Eric Reid could have a viable collusion case, too

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Colin Kaepernick‘s collusion case against the NFL could have one very significant collateral impact on the NFL. The evidence Kaepernick generates in his effort to prove a concerted effort to keep him out of football could be used by other players also deemed to be undesirable due to pregame political activities.

Kaepernick’s former San Francisco teammate, safety Eric Reid, who initially provided support to Kaepernick during his anthem protests and who more recently criticized the deal struck between the league and some of the protesting players to end the anthem demonstrations, could be the first one to piggyback on the work product of Kaepernick’s collusion case.

Even if Reid was never mentioned by name in any of the text messages or email exchanges that may prove a league-office-led campaign to keep Kaepernick out of the NFL, the basis for the shunning of Kaepernick applies with nearly equal force to Reid. Yes, multiple other players who protested remain gainfully employed. But Reid, like Kaepernick, had a higher level of visibility and Reid, via his vocal objection to the deal struck between the league and other protesting players (and his comments regarding the sources of the money devoted to social justice programs), surely created a greater degree of frustration for the NFL than other protesting players.

The fact that Reid now says he doesn’t plan to protest doesn’t matter; the damage already has been done. Moreover, teams may fear that, once he has another NFL job, Reid may change his mind. Also, the fact that he was so intimately involved in past protests (and the fact that his activities are deemed to be a factor in his search for work) could put him into the dreaded “distraction” category, where on-field ability takes a backseat to off-field propensity to create unwanted lines of questioning for other players and coaches.

58 responses to “Eric Reid could have a viable collusion case, too

  1. Yeah, right….
    5 years, 5 million dollars later in lawyer fees… against billionaire’s … shoulda just played football…

  2. He wasn’t starting on SF and has a history of concussions.
    Plus there are a lot of players that demonstrated and are still employed, some at a higher salary.
    It’s not always other people’s fault if you can’t get/keep a high paying job with tons of competition for each position.

  3. If there was ever a question about collusion Reid proves it exists. And before the haters go off saying employers have a right to hire who they want, there is a collective bargaining agreement to prohibit the blackballing of players in a collusive manner.

    And watch the film on Manziel throwing against air. He didn’t look half as sharp as Kaepernick but I’ll bet he gets back in the league.

  4. It isn’t collusion when anyone with half a brain can plainly see that Reid and Kaepernick are far more trouble than they are worth.

  5. LOL give it up man. He’s as much of a goner as Kaep is. And what does that say about their “beliefs” when they’re willing to abandon them as soon as they realize they’re out of a job?

  6. Just because multiple teams don’t think he’s worth the trouble doesn’t mean the teams got together and made a pact about keeping out. I’m not polarized by either side of this debate, but it seems very clear to me that if any team thought Kapernick or Reid was a game-changer, they’d be on a roster. Teams (and fans) care about winning more than just about anything. Would they be on a roster if they weren’t a risky PR move for a team? Probably. But that’s the bed they made by making a political statement at their workplace– and Reid especially knew that he made based on his previous comments that he didn’t care if his actions impacted his attractiveness in free agency. He knew that was possible, and he was right. There are guys who can do his job at a similar level who aren’t going to turn off paying fans, and the teams think that’s the best move for their business at this point. Seems pretty clear to me.

  7. Didn’t realize the owners are forced to employ players they don’t want on their team. This doesn’t make any sense. If there was a team out there that thought his on field play was worth more than the possibility he could distract and/or divide the locker room, they would sign him. These owners have a hard time agreeing on many things and many hate each other, you actually think 32 owners would get together together to ban a single player ? Ridiculous. Good luck with that. I’m sure there is a lawyer out there willing to take his money but that’s ridiculous. It can never be just that owners don’t want you because you’re a distraction , it has to be collusion ? Smh.

