Paul Allen: Some Vikings “elated” by the news of Kirk Cousins coming to town

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In recent weeks, multiple Broncos and multiple Cardinals players had made it known that they want Kirk Cousins to quarterback their teams. No Vikings player had gone public about wanting Cousins, inviting speculation that maybe they’d rather keep Case Keenum, Sam Bradford, or Teddy Bridgewater.

It’s a potential consequence of breaking the bank for a free agent and bidding farewell to multiple players who had been on the roster and in the locker room. The guys who were there may not warm up to the new guy who supplanted three other guys.

While some players possibly feel that way, it’s hardly universal. Appearing on PFT Live, Paul Allen of KFAN said that some Vikings are privately “elated” by the news that Cousins is joining the cause.

Although the move increases expectations, perhaps unreasonably, for the Vikings, Allen is convinced that Cousins becomes a significant upgrade at the position. That won’t keep outsiders from regarding the Vikings as a Super Bowl-or-bust proposition over the next few years, with the Cousins experiment regarded as a failure if/when the Vikings continue a streak of futility that dates back more than 40 years, to their fourth and most recent los in the championship game.

71 responses to “Paul Allen: Some Vikings “elated” by the news of Kirk Cousins coming to town

  1. He’s an upgrade for sure. He’s also never had the offensive or defensive talent around him that he’s going to have. It should be a good run the next few years. Still quit a bit of cap space left too.

  2. Paying record breaking contract money to a QB who is not even a top 10 player is not smart. The Vikings will probably do well in 2018, but their fans are going to find out very shortly how impossible it is to pay a top shelf defense and a QB at the same time.

    But then again, they may choke. it’s the Vikings. Every. Single. Time. their fans start crowing, they screw it up. I wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t make the playoffs.

  3. It’s the beginning of the end of the Vikings brief run, unless Cousins tranforms himself into Aaron Rodgers. As an Eagles fan, I don’t see that happening.

  4. Paul Allen should move to SFO, where he could team with Richard Sherman as two of the most obnoxious loudmouths in the business.

  5. It’s not Case’s fault his defense got crushed by the Eagles. That’s squarely on Zimmer.

  6. There are defenders who are thinking that they won’t be getting paid by the Vikings. Nothing better then seeing a competitor overpay for an average player.

  7. Oh am I enjoying this… Vikings players and Vikings fans are going to be even more jacked up than they were last year. And when they fail again to get to the Super Bowl, it will even be more fun listening to them cry.
    This is not Joe Montana you just signed, guys. This is Kirk Cousins, a guy who has never won anything and who has played his worst football when he needed to play his best. And — you went way over the top by giving him all that money and guaranteeing it, no less!!!
    Your team never learns.
    Here’s the reality. You still have the 2nd worst QB in the division. Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford are both better than Cousins, and it’s not even debatable. And in a year or two, Mitch Trubisky will be better than he is, too.

  8. This is not just to rip into Vikings but sincerely as a Packer fan, I was much more worried to face Case Keenum. The Packers were 0-2 (without Rodgers albeit) against Case and he seemed like he has a special knack to cut apart our average D. But the Pack has never had an issue against Kirk. The Pack is 2-0 vs Kirk and he never caused you, as a fan, to be really worried as Case did. So . . . welcome Kirk!

  9. Only one NFL quarterback has averaged at least 4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns and a 90.0 or better quarterback rating over the past three seasons and his name is…Kirk Cousins. Take into account he’s played on some pretty bad Redskins teams including last year with no weapons around him (Doctson, Crowder and Vernon Davis?) plus a weak running attack and horrible defense. Imagine what he could do throwing to studs like Diggs, Theilen & Rudolph plus Cook & Murray in the backfield and the #1 defense in the NFL? And despite the big contract, the Vikings are still in excellent shape with the salary cap and can add depth on the O-line and D-line through free agency and the draft.

  10. QB was not the reason the Vikings lost to the Eagles. The Shurmur-Keenum combination was more than enough to win a Super Bowl. Line depth on both sides was the reason the season ended when it did. When you’re running out of gas in your car, changing the oil doesn’t help. Now the Vikings have a somewhat unknown commodity at QB, have lost their “QB whisperer, and have set themselves up for future salary cap issues.

