Joe Thomas: Richard Sherman “got absolutely crushed” by the 49ers

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Joe Thomas may be retiring from the NFL later this week. For now, though, he remains an active member of an NFL roster, and he’s actively criticizing a contract another player signed after negotiating the deal by himself.

“You really feel bad for Richard Sherman, but this is clearly a case of ego getting in the way of his pocket book,” Thomas said on Twitter regarding Sherman’s new deal. “He got absolutely crushed on this contract while working as his own agent.”

Sherman, who resented having to write checks to agents for a percentage of his pay, believed he could do as well or better on his own. And he actually thinks that he did as well as any experienced agent could have done by negotiating a deal that gives him guaranteed money (with an important caveat) in 2019 and 2020 if he makes it to the Pro Bowl in 2018.

But Thomas realizes that a player who bets on himself and shouldn’t regard winning as the team keeping him on the roster with illusory protections like an injury guarantee that doesn’t even vest until next March but with a crack at returning to the open market on the heels of a healthy and effective season. That’s the true payoff for a player who bets on himself and has the bet pay off.

Thomas refers to ego getting in the way of Sherman’s pocket book. Ego also will prevent Sherman from ever admitting that he did a bad deal. Which means he’ll never complain about the deal that he did. The danger for Sherman and the 49ers is that, if he ever realizes deep down that the 49ers put one over on him (if, for example, he starts the season on the PUP or NFI list and doesn’t qualify for a $2 million roster bonus that supposedly was part of a $5 million signing bonus), other things that otherwise may not have bothered him may become a much bigger deal, with his frustration over the contract negotiation being directed to something unrelated.

For the 49ers, the best outcome would be for Sherman to never think he did a bad deal. Really, that would be the best outcome for all teams, because the more that players do their own deals, the easier it will be for teams to get players to do bad deals, ideally without ever realizing that they’ve done bad deals.

52 responses to “Joe Thomas: Richard Sherman “got absolutely crushed” by the 49ers

  1. I think Sherman just wanted the end Number to sound high
    of course most NFL contracts sound better than they really
    are.

  2. Sherman is rolling the dice, why not? He’s made lots of money from the game already. He can afford to go double or nothing with the 9ers. Don’t think that won’t be in the back of the minds of Pro Bowl voters when it comes time. Pro Bowl is a popularity contest as much as anything and Rich just gave himself a 40 yard head start.

  3. Joe Thomas is a smart dude, and will be great in the media when he retires(hopefully in 4-5 years)
    Meanwhile, expect Sherman to be doing situps in his driveway with his shirt off, when he realizes what he signed.

  4. Saw a special on the show 60mins about Joe Thomas. Seems like a great guy and a real smart guy.

    But if the deal was so team friendly and one sided in the organizations favor.
    How come the other three reported teams did not agree to match or possibly sweeten the deal as reported by Peter Kings mmqb?

  5. Joe, how many playoff appearances do you have? How many winning seasons have you had? How many Super Bowl Rings do you have?

  6. Poor Richard, thinks that Stanford education made him an attorney. Much like my comments make me think I can play NFL football.

  7. Seriously, who cares? If Sherman likes the contract and wants to play in San Francisco, that’s all the matters. Believe it or not, not everyone works for who will pay them the most. Many other factors come into play.

  8. Everybody defines success differently. Sherman has made plenty of money, and now has the experience of negotiating an NFL contract. Not many people can say that.

  9. Deion Sanders said its most pathetic contract he’s ever seen someone negotiate. And the number showed its most Team friendly contract of all time. Richard Sherman showed he doesn’t have a real Stanford degree he just coasted through with football. Poor guy.

  10. Ridiculous, and I’m no fan of Sherman.

    Criticizing the furniture in someone else’s living room says more about you than it does the person being critiqued.

  11. If these players were as concerned about the terrible CBA they negotiated as they are with Sherman’s contract they would have guaranteed contracts and a roster payroll inflation that matches the growth of league revenue.

    Richard Sherman is the prototype CB for the 49ers defense and they would love for him to earn every cent of that contract, believe me.

    People were ridiculing Prime Time when he took way less money to play with the 49ers. When great players bet on themselves they usually come out on top.

  12. Joe Thomas has proved himself on and off the field. He openly defended Brady in Deflategate while guys like the Manning brothers were, at best, mealy mouthed. He has every right to let other NFL players know the should respect Sherman but not follow his lead of negotiating for himself.

  13. I don’t get it. He’s making more money than what the Seahawks, or any other team were willing to give him. He’s also playing on an up and coming team while his former team is trending downward.

  14. tommythek says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:10 pm
    Joe Thomas is a smart dude, and will be great in the media when he retires(hopefully in 4-5 years)
    Meanwhile, expect Sherman to be doing situps in his driveway with his shirt off, when he realizes what he signed.

