Playing indoors was a big factor for Kirk Cousins

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New Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins had 84 million reasons, and more, for choosing to continue his career in Minnesota. While the weather probably wasn’t one of them, avoiding the weather was.

Appearing on Friday’s PFT Live, Cousins was asked about the impact of playing in an enclosed stadium on his decision.

“That point that you’re making is one of the many on a long list of reasons why Minnesota made a lot of sense,” Cousins said. “I do think the statistics show that it’s favorable to play indoors consistently. I do see it as a competitive advantage not only as a quarterback throwing the football but when your defense is able to use that noise to their advantage and trap the sound and hopefully make it tough on an opposing offense. I do see a major home-field advantage at U.S. Bank Stadium. I think the stats show that. I look forward to being a part of that. One of the many positives of being a Viking.”

With the Lions in the NFC North, Cousins will have at least nine indoor games per year. Playing outdoors at FedEx Field for the first six years of his career (with half of them as the full-time starter), Cousins rarely played inside. Last year in New Orleans, he completed 68.8 percent of this throws, averaged 10.1 yards per attempt, threw three touchdown passes and no interceptions, and racked up a passer rating of 132.6 in a game against the Saints.

The Saints won the game. But winning and losing hinges on plenty of factors beyond quarterback play. Adding Cousins to a team that already has plenty of talent and that plays its home games indoors could be the thing that pushes the franchise back to the heights it enjoyed in the 1970s, with three Super Bowl appearances in four years.

And maybe this time at least one Super Bowl win.

80 responses to “Playing indoors was a big factor for Kirk Cousins

  1. On paper the Vikings have the most talented team in the NFC, and probably the NFL. In the last two years spent $109 million plus two high draft choices just on finding a QB.
    Anything less than a Super Bowl win will be and abject failure.

  2. in my humble opinion hes not that much better than keenum and keenum had a far better price tag..i feel as though they overpaid, I don’t see them winning it all w/ him and that’s the only way the deal makes sense is if they win it all.

  3. Kirk Cousins is the average type of qb who would need small advantages like this to help his cause. Indoor football will always be 2nd rate football. Its just boring.

  4. There are very few outliers; sports heroes have a mellifluous quality to their names. Kirk Cousins is in the Blake Bortles tier of “names likely to be immortalized”

  5. There’s only one game that really made me think Kirk was the guy for the Vikes and that was when he scored 30 against the Vikings D this year. The Vikings have been a team of conservative offense and were not built to come from behind. Kirk changes that and if the defense doesn’t show up for a game (i.e. NFCC game/Panthers/Steelers), there’s still a chance he can win us the game in a shootout. No disrespect as I love them both, but that’s something Teddy and Case can’t do. Adding the element of more accurate passing indoors with the home field advantage of the Vikes’ defense, I would imagine no one would like to play against the Vikings at US Bank Stadium this year.

    And yes, Philly fans, I know your stadium is outdoors. You beat us 38-7. You won the Super Bowl this year. etc., etc.

  6. Don’t fret Packers, Lions and Bears fans. “Winning” March and proclaiming another paper on title is what the purples do. They’ll be quiet by mid October. Life as normal. Ho hum.

  7. rogbg says:

    March 17, 2018 at 11:16 am

    Did he forget the part where he now has to play AT Green Bay and AT Chicago?

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    AT Green Bay – Is that the place where the Packers put up zero points against the Vikings defense last year?

  8. He should put up over 30 td’s and 5000 yards with this team. He put up damn good numbers on a far less talented Washington team.

  9. Best GM in sports? I guess you’re unaware of what happened when ‘the best gm in sports’ team faced off against the team that arguably has the best gm in the nfl’s team. Let me remind you…38-7. You guys aren’t even going to win your division so keep dreaming, Rodgers is back which means you’re back to 2nd place and a wild card weekend exit

  10. I would tell Minnesota fans to act like you have been there before, win a chamionship and show some class…but…well we all know the story.

  11. Kirk changes that and if the defense doesn’t show up for a game (i.e. NFCC game/Panthers/Steelers), there’s still a chance he can win us the game in a shootout.

    With all due respect this is the nonsense that got Cousins paid. This game wasn’t a shootout. The Vikings had an 18 point lead and Cousins, as he is known to do, racked up on garbage time stats. If not for a few bad turnovers by Keenum, the game would not have been that close.