  8. So him and Kap have collusion cases because they’re 2 of many players who kneeled but are the only 2 who remain unsigned? Even Marcus Peters is still on an NFL roster. If anything the fact many more players kneeled and are still employed proves there is no collusion

  9. No Collusion whatsoever. One more time…each owner on their Own can decide who they want representing their brand and who they dont, Whether its Reid or Kaepernick. The league is NOT under any obligation to hire anyone, its not a right to play in the NFL, its an honor and those players have no honor for our flag and country. Move to Canada and play up there

  10. Collusion infers that the owners are getting together to say do not sign a specific player. I guarantee that each of these organizations are arriving at their decision independently. The players aren’t good enough to be worth the headaches. Simple.

  11. footballpat says:
    And watch the film on Manziel throwing against air. He didn’t look half as sharp as Kaepernick but I’ll bet he gets back in the league.

    — When did Kaepernick schedule a throwing session? I must’ve missed it.

  12. Michael Bennett was another “vocal” protester, yet that didn’t stop the Eagles from trading for him. Can you explain that?

  13. No player is worth alienating your fanbase, no matter how good they are, and these owners are smart enough to know that.

  14. The only guy that has a true collusion case is ray rice. What he did was off the field. These guys disrespect the flag while they’re on the field, making it football issue. It’s worse than being a bad player, because the fans don’t care if a team pays a bad player, but they don’t want these idiots representing their team.

  15. Employers (NFL Owners) have a right to decide who they want on their team. If someone portrays a negative image that could hurt the image of that employer, they have the right not to employ that person. This idiot, brain dead football players have a hard time grasping this concept because they are too stupid to succeed in anything else.

  16. footballpat says:

    If there was ever a question about collusion Reid proves it exists. And before the haters go off saying employers have a right to hire who they want, there is a collective bargaining agreement to prohibit the blackballing of players in a collusive manner.

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    There is no collusion when reasonable people all come to the same conclusion independently.

    There is no collusion when the player has failed to start 10 games over the last two seasons and his current team does not resign him.

    You have no proof of anything untoward going on.

  17. There are 2 safeties rated higher on your own Top 100 FA list that are still unsigned. Vaccaro and Boston are both rated higher than Reid yet are unsigned. Also Branch who is also on the top 100 is unsigned. The only safeties from your top 100 FA’s that signed as FA’s are Morgan Burnett and Tyrann Mathieu, both rated higher than Reid on your top 100 FA list. Stop trying to make a story out of nothing. The Safety spot isn’t the high paying spot it once was and these guys are trying to get DE or LB money which the market right now is not willing to pay for a FS or SS, this is why Reid AND other safeties better than him remain unsigned.

  18. @akira you are a clown. Suh is visiting teams and he will sign with whoever he wants is totally different. It just amazes me how many americans are in denial about this.

  19. These guys put their money where their mouth is…For what ever reason… And LOST… Their collective stupidity is astounding.

  20. Neither Reid nor Kaepernick has a case, for one very simple reason: The fact that all 32 owners have deemed that having a police-bashing, America-bashing player on their roster is bad for business does not constitute collusion. What it does is confirm that the owners don’t want to harm their brand.

    Anyone who has ever run a business knows that you don’t hire people who use their status as your employee to promote causes that have nothing to do with your business model.

    I’m sorry, but if these two guys have a case, then so does Tim Tebow. The only difference is I don’t see Tebow whining about it.

  21. Do all of the other safeties who are arguably better than Reid have a collusion case? Do all of the player who do not get signed in a particularly age bracket, say aging RBs, have a case for collusion because Owners and GMs don’t sign them?

    This is getting crazy. Teams and owners are allowed to make the choice of who they bring in, for whatever reason. It is not collusion that no one has signed Kaepernick or Reid. It would only be collusion if every one of those owners got together and made a conscious decision that NONE of them would sign these guys. That did not happen and will NEVER be proven.

  22. You insult the owners by suggesting collusion as a method. Which of the owners do you think would be the first to call another in order to secretly join in an action they are absolutely entitled to take? Are you acting in secret with K and R?