    44 14 Rate This

    Staying your entire career in Cleveland is Not Smart.

  15. Agent or not, Sherman is recovering from 2 achilles injuries. That’s hardly being able to negotiate from a position of strength. There are only so many teams who want to take a chance on you. Sherman wanted to play in California, allowing his parents and family to see him play, and he wanted to remain in a division he was very familiar with. Sherman made a choice, and he is happy with his choice. What is Thomas’ problem? How’s about showing some class and minding your own business?

  16. faithful49er707 says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm
    Saw a special on the show 60mins about Joe Thomas. Seems like a great guy and a real smart guy.

    But if the deal was so team friendly and one sided in the organizations favor.
    How come the other three reported teams did not agree to match or possibly sweeten the deal as reported by Peter Kings mmqb?

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    Because he wants to play Seattle twice a year to say “I told you so” like any meathead who gets his brains bashed in for a living would do. He was never going to Detroit. He was going to either SF, LA, or ARIZ. That’s all. He would have signed in SF for a bag of peanuts.

  17. joe thomas is turning into the mark cuban of players, constantly running his mouth

    a cb past 30 with two blown out achilles was just wildly overpaid by a team with a lot of “cap space”.

    sherman had little
    leverage with his rehab situation

  18. Why is Joe Thomas thinking about retirement? Is he tired of making money or is he tired of losing? Go look in the mirror Joe. Would you take more money so you can work for a losing team? Or would you be thinking about retirement if you have a SB ring because you were playing for the Eagles last season and had loads of fun winning?

  19. Good or bad, if anything it should be a warning to every rookie and NFL player to just get a qualified agent.
    You hear that Lamar Jackson. Send your Mama back home it’s time you grew up and started to make your own decisions.

  20. Sherman was a pro bowler with the Legion of Boom, one of the best defensive TEAMS ever. It will be much harder for him to make the pro bowl without that kind of talent around him again!

  21. So the incentives were too rich for the Seahawks, (whom he gave the right of first refusal) too rich for the Lions, too rich for the Raiders, but this guy says he got crushed. The dude is set to make 40mil+ coming off an Achilles and 30yrs of age. I’ll take the Stanford grad over someone who clearly chased the dollar to stay in Cleveland his entire career.

  22. Joe Thomas is a smart man and a class act–and he’s looking out for the interests of young players who may follow Sherman’s lead and destroy their long-term financial benefits. Players may not like paying a percentage of their salaries to agents, but those people are their protection against getting burned. You can be sure the 49ers aren’t signing contracts that haven’t been first vetted by attorneys. Only idiots do that.

  23. Not a bad deal especially considering there aren’t a ton of teams lining up to give a 30 year old db coming off an achilles injury a bunch of money. Also gets to stay close to home. Thomas should worry about his own money

  24. I think Joe Thomas should just retire…who the hell is he to criticize another player representing himself. Sherman agreed to the contract the Niners offered him…it’s full of incentives, which is something RS wanted. Getting released unceremoniously by the Seahawks has stirred up his competitive juices…you know he’s going to want to rub it in their faces they shouldn’t have let him go. Thomas can do whatever he wants WRT negotiating a contract…he has no experience being a FA, so just shut up.

  25. 26predator says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:33 pm

    Ridiculous, and I’m no fan of Sherman.

    Criticizing the furniture in someone else’s living room says more about you than it does the person being critiqued.

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    Not if it’s plastic chairs you find at the supermarket and he says it’s designer furniture. At some point you have to call people out on bs.

    There’s looking the other way to be nice, and then there’s giving someone a reality check.

    With this contract he can say one thing and one thing only….

    He ultimately went to the team he wanted to.

    He cannot say it’s a good deal or this or that, because that’s insane.

    People keep conflating where they want to go and a what a good contract is.

    He signed a bad contract with a team he wanted to play for.

    If he just stated that, no one would mind. When he tries to play it up, people will rightfully call him out, and people who don’t know the difference between the two will back him up on his idiocy.

    How hard is it for people to understand this?

  26. The saying about lawyers is “A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client.”

    Same with football players. Let experts do what experts do. They’re worth the money.

  27. Joe Thomas flapping his gums like he is someone…. Yet again… I will be glad when this big mouth finally retires or Cleveland sends his fat mouth elsewhere.

  28. I have no doubt that Sherman will be on the field and will perform at a level that gets him his incentive pay. With his having medical issues, I wonder what an agent would have gotten for him? I suspect an agent would have tried to talk him into a make it/prove it contract and go back to the open market next off season. Essentially, that is what this is as the 2019 and 2020 money wont be guaranteed unless he performs at that elite level………He will. I am still a fan and believer of Sherman. Except when playing against the Seahawks, that is…….

