New York Times publishes more secretly-recorded quotes from last year’s anthem meeting

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The secret recording made during last year’s meeting between owners, league executives, and players regarding the anthem protests extend well beyond Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie calling the current presidency “f–king disastrous.”

The New York Times has published more quotes from the meeting, and they are at times revealing and at other times inflammatory.

As to the issue of kneeling during the national anthem, Patriots owner Robert Kraft delivered a strong assessment of the Commander-in-Chief’s strategy.

“The problem we have is, we have a president who will use that as fodder to do his mission that I don’t feel is in the best interests of America,” Kraft said. “It’s divisive and it’s horrible.”

Kraft has been a strong supporter and close friend of President Trump. Previously, Kraft publicly expressed dismay at the tone of President Trump’s comment when he said as to any player who fails to stand during the anthem, “Get that son of a bitch off the field.”

Also during the meeting, Texans owner Bob McNair urged players to stop kneeling.

“You fellas need to ask your compadres, fellas, stop that other business, let’s go out and do something that really produces positive results, and we’ll help you,” McNair said.

The article provides a glimpse into the way the sausage gets made. And the message, as characterized by the Times, is that everyone was focused on making their own sausage recipe.

For the players, Colin Kaepernick‘s status was mentioned multiple times.

“If he was on a roster right now, all this negativeness and divisiveness could be turned into a positive,” Eagles defensive lineman Chris Long said during the meeting, regarding Kaepernick.

Then-49ers safety Eric Reid (who has recently had a hard time finding a job), complained about Kaepernick’s inability to land a roster spot.

“I feel like he was hung out to dry,” Reid said at the meeting. “Everyone in here is talking about how much they support us. Nobody stepped up and said we support Colin’s right to do this. We all let him become Public Enemy No. 1 in this country, and he still doesn’t have a job.”

Not mentioned at all in the story is the fact that someone breached the broader trust of the circumstances by secretly recording the discussion and by leaking it to the Times, during the NFL’s biggest week of the offseason for TV audience, brand messaging, and overall glass-90-percent-full positivity. As the league gets ready for the annual draft, some within positions of power and influence have to be wondering who made the recording and disseminated it.

And they’re probably not happy about it.

89 responses to “New York Times publishes more secretly-recorded quotes from last year’s anthem meeting

  1. So the players made half of the customers furious and Kraft blames Trump for it?

    Bring on the XFL.

  2. The part of this story I’ve always been confused about is how folks pretend nobody cared until Trump told them to care. It’s ultimately a fairly irrelevant detail of the story that got people who don’t even follow football worked up. The NFL’s actual customers were upset over this from Kneel #1.

  3. Kraft has overseen an organization that cheats on a regular basis. For him to be some sort of moral compass is outrageous.

  4. If the players made half the customers furious, the NFL should rebrand and market itself to a different base. The faction of Americans who are fuirous about people standing up against police brutality and inconsistencies in criminal justice aren’t who this game is played for and don’t represent the people who play it.

  5. “And they’re probably not happy about it.”

    Too bad.

    They should still do the right thing.

  6. Unfortunately those that choose not to believe this won’t believe it. A great tool such as the internet has been weaponized so people can choose their won facts. Society is a shared system of truths. If we can no longer agree what a 20 dollar bill is worth then it becomes worthless. I don’t know if society can survive with people CHOOSING their own facts. There is a distinct difference between being incorrect and choosing to be incorrect. It’s a matter of will.

    This is a dangerous slippy slope we are playing on. We better all be more careful going forward. Especially if you claim to truly love this country.

  7. “Kraft blames Trump for it?”

    Irregardless what Kraft said, when you have a 5 time draft dodger who doesn’t even know the words for the anthem, he has no right to criticize the players, especially for personal political gain which in no way benefits the country. Trump has zero respect for the flag, military or for that matter the country except as an ATM for the 1%

  8. Maybe the owners leaked this to show that they cared and were trying to work with their players in order to look better in the eye of public opinion or better yet in the case in front of them from CKrapernick.

