Report: Eagles visit with Derrius Guice sparked “shouting match”

AP

Running back Derrius Guice slid to pick No. 59 for a variety of reasons. One specific problem arose from Guice’s team visits, which as Ian Rapoport of NFL Media said earlier in the hour on NFLN did not always go well.

As to the altercation that supposed happened during a visit with the Eagles, Rapoport reports that there was a “shouting match,” and that one unnamed source called it the worst meeting that team ever had with a player. (Oddly, Mike Mayock’s final mock draft had Guice going to the Eagles at No. 32; Mayock handles the in-booth analysis for Philly’s preseason games.)

Chatter continues regarding other incidents and rumors involving Guice, to the point where Washington is currently looking into some of the scuttlebutt. Some would say they should have done that before they put his name on the card. (Others would say, “What else do you expect from this specific franchise?”)

Here’s a prediction that one source shared with PFT prior to the draft. (I stay away from posting opinions from anonymous sources before the draft because of the very real incentive teams have to trash guys they secretly hope to draft at a lower spot. Now that Guice has been picked, that concern doesn’t apply.) Per the source, an executive from a team that had multiple chances to draft Guice and didn’t, it’s expected that unless he matures quickly Guice will have a couple of years of solid production before he wears out his welcome and ends up cut or traded.

Guice has the power to change that, and maybe his unexpected slide to No. 59 will be the catalyst. Multiple sources have told PFT that, as to his claim that he was asked during the Scouting Combine whether he likes men, Guice told conflicting stories to NFL investigators, preventing them from concluding that the question had been asked.

During a pre-draft visit to PFT Live, I pressed Guice on the question of whether it was a miscommunication, a misunderstanding, or something else. Guice chose to avoid the topic, other than to acknowledge that he had been interviewed three times by NFL Security.

Based on everything that has emerged regarding Guice, Washington’s relationship with Guice may involve more than a few sit-downs and heart-to-hearts in the coming weeks and months. Maybe the switch will flip; maybe he’ll mature.

If he does, Guice could have a long and fruitful career in the NFL. If he doesn’t, he’ll be one of the guys who inevitably is replaced by another draft pick in two or three years.

33 responses to “Report: Eagles visit with Derrius Guice sparked “shouting match”

  1. As a fan of the champions this is great couldn’t have went to a better team. Enjoy that short career. First as a running back he’s a complete idiot. Peterson’s offense style is great for running backs. Look at the back his first years in Philly then KC and now last year. Between him and Andy they can get running backs in space.

  2. Every personnel move we make is ridiculously over scrutinized … Derrius Guice at 59 was a steal.

    Welcome to the Redskins … hail!

  3. I can think of one game they had fun… followed that game with a parade that looked like fun.

  4. The reality is that with few exceptions, all running backs provide a few solid years of production and then wear out their welcome in one way or the other.

  5. This kid was an absolute great kid in college. Maybe the team that asked him the alleged question is the team he got in a shouting match with. He comes from absolutely nothing and was a model student and kid at LSU. His coaches and teammates loved him. The stuff that happens to these kids during the draft process for selfish reasons by these teams and sources is just bad. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  6. How do you get into an altercation in a million dollar job interview? SMH.

  7. What else do you expect from this specific franchise? Ask me about this pick in two to three years. Unless he is out of the league before September 1st then it was a wasted pick.

  8. Throwing snowballs at Santa, how could we ever forget about that?!?! Oh yea that’s right, it happened 50 years ago! Way to use a relevant reference. Sad state of affairs your life’s in when you have to reach a half century back.

  9. Love the people trashing a 20 year old kid for accusations he got I to an argument at a team meeting. What if they did ask if his mom was a prostitute, or something about his dad or if he’s gay? Should he just accept that kind of treatment? No one knows what happened for sure yet so you should reserve judgment. Everyone that went to school w him and coached him says he’s a great dude.

  10. rzcardinals says:
    April 28, 2018 at 12:18 pm
    In Philly it’s there way or no way. Every argument has 2 sides…can’t blame the player just yet
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    A player with character concerns got into a shouting match with an NFL team pre-draft. Don’t blame the player!

  11. Most immature men don’t just wake up and mature…..unless they become a father and realize their baby girl or boy are completly dependent on them. Even then a few never get ‘it’

  12. Somehow Redskins fans think they can make Eagles fans feel bad for the hard pass on one of the most drama-filled draft prospects of the class.

