Pete Carroll on players tuning him out: “The best thing I can tell you is that they’re not here”

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The Seattle Seahawks certainly elected to shake up the status quo this offseason with the massive changes seen to their roster and coaching staff since the end of the 2017 campaign.

A third of the coaching staff was replaced and key veterans like Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett are no longer with the team. The team has mashed the reset button as they look to freshen things up for a team that missed the playoffs for the first time since 2011 last year.

Head coach Pete Carroll responded to comments made by Sherman and Bennett indicating that Carroll’s message had gotten stale over the years and they had tuned him out during meetings.

“The thing I would tell you about that is that we’ve been through a lot around here, we’ve grown tremendously together and all of that, and changes are inevitable,” Carroll said. “Sometimes, guys can’t hang with what’s expected for one reason or another, their growth, their development and all of that, and the best thing I can tell you is that they’re not here.”

It was a similar stance in 2010 when Carroll and General Manager John Schneider took over the franchise. The team made nearly 300 roster moves in 2010 as they searched for players that bought into their message and fit their mold. If a player didn’t buy in, he wasn’t there long.

Sherman said veterans had “kind of heard every story, every funny anecdote” that Carroll told. After Sherman blew up on the sidelines at coaches in 2016, Carroll had a team meeting to try to get the train back on the tracks only to have Sherman mostly dismiss the substance of the chat.

“Just talked about the mood of the team, guys coming together. We have a kumbaya meeting just about every year. Just the same thing,” he said at the time.”

Carroll said Bennett never brought a book to any of their team meetings. However, he said in an interview with Sports Radio 950 KJR last week that he couldn’t rule out Bennett reading a digital book on his phone or tablet instead.

The bottom line remains that Carroll wanted to rein in some control of his roster. Bennett and Sherman were among the longest-tenured players on the roster and had status in the locker room. If they were no longer onboard, it would make it difficult for Carroll to keep others pulling in the same direction.

Bennett and Sherman are no longer with the team and Carroll and Schneider look to reconstruct the roster again with a new group of disciples that are more currently invested in the team’s vision and messaging.

31 responses to “Pete Carroll on players tuning him out: “The best thing I can tell you is that they’re not here”

  1. The message repeated ad nauseam or not brought a Superbowl and success. To behave like a leader, even though they knew the message. they should have supported it. I guess they were just All-Pro veterans but not leaders interested in jeeping that message going. ,

  2. Addition through subtraction sometimes works. We will see this and next season how effective it works. My guess is there is some more math computation to undertake.

  3. I get it to an extent that after so many years, you have heard just about everything. But after being around for as long as Sherman and Bennett, you gotta motivate yourself then, be leaders.

    Bennett reading something while in a meeting? That is no surprise. Both Bennett brothers are pretty much trash humans.

  4. Should have run it with Lynch. He lost the locker room when he lost that Super Bowl. It just took a little while to catch up.

  5. every team should send a message to these inmates that you either do your job, shut your mouth, and remember who your employer is, or you will be gone.
    Clark Hunt started Making The Game Great Again, buy kicking militant Marcus Peters off to the Rams. Now the Seahawks are towing the line along with Bob McNair. Remember who the Wardens are, and never let the players forget

  6. Sorry. People don’t tune u out because they have heard your stories. These guys did that because they started losing.
    Guys like Sherman show their true colors when they start to shine when things are not going well.
    Just his way of shifting blame.

  7. Kumbaya? – Deja Vu! Carroll in Hawks is similar to Carroll in NE, as I and I’m sure others warned on PFT. Carroll took Parcell’s AFC champs and over 3yrs walked them out of contention as he lost the locker with all his kumbaya. Before NE he walked the Jets below .500, and after NE he went from hero to total embarrassment with massive sanctions against USC.

    At Hawks he started bad but got lucky with Wilson & Lynch and for 2 yrs hit a sweet spot and an SB (thanks to Sherman tipping a Kaepernick pass for an int TD in the NFCCG). But college-style doesn’t work for long in the NFL and ol’ Kumbaya has been back-peddling ever since (and rule-breaking again – repeated violations on injury sheets and practice fields that should have accumulated into record fines but instead just got repeated wrist-slaps). And now he’s thrown a lot of his staff under the bus as he sings his kumbaya…

  8. Now I get why Pete Carroll HAD to move on from Sherman as amazing a player that he is. They should have made up. But what Richard Sherman needed from Carroll he did not get. The explanation that in Hindsight he made the wrong decision on THE PATRIOTS. Any other team, that play may have worked in the Super Bowl. As the play had not been intercepted all that year! But the extra homework had been done by Butler and the Patriots so it was a disaster. All he had to say was, I have learned my lesson in such moments and I feel the pain everyday. That would have restored the teams trust in crunch time with the coach. He also learned how MUCH some members of the team have invested in a Super Bowl run and win that is there for the taking. They trusted him completely up until Pete did not own that wrong decision. That is what this is all about at its core.

