a bigger trade

  1. ” The no apparent reason ” was being last in the league in 3rd down conversions.
    The week before there were 6 straight 3rd and between 5-9 yds. Tyrod checked down on all of them , which resulted in 6 punts.
    Good guy, wish him luck, few turnovers but just not the guy.

  2. Tyrod all heart but he goes through long stretches were he cant throw a catchable ball.
    I was stoked they just made the playoffs but he was awful in that game

  3. I don’t see the Browns trading out of 1 and 4. Under Sashi, I would have, but I am trusting Dorsey not to do that. I also don’t see them taking anyone but Barkley at 1. Reason is simple – best player available. You have a rabid fan base sick of losing. Yesterday was great, but you win by stacking the deck. Barkley stacks the deck, and wants to help the team become great again. If they draft a QB, they could do so at 4 or at 33. I still don’t think there’s an immediate great on the list, so picking a Lamar Jackson or similar talent at 33 works too.

    Unfortunately trust is a dying thing. But we have to stop stacking picks.

  4. Whoever they pick – trade up or not – dude better be able to throw in the Wind Bowl that is New Era Field (Rich Stadium). These So-Cal kids might not be able to hang. Baker Mayfield looks like the choice but this dude might be soft too.

  5. Benching Tyrod gave them an automatic L and nearly cost them a playoff spot. Not sure why Bills fans hate Tyrod. He posted solid stats and won a good amount of games.

  6. Tyrod is a very good 8-8 qb. Browns fans will see he is very inaccurate, doesn’t see open receivers and will not attempt ‘risky’ passes. Very frustrating. He would make a great backup qb for some team as he won’t hurt your team, he just can’t carry a team on his back as a starting qb has to be able to do sometimes.

  7. As a Bills fan, Taylor is the perfect bridge QB for the Browns.
    Is he an accurate passer? No, but he DOES NOT turn it over. That alone gives the Brownies a chance to develop their offense by keeping it on the field.
    He gives the Browns a possession QB, who is unbelieveably illusive.

  8. Browns and the Bills in dire need of a new QB. The more things change the more they stay the same.

  9. Lockport Lax says:
    March 10, 2018 at 9:35 am
    Tyrod is a very good 8-8 qb. Browns fans will see he is very inaccurate, doesn’t see open receivers and will not attempt ‘risky’ passes. Very frustrating. He would make a great backup qb for some team as he won’t hurt your team, he just can’t carry a team on his back as a starting qb has to be able to do sometimes.
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    Considering that’s what Hugh Jackson wants as a starter Browns fans probably won’t see that. Taylor is going to a team where a guy who checks down and doesn’t make dangerous throws means he’s relying on three of the most reliable players in the NFL (Jarvis Landry, David Njoku and Duke Johnson). The Browns biggest issue wasn’t that they didn’t have offensive weapons it was that the second they were in the red zone their QB was committing turnover after turnover when even getting sacked would still generate points via a field goal. A good game manager could have gotten that 0-16 team to the playoffs considering how many games they lost could have been won with field goals where the red zone interceptions were.

  10. Accuracy was not Tyrod Taylor’s biggest issue (62.4 career completion%). His overall numbers are very respectable, in passing, rushing, and wins-losses. He just never seems able to make enough big plays in the clutch for his team, and plays overly cautious too often.
    You might think that, given the weather in Buffalo for much of the season, that someone like Josh Allen, or even Mason Rudolph, with the rocket arms, will be a big target for them? Of course, Doug Flutie had some success there too for a while…

  11. I actually like what the Browns have done here. Taylor never had all of the weapons he’s going to have in Cleveland to be successful. If Josh Gordon can keep his head on straight and stay on the field, a receiver corps of Gordon, Landry, Coleman and Njoku is significant. Adding a running game with the top pick and maybe snag Jerrick McKinnon or the like in FA as a pass catcher out of the backfield, and the Browns are going to score points.

  12. Lockport Lax says:
    March 10, 2018 at 9:35 am
    Tyrod is a very good 8-8 qb. Browns fans will see he is very inaccurate, doesn’t see open receivers and will not attempt ‘risky’ passes. Very frustrating. He would make a great backup qb for some team as he won’t hurt your team, he just can’t carry a team on his back as a starting qb has to be able to do sometimes.
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    That’s true, but the Browns were in many winnable games the past 2 seasons that they lost because the QBs were turnover machines who made terrible decisions. He sounds like a great
    bridge QB for when you want to be competitive and not throw games away but know you have someone else waiting to take it to the next level.

  13. Tyrod is a bridge (if the Browns don’t trade him off) for the rookie QB they will draft this year.

  14. 3 of the 5 of these QB’s won’t last more than 2 years. It’s a win now league and 3 of them aren’t ready. Baker will be a bust. He’s not going to make it. If you’re a Browns fan you better hope they take Barkley so that whatever QB they end up with has a running game. They’re gonna need it

  15. I think Bills and Browns have a deal in the works for Browns 4th in 1st..Because the Browns did the Bills a favor here with Taylor..Highest pic in 3rd..Basiclly a 2nd and taking off almost 11 Mil from Bills cap..thats a lot for a bottom feeder runer/Qb that has NO chance of being anything but a back-up…So I think with the Bills Draft pics they might Overpay to move into that 4th pick..but in the end because of Browns Overpaying for Taylor it all evens itself out ….

  16. Just a question to Bills fans (and don’t beat me for it), could Lesean McCoy be the next trade bait? I guess you never know with Trader Beane. Year one with a rookie QB is basically a building process and this may have some merit?

  17. Cousins not even mentioned as an outside possibility for the Bills? There has already been four surprise trades that I didn’t expect, so I guess the Patriots could trade Brady, and sign Cousins. Been what I consider some crazy moves, so far.