  9. Also during the meeting, Texans owner Bob McNair urged players to stop kneeling.

    “You fellas need to ask your compadres, fellas, stop that other business, let’s go out and do something that really produces positive results, and we’ll help you,” McNair said.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    You make it seem like mcnair didnt say the second part of the quote. that should be the main focus of what he said.
    essentially- lets stop making this about the anthem, and go out and make a difference. kind of doesnt play into the narrative that mcnair is a monster though right?

  10. My takeaway from these leaks is that the owners are saying what all of us (patriots and lovers of this fine nation) already feel. Stop the offensive and disrespectful protests and we’ll listen and support your cause in a way that is productive and will bring about positive change.
    The players have maintained that their protests have never been to be meant as disrespectful. Unfortunately for them, actions speak louder than words.
    Kaepernick even questioned standing for the anthem in his acceptance speech for the lefty award he just won. He spoke in generalities about a country. He’s wildly out of bounds when speaking about the USA. It’s individuals that are at fault here. Racist individuals.
    These people don’t represent the flag. No one human being is bigger than the flag.
    Bottom line—-stand and pay your respects. Then we can all go create change together.

  11. News like this makes me proud to have cancelled cable tv, and dissolved the fantasy league I’ve run for the last 15 years. Back to watching local games over the public air ways and gladly kicking the NFL and it’s sponsers out of my wallet as much as possible.

  12. SO if anybody EVER wondered why Brady (or any player) would NOT hand over their personal cell phone to the sive that is the NFL league offices….here is your answer. NOTHING remains private once they have their hands on it

  13. “Well, if it’s in the New York Times, then there’s a 30% chance it’s true.”

    So, someone faked the voices of 30 owners, 1 commissioner and various players. Made it all sound bad for the NFL and then gave it to the Times.

    This country is in serious trouble if that is what you believe.

  14. No Mr Reid………the league did not make Colin public enemy #1……Colin did that all by himself……you see actions have consequences. If Mr McNair says somthing stupid, that he pays for that. What Mr Kaepernick did is no different.

    You offend people, you pay the price…………why is what is fair on one side not fair on the other?

  15. It’s not just the kneeling. Let’s not forget Kaepernick wore socks depicting police as pigs and says he is fighting for justice and against oppression and then wears a Fidel Castro t-shirt.

  16. bigblue00 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    News like this makes me proud to have cancelled cable tv, and dissolved the fantasy league I’ve run for the last 15 years. Back to watching local games over the public air ways and gladly kicking the NFL and it’s sponsers out of my wallet as much as possible.
    ——————————————–
    And yet you still visit NFL news sites and click and leave comments. Imagine cancelling your cable and dissolving your 15-year fantasy league because of Colin Kaepernick. I bet you call other people snowflakes.

  17. youngnoizecom says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    If the players made half the customers furious, the NFL should rebrand and market itself to a different base. The faction of Americans who are fuirous about people standing up against police brutality and inconsistencies in criminal justice aren’t who this game is played for and don’t represent the people who play it.
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    What does watching football have to do with police brutality? kneeling during the national anthem was done on purpose to incite the fans. The players need to realize they will never get acceptance for their protest until they change the venue, like taking it to social media, where it belongs. To do it during the national anthem is spitting on the flag & in the faces of anyone who sacrificed their lives for our country in the military.

  18. What I find funny is, the owners actually look sensible (for the most part) and like the good guys trying to end the negativity, while the players just were just more worried about getting what they want (which seems more like Kaepernick a job at this point) so they can use it as a victory. It looks all for show, for the players. The kneeling went from “police brutality and social injustice” to “get Kaepernick a job” from the players perspective. At least that is what it seems. They are more worried about trying to force people into their hard left stance than come to a compromise, because of public perception. It’s has been and always was about THEM. It’s a dog and pony show and the fact that they caved for MONEY proves it. I honestly respect Reid more because he still took a stand for at least what HE BELIEVES, and didn’t cave for the almighty dollar and try to declare victory publicly.

  19. You guys are halarious……always the “go to” “healthy skepticism” narratives.

    Meanwhile the clock keeps on ticking

  20. I like how people believe that Kraft and the Patriots are full of liberals, when its well known they sided with Trump. Also, Mueller and Comey are Republicans.