  23. Closed minded people, no player is disrespecting the anthem, the flag or the police. They are protesting how certain people are being treated. If you took a moment to understand you might get it. You dont get it becsuse you dont want to. Take a moment or two and try.

  24. The following cases are all connected. The same people are behind all of them. Believe it or not.

    1. Kap cannot get even a tryout.
    2. Eric Reid gets no offer.
    3. Malcolm Butler was benched for no reason in the Super Bowl.

  25. Reid called Malcolm Jenkins a sellout for stopping his protest BUT, what Jenkins did was get regular meetings with police chief, mayor ect. Jenkins took his position and made a difference in his community. He takes ride alongs with police to see how hard their job is ect. Reid just wanted to make headlines. Now him and Kap can go to protests all winter while the players who really cared about change do something about it and work with the police ect for change.

  26. Hiramine 平峰Kei 慧 says: “@akira you are a clown. Suh is visiting teams and he will sign with whoever he wants is totally different. It just amazes me how many americans are in denial about this.”
    ——————–

    Eric Reid has said himself that his agent is in discussions with a couple of teams. That would not happen if the teams weren’t interested. Who’s the clown now?

  27. I just want to start off by saying I do think Reid is good enough to be on a team. Could probably start for multiple teams let alone be a good backup.

    That being said, too much stink over nothing is happening. First off, he started mouthing off about being blackballed for his protests way too early. There are many quality players and safeties still on the market, and honestly now he is just doing himself more harm than good by pouncing on this so early.

    2nd, I’m starting to think that he is trying to make himself a martyr much like Kaepernick was. Sherman’s quotes about Reid saying Reid is a top 5 or top 10 safety and should be paid like a top 5 or top 10 safety, is false. I can easily name 5 safeties better than him and I’m sure that it would be easy to name 10. That quote makes me think that maybe Sherman knows what Reid is asking for and Reid is either intentionally trying to price himself above what teams are willing to pay, to be the victim, or that he is trying to use this whole collusion scheme to force teams to overpay for him to avoid the subject of collusion being against him. For instance, Matheiu is better than Reid and he only got 7 million. That made Matheiu the 12th highest paid safety. I am sure Reid isn’t gonna get offers near what Mattheiu got, so that would already place him outside the top 10.

    Not to mention that he stated last year that he knows that his protesting could cause him to be blackballed out of the league and that he didn’t care, so he obviously doesn’t care that much about playing, and he clearly was already trying to be a martyr for his cause. Now all of a sudden he isn’t gonna protest the same way anymore and he cares about playing? Please, sounds like a game he is playing, but it isn’t football.

    Again though, I do think he is good enough to definitely be on a team and probably starting, but it is way to early to be starting this crap. I also think he will end up on a team, assuming that he actually wants to play and not just play the victim/martyr. This isn’t like Kaepernick. Kaepernick truly sucked. Reid has some talent.

    I will also say I at least respected Reid’s stance last year more than the others that sold out. I don’t agree with what they were doing, but Reid kept kneeling because nothing was resolved in what they are protesting for. Malcolm Jenkins and others have caved in to the almighty dollar. They are sellouts and it shows that they really don’t care about their cause, that they were just trying to extort someone because they saw an opportunity.

  28. Thats the problem. no one knows what the hell they are protesting. there was a survey conducted and NFL players list why they are protesting. it was from everything from police violence to the white man being powerful to better education to legalizing weed etc. no one knows what they are protesting about, most are just doing it to do it.

    qckappa says:
    March 23, 2018 at 9:26 am
    Closed minded people, no player is disrespecting the anthem, the flag or the police. They are protesting how certain people are being treated. If you took a moment to understand you might get it. You dont get it becsuse you dont want to. Take a moment or two and try.