  9. I don’t like Pete. Nor do I like the people he got rid of. However, in this case I side with Pete. Remember, these players are supposed to be grown men, yet act like children. We all have bosses that are full of themselves and are probably much worse than Pete but we don’t have a choice. We either listen to him or get fired. In the Army you have plenty of people in charge of you that are full of it. You just get used to it and realize that’s the way it is. Sherman and Bennett are little more than spoiled brats who whine about anything and everything. Remember Sherman’s many temper tantrums on the sidelines? Sure, Pete is a joke but probably the reason they didn’t win more than one Super Bowl is because the “grown men” he was coaching decided they would rather act like immature brats than grown men.

  10. I hate the Seahawks with a passion. With that being said I would not count them out just yet. People have predicted their imminent demise for the last few years and yet with all the injuries they were still in the wildcard chase up until the last week of the season. Are they going to win the Super Bowl this year..probably not but let’s not count them out of the playoff chase.

  11. All that matters is Bevell is gone. 95% of this playbook was designed for a 6′-4″ QB with a solid 0-line and no scrambling ability. Hence the idiotic pass on the goal line in the Super Bowl. A 5’10” Qb, with his helmet on, should not be throwing a pass like that…too many things could go wrong. Anyway…hopefully Schottenheimer can create plays focused on Wilson’s strengths. Roll him out, naked bootlegs, lots of play action….draw up plays that are designed to get him out of the pocket and use his insane throwing on the run ability.

    It’s time for the offense to put up points to keep pace with LA and SF…an average defense is going to be good enough if you can put up 30+ pts a game. Wilson is something like 2-22 when the defense allows 24 or more pts. I think 23 pts per game is average…that’s ridiculous.

  12. It has become more clear why these guys are gone – despite IMO, having some gas left in the tank. Carroll is a ‘protect the team’ coach, and if you’re not all-in, you’re gone.

    Carroll may have repeated the same anecdotes (who doesn’t btw?) – but he also put both these players in a position to be successful, and the team made them rich enough to never have to worry about money again. And a SB win – which many great players never get to taste.

    Is it too much to expect just a little gratitude? So it goes . . .

  13. Bottom line is that when the team wins, Petey and Snide take credit. When the team loses, the assistant coaches and players who don’t listen are to blame. Out they go. We will see who is really at fault the next couple of seasons. If the team can win with new coaches and players, then Petey and Snide can take credit. If the team continues to slide then they are to blame.

  14. Bottom line, Pete came in and made 300 roster moves flipping everything not screwed to the floor. This brought Seattle to a Lombardi victory and a Lombardi loss. 28 other teams out there would take this in a heartbeat.

  15. The former competitive team never got over that SB giveaway. Carroll’s right in that “the team went through a lot of adversity”, and never more so than that loss. It’s like love, when your lover cheats on you, you never get over that, no matter how much you try to forgive them. It was good that Sherman gave a voice to the pain in the locker room after that loss, and the pain of the fan base for that SB giveaway too. Some things you don’t live down, or get over them, because the pain is too great. Good for Sherman and Bennett to leave. Their leaving does not diminish their contribution to the team and the city. It was a moment in time that is now gone.

  16. vikings1234 says:

    April 26, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    Best one year dynasty ever. It was awesome.

    ———————

    You must not follow the NFL too much. 4th in Total wins since 2010, back to back Super Bowl appearances, 5 year consecutive playoff streak…yeah…One year.

  17. pdway says:
    April 26, 2018 at 1:07 pm
    It has become more clear why these guys are gone – despite IMO, having some gas left in the tank. Carroll is a ‘protect the team’ coach, and if you’re not all-in, you’re gone.

    Carroll may have repeated the same anecdotes (who doesn’t btw?) – but he also put both these players in a position to be successful, and the team made them rich enough to never have to worry about money again. And a SB win – which many great players never get to taste.

    Is it too much to expect just a little gratitude? So it goes . . .
    ________________

    Hit the nail on the head with that one. Exactly right. Pete Carroll made richard sherman. Not the other way around. Mike B, he was good already, but by coming to Seattle with all the talent around him he did much better than he would have if he stayed in Tampa or went somewhere else.

    Its funny to me that the trolls try over and over to say Seattle is done, yet they were 9-7 last year with tons of injuries and no running game. Like if you repeat it to yourself enough it will come true. Good luck with that.

  18. Yeah ,,,like he said one year dynasty, yet you clowns still disrespect other teams that are actually a real dynasty,,,,,,

  19. Seattle may have the worst QB in the NFC West after Arizona drafted Josh Rosen from UCLA. Petey may not be in Seattle for long if his team finishes as the last place team in the division for a few years in a row.

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