Jets gave up far more than the last team to move up to No. 3

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The Jets paid a huge quarterback premium to move up to the third overall pick in the draft.

To get pick No. 3, the Jets gave up pick No. 6, pick No. 37, pick No. 49 and a second-round pick next year.

The last time a team moved up to the third overall pick was in the 2013 NFL draft, and that team gave up a whole lot less. That year, the Dolphins got pick No. 3 from the Raiders, giving up only pick No. 12 and pick No. 42. Miami drafted defensive end Dion Jordan, who managed a grand total of three sacks as a Dolphin, which shows the danger of trading up in the draft: You don’t actually know if the guy you’re trading up for is going to be any good.

The reason the Jets gave up so much more than the Dolphins is that this year there will be a highly regarded quarterback available with the third pick in the draft, and that year there was not. Teams will pay a huge premium for a passer. The Colts were lucky that was the case.

56 responses to “Jets gave up far more than the last team to move up to No. 3

  1. Every year the experts overrate the QB’s in a draft class and this year is no exception. This move just cements their reputation as one of the worst run organizations in football.

  2. For the legit right QB who can really be a franchise guy, their C Wentz, J Goff, R Wilson, etc, it wasn’t too high a price to pay. How much longer can we hear the; No great QB since Namath stuff? The Jets are desperate. GM Mike M and Todd B’s jobs are on the line this year & they want to keep those jobs I imagine. You do what ya gotta do.

  3. The reason the Dolphins gave up so little is because THE 2013 DRAFT WAS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL, especially in the first round. Everyone knew that the “elite” talent at the top wasn’t elite, the “true first round” level players weren’t deep, and that things dropped off fast. 3 total Pro Bowls in the first 17 picks with numerous busts. If you remember, MANY teams tried to trade down that year, and the trade-down demand was very weak. Remember, CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.

  4. They may have moved up three spots, but they actually only moved up one because the only team they leap-frogged were the Broncos. The Browns likely have their QB at 1, the Colts don’t need one, so this trade was about one spot. And who even knows the Broncos were picking one at 5. They could have kept their haul and got their guy anyway.

  5. .
    The 2013 draft was one of the worst in NFL history. It didn’t matter where you picked. There was a lack of quality talent from top to bottom.

    The Jets paid a fairly high price but now have a guarantee of getting one of the top three QBs regardless of what any other team does. However they shouldn’t be celebrating just yet. It would be very easy for pick rich Buffalo to trade with Cleveland for #4 and then parlay that pick into a trade with the Giants at #2. This scenario works only if the Giants would be content with Barkley at #4 and the additional picks acquired.
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  6. Very confusing move being that they just signed Bridgewater… not much of a vote of confidence in him. What a train wreck of an NFL organization!

  7. One HUGE reason the 2018 New York Jets gave up more…

    … the top of the 2013 NFL Draft was garbage.

  8. Who cares? They moved up to draft a QB and they didn’t give up a future first, personally I think this is a good deal for the Jets. The 2013 draft had no top end QB talent, which is why Miami was able to move up for so cheap. You need a franchise QB in this league to build around, and I will NEVER knock a team for moving up and taking a QB that they can build around. Worst happens you are here 2-3 years from now trying again. I think Jets made the right decision for the franchise and I hope they find their QB.

  9. What is bizarre is that they are considering trying to move up even further!

    Giving up the #6 pick and 3 #2’s to move up 3 spots was huge. I’m not sure, but Cleveland might have given them the #1 pick for that bounty. After giving up that much to move to #3, Cleveland isn’t going to let them move up to #1 on the cheap.

  10. You don’t stay that bad for that long by accident. In fact, the way the NFL is structured with a salary cap and draft it is almost impossible for such to be by chance.

  11. officialgame says:
    March 19, 2018 at 6:34 am
    Every year the experts overrate the QB’s in a draft class and this year is no exception. This move just cements their reputation as one of the worst run organizations in football.

    And in Free Agency. Minnesota overpaid for Cousins as well. I will wonder over the next 2 years which was worse.

  12. Something is worth what someone will give you for it.
    Maybe the Colts had other offers from say the Bills And Denver.

  13. In 2013, no QB was taken until the 16th pick (EJ Manuel), and the next QB taken was Geno Smith in the 2nd round. That affected the value of the traded picks. As many as 5 QB’s could go in the top 5-10 picks this year. So really this is a non-story.

  14. Nobody will think the Jets overpaid if they get a good QB. The eagles gave up two 1s and three 2s to go from #8 to #2 to draft Wentz.

    The only regrets on that deal are with the Browns who have as many regular season wins as the Eagles have superbowls since the trade happened.

  15. Only time will tell if it was the right move. I love how these moves are either criticized or praised before they have a chance to play out. They conveniently offer up the Dion Jordan example because it failed, but they failed to mention the successful trade-ups.
    I’m pretty sure that nobody in Philadelphia is complaining about what the Eagles gave up to move up to #2 for Carson Wentz, which is actually more comparable because we’re talking about arguably the most important position in professional sports. If the Jets believe the future of their franchise is going to be available at #3, then I applaud them for taking the chance. No risk no reward.

