Browns want Josh Allen, or they want everyone to think it

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As the Browns keep their cards close to the vest regarding plans for the first overall pick in the draft, the Browns may have accidentally given everyone a peak at their hand. And it relates to the hand. Specifically, the size of it.

“You all laugh at me when I say it, but I think hand size is important,” G.M. John Dorsey said during a pre-draft press conference on Thursday, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “With that being said, hand size in November and December, when it’s snowing, raining, it’s getting muddy. We all know the elements in Cleveland are going to play a role.”

If hand size is important, the finger points to quarterback Josh Allen, who has the hand size to hold onto the ball. It also points away from quarterback Sam Darnold, who had 21 fumbles in 24 starts at USC.

Of course, Dorsey’s comments about hand size may have simply been aimed at getting everyone to think that Allen is the guy, when in reality he isn’t.

Regardless of which quarterback it is, most believe the Browns will indeed pick a quarterback with the first overall pick. Allen, Darnold, Baker Mayfield, who knows? But Dorsey may have inadvertently dropped a significant clue on Thursday.

39 responses to “Browns want Josh Allen, or they want everyone to think it

  1. If you really want Josh Allen, isn’t it worth the risk to pick Barkley first? You still have a decent (but not definite) shot at Allen at four.

  2. Drafting a guy #1 overall that could NOT pass for a messily 2000 yards over an 11 game span at the mid major level of the NCAA does unfortunately does sound like something the Browns would do.

  3. Hey Mr. Dorsey, I have very large hands. If that is your #1 criteria give me a shout. Oh, I never fumbled in high school either. Just thought I would throw that in.

  4. Josh Allen first overall would be the worst draft pick in NFL history, especially after Darnold, Rosen, and possibly Mayfield have successful careers.

  5. Still don’t believe it. It CAN’T be him. Can it? CAN IT???

    I think I read that Dorsey went with Mahomes last year based on the interview and how he knew his way around playbooks, play-calling, etc. Of course, obviously, he has the rocket arm. Man, I hope Mahomes lights it up as a starter. Just a little more confidence that the rookie we have on the bench was the right guy.

  6. Take your favorite QB at #1 and live with that decision, John. #4 will yield an excellent addition no matter how the chips fall. Barkley or Chubb will be there. Very likely they both will be there.

    I want accountability: to know you took the QB you and your team evaluated to be the best.

  7. It’s interesting that everyone has latched on to that tidbit, when he literally went on to say that he thought accuracy was the most important tribute, which clearly points away from Josh Allen. He was just blowing smoke.

  8. If this is subterfuge, it would only be aimed at the #4 pick. Specifically, signaling (falsely) to teams who might want the same guy that they do NOT need to jump ahead of Browns into #2 or #3 for him.

  9. As far as I can search, there are only two QBs that Dorsey has drafted with a below 60% completion percentage in college – Craig Nall in 2002 and Matt Flynn in 2008. The last three QBs Dorsey has drafted had the following rates: Aaron Murray – 62%, Kevin Hogan – 65%, Patrick Mahomes – 64%. Aaron Rogers had a 63% rate. With Allen sitting at 56% I just don’t see it happening. Remember, Dorsey surprised everyone with all the trades before FA. To me the Allen talk is smoke. The Browns are linked to all the big 4 QBs except Rosen. Don’t be surprised if Rosen is the name called first. I also would not be surprised if they go with Mayfield – 68.5% rate (70.5% last season and he doesn’t throw INTs).

  10. Dorsey didn’t draft Aaron or Flynn. He was never the GM in Green Bay. All draft decisions prior to this year were Thompson, Wolf, Sherman going that far back….

  11. heynow16 says:
    April 20, 2018 at 1:00 pm
    If you really want Josh Allen, isn’t it worth the risk to pick Barkley first? You still have a decent (but not definite) shot at Allen at four.
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    No. If you really want someone, you don’t pass on him.

  12. >>>heynow16 says:
    If you really want Josh Allen, isn’t it worth the risk to pick Barkley first? You still have a decent (but not definite) shot at Allen at four.