  29. What Sherman really did here is ruin any chance he ever had to be the president of the NFLPA…which has been on his mind for several years now. But if you cannot negotiate for yourself without allowing emotion to get in the way, how can you expect to negotiate for others?

  30. So Richard Sherman calls the other three teams and says “the 49ers are giving me three years 39 million, can you beat that?”

    Of course the answer was no.

    Richard is the agent that released those big numbers initially to make himself feel better and try to make it seem like he got 13 million a year… then the real numbers came out.

    Richard Sherman has a gigantic ego and the Seahawks cutting him hurt him and angered him more than he will ever admit. Credit to John Lynch for taking advantage of his desire to stick it to the Seahawks…it’s not like Jim Harbaugh’s there anymore.

  31. tommythek says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:10 pm
    Joe Thomas is a smart dude, and will be great in the media when he retires(hopefully in 4-5 years)
    Meanwhile, expect Sherman to be doing situps in his driveway with his shirt off, when he realizes what he signed.
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    … and you base this off… what? The fact that you like one guy and not the other?

    Certainly not armed with knowledge of how Rich handles his business affairs and manages his money. That is for sure.

  32. tommythek says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:10 pm
    Joe Thomas is a smart dude, and will be great in the media when he retires(hopefully in 4-5 years)
    Meanwhile, expect Sherman to be doing situps in his driveway with his shirt off, when he realizes what he signed.
    ——–

    Especially since he has made it clear that he invests in real estate, stocks, saves 60% of each of his paychecks, etc.

    So what are you really getting at? LOL

  33. Deb says:
    March 12, 2018 at 6:18 pm
    Joe Thomas is a smart man and a class act–and he’s looking out for the interests of young players who may follow Sherman’s lead and destroy their long-term financial benefits. Players may not like paying a percentage of their salaries to agents, but those people are their protection against getting burned. You can be sure the 49ers aren’t signing contracts that haven’t been first vetted by attorneys. Only idiots do that.
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    Who even knows how smart (or not) Joe Thomas is? Just because you like him? Rich knows what he is doing.

    You speak as if every player is negotiating their own deals. Once you are at your third contract, you generally understand that every year is a prove-it deal. How you construct the verbiage in any subsequent years is where the real negotiations come in.

    People try to be so deep about this NFL contract stuff, and despite all the explanations from those of us who are privy to the information on a daily basis as part of our academic and professional careers, you STILL don’t get it.

    I said as soon as he got cut that SF made the most sense for him and that it would be incentive-laden. He did not need an agent to get him ESSENTIALLY what he would have gotten in the first place. The only other thing he could have gotten was more guaranteed money this year. And with a percentage of that going to an agent, what’s the difference?

    Do not think for one minute that just because he brokered the deal that it means he did so without ANY counsel.

  34. faithful49er707 says:
    March 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm
    Saw a special on the show 60mins about Joe Thomas. Seems like a great guy and a real smart guy.

    But if the deal was so team friendly and one sided in the organizations favor.
    How come the other three reported teams did not agree to match or possibly sweeten the deal as reported by Peter Kings mmqb?

    This!!! Why aren’t the nay-sayers talking about the fact that several other teams passed on such a “weak” contract?

  35. Joe Thomas is delusional if he thinks making over 500,000 in any financial year is getting “crushed”. Of course it’s all relative to other contracts being signed within your profession however the money Sherman will make this year is more than at least 50% of the population of the U.S. However the lack of perspective from a professional athlete is not surprising at all.

  36. Joe Thomas is a clown. Anyone who willingly stayed in Cleveland his whole career isn’t really in a position to mock others.

    I’m not a fan of Sherman yet I hope he does well and hits all the incentives. He signed a contract which is like what most fans keep whining they want players to do and here we are with many fans mocking him for it. Brilliant low IQ fans.

  37. “He who represents himself has a fool for a client.”

    Agents get 3%, not exactly a huge cut to ensure you are getting the best deal possible.

  38. Money can’t buy happiness, but if it could, Sherman already has plenty of money. Sherman has tasted winning. That’s something Joe Thomas can’t talk about. He’s never been on a winning team, so he doesn’t know what it tastes like. I’m sure a losing organization like Cleveland would have paid Sherman a lot more money, but Sherman already has all the money he’ll ever need. I just think it’s short-sighted to think a few extra bucks is as important as living the life you want to live. Sherman made an intelligent decision. Have any of you lived in the San Francisco Bay Area. There’s a reason why the billionaires who own Facebook, Apple, etc., all live within 15 miles of Santa Clara. These people could live anywhere on earth. Sherman went to school at Stanford, so he’s tasted that too. Go check out comparable home prices in Cleveland and Santa Clara. There’s a good reason people pay all that money to live in the Bay Area. Maybe Sherman was thinking about his family too. Where do you think they’d rather live?

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