    Vikings fans are going to learn the hard way that statistics lie. Cousins is the definition of an average qb.

  12. That Saints game, here’s the thing those stats don’t tell you. With a big lead, Cousin’s made bad decisions down the stretch leading to short drives and a tiring defense getting no rest.

    Now the defense fell to pieces at the end of the game, but they had played their role in setting up that lead. When they desperately needed Cousins to just run down the clock and sustain a few drives, he couldn’t do it.

    So, those indoor stats don’t tell the full picture. With a lead and a good performance behind him, he stopped playing well in crunch time.

    Maybe with new coaches and a big long term contract his confidence will pick up, but, so far, he’s always been vulnerable to sudden losses of form at crucial points in the game.

  13. Reading all the folks commenting on this and criticizing Cousins. He’s not a QB from down south or out west. You all do realize he played high school football in Holland, MI (cold, lake effect snow) and college ball at MSU, right? I live here in Lansing, MI and it is regularly cold during MSU’s football season.
    Yes, the Spartans play outdoors. Plus, Cousins was in Washington 5 years under some very adverse field conditions (worst field in NFL at FedEx stadium). He has always performed extremely well in the cold, in the rain and on the crappy field. Get educated on this before you start talking. If there is a Vikings game in adverse conditions, he will play just fine.

  14. I don’t doubt for a minute that Cousins is all about stats and comfort, rather than important wins and Championships.
    In that regard he couldn’t have picked a better landing spot than the Barneys.
    They excell in that vein.
    Just hope he doesn’t mind the stench of the dead bird carcasses he has to step over on his way to work.
    skoLOL!

  15. Cousins will be a valued added addition to the Vikings. His statements are correct. Keenum did one helluva job, that is a given. He throws to to the open man, while Cousins is a anticipation thrower(throwing to the route, based on scheme and reads), while as mobile as Keenum but not as elusive. This will lead to more YAC’s for a very good tandem in Thielan and Diggs. Maybe even Treadwill, since he doesn’t at this point show refined feet and hand techniques to create space from DBs but runs good routes. Expectations are for Coley to surpass him as the #3 option this year. Cousins is accurate in the intermediate and deep ball throws. The ball gets on the receiver quickly. Keenum ball has a lot of air under it and he doesn’t have a good deep ball, lacks elite NFL arm strength. Tell tale signs are that our WRs led the league in contested catches and several times big gains where PI’s while the WR was waiting for the ball having a couple of steps on DBs who ran up their backs.You will see more explosive plays from Cousins. How many times did we see receivers having 2-3 steps on the entire secondary and the ball was underthrown? Keenum should do OK in Denver with the thin air, Bradford also in Arizona and playing indoors and good weather conditons with his lower extremity issues. Teddy got the got the worst of itin NY, outdoors and mostly bad weather conditions on the road, which leads to bad field conditions with his knee issue. All in all, the Vikes did overpay for Cousins, but you have to strike while the coals are hot. They have enough talent in the room to be a formidable team that’s why they play the games and we watch as fans. Anticipation…. let the games BEGIN!!!!

  16. Did he forget the part where he now has to play AT Green Bay and AT Chicago
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    Agreed that is a negative having to play on those cow pastures especially if the games are in December when its frozen and after a season of wear and tear. Easily the most dangerous fields in the NFL at those times for player safety.

  17. The Vikings are going to regret not retaining Keenum.

    Having more cash flexibility to add pieces to an already stacked team seems more prudent than overpaying a QB that is only slighly better, at best.

  18. cheeseisfattening says:
    March 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    Did he forget the part where he now has to play AT Green Bay and AT Chicago
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    Agreed that is a negative having to play on those cow pastures especially if the games are in December when its frozen and after a season of wear and tear. Easily the most dangerous fields in the NFL at those times for player safety.
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    Says a fan who’s “franchise QB” had his knee ripped up during a non contact play while practicing at the Barneys substandard facility.
    Brilliant!

  19. eazeback says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:00 am
    in my humble opinion hes not that much better than keenum and keenum had a far better price tag..i feel as though they overpaid, I don’t see them winning it all w/ him
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    Aside from the fact that you’ve actually said nothing here, the Vikings had the cap room. And, you the only thing you actually said was that KC is better than Keenum. Zero reason given on why you think they can’t win it all with him.