  21. In a country mixed with different ethnicities and races is it possible that certain things will be done differently. You can choose whatever religion, spouse, food, living location you want but not the way you honor a flag which most Americans don’t even have in their house or in front of it. Most people are offended and are standing their ground regardless if it means others have no ground to stand on. Everybody should remind themselves what that flag represents to this country and not what it means to them. The flag represents “FREEDOM”. Most people aren’t even real patriots anymore. It’s sad.

  22. A sure way to engender distrust in someone sitting across the table from you in tough negotiation is to leak the contents of that conversation. The person(s) responsible for this leak obviously do not hold their negotiating adversary in any real regard; what the leaker wants is to involve the general public. In other words, it is a complete political move. I find it hard to understand why the owners would want to leak this meeting, even though I think they do come off as having legitimate interest in striking some sort of compromise with the players. If it is the players who did the leaking, then I submit that this is promo facie evidence of the deleterious effects of CTE. They look ridiculous.

  23. As a Cowboys fan, I believe I’m going to root for the Patriots and Eagles from now on.

  24. The kneeling is a protest about police brutality. Not against the military. Stop trying to make it into something it isn’t.

    The whole reason Kaepernick started to kneel instead of sitting was because he met with MILITARY VETERANS who told him kneeling would be more respectful. But I don’t hear anybody criticizing them.

  25. just keep them in the locker room during the anthem next time. In high school, that’s what we did as players and we won a state championship (i.e, you can focus on the game, you don’t have to worry about ludicrous distractions).

  26. ab420420 says:

    April 25, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    Kaepernick’s case just got a boost

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    Actually it did the EXACT opposite; what did you read?

  27. bigblue00 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    News like this makes me proud to have cancelled cable tv, and dissolved the fantasy league I’ve run for the last 15 years. Back to watching local games over the public air ways and gladly kicking the NFL and it’s sponsers out of my wallet as much as possible.
    ___________________________

    As a Giants fan, I am glad to hear that we have at least one less fair weather fan now. Thank you for showing your true colors.

  28. factschecker says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:26 pm
    Unfortunately those that choose not to believe this won’t believe it. A great tool such as the internet has been weaponized so people can choose their won facts. Society is a shared system of truths. If we can no longer agree what a 20 dollar bill is worth then it becomes worthless.

    ————

    We can’t even agree what a male or female are any more….

  29. bbb82 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    The kneeling is a protest about police brutality. Not against the military. Stop trying to make it into something it isn’t.

    —————

    Actually you are making it into something it isn’t. Kaep’s kneeling was all about Kaep’s inability to beat out Blaine Gabbert as the starting QB. That is all it was ever about to Kaep.

  30. I assume nobody will investigate the NYT to see who at the paper paid someone to make the “secret recording.” Also, probably no investigation into why they sat on the story until the day before the draft. I am sure there is no media collusion into the timing of these non err…these “stories”.

  31. harrisonhits2 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:27 pm
    “Kraft blames Trump for it?”

    Irregardless what Kraft said, when you have a 5 time draft dodger who doesn’t even know the words for the anthem, he has no right to criticize the players, especially for personal political gain which in no way benefits the country. Trump has zero respect for the flag, military or for that matter the country except as an ATM for the 1%

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    Perhaps the 1% are tired of being an ATM for the bottom feeding parasites of this country who contribute $0 in tax yet continually ask for more and more.

  32. You fellas need to ask your compadres, fellas, stop that other business, let’s go out and do something that really produces positive results, and we’ll help you,”

    …So, the owners offered to get organized and do someothing more helpful than knealing, but the players decided, nah, we dont want to actually do something, we just want to be seen knealing on TV becaue it gets us in the headlines. Makes a lot of sense.

  33. That’s all the once-venerated NY Times is good for: Publishing these unethically acquired tapes in an effort to further villainize the “greedy rich white man”. Heaven forbid they actually do some real reporting, that’d be too much work.

  34. Kind of funny to read articles and articles aboout internet companies being chastized about private data being used or stolen for nefarious purposes that actually don’t accomplish anything but then the same guys doing the chastizing go out and steal private information and brazenly publish it for profit. I guess you can have your cake and eat it too.

  35. What these owners are saying:

    It is ok for the players to speak/protest by kneeling during the national anthem….but anyone, including the President cannot say anything negative about their actions. Very hypocritical of those owners.