    Absolutely. There is only one Barkley, and none of us knows which of these QBs will be great or even good. Take Barkley first, and then take a QB at No. 4.

  13. .
    Among the draftniks there’s no consensus on the QBs. It’s almost pointless to try to figure out in what order they’ll come off the board. However, it will make for an interesting review three years from now.
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  14. I for one dearly hope it’s smoke. I really don’t think Allen is anything special and no amount of time on the bench is going to make him great. Kyle Boller all over again. Heck, it’s Kizer all over again. Literally any of the other 3 QBs or even trade down at 4 and take Jackson and more picks in the middle of the round sounds better than Allen at #1.

  15. Not sure what the point of pretending is if you have the first overall pick. Maybe the Browns are stupid enough to think someone will trade ahead of them at Pick 0?

  16. If they want continuity after Tyrod Taylor then Baker Mayfield is the guy. Dorsey also said in that press conference that winning was the most important factor above all else. Which QB won the most– Mayfield.

  17. The Cleveland Browns ARE NOT picking a quarterback in the 1st round.

    They are trying to acquire more draft picks.

  18. I’m so confused….. Shouldn’t one of the prerequisites to being considered the first pick overall be that you are actually really good in College?

    How does a guy with a fairly average College careers get pumped like this?

  19. I recall the scouting report on Jimmy Garropollo said that the concern was his hands were too small as was his small stature and then learned that his hands, height, weight were exactly the same as Aaron Rogers.

  20. Is anyone linking the Giants to Allen? I don’t like the guy for a team like the Browns or the Jets, they would be better off with Darnold/Mayfield/Rosen but, if you think about it the best situation for Allen to possibly succeed would be with the Giants and having him learn behind Eli for 1-2 years. Also, nobody has heard anything about Allen and the Giants.

  21. He also said accuracy is the most important thing for a quarterback but keep latching on to this hand size comment

  22. I have never cared less who a team takes 1st overall.Regardless of who it is, it will end up being the wrong choice and the guy will be out of the league in 3 years. It’s really a sad state when kids are actively trying to not get drafted by you.

  23. Smokescreen, which I’m fine with. They are taking Mayfield.

    Their goal here is to keep everyone on their toes so they can bait some team into trading up to #2 for a QB before the draft, leaving Cleveland their choice of best available non-QB at #4.

  24. teal379 says:
    April 20, 2018 at 1:28 pm
    Dorsey didn’t draft Aaron or Flynn. He was never the GM in Green Bay. All draft decisions prior to this year were Thompson, Wolf, Sherman going that far back…

    Right, but Dorsey was the director of college scouting and had a big say in who they drafted.

  25. I think Allen will end up being the best QB in this draft. Only time will tell.

  26. Out of curiosity, I checked into the measurables from Tyrod Taylor’s combine. His hand size is a 10.00 which is slightly smaller than Allen and slightly larger than Darnold.

  27. I would not dismiss the hand size thing so fast. Or the arm strength factor. Those are 2 rare qualities both Favre and Rodgers shared.Josh Allen is comparable there.

    The other quality the Packer greats had is all-time competitiveness and Houdini-like ability to escape the rush. To me, that is Baker Mayfield.

  28. rowdymon says:
    April 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm
    teal379 says:
    April 20, 2018 at 1:28 pm
    Dorsey didn’t draft Aaron or Flynn. He was never the GM in Green Bay. All draft decisions prior to this year were Thompson, Wolf, Sherman going that far back…

    Right, but Dorsey was the director of college scouting and had a big say in who they drafted.

    ——————–

    No, not really. Ted would take the input from scouts and make his own decisions. Well known. Draft picks are Ted’s and no one else’s. It’s the reason why scouts left GB. They’d do a ton of work, talk about who was what and then Ted would go draft a guy like Sprigs or Harrell. Scouts reported what they saw, now what they thought was best for the team. That was on Ted alone.

  29. I do not understand the thought process of those that believe the most QB starved team in the league should draft a RB #1 and just hope for the best at #4. What ever happened to common sense?

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