  20. rogbg says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:16 am
    Did he forget the part where he now has to play AT Green Bay and AT Chicago

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    He was asked but could not give an answer, he was ROFL.

  21. The Vikings will regret the day that they let Case walk and signed a losing QB in Kirk “Choke” Cousins! The Vikings won’t come close to winning 13 games next season because they will have at least the 3rd hardest schedule with a QB that is 4-19 against teams with .500 or better winning percentage. This was a move that the Vikings didn’t need to make! Kirk Cousins has proven nothing in the NFL.

    Kirk Cousins would have choked and pissed away the Vikings chances to even have a chance to play the Eagles. You don’t blow up your QB room for one lost on the road to the eventual SB Champion. You don’t blow up your QB room for a QB in Kirk Cousins, who has won nothing as a starting QB in the NFL.

    A QB that pissed away a chance for a playoff win at home (2015), a QB who choked in the last game of the season at home with a chance to make the playoff (2016), and a QB who when the Redskins had a chance to have a respectable 8-8 season (2017) choked and pissed away the season to 2-13 Giants football team that had no WRs and missing 3 of their best players on defense. Kirk threw 3 INTs! You want to blow up your team for a loser that has record 26-30-1, and over the last two seasons has a record of 15-16-1, and against teams with a winning record 1-19, this is what you want to blow up your QB room for in Kirk Cousins, it makes no sense.

    The Vikings should have taken a page from Jacksonville and resign the starting QB that got them one step from going to the SB, if the Vikings had won home-field advantage they may have very well beaten the Eagles in Minn.

  22. cheeseisfattening says:
    March 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    Agreed that is a negative having to play on those cow pastures especially if the games are in December when its frozen and after a season of wear and tear. Easily the most dangerous fields in the NFL at those times for player safety.
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    When the truth is so easily attainable, your continuum of FAKE NEWS is not only predictable and expected, it’s boring.

    Lambeau Field is ranked #7 in the league, BEFORE the recent off-season upgraded replacement and new hearing system and augmented support system. It’s a hybrid of natural turf woven with artificial turf. The only surface like it in the NFL. The surfaces ranked above it are all natural warm climates surfaces.

    Giants, Jets, Bengals, and Saints play on the same stuff as US Bank. They are ranked #14, #21, and #22.

  23. dizzybruhbruh33 says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:18 am
    There’s only one game that really made me think Kirk was the guy for the Vikes and that was when he scored 30 against the Vikings D this year.
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    LOL, maybe MN should have swung a trade for Nick Foles. He destroyed in the biggest game of the year.

  24. Kirk is an extremely bright guy. He waited until the management stopped forcing their team to play inside a hot air balloon (for 30 years). You’d think they’d have outplayed their opponents while high on helium, but they seldom did. Maybe he’s the one who snuck in and stuck a pin in the roof.

  25. You Viking fans are pretty funny, already talking smack, news flash your team is not as good as your classless fans think they are. You guys talked so much smack before the 38-7 beat down last year that I lost all respect for your fan base. Stay classy and act like you have been there before. Your D was exposed as frauds in Philly and Cousins is not that good, enjoy talking smack as that’s is all you have.

  26. he’s a punk, and won’t be much different than Keenum After all, the Vikings won 13 with Keenum; they can only hope to get there with a QB who’s never won more than 9.

  27. I dont know stellar, it’ll be interesting if you guys get a bunch of knee injuries the first early part of the season with the new field. It happens to a lot of nfl teams, indoor or outdoors the season of a turf change in the offseason.

  28. Frazier28/7 says:
    March 17, 2018 at 3:20 pm
    I dont know stellar, it’ll be interesting if you guys get a bunch of knee injuries the first early part of the season with the new field. It happens to a lot of nfl teams, indoor or outdoors the season of a turf change in the offseason.
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    I can’t dispute that. Anything is possible, I guess.

  29. There are QB’s that can throw but can’t win, and then there are QB’s who can throw and win. He hasn’t shown he can win yet. And that’s not an opinion, that’s supported by fact. He has a losing record as a starter and he was 3-18 (or something like that) against teams with winning records. Alex Smith has shown he can throw – he had the highest QB rating in the NFL last year. He’s even shown he can win, 50-27 during the regular season with KC. But he wasn’t going to win you a close game in the 4th quarter. Kirk has all the pieces around him. Now it’s time for him to show that he can be a 4th-quarter/playoff QB that can win.