    Speaking of kneeling, protests, etc….how have the players faired during this off season in furthering their cause? Figure they have more than enough time since it’s the offseason.

    Only NFL stories I’ve seen are: beating up women and DUI’s. Fact.

  36. ab420420 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:45 pm
    Kaepernick’s case just got a boost
    ——————-

    With who? The league cant ‘hire’ him as its not the league that hires players. And they have no power to direct a team to hire him. And even if some owners would love to see him get picked up if that will silence things, every one of them is hoping ‘some other team’ is who does it. None if them want him in their own organization. And so despite anything that was said, as of today, quite some time after that meeting, no one has made the move. They are all still looking at ‘somebody else’.

  37. The National Protest league had a whole season to remove the anti-America garbage from their product. They failed to do so and their ratings are going the way of the Oscars. Why an outsider has to come in and tell these billionaires’ that using the flag and anthem as a doggy potty training tool by your employees is a bad business decision, is pretty sad. America waits for its’ apology.

  38. It’s amazing that these clowns became billionaires. This is an easy situation to fix. Create a rule that all players stand for the national anthem or face heavy fines. In return for following the new rules, the NFL will make weekly/monthly contributions to a nonprofit charity started by the NFLPA to address racial inequality issues. That way the bad PR issues go away and players get funding for their SJW initiatives. Win-Win.

  39. The issue has never been whether players can or should speak out regarding issues that they care about. Rather, its about how and when. Protesting the national anthem at the start of football games is the wrong how and when because (1) it alienates those who view it as too broad a protest, and (2) it accomplishes absolutely nothing tangible.

    Kaepernick would rather thumb his nose at everyone than work toward any positive change. That’s why he’s unemployed (well, that and the fact that he’s not a good enough player to get away with his nonsense).

  40. vicnocal says:
    April 25, 2018 at 3:40 pm
    That’s all the once-venerated NY Times is good for: Publishing these unethically acquired tapes in an effort to further villainize the “greedy rich white man”. Heaven forbid they actually do some real reporting, that’d be too much work.
    ———————
    If this was the DNC they would be suing everyone in sight over those tapes getting out.

  41. The article didn’t say where this meeting was held, but if it was in Orlando, Florida, then the recording – if made without the consent of all parties – was illegal.

  42. patriots have been the class of the league thanks to the integrity of kraft and belichick. it shows when some snake with an agenda makes a secret recording.

  43. i hope someone signs this punk & then everyone can shut up & realize he is a horrible quarterback.

  44. Over a year later and many of you are still trying to change this story to fit your own personal narrative.

    Kaepernick’s protest never had anything to do with the flag. The NFL didn’t lose a bunch of money or viewers because of people being mad at those protests. The truth is that cable cost too much and millions of people have started cord cutting.

    All of those stories where people got mad and vowed off the NFL are purely anecdotal. There’s no way to verify those stories and when it did happen, it involved individuals and not large swaths of people.

  45. “The article didn’t say where this meeting was held, but if it was in Orlando, Florida, then the recording – if made without the consent of all parties – was illegal.”

    Thank you for your interesting insight into the content of the recordings.

    And the First Amendment probably disagrees with you in this particular case.

  46. The people who object to Kapernick’s kneeling seem to feel that he is somehow disrespecting the military (at least trump does) but I never thought that the flag was the exclusive symbol of the military. I’ve always thought that the flag represents the idea of America, where the founding principle was “all men (& women) are equal, etc., entitled to equal protection.
    Rather than being disrespectful, I think Kapernick’s protest represents the highest ideals of America.
    And I, for one, deeply resent the jackboot redneck crowd claiming both the game of football and that the flag as their symbol of racism for their own. I thought that’s what the stars and bars was?

  47. All of this stuff is so hilarious. Neither side had any kahunas. The fact is Kaepernick had opportunities to sign early last pre-season but his salary demands early, and his racist girlfriend later, ended those opportunities. Maybe if Kaepernick actually stepped to a microphone and talked about everything he’d have a chance, but this cloak and dagger stuff is comedy gold!