  16. If the Jets get a Wentz type QB, then this is a good trade. If he is more like Bortles then who knows. BTW the big 3 QB’s this year are rated higher prospects than were Wentz, Goff and Bortles when they were coming out. But with QB’s you never know.

  17. About par for the course. Moving from 6 to 3 seems like it was maybe just a little too high. Maybe a 3rd instead of one of those seconds.

    To get to 2, the Eagles gave up #8 overall pick, a third- and fourth-round selection in that draft, the next year’s first-round pick and a second-round pick in 2018.

    I don’t really think the draft value charts apply anymore, but to move 3 spots, they did give up a lot of value, according to it, in early second rounders.

  18. I think the Jets knew they were also setting precedent, and making sure that if anybody was going to trade up to get ahead of them, they would have to give up even more.

  19. OR it’s a bluff, and the Jets DON’T want a QB at 3, but instead a player that won’t be there at 6.

    Browns must now pick their QB at #1 or risk him being gone at #4
    Bills must overpay to get the #2 pick

    Jets pick up Barkley at #3

  20. The Jets got ripped off but heres the thing – had they not made that trade they would have missed out on a good QB prospect.

    Better to overpay for a good meal than to eat road kill.

  21. gtodriver says:
    March 19, 2018 at 7:04 am

    What is bizarre is that they are considering trying to move up even further!

    Giving up the #6 pick and 3 #2’s to move up 3 spots was huge. I’m not sure, but Cleveland might have given them the #1 pick for that bounty. After giving up that much to move to #3, Cleveland isn’t going to let them move up to #1 on the cheap.

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    You actually think they did this trade without trying to talk to Browns or Giants first? Come on man use your head. If Browns would have done that deal for no 1 they would have done it. Teams talk to all teams not just one.

  22. reddzen says:

    And in Free Agency. Minnesota overpaid for Cousins as well. I will wonder over the next 2 years which was worse.
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    The Vikings offer was less than what the Jets offered. So did the Vikings overpay? If they did, they got by for less than what the Jets would have paid if Cousins had taken the Jets offer.

  23. And if the Jets get.a pro bowl hall of fame out of the deal, they’ll be seen as geniuses.

    Too early to judge this trade, everyone. Every team rolls the dice at some point.

  24. The best quarterback in the draft will end up being some guy in round 2,3,4 that nobody is talking about.

  25. I’m a Bills fan and I applaud the Jets…those 3 2nds will mean nothing if they hit it right with their choice of QB’s…it’s a gamble but how much farther down can they go. If this was the Pat’s making this move it would be brilliant. Yeah, they could have stayed at 6 and got one of the top 5 but why not go for it and get at least one of the top 2 or 3 and also stick it to a division rival as the Bills will either have to overpay to go to 2 or 4.

  26. These QBs don’t really impress me. Build your offensive line – there’s always good one available.

    Cleveland should trade down – there’s always suckers available – and stock the O-line, and through that you will attract quality free agent QBs and there’s always plenty of them. They’ll never know how good Kizer could have been because he spent his rookie year running for his life because his line couldn’t protect him. Green Bay can let him watch Mr. Rogers for a while and let him know that he’s got a good line protecting him and let him get his confidence back after 3 or 4 years at the mercy of Brian Kelly and then – who knows?

  27. This comment is for the Jets fans who are hearing all the criticism for their team trading up… Go back and read the profootball talk article announcing the Eagles trade with the Browns. All you will see is people blasting Philadelphia for trading up claiming Wentz will be a bust, they overpaid, stupid franchise, every team in the NFC East is celebrating ect… You name it, they said it. Truth is your team moved up for cheap IMO and you have a chance to get your guy. Be excited and enjoy the ride and tune out these idiot nay sayers who just are looking for something to troll about.

  28. Not a Jets fan – but it was a good move for them.

    1. By potentially overpaying now – they have the pick 6 weeks before the draft.
    2. Now they have also set the bar (high) for people who may want to trade to get in front of them.
    3. You need to have a good QB in this league. Where i have questions about all of them – you need to be gutsy sometimes. If the Jets feel that one of these QBs is a franchise one for them – no one will criticize them for what they gave up.
    4. Giants made a move when they got Eli. They ended up trading Philip Rivers, (the pick used for) Shawn Merriman, (the pick that was used for) Nate Kaeding and another pick the Chargers used to trade for Roman Oben. That was a lot to give up – but the Giants won 2 SBs with Eli. Had Eli been a bust – people would have buried the Giants. You need to take a chance sometimes.
    5. Jets were never going to get a trade done with the Giants. Browns are now forced to take a QB at 1. That means at worst, the Jets will take the 2nd QB in the draft (possibly their top rated one) or if the Giants take a QB or trade it to someone who wants one – the 3rd QB. If they stayed at 6, all the top QBs may have been gone.