  30. To everyone who says that Cousins isn’t much better than Keenum… Bradford and Keenum both had career best years playing on this team. Both got themselves big paydays for their performance on this team. Who’s to say Cousins won’t be one of the best QBs in the NFL playing in this scheme? Who woulda thought Keenum would have the #1 QBR in the NFL last year?

  31. It’s always a challenge to figure out where a stadium is when they refer to it by it’s legally paid-for name.

  32. PrincePaul says:
    March 17, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    There are QB’s that can throw but can’t win, and then there are QB’s who can throw and win. He hasn’t shown he can win yet. And that’s not an opinion, that’s supported by fact. He has a losing record as a starter and he was 3-18 (or something like that) against teams with winning records. Alex Smith has shown he can throw – he had the highest QB rating in the NFL last year. He’s even shown he can win, 50-27 during the regular season with KC. But he wasn’t going to win you a close game in the 4th quarter. Kirk has all the pieces around him. Now it’s time for him to show that he can be a 4th-quarter/playoff QB that can win.

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    You guys just are not that bright. You understand that the Redskins are 26-30-1 with Cousins. The Redskins. It’s a team 53 players plus coaches. Let’s see how Cousins does on a good team. My guess is that he will be a winner.

  33. flviking says:
    March 17, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    You guys just are not that bright. You understand that the Redskins are 26-30-1 with Cousins. The Redskins. It’s a team 53 players plus coaches. Let’s see how Cousins does on a good team. My guess is that he will be a winner.

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    Odd, the Barney fans always claim that Green Bay’s success is only due to the QB and that the rest of the team and coaching is inconsequential.
    Your reasoning sounds a tad bit scattershot.

  34. wafflestomp says:
    March 17, 2018 at 5:20 pm
    flviking says:
    March 17, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    You guys just are not that bright. You understand that the Redskins are 26-30-1 with Cousins. The Redskins. It’s a team 53 players plus coaches. Let’s see how Cousins does on a good team. My guess is that he will be a winner.

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    Odd, the Barney fans always claim that Green Bay’s success is only due to the QB and that the rest of the team and coaching is inconsequential.
    Your reasoning sounds a tad bit scattershot

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    You are definitely in the group of guys that are not very bright

  35. milkcan44 says:
    March 17, 2018 at 10:57 am

    On paper the Vikings have the most talented team in the NFC, and probably the NFL. In the last two years spent $109 million plus two high draft choices just on finding a QB.
    Anything less than a Super Bowl win will be and abject failure.

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    While I agree it would be a failure for the Vikings to not win a Superbowl after finally landing their franchise quarterback. A bigger failure is having hall of fame quarterbacks for the last 20+ years and only two Superbowls. *cough*Packers*cough*

  36. So much smack talk from Packers fans here, you scared? I think you are because I think Cousins can thrive in this offense with our play makers and more importantly our defense. A LOT of tape was watched before making this signing of Capt. Kirk, by the people who matter….GMs, coaches and owners. Yes anything but a Super Bowl will be a failure because unlike Packers management Vikings management have decided to take the risk and go all in, I don’t see what is so wrong with that. If it works it works, if it doesn’t oh well. At least they are trying to put the Vikings players in a good position to win, not liek Green Bay who thinks ths Green Jesus its gonna throw Hail Marys every weekend and get free play by double counting. Clue for ya Cheeseheads, Vikings defense is well disciplined, they are a Zimmer coached team.

    Cousins is going to be just fine, he has a running game, solid receivers and something Green Bay hasn’t had in years, a number one defense. I’ve watched for years and years Cheeseheads, the most uneducated fans base in the history of football strut around like the are some kind of football royalty. I don’t care about the past, I care about the future!

    Right now Cousins is definitely competition for number 12 in Green Bay! Cousins has missed ZERO games in four years, has a career passer rating of 65.5% completion percentage only behind Brees and Bradford, he is tied with Kurt Warner. Was number 1 last year in Game winning drives, 12 for his career only 5 behind Rodgers (2005-2017) who has played longer Cousins (2012-2017). Only trials Rodgers by 3 in 4th quarter comebacks Cousins 8, Rodgers 11. So Cousins has played half of a career and has better numbers than Rodgers.