  48. And none of them understand this it isn’t about the player’s fraudulent victim complex, or the owners adversion to bad press, or th President’s tweets. It’s about their FAN BASE disliking the fact that players who have benefitted to the tune of millions by working in this country were protesting our nation’s anthem. The players overplayed their hand, and the owners are isolated and clueless. And while they bicker in closed door meetings, rating will continue to drop because the fans don’t want it or need it. There are entertainment alternatives. Baseball learned it the hard way, football is determined to learn the hard way too.

  49. yaz67 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    Kraft has overseen an organization that cheats on a regular basis. For him to be some sort of moral compass is outrageous.
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    Trolls gotta troll and get off on the “likes” – How it is that Kraft is presenting himself as a “moral compass”? When he says something in support of Trump the same haters attack him for that. How about oversees an organization that wins on a regular basis. I’m proud of him for standing up to Trump, his friend. Demonstrates strength and conviction in what he believes.

  50. “The article didn’t say where this meeting was held, but if it was in Orlando, Florida, then the recording – if made without the consent of all parties – was illegal.”

    Thank you for your interesting insight into the content of the recordings.

    And the First Amendment probably disagrees with you in this particular case.

    ____

    No, it wouldn’t. If it had been in Florida (it may have been in NY), it would run afoul of state wiretapping laws that require “two party consent” (meaning all parties) in order for one private citizen to audio record another. As we’re talking about the actions of private citizens, not “the State,” the First Amendment does not apply.

  51. absolutevisuals says:
    April 25, 2018 at 5:27 pm
    “The NFL’s actual customers were upset over this from Kneel #1.”

    So are you saying that those that supported the kneel aren’t actual NFL customers?
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    Although I myself also had no issue with the protest, it was obvious the the negative response far outweighed the positive.

  52. People seem to totally forget the original stated purpose for Kapernick kneeling after Trumps rhetoric about disrespecting the flag seemed to catch on with people as a reason to detest the kneeling and conveniently disregard the issues attributing to the players keeling in the first place. The same people that are outraged over the kneeling are the same people that say things like racism doesn’t exist.

    Kraft knows what he is talking about.

  53. zeke2517 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    “The article didn’t say where this meeting was held, but if it was in Orlando, Florida, then the recording – if made without the consent of all parties – was illegal.”

    Thank you for your interesting insight into the content of the recordings.

    And the First Amendment probably disagrees with you in this particular case.

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    If you check the first amendmant is about freedom of speech, I dont think there is an amendment that covers right to wiretap.

  54. No company can afford to be seen as supporting Trump, unless they sell guns or overpriced gold coins to the elderly. The NFL wants to stay in business.

  55. I hate being stuck in a small town. Sports (especially the NFL) are my outlet. I’m just going to enjoy the games no matter what other ancillary stuff is going on. Social justice warriors are losers so I won’t let them rob me of my joy.

  56. Wow. Can’t wait for the vault of trust in place for the next CBA negotiations.

    Maybe the Jets can recommend the same crew they hired to sweep the visiting locker room at Gillette Stadium for bugs, to sweep the conference room at 345 Park Ave. I’d also suggest a pat down for all attendees. Trust but verify.

  57. If the players made half the customers furious, the NFL should rebrand and market itself to a different base. The faction of Americans who are fuirous about people standing up against police brutality and inconsistencies in criminal justice aren’t who this game is played for and don’t represent the people who play it.
    Unfortunately you’re forgetting that most of those upset with the kneeling Are the people who Buy the PSL’s and all the tickets! The people of whom you speak, Barely know what football is, let alone buy a ticket!

  58. redclaw1314 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    Kraft should walk the walk and give Kaepernick a job (if that is how he really feels)

    ———
    As a QB Kaep stinks. That is the only reason he doesn’t have a job.

  59. kinggw says:
    April 25, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    Over a year later and many of you are still trying to change this story to fit your own personal narrative.

    Kaepernick’s protest never had anything to do with the flag.

    ————

    You are correct. it had to do with being benched for Blaine Gabbert

  60. kindbass says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    bigblue00 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    News like this makes me proud to have cancelled cable tv, and dissolved the fantasy league I’ve run for the last 15 years. Back to watching local games over the public air ways and gladly kicking the NFL and it’s sponsers out of my wallet as much as possible.
    ——————————————–
    And yet you still visit NFL news sites and click and leave comments. Imagine cancelling your cable and dissolving your 15-year fantasy league because of Colin Kaepernick. I bet you call other people snowflakes.
    ————————————————
    I never said anything about Kaepernick. Sure, he’s an overrated quarterback moonlighting as an “activist” who solves “problems”, but you’re fooling yourself if you really believe he’s the sole reason for my decisions.

