Jon Gruden reportedly disliked Marquette King’s personality, not his punting

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The Raiders cut punter Marquette King last week, and that came as a surprise. King is a solid punter who had a career-best 42.7-yard net average last season, and he still had three years left on his contract.

But new Raiders coach Jon Gruden apparently didn’t like King.

Veteran Raiders reporters Bill Williamson and Vic Tafur both reported that Gruden was the one who made the call to send King packing, and that Gruden had personality issues with King.

What exactly those personality issues were is unclear, but King also drew the ire of former Raiders coach Jack Del Rio, who said in 2016 that he was growing tired of King’s antics after King picked up 15-yard personal foul penalties in back-to-back games.

Cutting King knocks $2.9 million off the Raiders’ salary cap, and whoever the Raiders eventually sign to replace him will surely cost less than that. So there’s a financial reason to get rid of King. But the biggest reason may be about a personality clash.

126 responses to “Jon Gruden reportedly disliked Marquette King’s personality, not his punting

  1. A showboating punter, is not a Gruden Grinder.

    I could see this one coming a mile away. But then I thought Gruden might be smart enough to let talent overcome his ego. I was wrong.

  2. Its okay to be a diva, alcoholic, repeat drug user, wife beater, or even a jerk in this league……as long as your not punter. Punters are to be seen and not heard. What I learned today from the NFL.

  3. Seems like the Raiders who looked so promising and a team on the rise 2 years ago is trending downward with questionable decisions. Khalil Mack is a stud but Derek Carr and Armani Cooper don’t look like the superstars we thought they might be. The Jordy Nelson signing for that amount of $ was very odd. Did they watch a Green Bay game last year. The guy couldn’t gain a yard after the catch and had trouble separating from 3rd and 4th string CBs. Jon Gruden seems like he’s trying to bring back football from in his early coaching years.

  4. Good for Gruden. I appreciate coaches who stand up to these caudled babies.

    My way or the highway. And if you chose the highway it will cost you dearly. Just ask the kneelers.

  5. If you ever wanted a non-controversial good example of value vs headache this is it (excluding Kap and Tebow). If he was a WR his personality would be no problem.

  6. So he disliked his personality?? This isn’t a personality contest. This is about weather a guy can do the job or not. Now that Gruden’s got some power, he’s acting just like Al Davis in his senile years.

  7. Either the players in Oakland are in for a rude awakening with Gruden’s “1998 throwback” style, or Gruden is in for a rude awakening when he realizes his approach is antiquated and out of touch.

    Either way, it’s hard to feel confident in this team right now, especially with their 2012 style Doug Martin-Lynch backfield. Oh boy.

  8. I live in the Bay area and Bill Williamson and Vic have no insight on what happened..This is the age of fake news & lack of fact check..Shame if this site copies stories with outbfact checking..These are lies it was about $$$$..

  9. jbaxt says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    Good for Gruden. I appreciate coaches who stand up to these caudled babies.

    My way or the highway. And if you chose the highway it will cost you dearly. Just ask the kneelers.

    If this guy was a DE that put up double digit sacks…coddled baby or not, he stays. The guy is a punter who has one job and likely takes up 15-20 min of practice every other day. Lots of options to replace him, with little drop off…Gruden deserves no credit, King wrote his own story.

  10. It will be interesting to see how he handles Beast Mode. Who had both unsportsmanlike penalties and a ejection last year if I’m not mistaken.

  11. I’m a Raiders fan and can honestly say there hasn’t been a move that Gruden has made that I’ve liked yet and we haven’t even made it to the draft. Starting to see why he was canned from his last job. Not sure what all the fuss was over this guy. Sounds like the ultimate control freak.

  12. bvolke says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:12 pm
    A punter with an attitude? Better knock that off. Punters are a dime a dozen. You’ll be bagging groceries.
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    LOL. King will be punting in the NFL longer than Gruden will be coaching in it.