  11. Hey if you enjoy a check down machine in the passing game then Captain Kirk is your guy, his “big throws” came in games where the Redskins were behind with no chance to win. Life long skins fan, glad he is gone…

  12. r8dernation says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:49 am
    It’s not Case’s fault his defense got crushed by the Eagles. That’s squarely on Zimmer.
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    It wasn’t the defense that gave up the pick 6 when the Vikings could have went up by two scores. It wasn’t the defense that gave up the strip sack/fumble in the red zone. Any defense will tire when they are on the field all day. The offense didn’t do jack crap after the first series. 3 and outs left and right, the defense had no rest. All the best defenses in league have bad games, but Keenum with that horrible pick against the Saints that got them back in the game, then the pick 6 against the Eagles were the back breakers.

    I’m not saying that Cousins will be difference, but I’ll take a guy who has put up over 4000 yards every single year he has been a starter, with nowhere near the weapons he will have here, over a guy who has had 1 good season in his 6 year career. Keenum played great last year, but he is not proven, Cousins can put up big numbers and has proved it. On a team like the Vikings, he just needs to be himself and the rest of the team will compliment him, unlike his days in Washington.

  13. Cousins has no history of postseason success….and the Vikings have no real expectations of postseason success. It’s a perfect match.

  14. 4sacroc says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:55 am

    Anything short of a Super Bowl will be failure. Good
    luck.

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    That’s how it should be for every team every year.

  15. It’s the end of the Eagle without DeFilippo there. Do you forget how bad Foles was the last four years? DeFilippo will do for Cousins what he did for Foles.
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    chumpley says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:48 am
    It’s the beginning of the end of the Vikings brief run, unless Cousins tranforms himself into Aaron Rodgers. As an Eagles fan, I don’t see that happening.

  16. Case was part of the problem for losing the championship game. He only threw for one td, which didn’t help the defense and the team’s chance.

  17. The three QBs that the Vikings are letting go are all better than this guy. He seems like a decent guy, and is a decent QB, but he doesn’t seem to have those special qualities that would make a team pay that much and especially guarantee that much.

    And speaking of guarantees, I guarantee you that Vikings fans will be calling out that “Case wouldn’t have thrown that INT!” and “Teddy would have run for that first down!” Not to mention the head shaking and what-might-have-beens that will accompany thoughts of the purple idol Drew Brees.

    #skoldat

  18. sandbox1978 says:

    March 14, 2018 at 11:02 am

    QB was not the reason the Vikings lost to the Eagles. The Shurmur-Keenum combination was more than enough to win a Super Bowl. Line depth on both sides was the reason the season ended when it did. When you’re running out of gas in your car, changing the oil doesn’t help. Now the Vikings have a somewhat unknown commodity at QB, have lost their “QB whisperer, and have set themselves up for future salary cap issues
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    While some of what you say is true, needing a miracle in one game and scoring 7 pts in the other isn’t exactly an explosive offensive.

  19. To Packer fans: if having an elite H.O.F. QB is all you need to win championships, then please explain why Favre and Rodgers only have one each. 25+ years with two of the all-time great QBs and only two championships? The last team to have back-to-back HOF QBs were the 49ers and they won FIVE championships over a 13 year period. Maybe that’s because they didn’t just depend on Montana & Young, but surrounded them with other great players. By ignoring the rest of your team, you continue to just keep wasting Rodgers window of opportunity. Believe it or not, he can’t just do it by himself.

  20. I like how everyone talks about his number in Washington and that’s with “no one around him”. 2 of his 3 years in DC, he had DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon. Not to mention Jordan Reed (a top 3 TE when healthy). Don’t forget about Jamison Crowder. On top of that, he has arguably one of the best LTs blocking his blind side, and a probowl Guard. 3 of his 5 offensive lineman are at the top of their positions. The missing factor is a running game. Which doesn’t hurt kirk, but only helps him pad his stats. This past year, he did have big numbers but only in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. He can’t close out games. Dude is over rated. Face it.

  21. Consider this – what if Brady was the Vikings QB in 2016 when the Vikings had that really horrible Oline? Do you really think he could have had a good year??? No. Nothing against Brady. You need a good team around you to see how good you really are. Let’s just see how well Cousins does, before we all label ourselves as experts regarding this matter.

  22. Let me add that Paul Allen is a complete hack. The only thing his mouth is good for is comedy hour when the Vikes screw up. So, actually… he’s pretty awesome to listen to on a fairly regular basis.

  23. nyneal says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:51 am
    Oh am I enjoying this… Vikings players and Vikings fans are going to be even more jacked up than they were last year. And when they fail again to get to the Super Bowl, it will even be more fun listening to them cry.
    This is not Joe Montana you just signed, guys. This is Kirk Cousins, a guy who has never won anything and who has played his worst football when he needed to play his best. And — you went way over the top by giving him all that money and guaranteeing it, no less!!!
    Your team never learns.
    Here’s the reality. You still have the 2nd worst QB in the division. Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford are both better than Cousins, and it’s not even debatable. And in a year or two, Mitch Trubisky will be better than he is, too.