  61. bkinacti0n says:
    April 25, 2018 at 2:50 pm
    bigblue00 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    News like this makes me proud to have cancelled cable tv, and dissolved the fantasy league I’ve run for the last 15 years. Back to watching local games over the public air ways and gladly kicking the NFL and it’s sponsers out of my wallet as much as possible.
    ___________________________

    As a Giants fan, I am glad to hear that we have at least one less fair weather fan now. Thank you for showing your true colors.
    ——————————-
    If fair weather means dodging ice balls vs the chargers, then fine. Its a softer game played with a softer mentality today anyway. Apparently the fans are getting soft too.

  62. The New York Times used to be the standard for the US — now pretty much WaPo. The Times seems to be determined to bring down our government — every leak, every hit on America sends shivers of delight up the legs of the editors there.

    They know, just as the owners know, just as the fans who stay away know that the “protests” by millionaire kids playing a game are not against some made-up “cause” but are pure hatred for America — to get votes for a political party. A football experience is maybe four hours long — if the protest were not disgust with our flag and anthem, the rich kids would have “protested” at half time or outside the stadium — instead of during the 60 seconds we honor our country.

    Thanks for the cherry picked stolen recordings of a meeting of owners — which “prove” they agree with the hatred toward the President and country — which is really HATRED toward the delorable VOTERS who also are / were football fans.

  63. It’s not a question of freedom of speech. It’s a question of when is the right time to excercise that fredom.

    Knowbody should be able use work to push their own political views (regardless of right or wrong), especially if the view is likely to tweak some of the customers. It’s just bad business.

    Do it on your own time. You’re famous, you have a stage outside of the field. Say or do whatever you want. That’s your right. Simple.

    The discussions around kneeling have proven to be far more misguided, annoying and offensive then the actual act of kneeling itself. Both sides are actually wrong. Only in the NFL.

  64. “As we’re talking about the actions of private citizens, not “the State,” the First Amendment does not apply.”

    We are talking about a news outlet releasing audio that they did or record. The First Amendment totally applies.

  65. Kaep doesn’t have a job because he lost out to Gabbert, not because of the protests. It seems like to much of a coincidence that he started these protests as he was losing his starting job, to a much cheaper player, and thus making him expendable. How many offenses out there would utilize him like Harbaugh did? Maybe the next college HC hot shot that comes to the NFL would, but I doubt it.

  66. kinggw says:
    April 25, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    Over a year later and many of you are still trying to change this story to fit your own personal narrative.

    Kaepernick’s protest never had anything to do with the flag.

    You’re right. It had to do with the fact he couldn’t beat out Blaine freaking Gabbert, easily one of the big QB in the past 10-15 years

  67. James Jackson says:
    April 25, 2018 at 5:54 pm
    People seem to totally forget the original stated purpose for Kapernick kneeling after Trumps rhetoric about disrespecting the flag seemed to catch on with people as a reason to detest the kneeling and conveniently disregard the issues attributing to the players keeling in the first place. The same people that are outraged over the kneeling are the same people that say things like racism doesn’t exist.

    Kraft knows what he is talking about.
    ——————————————————

    Exactly. Trump and his drones at Fox News have changed the narrative to make it about “disrespecting the flag & veterans”. The protests are about police brutality – but some people (in charge of propaganda) shout enough and change the focus. And all of the “rich players getting paid to play a game” is just veiled racism. Unfortunately that’s an easy button to push in this country and look how effective it’s been.

    We are free in this country. The players are protesting peacefully. This is an admirable demonstration of one of the key tenets of democracy. The USA is NOT perfect and never will be. There are plenty of people who experience racial oppression every day. To delude yourself into believing that America has no room for improvement is just an ignorant fantasy.

    Hell, Trump’s MAGA slogan is saying that America isn’t great – so he should just get out, too, right?

    When you’re protesting peoples’ right to protest you’re on the wrong side of freedom and democracy.

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