  13. Jon Gruden left the NFL because if the team wasn’t already built and ready to compete. This a burnt out HC out of the game for 10 or more years who will destroy a once-promising football team. Gruden couldn’t build a team on his own. The Raiders will again finish last in the AFC West. Jay and Jon will always be just.500 HCs!

  14. jhein23 says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    Jon Gruden seems like he’s trying to bring back football from in his early coaching years.
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    Remind you of a guy named Jeff Fisher?

  15. Simply more proof that NFL coaches are NOT about winning first and foremost.

  16. Chuckie is on the prowl
    You may not win it all in Oakland and Las Vegas, but the entertainment quotient will be interesting.

  17. Seems like someone who would catch the attention of the Jags. They like the ball control, safe style with Gabbert back there and they had one of the worst punters in the league. Playing the field position battle with a better punter makes more sense

  18. Whatever happened to coachimg? Everyone says this guy is one of the better punters, he is on your team, and you cut him. No try to coach him? What’s next, get off my lawn. It is going to be weird when you are in year three and noway the Raiders buy him out at year four. War nfl replay giving us one more look at that five interception half from that guy in Buffalo.

  19. I am a Cowboys fan and don’t see a lot of Raider Football. But I enjoyed King and was impressed with his willingness to turn into a full on football beast chasing down returners or whatever was needed. If only all kickers showed this much moxie AFTER they kick, the team would have a solid extra defender. Generally speaking, if you have only the punter to get by its a touchdown!!! Not with Marquette!!! I guess the little advantages don’t matter to the EXPERTS!!!

  20. Marquette King’s problem is that he thought he was real football player and not just the idiot kicker as Peyton Manning would elegantly put it.

  21. Jon Gruden has a $100 million contract. Obviously, he’s the one making all the calls. I don’t think these reporters are breaking any news. The Raiders went 6-10 last year with this punter who makes $3 million. So even if he’s the greatest punter in the world, it obviously isn’t an extremely important position, or they wouldn’t have gone 6-10. Why pay $3 million for a non-important player? The money can be better spent elsewhere. I’m sure Gruden would get a kick out of a guy like Antonio Brown if he did something funny after an 80 yard TD catch/run. I don’t know of any successful coaches that would feel the same about a punter acting stupid after a kick. Could you imagine Belichick? Bill Walsh would have cut this clown mid-season. Don Shula? Huh. Don’t get me started. Winning coaches don’t have time for clowning around.

  22. The Vikings are already set to bring him on board. Just do your job son is Zimmer’s montra!

  23. If this is true…it’s a loser move. King is a quality kicker and a pretty good athlete. Field position is key to having a successful season..,,Gruden will regret this.

  24. I have to love these (so called fake Raider fans) who post these unbelievable posts saying things REAL Raider fans would never think of saying …..the haters have some real hard core thinkers on there side >>>LOL>>>LOL>>>LOL

    RAIDER$LIFE

  25. I had a problem with King making a joke about a teammate getting their chain snatched. Gruden is changing the attitude in the locker room. That is why he is signing veterans. He wants players who will take their job and responsibilities serious. I love the move it signals to the locker room that Gruden is here for one goal Just Win Baby.

  26. Good for Gruden. I appreciate coaches who stand up to these caudled babies.

    My way or the highway. And if you chose the highway it will cost you dearly. Just ask the kneelers.
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    King Still get’s paid, plus whatever his new team offers him. He will also be playing longer than Gruden will be coaching.

  27. silvernblackpride says:
    I have to love these (so called fake Raider fans) who post these unbelievable posts saying things REAL Raider fans would never think of saying …..the haters have some real hard core thinkers on there side >>>LOL>>>LOL>>>LOL
    ==

    I believe you’re confusing the terms “fan” and “fanboy.”
    A true fan can love and support his team, win or lose, yet still be honest about it, knowing it doesn’t always make the smartest or the right moves all the time.
    A fanboy merely accepts whatever the team does, good or bad, and touts every move it makes as though it were the smartest and best ever — evidence to the contrary, truth and honesty be damned.
    I’ll take an honest and knowledgeable fan over a cheer-leading fanboy every time.