    They’re so conditioned by Dan Snyder’s mediocrity they can’t even think straight.

  13. jason yocum says:
    April 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Throwing snowballs at Santa, how could we ever forget about that?!?! Oh yea that’s right, it happened 50 years ago! Way to use a relevant reference. Sad state of affairs your life’s in when you have to reach a half century back.
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    While you’re busy clutching your pearls, perhaps a reminder that throwing snow balls at Santa is only one of many bad things Eagles fan does. NFCE opponents and others regularly get their team bus coated with eggs and beer, so much so that Sean Peyton once had a bulls eye painted on the Saints’ bus in ’14.

    While the Eagles’ in-stadium jail and court isn’t a thing anymore, it sure used to be in this century, so tap the brakes on the ancient history narrative.

  14. beachsidejames says:
    April 28, 2018 at 12:38 pm
    I can think of one game they had fun… followed that game with a parade that looked like fun.

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    You certainly can’t be talking about the Dolphins

  15. If you get into a shouting match in a job interview that could land you millions of dollars, you’re probably not that bright.

  16. He fell to 59. 59 is greater than 32. It appears it wasn’t only the Eagles that had problems/concerns with this guy. Oh, and he was the 5th RB picked. Only time will tell. Arguing about his career greatness or failure on draft day is ridiculous.

  17. OK, no way the Eagles asked him those questions. They have the most liberal owner in the NFL. This kid comes off as a punk. Perfect fit for the skins.

  18. Double standards! Josh Allen post racist tweets and he moves up in the draft, but his kid possibly lies and he slides. Forgive white player, but punish the black player! Derrius Guice ll a better career the inaccurate Josh Allen!

  19. they just don’t “have fun” in philly

    what a shame

    Boy, sure looked like they were having fun while beating the snot out of your Pats in the super bowl.

  20. At least he ended up in a locker room and organization that has little drama and is known to be stable and supportive of players like Kirk Cousins.

  21. And that’s how you slide from a 1st rd pick to a late 2nd. Not too mention how much money he lost out on dropping that far. I’ll guarantee you we hear about him in the news in a few years and not in a good light. He’s not only a liar but has a bad attitude too.
    You get out of life what you give to others. He’s a loser.

  22. jason yocum says:
    April 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Throwing snowballs at Santa, how could we ever forget about that?!?! Oh yea that’s right, it happened 50 years ago! Way to use a relevant reference. Sad state of affairs your life’s in when you have to reach a half century back.

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    @jason yocum……….

    Santa Claus may have been a while ago, but let’s see setting a fire, destroying property of others and covering the city with trash at the parade celebration was fairly recent wasn’t it???????? And not that long ago, Eagle fans jeering an opponents injured player that might have been paralyzed was real “classy”, right????

  23. spurtbball says:

    April 29, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    jason yocum says:
    April 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Throwing snowballs at Santa, how could we ever forget about that?!?! Oh yea that’s right, it happened 50 years ago! Way to use a relevant reference. Sad state of affairs your life’s in when you have to reach a half century back.

    *************************************************************************
    @jason yocum……….

    Santa Claus may have been a while ago, but let’s see setting a fire, destroying property of others and covering the city with trash at the parade celebration was fairly recent wasn’t it???????? And not that long ago, Eagle fans jeering an opponents injured player that might have been paralyzed was real “classy”, right????
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    Not that long ago? That was almost 25 years ago…you know, about how recently the Cowboys went to the Super Bowl??

    And nobody jeered Irvin getting injured. They cheered a hard hit. The same way people were cheering Jenkins hit in the Super Bowl. Fans in the stands cant do a medical evaluation every time someone gets jacked. You see a hard hit and it used to be a good thing.

    Philadelphia fans came in outside of the top 10 in arrests per game. Averaging less than 2.5. As far as I recall, no one has ever been shot, or stabbed, or injured at an Eagles game, like they do in California. Yet somehow, booing Santa in 1968, and cheering a hard hit make Eagles fans classless.

    Its an old argument. Im surprised I took the time to actually type this, because most of us don’t even care anymore. You cant defend an entire fanbase from people that are blatantly biased and ignorant.

  24. Maybe they talked down to him. Nobody no matter who, likes to get spoken to in a dismissive tone. Dude probably had met other 25 teams, was tired, Philly rep asked a sarcastic or smart alec question and Derrick let him have it . I dunno. Seems odd. No other teams had an issue…tells me is the Philly rep who’s probably a punk himself.

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