  29. Actions have consequences, and sometimes that is a very hard lesson to learn!!!!

  30. All the teams have something in common, particularly common sense. But all the teams having something in common does not equal collusion. The bottom line is some players are huge ‘distractions’ that teams try to avoid. There was once a writer at PFT that reported on the “days without arrest meter”. He accurately reported how the ever increase it rap sheets by NFL players was bad for the brand, and something the league should clean up. It is evident that the league has done more diligence to steer away from players with questionable backgrounds. Is that collusion? Not hardly. It is common sense. They are protecting their brand, and reacting to feedback from their paying customers.

  31. If you want to protest, find a different way. When you do it during the national anthem, and say you are not protesting the anthem itself, many people will disagree with that. It becomes about the anthem whether it was intended that way or not

    FIND ANOTHER WAY

  32. Florio slow down, take off your lawyer hat and looks at this through the eyes of a business person.

    The safety market hasn’t is pretty much non-existent (outside of the Saints overpaying for one), the FA’s are average and the draft class is pretty strong.

    So a person who thinks business first and sue last might say that FA’s like Reid will get picked up by teams post draft at a discounted rate.

  33. The evidence Kaepernick generates in his effort to prove a concerted effort to keep him out of football could be used by other players also deemed to be undesirable due to pregame political activities.

    The law provides for protection against discrimination regarding employment. When did “political activities” get added to the list of prohibitive behavior. I’ll tell you when–it didn’t. I was wondering how long it would take until he wrote a story like this.

    Proving collusion is going to be very difficult, if not impossible. If he has a case against collusion then maybe Tim Tebow, Jeff George and Greg Hardy have a case as well. Maybe even T.O. Is he the next person to be mentioned in a collusion case?

  34. If I were a team owner, I would not have wanted my GM to bring a player with such distractions. By the way, I didn’t need any other owners to convince me of my feelings. It is hard enough to win in the NFL, and these added distractions can not in any way be helpful to that end goal.

  35. atthemurph says:
    March 23, 2018 at 7:21 am
    It isn’t collusion when anyone with half a brain can plainly see that Reid and Kaepernick are far more trouble than they are worth.
    ———————————————–

    Catchy statement….but not the law

  36. What a joke. Since many “kneelers” have been signed in FA, or have been traded to other teams (Ajayi, Bennett, etc.) it’s clear there is place in the NFL for kneelers.

    HOWEVER, there’s no place for gimmick, can’t-read-defenses QBs who need a special offense. That’s why RGIII AND KAEPERNICK are unemployed. Put them in a regular offense, like almost every runs, and they’re mediocrities with QB ratings in the 70s!

    As for Reid, he’s one of four Three-Star safeties in FA. Only one of the four has been signed. And considering Reid can only play in-the-box SS in a Cover 3 defense, he’s not even the better option of the three-star safeties for most teams.

  37. qckappa says:

    March 23, 2018 at 9:26 am

    Closed minded people, no player is disrespecting the anthem, the flag or the police.
    ============================================================
    If that were true, they would have found another way to “protest” than wearing “cops are pigs” socks and kneeling during the national anthem while wearing their employer’s uniform.

    Why don’t you try protesting for your own personal pet peeves on during working hours and see what your employer’s reaction is?

  38. So Reid has a viable collusion case since he wasn’t signed the first week of free agency? You’re outta your mind. In fact, neither one of these nimrods has a case, but I know you get paid to push this agenda since it’s your employer’s way. I’m pretty sure Reid will get another shot but you really need to tone down the “cry for wolf” mentality, but then again if it gets clicks…..

  39. One thing you never see in these stories is what are these guys asking for. Vet minimums? $10M? Seems it might make a difference. If he’s asking for vet minimum, give the Bengals a call. If $10M, I think he needs a lawyer to sue his agent for malpractice.

  40. I’m a chef and if I don’t make good food or manage labor or food cost I’m outta job. I garuntee if I’m protesting and not helping my linecooks when it’s crunch time I’m outta job. Why do these over privileged jocks think that the world is different for them? SMH

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