Report: Hue Jackson “out of the loop” on quarterback decision

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On the day before the draft, the air is full of reports that the Browns are considering this guy or that guy, or cooling on some other guy.

But it simply doesn’t make sense that General Manager John Dorsey hasn’t arrived at a decision yet, as long as he’s been working on what is the single most important part of his team-building job.

What’s interesting is who he’s sharing that information with, which seems to be no one.

According to Robert Klemko of SI.com, Browns coach Hue Jackson is “out of the loop” on Dorsey’s decision.

Jackson has certainly given his input into the quarterback evaluations, and Dorsey would be wise to consider it. Jackson has done good work with quarterbacks in the past, and that reputation is a large part of the reason the Browns hired him. But after posting a 1-31 record in his first two years, Dorsey is also wise not to lash his future to Jackson’s.

From a practical standpoint, reducing the number of people who know the identity of the pick also reduces the likelihood of that information making its way to the general public via a member of the media. People talk, but if people don’t know what they’re talking about, it can’t hurt Dorsey’s position.

Now, whether there’s an advantage in keeping that knowledge secret is another question. The Browns can take whoever they want without another team preventing them from it, the reward for their ineptitude on the field. But it’s also the biggest call Dorsey will make, and it appears he’s content keeping it to himself for the moment.

49 responses to “Report: Hue Jackson “out of the loop” on quarterback decision

  1. Actually, as a Jets fan who would like to draft Mayfield, if Dorsey wants Josh Allen then he’s a genius for leaking that they haven’t ruled out Mayfield. They could squeeze the Jets to make an offer to move to 1, and they’d still get Allen at 3.

  2. Ok so i get it GM has final say in all but a few cases.. but “no say in it” is a very bad sign, and Dorsey is not that type of guy to not seek input, so odds are Hue Jackson is mad as he landed on a guy that management and elevators don’t like at number one.. and now is publicly saying he has no input so if the pick doesn’t turn out hes going to try to say they should have listened to him while he searches for a new job

  3. Ken Ballard made this same observation about Dorsey: that he holds his cards close to the vest. Ballard said that Dorsey listens carefully, but makes his own decision, and won’t share his decision with anyone prior to making it public.

  4. I said it before, and ill say it again. If you dont know by now who you want out of the top 3 QB’s, the correct choice is to select Barkley #1 overall and let the Giants and Jets thin the heard for you.

    Unless they are trying to trade the pick…

  5. When Silva and Norris know why, it can’t be much of a secret. MKC and Mike Silver have been known to be his mouthpiece.

    Hue Jackson, the 1-31 coach of the #Browns, has multiple mouthpieces in the media & can’t be trusted by his own GM. You can’t make this stuff up.

    I believe this is what we can take from the uncertainty at No. 1. John Dorsey is good at keeping a secret. And Hue Jackson doesn’t know, because typically when Hue knows, the media soon knows.

  6. Is it possible that the fact we know Jackson is out of the loop means it’s a good thing he’s left out of the loop? Loose lips sink ships.

  7. Out of the Loop and after this season Out of the Building.

    Cleveland is trying to rectify its roster to attract better Head Coach prospects.

  8. With this new FO the Brown’s dysfunction will stop – The whole world

    Hold me beer – The new Browns FO

  9. “From a practical standpoint, reducing the number of people who know the identity of the pick also reduces the likelihood of that information making its way to the general public via a member of the media.”

    In other words ‘Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead.”

  10. Everyone has a story don’t they? No one knows what is going on inside that organization, or any other. I am confident that Hue as the coach has been consulted on the decision. Everyone has “a source” and everyone is a “close friend of the organization.” And then the truth comes out or it doesn’t.

  11. If you believe Klemko’s list, then NOBODY knows who Dorsey will pick, except Dorsey. Even Hue said a couple weeks ago that when Dorsey goes dark, he goes dark. Of course he got input from everyone, including Hue, but out of the loop here simply means Dorsey has made a choice, (we assume), and he hasn’t told ANYONE what that choice is. It’s silly season, no one knows anything. Including Klemko. Geez, this is a non-issue. X

  12. It would seem that since the Browns saw fit to retain Hue Jackson after going 1-31 in his first two seasons, that he would naturally have some input into a possible QB selection for his team? I mean, if you don’t value the opinion of your HC, and maybe don’t trust him to maintain silence about your draft strategy, then why is he still your HC, especially given his W-L record thus far?