    AND yes two HOFers in 20 some years and only two rings? When the 9ers transitioned from Montana to Young for a total of 5, yes 5 Super Bowl wins. You wanna call Rodgers a GOAT?

    Your management has let Micah Hyde go, Sam Sheilds and maybe Morgan Burnett. Jody gone. No running game no moves on free agents, well a washed up TE. I cannot wait til Cousins carves up the Packer secondary this year, and 33 drops a buck 50 on that pathetic defensive line.

    Its all cute, your lil stadium and the benches,small town vibe, but the NFL has moved on to bigger and better things. The game has progressed and a 1990s way of doing things does not work in today’s NFL, you have to be aggressive at all costs. Cousins may flop but ya know what? I’m glad my team went all in to try and bring home a winner and not be passive aggressive and under control of a Diva who WILL be playing somewhere else come 2020! Trust me they will kick 12 to the curb just like they did Favre.

    SKOL Bruthas!

  37. mathias122413 says:
    March 17, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    While I agree it would be a failure for the Vikings to not win a Superbowl after finally landing their franchise quarterback. A bigger failure is having hall of fame quarterbacks for the last 20+ years and only two Superbowls. *cough*Packers*cough*
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    Since 1961 (the Dawn of Man, according to Viking fans,) the Vikings have had two quarterbacks enshrined in the NFL, same as the Packers. Additionally, the Vikings have had their starting QB selected to the annual Pro-Bowl seventeen times, the Packers eighteen times. It’s a team sport. Holding a quarterback solely responsible for the success of a team is narrow-minded and self-serving.

    The biggest team-sport failure in the NFL has to be the all-time NFL record for postseason losses (Vikings,) made worse by the all-time NFL record for one-and-done postseason appearances (Vikings.)

  38. stellarperformance says:
    March 17, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    It’s a team sport. Holding a quarterback solely responsible for the success of a team is narrow-minded and self-serving.
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    What the heck are you talking about?! You are still a Packer fan right? Carl probably just had a stroke after seeing that.

  39. mrdarkness13 says:
    March 17, 2018 at 6:59 pm
    ………. the most uneducated fans base in the history of football strut around like………….
    ………..1990s way of doing things does not work in today’s NFL, you have to be aggressive at all costs…….
    …………Cousins may flop but ya know what? I’m glad my team went all in to try and bring home a winner……………….
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    Three things. That’s it. I’d respond to the rest of your post, but I only have time to read your post or War and Peace, so I chose War and Peace.

    1) In a poll of Active NFL Players several year ago, Packer fans were determined to be the most knowledgeable. Your opinion is just an opinion. Sorry.
    2) You’re describing the MO of Snyder and the Redskins. Good luck with that.
    3) Let’s see if you feel the same way at this time next year. I’m not saying it won’t happen, because it could. But you want it this year. All-in. Now. That could hurt.

  40. People seem to think a quarterback’s won-loss record is the only way to evaluate him. Well, the Redskins were 4-12 the year before Cousins became the regular starter and the next year they were 9-7. Seems to me that taking a 4-win team to 9 wins is pretty good.

    I also noticed that Cousins is one of the league leaders in come from behind victories and game-winning drives. Isn’t that also all about winning?

    The fact is that Aaron Rodgers is the only quarterback in the league that is pretty much solely responsible for winning games. The Patriots win when Brady is out. Brees was 7-9 three straight seasons until they got more talent. We’ve seen that the Packers are terrible without Rodgers and good with him. Cousins can’t make a bad team a winner, but he might be able to make a good team a champion.

  41. pkrlvr says:
    March 17, 2018 at 12:52 pm
    It will be fun watching this Minnesota Defense absolutely decimate Erin though. Watching him laying on the ground withering in pain last year was a thing of beauty, and looking forward to seeing it again this year.
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    Reveling in another team’s (and another human’s) injury is just pathetic. Really sad to see anyone say something like this.
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    I was thinking the same thing myself and was almost going to comment, until I’m reminded of the fact that there’s just no getting through to these inbred troglodytes.
    You’re talking about a fan base that knowingly sold out their integrity and morals to cheer for a child abuser. Pathetic.
    They are soulless creatures.