  18. Bills need to aim for winning the AFC East every year. Tough target that wasn’t going to be reached with Taylor. Possibility goes up with Foles….. Mayfield ….. Bradford (if healthy) or Keenum. I think there’s still a surprise veteran candidate in the mix, too, one not in the news as “available.”

  19. The bills are not going to go with her bookie quarterback this season. They’re going to call the Philadelphia Eagles and trade for Nick Foles. They’re going to give up a first-rounder and a third-rounder in this year’s draft for him. He will be reunited with Sean McDermott and LeSean McCoy who is his boy. This will happen sometime this week before the League’s New Year starts.

  20. ”they [the Browns] could take any player they want at No. 1 (a quarterback makes the most sense) and then”

    No. It seems very hard to determine the best QB in this group. Barkley is easily the best RB, and a unique talent.

  21. unbiasednfltruth says:
    March 10, 2018 at 8:59 am
    Best option is two first for something in the 10-14 range probably Bears. Good for both teams and there will be QBs there the Bills will like.

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    You’re crazy if you think the Bills will trade #21 and #22 for #8. If you look at the draft value chart, the Bears pick is worth 1,400. #21 is worth 800, and #22 is worth 780. #21 and #22 is worth closer to the Jets at #6 (but there is no way the Jets would trade within the division value for value). For the Chicago trade to be “even,” they would have to give up #8, #115, and #145 for #21 and #22.

  22. in Buffalo its Now become a “race” thing…on Radio the blk fans hate this move..You can tell their blk by their tone..Slang..Sorry but its the truth !!!!..tyrod wasn’t a QB..JUST A GUY THAT Could Run…He had Mcoy,Woods,Goodwin ,Watkins,Clay…Look at Woods and Goodwins #’s this year on different teams..BOTH leading in Receiving on New teams!!!!..Tyrod was a slot receiver Not a Qb !!!!!!

  23. That franchise QB may very well be Nick Foles. Won’t have to spend a lot of assets to move up to draft a QB who may or may not work out down the road. Plus he has a connection to McDermott and LeSean McCoy. I can see this happening.

  24. I thought Tyrod played better than Bortles in the playoffs. The Bills defense had a mental breakdown and allowed Bortles to extend plays with his legs. Yet the Jaguars are sticking with Bortles.

  25. Kareem Hunt in the 3rd will turn out to be an historically great draft pick, just like Jamaal Charles was, again in the 3rd. You don’t draft RB’s that high. It’s a fools game.

  26. Wow…Smoke signals say the Browns take Saquon Barkley # 1 and Baker Mayfield at # 4. Why else trade for Tyrod?
    Tyrod starts the first half of the season, Mayfield will predictably be available at the #4 pick and when he steps in the OC won’t have to radically overall the offense for the switch out.

  27. Some excellent comments but then some daily trolls I see. Enjoy reading the views on this upcoming year. It’s really getting exciting!

  28. I don’t think the Bills can afford to trade up in the draft and trade for Foles. Philly is facing cap problems so they are going to want draft pick(s)…supposedly turned down a 2nd from the Bills for Foles. If Joe Thomas retires, Cleveland could accept Cordy Glenn as part of the package from the Bills which might ease up on how many picks it will take for the Bills to move up to 4. If I’m Cleveland I take Barkley at 1 and a QB at 4. Bills will have to target Indy or NYG and if Barkley is gone then I think the NYG might be willing to deal

  29. Unless they thought there was a ‘sure thing’ at QB this year, why would the Bills need to move up to 1 or 4? Looking at the the teams who could grab a QB ahead of the Bills, at 1. Browns, 2. Giants, 5. Broncos, 6. Jets, 11. Dolphins, 15. Cardinals, 16. Ravens, 17. Chargers. I believe Jackon and Rudolph will be available at 20/21. So if you wanted one of the other 4 (Allen, Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold), best bet is to get ahead of Miami (10 Raiders), which wouldn’t cost you all your picks. Although I would wait it out at the Draft, see if the Giants pass, that would allow the Bills to wait until 14 (Green Bay) to make a trade.

  30. Hard to say who of the top 3 (Allen, Rosen, and Baker) and the next tier (Darnold, Jackson, Rudolph) the Bills like and at what price. I’m going to guess that the Bills won’t go more than the two ones in 18, a 2nd in 18, the 1st in 2019 plus Cordy Glenn. Given the competition, for the top 3, overpaying to some degree is a given, but the Bills won’t overpay unless it’s THEIR GUY.

  31. The Bills won’t go after either cousins or foles or McClarron as none of these guys qualify as a bridge QB. Bradford and Bridgewater, McCown, Tom Savage seem more likely and cost-effective.

  32. lo678501721 says:
    Although I would wait it out at the Draft, see if the Giants pass, that would allow the Bills to wait until 14 (Green Bay) to make a trade.
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    And GB would be happy to make that trade. Bills get #14 and GB gets the Bills (1)#21, (2)#53
    and (4)#121.

  33. And GB would be happy to make that trade. Bills get #14 and GB gets the Bills (1)#21, (2)#53
    and (4)#121.
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    I’m sure they would have, but the Bills made the better trade with Cincy by going to #12 and keeping their draft capital.

  34. “The bills are not going to go with her bookie quarterback this season. They’re going to call the Philadelphia Eagles and trade for Nick Foles. They’re going to give up a first-rounder and a third-rounder in this year’s draft for him. He will be reunited with Sean McDermott and LeSean McCoy who is his boy. This will happen sometime this week before the League’s New Year starts.”

    Um……the new league year has started and Foles is still a Philadelphia Eagle. That aside, what connection is there between Foles and McDermott? Hadn’t McDermott already been fired by the Eagles by the time that Foles was there?

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