  13. The only reason for the Browns to keep the pick secret is that they are trying to trade the pick. (They know that the guy they want will be there at 2, 3 or, 4 or wherever they trade down to).

  14. steelerdeathstar says:
    April 25, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    It would seem that since the Browns saw fit to retain Hue Jackson after going 1-31 in his first two seasons, that he would naturally have some input into a possible QB selection for his team? I mean, if you don’t value the opinion of your HC, and maybe don’t trust him to maintain silence about your draft strategy, then why is he still your HC, especially given his W-L record thus far?

    The owner wants him. Dorsey and Hue both report to the owner. After this draft, Dorsey will realize how dysfunctional the organization is lead by the owner. The owner leaks like a sieve too.

  15. petersjeffrey36 says:
    April 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm
    Ok so i get it GM has final say in all but a few cases.. but “no say in it” is a very bad sign, and Dorsey is not that type of guy to not seek input, so odds are Hue Jackson is mad as he landed on a guy that management and elevators don’t like at number one.. and now is publicly saying he has no input so if the pick doesn’t turn out hes going to try to say they should have listened to him while he searches for a new job
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    +1, +1, +1…

  16. @ petersjeffrey36

    “so if the pick doesn’t turn out hes going to try to say they should have listened to him”

    Awww, so he’s pin-pointed the next Cody Kessler. Always, trust Hue!

  17. Now that we’re on the verge of the draft and trades have shaken up the picture at the top, I’ll trot out my earlier suggestion that the Browns take Mayfield #1 and Nelson #4.

    That’s been completely not the trend in predictions and discussion, but it’s what my gut says is the best way for the Browns to become a better team quickly.

  18. “That is the way it should be in helping expedite his “being out the door” as the HC in Cleveland.
    Why tell the worst HC in the NFL what’s going on?”

    You guys haven’t paid attention. The Browns were 41 million under the cap in 2016 and a whopping 63 million under the cap in 2017. The top 24 teams last season were 12 million or less under that cap. That’s a 51 million dollar gap in personnel budget. No coach could have fielded a competitive team under those circumstances.

    The problem is not Jackson, the problem is the scam artist owner who has been laughing all the way to the bank while conning Cleveland fans.

  19. Cap spend has nothing to do with him being the worst. At the NFL level of talent, even the worst guy is one of the best guys ever. You have to be supremely incompetent to go 1-31. Combine that with what he did in OAK – he’s the worst HC in the league right now.

  20. I bet Todd Haley has been in the loop regarding the QB decision. It’s clear to me that Dorsey is going to give Haley another shot at being a head coach. Hue has to knock it out of the park before the hiatus otherwise Haley takes over.

  21. Browns will open the season 0-4, Hue gets fired, Haley takes over and gets the team to 7-9 or 8-8. 2019, young QB coached up by a real QB Whisperer in the form of Haley, makes a serious run at the playoffs, while Hue runs his mouth on the NFL network while waiting for some D II college job to open up. Undeniably, the worst football coach in the history of the game. Worse than Rich Kotite.

  22. Shouldn’t matter to Hue who Dorsey drafts as his rookie QB. Both already have said that Taylor will be the starting QB for the season, while the rook sits and learns. By the time the rookie gets on the field, Hue Jackson should be long gone. C ya Hue!

  23. Considering the Browns draft position in the 1st round AND there being at least 6 other QB needy teams, Dorsey will secure some picks for next year. Maybe a pair of second rounders.

  24. It’s not a horrible idea to draft 2 QBs with #1 and #4. Given the low base-rate incidence of success, and the importance of finding a good QB for your franchise, picking two is justifiable. And besides, it also prevents one other team from landing a top QB pick. And maybe you can trade the one you don’t want, a few years later.

  25. Can anyone blame Browns ownership and John Dorsey for keeping Hue Jackson out of the draft decision loop. Everyone knows that he’s never meet a microphone that he didn’t like and has diarrhea of the mouth! This was his problem in Oakland, he just talks entirely too much, when he shouldn’t!

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