  42. Arguing with Packers fan like arguing with an ex-wife, even when they lose they still think they win.
    /////// In a poll of Active NFL Players several year ago, Packer fans were determined to be the most knowledgeable. Your opinion is just an opinion. Sorry.
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    Source? Hyperlink?

    The rest of your response does not have validity. Read the novel War and Peace…….lol.Whatever dude!

  43. Posted by Tom Fanning on December 23, 2010 – 11:35 am
    This week’s issue of Sports Illustrated includes a poll of players around the league that asked which city they thought had the most knowledgeable fans in the NFL, and Green Bay checked in at No. 1 with 26 percent of the vote.

    The results were based on the 277 players who responded to the magazine’s survey, and Green Bay finished well ahead of No. 2 Pittsburgh (14 percent). Rounding out the top five were New York (9 percent), Philadelphia (8 percent) and Dallas (7 percent).
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    Are some people still without internet? This article took me one try and thirteen seconds to find. Maybe your mom can help you.

  44. Love how people come out of the woodwork to bash Cousins and the Vikings, for what ? Couins was the #1 free agent available. Every team that needed a QB wanted him…. not Keenum… and it wasn’t even close. So the Vikings finally step up and sign the big fish. Get over it. Cousins is an upgrade over Keenum who was a middling back up QB before he came to a good team. He was awful outdoors and anytime the Vikings fell behind. QB’s are as good as their surrounding cast and the Vikings have a really good surrounding cast. Keenum is a great guy and good leader but he was very limited.

  45. Seen it or something like it, that article is 7 years and 3 months old, typical Packer fan living in the past. Doesn’t take a genius to use Google and bookmark the website amongst all your porn.

  46. Liberalsruineverything says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Nailing the biggest need and the second biggest need is what Spielman does. Best GM in sports.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    The best GM in all of SPORTS has just one playoff victory to his credit? And it took a miracle, to boot. Something seems off…..

  47. packertruth says:
    March 18, 2018 at 1:04 am
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Nailing the biggest need and the second biggest need is what Spielman does. Best GM in sports.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    The best GM in all of SPORTS has just one playoff victory to his credit? And it took a miracle, to boot. Something seems off…..
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    I know it’s hard to understand for a fan of a team who thinks signing a washed up tight end year after year will fix their defense somehow.

  48. mrdarkness13 says:
    March 18, 2018 at 1:03 am
    Seen it or something like it, that article is 7 years and 3 months old, typical Packer fan living in the past. Doesn’t take a genius to use Google and bookmark the website amongst all your porn.
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    Could you please provide the source for or a hyperlink to the “rule book” for whatever Vikings fans deem to be appropriate on any one given day? Viking fans have “rules” for everything they don’t agree with. It changes everyday. I can’t keep up.

    Thanks for your help!

  49. stellarperformance says:
    March 17, 2018 at 9:29 pm
    Posted by Tom Fanning on December 23, 2010 – 11:35 am
    This week’s issue of Sports Illustrated includes a poll of players around the league that asked which city they thought had the most knowledgeable fans in the NFL, and Green Bay checked in at No. 1 with 26 percent of the vote.

    The results were based on the 277 players who responded to the magazine’s survey, and Green Bay finished well ahead of No. 2 Pittsburgh (14 percent). Rounding out the top five were New York (9 percent), Philadelphia (8 percent) and Dallas (7 percent).
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    Are some people still without internet? This article took me one try and thirteen seconds to find. Maybe your mom can help you

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    Still trying to start fights are we?
    Question? And I’m sure you’ll call me a fool for asking but this article states:
    This week’s issue of Sports Illustrated includes a poll of players around the league that asked which city they thought had the most knowledgeable fans in the NFL.

    “Which city they thought”
    They thought? Pretty in-depth, scientific survey.

  50. flviking says:
    March 18, 2018 at 11:46 am
    Still trying to start fights are we?
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    I don’t know. Are you?

  51. stellarperformance says:
    March 18, 2018 at 12:43 pm
    flviking says:
    March 18, 2018 at 11:46 am
    Still trying to start fights are we?
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    I don’t know. Are you?

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    You call out someone to have their mom help them. I asked a question, very nicely, by the way that you did not answer. I think you being over here on a Viking story stirring the pot, the answer is you are starting the fights.