  28. Any kicker or punter who earns a 15 yard penalty and didn’t earn it by tackling someone too hard would be off my team if it happened a second time.

  29. King is not above the team, as he thought he was…if your a locker room distraction or cancer…cut it out and get rid of it…and when you disrespect your own teammates…your a problem…bye Felicia…

  30. Good ole Gruden, pissing off people in the front office and locker room already.

  31. Chuckie being chuckie…..
    Can’t wait for the sideline scowl and the f bombs.
    Networks should just have Gruden cam every game.
    Probably more entertaining than what the NFL is claiming as football these days.

  32. So he will put up with Skittles Lynch and his antics but the punter who’s actually very productive better not even think about it. Gotcha !! Chucky will be gone sooner than later !

  33. The real problem was he was actually having fun,and we know football isn’t about that. When are these players going to get that any expression of thier personality is immediately frowned upon by all the real football fans that just want them to shut up and do their jobs! Even though if you ask those same real fans to never show emotion or have fun at thier places of work, they would laugh in your face! Get with it players.

  34. If I was being paid millions to just punt I would be washing the coach’s car with a smile on my face every day.

    Some guys are born fast, some guys are born strong, and some guys are born stupid.

  35. “Gruden was the one who made the call to send King packing, and that Gruden had personality issues with King.”

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    Who could possibly argue with Gruden, because after all he’s a great HC (at least in his own mind & Son-of-Al’s). So of course a player who was an undisputed asset on the field for the Raiders but rubs the living legend the wrong way must go. While a proven cancer like Lynch stays.

    But Gruden isn’t unique among Raider HC’s who have been egomaniacs – Hue Jackson also comes to mind and unfortunately for the Raiders sake I think that the on-field results in Gruden’s 2nd Raider stint will resemble Jackson’s career.

  36. Dude was always trying to bring attention to himself. Stupid dancing after he makes a mundane punt. He punted a cake in his instagram for carr’s birthday but he knew the idiots in NFL network would pick up on it in the dog days when it was slow. Also figure the dumb penalties, making fun of a teammate chain snatching and a totally bloated salary why keep him? Oh and I never seen this clown run down and tackle anyone. A previously poster nailed it on the head, he thought he was a real football player but just an idiot kicker.

  37. mentallywoozy says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    If you ever wanted a non-controversial good example of value vs headache this is it (excluding Kap and Tebow). If he was a WR his personality would be no problem.
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    You’ve gotta be kidding me…. WRs are the 2nd most polarizing NFL players behind QBs. Why do you think the Giants are trying to trade the best player on their team??

  38. tollisonsmith says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:58 pm
    Whatever happened to coachimg? Everyone says this guy is one of the better punters, he is on your team, and you cut him. No try to coach him? What’s next, get off my lawn. It is going to be weird when you are in year three and noway the Raiders buy him out at year four. War nfl replay giving us one more look at that five interception half from that guy in Buffalo.
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    I guess you think he had no special teams coach that tried to coach him? I suppose you think that the head coach didn’t talk to him after getting the unsportsmanlike penalty? Next you’ll think that Kap just needed to be coached on kneeling.

  39. huge mistake letting Gruden make personnel decisions…should have let Reggie do his job….if Gruden fails, its time for Davis to go.

  40. psubeerman21 says:
    April 1, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    The real problem was he was actually having fun,and we know football isn’t about that. When are these players going to get that any expression of thier personality is immediately frowned upon by all the real football fans that just want them to shut up and do their jobs! Even though if you ask those same real fans to never show emotion or have fun at thier places of work, they would laugh in your face! Get with it players.
    ********************************************************************************
    Yep, tons of fun going 6-10. Gruden is getting paid $100 million to make it fun for Mark Davis and the fans who pay money to watch the Raiders win. Gruden is all about having fun, just the right kind of fun. Gruden is going to get the Raiders back to a place in time when winning 10 games was considered mediocre.