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    Multiple reams that we’re trying to get Cousins had players make public pleas. Von Miller from the Broncos, DJ and Fitzgerald from the Cardinals. You remember Fitz. But nyneal knows better then them. lol.

  24. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:47 am
    Here is one die hard Vikings fan who is not optimistic.

    What is Spielman now, 0 for 7 on QB transactions?

    ____

    Well, if he was 0-7 then none of the guys on the roster last year were the answer either. Might as well take another shot then huh?

  25. March 14, 2018 at 11:11 am
    To Packer fans: if having an elite H.O.F. QB is all you need to win championships, then please explain why Favre and Rodgers only have one each. 25+ years with two of the all-time great QBs and only two championships? The last team to have back-to-back HOF QBs were the 49ers and they won FIVE championships over a 13 year period. Maybe that’s because they didn’t just depend on Montana & Young, but surrounded them with other great players. By ignoring the rest of your team, you continue to just keep wasting Rodgers window of opportunity. Believe it or not, he can’t just do it by himself.
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    Simple answer here: The salary cap. The hard salary cap occurred in the early 90s AFTER the Montana dynasty. Young one one Super Bowl with the 9ers going all in and they were mediocre and old in the late 90s, then awful for 10 years. The only team to successfully beat the salary cap is the Patriots. And they have the best coach and GM since Lombardi running the show and a HOF QB whose wife makes 15x what any football player will make in his life, so his cap hit is ludicrously low.

  26. PA is a joke. A shill for the team. Go back and listen to his program the week before that pathetic excuse for a head coach, Brad Childress, was hired. PA says “You know who I really like, this offensive coordinator from the Eagles, Brad Childress.” Everyone knew the guy didn’t call the offensive plays, but old PA was told to pump him up for the clowns that listen to his show.

  27. Cousins isn’t a savior, but is likely the best option. Keenum won’t be able to recreate 2017/18 and Bradford/Bridgewater are too uncertain health wise. The team had a $23M QB cap hit last year and was still $17M under the cap, allowing the team to frontoad Cousins’ contract. Cap wise the team will be fine. With the tough sched, this is a 10 to 11 win team.

    The only certainty, as predicted, is that the cheesers (and that one Pats fan) we’re gonna criticize whatever the Vikes did – like predicting the sun rising in the east.

  28. Here’s the reality. You still have the 2nd worst QB in the division. Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford are both better than Cousins, and it’s not even debatable. And in a year or two, Mitch Trubisky will be better than he is, too.

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    If the vikings had given the money to Stafford, would that be OK? Hes never done anything. Cousins actually has better numbers than Stafford.

  29. noringsforvikings says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:10 am
    The three QBs that the Vikings are letting go are all better than this guy. He seems like a decent guy, and is a decent QB, but he doesn’t seem to have those special qualities that would make a team pay that much and especially guarantee that much.
    *****
    All three are better? Both Bridgewater and Bradford are huge question marks because of major knee issues. Teddy literally almost lost his leg while Bradford has been injured most of his career. Also, I don’t remember Von Miller, Emmanuel Sanders, Demaryius Thomas or Larry Fitzgerald actively recruiting Keenum, Bradford or Teddy but they did express a desire for Cousins. I guess they should have consulted with you first since you obviously know way more than they do.

  30. cabosan1978 says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:57 am

    This is not just to rip into Vikings but sincerely as a Packer fan, I was much more worried to face Case Keenum. The Packers were 0-2 (without Rodgers albeit) against Case and he seemed like he has a special knack to cut apart our average D.
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    Case’s games against the packers were a couple of his worst last season. I just want to point that out.

  31. lenthevikesfan says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:07 am
    4sacroc says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:55 am

    Anything short of a Super Bowl will be failure. Good
    luck.

    ————————-
    That’s how it should be for every team every year.

    ============

    Firstly, I doubt that is the sentiment in Cleveland. Secondly, the Vikes cut loose a guy who led them to the NFC championship game for a guy who has never won a playoff game. It’s Super Bowl or bust for Zimmer + Co.