  52. flviking says:
    March 18, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    You call out someone to have their mom help them. I asked a question, very nicely, by the way that you did not answer. I think you being over here on a Viking story stirring the pot, the answer is you are starting the fights.
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    I guess we shouldn’t expect to see you on Packer stories anymore?

    You can’t show up at the twelfth hour and and annoint yourself the voice of reason. Read the thread from the beginning. You’ll see where I was coming from……reactively, not proactively.

  53. stellarperformance says:
    March 17, 2018 at 9:29 pm
    Posted by Tom Fanning on December 23, 2010 – 11:35 am
    This week’s issue of Sports Illustrated includes a poll of players around the league that asked which city they thought had the most knowledgeable fans in the NFL, and Green Bay checked in at No. 1 with 26 percent of the vote.

    The results were based on the 277 players who responded to the magazine’s survey, and Green Bay finished well ahead of No. 2 Pittsburgh (14 percent). Rounding out the top five were New York (9 percent), Philadelphia (8 percent) and Dallas (7 percent).
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    Are some people still without internet? This article took me one try and thirteen seconds to find. Maybe your mom can help you.

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    You need a better PC bro, if it takes 13 seconds to return results on Google, you need to kick your tower to make the hamster run faster. Mine returns 28 millions results in 0.39 seconds. I’m an IT guy I don’t need my mom to help me with tasks I do everyday, of course I wouldn’t expect a good rebuttal to the facts I stated from a dude who still lives in his parents basement.

    The Packers are in deep trouble and you know it, thats why you choose the insults.

  54. 1) In a poll of Active NFL Players several year ago, Packer fans were determined to be the most knowledgeable. Your opinion is just an opinion. Sorry.
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    A Packer fan patting himself on the back. Is anyone surprised? The real funny part is the guy that posted it referred to Davonte Adams as “fast” in a post yesterday. 😀

  55. Are some people still without internet? This article took me one try and thirteen seconds to find. Maybe your mom can help you.
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    This from a guy who thinks I save his postings and fails to understand how to use search to look up people’s past postings. Amazing that OftenWrongCabbage was able to finally figure this out but Stella is still behind. #limited.

  56. mrdarkness13 says:
    March 18, 2018 at 3:52 pm
    The Packers are in deep trouble and you know it, thats why you choose the insults.
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    The insults started with you, Einstein. That’s why I’m here.

  57. Most of the guys better than Kirk will be retired by the end of this three year deal – maybe all if Erin’s shoulder shatters again.

  58. What? Now we cannot insult the Packers on a Vikings thread? That’s what I mean by your fan base being entitled and thinking your team is football royalty. My insults have validity

    Yes most uneducated fan base – most fans think number 12 is the only guy on the team, you laugh at the Cousins deal – Look up John Hadel

    1990s way of doing things does not work in today’s NFL, you have to be aggressive at all costs – Look how many free agents ended up in different places this week if you’re not winning you are not going to attract good talent either in the draft OR FA which the Packers have done woeful so far. How about making a play for Sammy Watkins?

    And as far as looking stuff up myself. When debating topics any topic, its proper,its a nice gesture to provide the link out of courtesy. Not doing so makes you look lazy, just wanting to pick fights or just making stuff up to win an argument. If you are trying to be funny or be a comedian better not quit your day job.

  59. mrdarkness13 says:
    March 18, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    What? Now we cannot insult the Packers on a Vikings thread?
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    What? Now I can’t react to a Packer insult on a Viking thread?

    It’s good to know we won’t see you on the Packer threads.

    Thanks!

  60. Like I’ve always said about Packers fan best rationalizing fan base ever. Even when you lose, you still think you win.

  61. mrdarkness13 says:
    March 18, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    Like I’ve always said about Packers fan best rationalizing fan base ever. Even when you lose, you still think you win.
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    Brainwashed to win is always better than embracing the suck. But you go ahead and keep doing what you’re doing.

  62. stellarperformance says:
    March 18, 2018 at 8:05 pm
    mrdarkness13 says:
    March 18, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    Like I’ve always said about Packers fan best rationalizing fan base ever. Even when you lose, you still think you win.
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    Brainwashed to win is always better than embracing the suck. But you go ahead and keep doing what you’re doing
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    Embracing the suck. Words the cheesers should wrap their arms around in the coming decade.

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