  41. If this guy was a DE that put up double digit sacks…coddled baby or not, he stays. The guy is a punter who has one job and likely takes up 15-20 min of practice every other day. Lots of options to replace him, with little drop off…Gruden deserves no credit, King wrote his own story…nah,Gruden decimated the Buc defense and never won another super bowl…

  42. Well this isnt as bad as the Dolphins trading Jay Ajayi to teach him a lesson.

  43. While as a Raider fan this move was a bit of a head scratcher, I’m gonna call BS on this. According to the collective bargaining agreement, they really shouldn’t have had enough interaction to get on each other’s nerves yet. The bottom line is they can save a ton of money at that position and only give up 2 more yards net per punt. Although, I do think Gruden likes to be the biggest personality on the field.

  44. Wow. Can’t believe how many wet-behind-the-ears schmoes are knocking Gruden.

    The dude was a good coach with success on more than one team.

    Hold your idiotic criticisms because you don’t like the way he announced.

    Geeze. This forum is so tiring sometimes…

  45. somatg3 says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    “Sounds like the ultimate control freak.”

    imagine that . . . a head coach who wants to be in control of the team.

    how odd.

  46. Good fit for Minnesota with a personality like that. Fight-pickers. They love ’em there.

  47. “I loved that guy, man! Total baller, but man, we are going in a new direction. I’ve been talking to so many street dudes that want to play for the Silver and Black, it aint even funny.” I love this, man! We are so back!
    ___________________________
    and so it goes, on and on. His act has really gone stale. At least he is out of the booth.

  48. Eagles need a punter but he better just punt and leave the personality behind.

  49. 1nationraidernation says:
    April 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    huge mistake letting Gruden make personnel decisions…should have let Reggie do his job….if Gruden fails, its time for Davis to go.
    =====================================================

    He owns the team. Where is he going to go?

  50. xavier179 says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:26 pm
    Jon Gruden, it will be a long ten years, especially since the game has passed you by.
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    I guess you think he took 10 years off from the NFL? He hasn’t watched any tape, or done any evaluations on players since then, huh?

  51. Probably won’t fit in the excellent viking lockerroom. Never did like his bs. Not worth the drama.

  52. omeimontis says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:33 pm

    I wondered if he fired King via Twitter.
    _________________
    Equivalent results for him doing so would be winning the SuperBowl considering US now has the LOWEST ever Black unemployment rate, 5% projected Q1 growth, a tax cut of $1,000+ for 91% of middle income taxpayers (source: bernie), capitulation by North Korea, and the destruction of ISIS. You’ve got to get out of bubble of cognitive dissonance, son.

  53. King’s behavior on the field and sidelines was rather flamboyant, something you don’t see in punters. Gruden can find an Aussie rules footballer who can do the same on the cbeap.

  54. I usually don’t like it when someone loses their job, but i don’t have one ounce of remorse for this turd, he thought he was a “king” with his attitude and arrogance so now he can work at Burger “King”.

  55. So will he cut anyone else when they dance or get a little flamboyant? Pretty sure he won’t cut Mack after a sack dance or one of his corners for a unsportsmanlike.

  56. dregonspengler says:
    April 1, 2018 at 3:49 pm
    silvernblackpride says:
    I have to love these (so called fake Raider fans) who post these unbelievable posts saying things REAL Raider fans would never think of saying …..the haters have some real hard core thinkers on there side >>>LOL>>>LOL>>>LOL
    ==

    I believe you’re confusing the terms “fan” and “fanboy.”
    A true fan can love and support his team, win or lose, yet still be honest about it, knowing it doesn’t always make the smartest or the right moves all the time.
    A fanboy merely accepts whatever the team does, good or bad, and touts every move it makes as though it were the smartest and best ever — evidence to the contrary, truth and honesty be damned.
    I’ll take an honest and knowledgeable fan over a cheer-leading fanboy every time.
    ______________________________________________________________

    Most thoughtful and honest comment on the board.
    Thank you Dregon

  57. 1nationraidernation says:
    April 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    huge mistake letting Gruden make personnel decisions…should have let Reggie do his job….if Gruden fails, its time for Davis to go.