  32. The Pack is 2-0 vs Kirk and he never caused you, as a fan, to be really worried as Case did. So . . . welcome Kirk!
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    11-20-2016
    Redskins 42-Packers 24
    Cousins 375 yards 3 tds 0 int and a 145 Qb rating

  33. Roll back to 2001 and the Ravens seemed to make a great signing when they signed Elvis Grbac. He was coming off a 4000 yard season and the Ravens needed a passing attack. On paper looked a great move.

    9 months later it was seen as a dire move and Grbac left

    Not saying Cousins will fail here but as a Raiders fan i know what ‘great’ offseason signings in March dont look as good 9 months later.

  34. Vikings building a dynasty while the Packers, as Colin Herd declared, have done the impossible by having no salary cap and a horrible roster…

  35. Steve Carmi ,

    I know. People have killed me with the he didn’t have anything around him theme that the Cousins fan boys bring up. McCloughan stacked that team in the little time he was there. The weak link, Cousins and Gruden. They got rid of half the problem. Watch them magically improve.

  36. Steve Carmi says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:17 am
    I like how everyone talks about his number in Washington and that’s with “no one around him”. 2 of his 3 years in DC, he had DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon. Not to mention Jordan Reed (a top 3 TE when healthy). Don’t forget about Jamison Crowder.
    *****
    You just made my point. His first two years numbers were much better with Jackson, Garcon and Reed (who played at least 12 games both years). Last year his numbers fell off a bit without Jackson, Garcon and only having a healthy Reed for 6 games. Crowder, Doctson, Pryor and Davis is a huge dropoff in talent. Cousins should be even better with a stronger supporting cast and the Vikings provide that.

  37. Or maybe the Vikings players kept their mouths shut because if the didn’t land Cousins it would have been severely contentious in the locker room with Keenum, Bradford or Teddy.

  38. lenthevikesfan says:

    Case’s games against the packers were a couple of his worst last season. I just want to point that out.
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    Well thank you for pointing that out. Now I question even more why MN let him walk.

  39. All silliness and disparagement aside, it’s the right move for the Vikings. Their team is in a good position- great defense, Dalvin Cook coming back, very good and maybe great receiving corps, all now with a year of playoff seasoning and a trip to the NFCCG under their belt, with a stinging end to the season and a hunger to get back. Quarterbacks are just going to get silly money, even the ones that are speculatively good or put up a single year of good performance. It’s hard to win a Super Bowl, so they need to swing for the fences now. Cousins doesn’t even need to be spectacular; he just needs to keep throwing TD’s and avoid the poorly timed turnover and cut down on his fumbles.

  40. nhpats says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:07 am
    Cousins has no history of postseason success….and the Vikings have no real expectations of postseason success. It’s a perfect match.
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    Because he was on a not so good team that he never made the play-offs duh! In Minnesota we believe in team play and dont’ ride the back of one guy like they do in Green Bay . We learned that lesson from AP,

  41. zerotrophiessince1961 says:

    Paying record breaking contract money to a QB who is not even a top 10 player is not smart. The Vikings will probably do well in 2018, but their fans are going to find out very shortly how impossible it is to pay a top shelf defense and a QB at the same time.
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    And paying an even higher record breaking contract (as Rodgers is demanding to be paid the most in the NFL again) to a QB that is damaged goods (did you see how he played after being medically cleared last season in Carolina) is even less smart.

    The Vikings defense is (and will be) clearly superior to what the Packers put on the field.

    The Vikings will still have around $27 mil in cap space to get new contracts done for the upcoming defensive contracts for Barr, Kendricks and Hunter. I expect that at least 2 new deals will be finalized before training camp.

    And remember, The Packers made Rodgers the highest paid player in the NFL in 2013 and despite that contract, he’s back in front of management with his hand out asking for more money again…

  42. Some of their better defensive players were elated. They know in a year the Vikings won’t be able to resign them and they can get out of there.

  43. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:47 am

    Here is one die hard Vikings fan who is not optimistic.

    What is Spielman now, 0 for 7 on QB transactions?
    _________

    To be fair, I don’t think you can blame Spielman for the freak accident that apparently ruined Teddy’s career and the out-of-nowhere knee issue Bradford had after the first game when he stayed healthy the whole year in 2016.

    You can blame Spielman for Ponder. That was a terrible pick. Spielman wasn’t involved in drafting T-Jack. He was there for Favre but that was more Chilly’s doing.

    He did sign Case Keenum last year and everybody seemed pretty happy with that.