    Cant bury them today for this trade. Over time, if they choose the wrong one – maybe. But we could be complimenting them if it works out for them

  29. titimium says:
    March 19, 2018 at 6:41 am
    For the legit right QB who can really be a franchise guy, their C Wentz, J Goff, R Wilson..
    +++++++++++++++++++
    Wilson lol..he’s at least got something in common with Brady. They’ve both choked away superbowls on the last chance

  30. Taking a QB at No.1 is usually burdensome, even when that quarterback is a Heisman Trophy winner, e.g., Eric Crouch, Matt Leinart, Jason White (not even drafted?), Tim(my) Tebow, Johnny Manziel et al. — none of these QBs were actually selected at No.1, but were Heisman winners.

    For the QBs who were Heisman winners selected at No.1 in the NFL Draft, e.g., Cam(eron) Newton, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Sam Bradford, Jameis Winston, the road has been shaky, with lil’ bro Manning having done the most damage by besting Tom Brady twice for a 2-time SB/MVP win, followed by Cam(eron) Newton a/k/a “AceBoogie” a/k/a Superman with the Cam-rolina Panthers floundering their Super Bowl berth/opportunity to clinch The Lombardi Trophy versus the big ‘bro Manning (Peyton)-led Broncos, due to a tired Cam-rolina defense — ya gotta play the full 60 minutes, peeps! — this applies to you, too, Hotlanta Falcons (rolling eyes).

    “Big Arm,” height, yada-yada-yada is all irrelevant — sorry, but no offense Josh Allen, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold. “Go to the videotape!” is what really matters; hence, the “Best Available” quarterback for the 2018 Draft is Baker Mayfield and Cleveland would be remiss not to draft Mayfield at No.1, since it is a certainty that Big Blue is going to trade down, probably to Buffalo, since they already have 2-time Super Bowl/MVP lil’ bro Manning in their thoroughbred stable, and the Bills acquiring of AJ McCarron is truly a downgrade from T-Rod (Tyrod Taylor) who is a solid starter now, having earned his stripes/paid his dues backing up Joe Flacco in B’more for several years, prior to arriving in snowy Buffalo.

    If Cleveland passes on Mayfield, then “Gangrene” would be prime to get Mayfield, turning their gangrenous infection at QB over the past several years into something golden.

  31. they could have sat still and waited for someone to leap them or they could move up themselves and be proactive. they made the right decision to move up, whether they’ll draft the right guy is another question.

  32. Every bold move in the NFl is labeled as a dumb move by other fan bases and trolls. The Kirk Cousin’s deal is labeled as dumb right now…if he plays well and MN is a good team for the next three years….people will eat Crow.

    Same with Jets going up and getting their guy. The Eagles traded up and got Wentz. Deemed a dumb movie at the time, but now the Eagles are a powerhouse. Nobody knows how anything plays out. Lets stop acting like we know.

  33. Colts have set themselves up well for the future, with the 2 2nd rounders this year and one next year. They are definitely devoid of talent at a lot of spots. They should be able to get starters on D, or fix their o line.

  34. It also makes the price Chicago paid last year to move from 3 to 2, a lot more palatable to Bears fans such as myself.

  35. It seems to me the Jets organization is just programmed to make bad decisions when it comes to the QB position. They do okay at the other positions.

  36. Just don’t draft the QB from USC . Their hasn’t been a good QB come out of there since Carson Palmer.

  37. 1historian says: March 19, 2018 at 8:29 am
    These QBs don’t really impress me. Build your offensive line – there’s always good one available.
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    No there isn’t. Finding a franchise QB is tough. That’s why half the teams in the league are languishing where they are year in and year out because they can’t find a QB whether it’s in the 1st or later rounds. If they knew a “lower rated” QB was going to be a star, they’d draft him earlier to make sure they got him. Given the obsession with numbers and projections, the draft “experts” and fans would absolute annihilate any team who drafted Tom Brady first overall today.

  38. If that deal was offered to Cleveland and they turned it down they would be foolish. Cleveland would have had two first round picks and six second round picks.

  39. The biggest reason why the cost to move up to the top of the draft has increased is because there is a rookie wage scale. In addition to draft compensation signing bonuses were prohibitive and high picks weren’t as valuable.

  40. dolphins4 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Just don’t draft the QB from USC . Their hasn’t been a good QB come out of there since Carson Palmer.

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    How many postseason wins does Carson Palmer have?

    1 win and 3 losses with 5 TDs and 7 Ints.

    Yeah….he is great.

  41. As an Eagles fan, I still thank Miami for moving up in front of us to take Dion Jordan because Chip Kelly was waiting at 4 to take him. Instead, we had to ‘settle’ for Lane Johnson

  42. dolphins4 says: March 19, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Just don’t draft the QB from USC . Their hasn’t been a good QB come out of there since Carson Palmer.
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    You think USC is bad? Look at all the QBs coming from the entire state of Florida since 1990, especially the Heisman winners. Name the last above average QB in the NFL who from Florida, FSU, Miami, Central Florida, etc.

  43. The browns are taking Barkley at 1, which guarantees them a QB at 4. If the Jets traded for this pick to get Barkley, it would be a very JETS move… I’ll considered and wasteful. No other move makes sense for the Browns besides trading 4.

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