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    Who says Gruden didn’t go to Reggie and Reggie felt the same way? RM might be a it ticked that even while being paid well he’s still a clown.

    I like King but this is like signing Ray Ray Armstrong long term. The guy has the talent, he’s just never going to get the “it” part of all. And they’ll never grow up.

  58. And the same goes for Sio Moore. Immature players have been sent packing one by one of the last few years.

  59. stucats says:
    April 1, 2018 at 7:51 pm
    I usually don’t like it when someone loses their job, but i don’t have one ounce of remorse for this turd, he thought he was a “king” with his attitude and arrogance so now he can work at Burger “King”

    //////////////////////

    I would think he has enough money to buy into a burger “King” franchise. An owner makes between 100K-300K per year with all the hamburgers they can eat.

  60. “He’ll fit right in with the Eagles?”

    Yeah, our players really get out of line…

    Guys like Jason Peters, Fletcher Cox, Chris Long and Jason Kelce will absolutely break your neck if you get out of line in Philly. All Carson has to do is look at you funny.

    This Bennett character? He farts funny and I could see JP absolutely destroying him and them kicking him out the door.

    Eagles don’t play with idiots. You may get a chance, but act the fool and you’re gone in Philly.

    Nice try though dummy.

  61. It was about $$$, due 3 million this year, but no doubt a punter leading the team in unsportsmanlike penalties didnt help. And it wasnt like he was out there roughing guys up sending a message like a few of the more physical teams do on occasion, all the ones I saw were silly “look at me” showboating.

  62. you guys are a joke . you cut the 4th rated punter I the NFL and you think Gruden is God. He is only relevant because that was Dungy’s team.

  63. A coach that isn’t going to put up with boneheads that get penalties….especially a punter is a bit refreshing.
    Sounds like he wants players that play for the team name instead of the name on the back of the jersey.
    The question I have is if he makes it a team rule that all players must stand for the national anthem…..does it hold up ?
    Teams have all kinds of rules…..curfews,how they dress when traveling etc…..I mean the Yankees have a no facial hair team policy as a term of employment….this is going to get very real very quickly in Oakland

  64. The only good thing about Jon Gruden being a head coach again is that you’re no longer subjected to him on Monday Night Football.

  65. Hopefully this guy doesn’t have to learn the hard way, like Kluwe did, that punters should be seen and not heard.

  66. Hey Jon: You’re doing the same thing to MK that Al Davis did to you years ago! You obviously have a very short memory. I hope MK comes back to haunt you. Stupid move!

  67. Which narrative is better for Marquette King:

    – the Raiders felt they could find a cheaper option that was just as good

    – Jon Gruden didn’t like his personality

    Talent > Personality

    He’ll have a job this year. Probably with a contender. It’s really win/win: Gruden makes his point that no one is untouchable and King gets paid somewhere else.

  68. Edward Halverson says:
    April 1, 2018 at 6:47 pm

    1nationraidernation says:
    April 1, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    huge mistake letting Gruden make personnel decisions…should have let Reggie do his job….if Gruden fails, its time for Davis to go.
    ==

    He owns the team. Where is he going to go?

    =============================================

    Likely into bankruptcy when he can’t fund the massive debts he’s taken on with the Vegas move. Because the Raiders won’t draw flies there without a winning product and they’re headed in the polar opposite direction with the Gruden hire.