  44. I get a kick out of people blaming the defense for losing in the playoffs and giving Keenum a pass. That Saints game would not have been close if Keenum hadn’t thrown up one of the worst interceptions I’ve ever seen one play after the Saints finally scored. That interception changed the whole momentum of the game. When you give Drew Brees that kind of gift, he’s going to beat you. In the Eagles game, everything was going fine until Keenum threw the pick six. How many teams do you know of that have lost a game after getting a pick six? It rarely happens. Keenum was hit while he threw it but it was an ill-advised pass anyway.

    The defense is in need of some upgrades but I hardly think that’s the number one problem on this team. People keep saying you need a great quarterback to win the Super Bowl. The Vikings may not have a great one but they went out and got the best one available. What’s everybody complaining about?

  45. BuckyBadger says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:50 am

    Nothing better then seeing a competitor overpay for an average player.
    _________

    That’s why I enjoyed the Jimmy Graham signing so much.

  46. ducks4remi says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    Some of their better defensive players were elated. They know in a year the Vikings won’t be able to resign them and they can get out of there.

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    Yeah and Rodgers is probably without his best WR in Nelson, who will Rodgers throw to besides Graham? Cobb proved last year he is not consistent at separating from defensive backs. You have no running game to speak of but yet you drink the Green Kool-Aid thinking just because number 12 is coming back you’re play-off bound. Packers fans have been so spoiled they have never experienced re-building, well eat up greenies welcome to rebuilding year!

  47. And PA is the most elated as he will be kissing Cousin’s butt like crazy, sucking up to him just so he can get him on his terrible radio show. If you ever want to hear a bad interview, just listen to one of PA’s! Your thoughts…..

  48. The Vikings loss vs the eagles was multi faceted. The shuffled Oline, Keenums inability to throw from the pocket or over 25 yards without floating. Shurmur’s foot out the door, Zim’s non adjustments. Rudolph on 1 ankle. Griffen 1 foot, Thielan’s back. Out coached out played out hustled. Beat down on all levels of the team.

  49. I have to laugh at all the ‘he hasn’t won anything’ yammering and won-lost record comparisons. There are eleven guys on offense and eleven on defense. The OCs are different, the play calling is different, the opponents are different.

    News Flash, fellas, this isn’t a head-to-head playoff round among golfers. It’s team football. You really think plopping Tom Brady into the dumpster fire in Cleveland will make them Super Bowl contenders? Or Aaron Rodgers to Buffalo? Dream on.

  50. In Teddy We Trusted says:

    March 14, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    The Vikings may not have a great one but they went out and got the best one available. What’s everybody complaining about?

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    The fact that they guaranteed $86M.

  51. flviking says:

    Multiple reams that we’re trying to get Cousins had players make public pleas. Von Miller from the Broncos, DJ and Fitzgerald from the Cardinals. You remember Fitz. But nyneal knows better then them. lol.

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    Look at the two teams you named. Neither one of them has a QB at all, so sure they’d want Cousins. It’s better to have an average QB than none at all.
    And thanks for the compliment, FL. Listening to the way many of these guys speak English, I think I am smarter than they are! LOL
    I can wait to see how it all shakes out. Cousins has no excuses now. He’s out of Washington (which is what he wanted) and he has a much better team around him. Let’s see if he can handle the pressure that is going to come with this signing. My bet is he won’t be able to.

  52. cabosan1978 says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:57 am
    This is not just to rip into Vikings but sincerely as a Packer fan, I was much more worried to face Case Keenum. The Packers were 0-2 (without Rodgers albeit) against Case and he seemed like he has a special knack to cut apart our average D. But the Pack has never had an issue against Kirk. The Pack is 2-0 vs Kirk and he never caused you, as a fan, to be really worried as Case did. So . . . welcome Kirk!

    ***

    The Packers were 0-2 against the vikings with Keenum as the QB and 2-0 -vs- the Redskins with Cousins as the QB.

    Its a team game. Keenum didn’t shut out GB in December 2017.

  53. chumpley says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:48 am
    It’s the beginning of the end of the Vikings brief run, unless Cousins tranforms himself into Aaron Rodgers. As an Eagles fan, I don’t see that happening.

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    This is hilarious. Last season every non-vikings fan stated ad nauseum that Keenum was a fluke and would regress to the mean. Now the Vikings signed a QB who has thrown 4K yards + 25 TDS in the last three seasons, and is going to be the responsible for the team decline?

  54. 38lightpole says:

    March 14, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    In Teddy We Trusted says:

    March 14, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    The Vikings may not have a great one but they went out and got the best one available. What’s everybody complaining about?

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    The fact that they guaranteed $86M

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    Sounds funny but 86 million is chump change compared to what the pack will have to pay out to Rodgers.

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