    The good news is that when Son-of-Al is forced to sell his ownership stake the Raiders may get a decent owner who hires the right people to run the football operations and keeps his hands off those decisions.

  69. Gruden looks to be tearing down the Raiders.

    There are few kickers / punters who have swagger, but the few who do (King, Tucker) do so because their play on the field backs it up.

    I would guess the Raiders lose at least 1-2 games on punting mistakes / poor field position that would have been worth that 3 million. Bad decision.

  70. nobledictator1278 says:
    April 1, 2018 at 2:15 pm
    Its okay to be a diva, alcoholic, repeat drug user, wife beater, or even a jerk in this league……as long as your not punter. Punters are to be seen and not heard. What I learned today from the NFL.

    This wasn’t an NFL decision. This was a Jon Gruden decision.

  71. charliecharger says:
    April 1, 2018 at 3:15 pm
    Jon Gruden has a $100 million contract. Obviously, he’s the one making all the calls. I don’t think these reporters are breaking any news. The Raiders went 6-10 last year with this punter who makes $3 million. So even if he’s the greatest punter in the world, it obviously isn’t an extremely important position, or they wouldn’t have gone 6-10….
    _________________________________

    By that hillbilly logic; the QB got paid $25M last year and they went 6-10, so even if he’s the greatest QB in the world, it obviously isn’t an extremely important position, or they wouldn’t have gone 6-10.

  72. Man, it’s great not being a Raiders fan.start showing some signs of devwlopimg a solid team (despite that bum Del Rio) and they sentence themselves to a 10 year stint with a has-been who if he had it his way, would have 53 QBs on the roster. Problem with “his way or the highway” is he was sent packing for “his way”. I think teams should follow the Kubiak/Pedersen mold. A guy players respect AND like so they will WANT to play for him. This is going to end badly for the Raiders.

  73. Would Belichick put up with a twitter obsessed dancing punter that gets penalties?? Of course he wouldn’t!

  74. @ezpkns34 says:

    Seems like someone who would catch the attention of the Jags. They like the ball control, safe style with Gabbert back there and they had one of the worst punters in the league. Playing the field position battle with a better punter makes more sense
    =================================================================================
    Gabbert hasn’t played for the Jags for 3 years.

  75. silvernblacksabbath says:
    April 2, 2018 at 9:42 am

    Would Belichick put up with a twitter obsessed dancing punter that gets penalties?? Of course he wouldn’t!

    ======================

    I don’t follow the Pats closely, but to my knowledge Belichick has taken his chances on his share of show-boating players. For instance he signed Chad Johnson (“Ocho Cinco”). As a hugely successful HC (i.e. unlike Gruden) Belichick bases his decisions on whether the player is productive on the field and can take instructions from the coaching staff.

    I don’t think New England needs a punter but if they did, I’m sure that Belichick would sign Marquette King in a heartbeat. And despite King’s show-boating, there’s no evidence that he’s disruptive to team chemistry (unlike Marshawn Lynch).

  76. Remember the Grammaticas and how their antics were beloved by all? Now we get a Grammatica style punter. Bleh

  77. “Message sent” to everybody in the locker room. New sheriff is in town. Those 15 yard penalties are the difference between winning and losing several games.

  78. Ha ha. I know he wasn’t going to put up with the drinking kicker or dancing punter.

  79. LOL. King will be punting in the NFL longer than Gruden will be coaching in it.
    ______

    Gruden made more in his first coaching stint than King will ever make in his lifetime.

    Then quadrupple it – thanks to ESPN and the Raiders Part 2.

  80. Gruden doesn’t like bone headed penalties, especially from a punter who’s in to do just one thing. Plus that salary was pretty extravagant for a punter. Gruden is a film junky and I can see his scowl now after seeing the personal fouls by a punter.

    All in all though, if I’m just a fan, I like the fact that a punter has some swag. But only if he’s willing to lay someone out. It’s actually entertaining to see kickers and punters head hunt and make tackles.

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