Mike McCarthy on drafting three WRs: Always looking for bigger targets

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The Packers said goodbye to a longtime member of their receiving corps this offseason when they released Jordy Nelson and there will be plenty of new blood vying for a chance to fill his snaps.

Green Bay added former Missouri wideout J’Mon Moore in the fourth round, former South Florida receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling in the fifth round and ex-Notre Damer Equanimeous St. Brown in the sixth round as they closed out the draft by repopulating the depth chart at wideout. Moore is the shortest of the three rookies at 6’3″ so they bring a different look to a group fronted by the shorter Davante Adams and Randall Cobb.

“I think you’re always looking for bigger targets,” McCarthy said, via the team’s website. “It makes sense, doesn’t it? Bigger catching radius, completion percentage. I think any quarterback would prefer to throw to a bigger target.”

We know Aaron Rodgers had a preference for throwing to Nelson when he was in Green Bay. It would be a lot to expect any rookie to come close to replicating that relationship, but any early sparks should lead to a leg up in the competition for playing time.

56 responses to “Mike McCarthy on drafting three WRs: Always looking for bigger targets

  1. Going to need a big target because the back ups can’t hit the broad side of the barn and the Packers don’t have a starting right tackle to start the season.

  2. As a Viking fan I was happy the pack picked Alexander with their number one. If they picked Ridley, Rodgers to Ridley would be heard every game. Atlanta’s offense is going to be scary with Jones on one side and Ridley on the other.

  3. riraider says:

    April 29, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    I must have missed something, What have the Vikings done? Ever?

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    You must have missed something, since no one knows what you are talking about.

  4. Take away their QB and the rest of the Packers’ roster is BOTTOM 5.

    They have wasted the best QB’s prime because they can’t put together a proper roster. “Sad.”

  5. I’m not sure any other team doubles and triples up on the same position in drafts like the Packers. I thought it was a Ted Thompson thing, but now Gutekunst does it in his first draft.

  6. Love it when Vikings fans call out other teams. What was it the Vikings ever won? Oh how silly of me its the off season. Vikings are annual champions at that. No other team ever makes good picks, only them.
    Win something before calling out others.

  7. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    McCarthy..”It makes sense doesn’t it?”

    Your the coach. Why wouldnt you know if it made sense or not?
    >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
    Parse words much?

  8. OK McCarthy, something better come together this time. As a so-to-speak NFL QB “”guru,” your credibility was nuked after misdiagnosing the extremely limited capabilities of Hundley. It should have cost you your job.

    Put up…….or shut up.

    — many, many Packer fans.

  9. The Green Bay draft strategy: use half your picks on a single position of need and eventually 1 will stick. After many many years they can fill about half the holes on their roster that way.

    What genius plotting! 😀

    Who will step up this year? WR1, WR2, or WR3? Just like RB last year.

    Which position will get 3 draft picks next year? I am surprised it was not CB. What a mess that position still is. I vote CB as their slight CBs will be on IR most of the year again this year.

  10. stellarperformance says:

    OK McCarthy, something better come together this time. As a so-to-speak NFL QB “”guru,” your credibility was nuked after misdiagnosing the extremely limited capabilities of Hundley. It should have cost you your job.

    Put up…….or shut up.

    — many, many Packer fans.

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    I just love Wisconsin in the spring. It’s getting warmer!

  11. we need to sigh dez for one year. none of these receivers wont see the field in about 2 years.

  12. Outside of Adams and Cobb, no one is safe, and most likely the Packers let Cobb walk at the end of his contract anyway.

  13. It’s not hard to understand..Cobb needs to prove himself or he’s gone…no other wr on the roster has proved they can do it consistently…two CBs makes perfect sense given how the secondary performed and that GB plays alot of nickle.. either way if they perform they look like geniuses, if they don’t well you know

  14. Two complimentary Pack posts in a row (better check for a fever) – the Pack had a great draft.

    But geez, what mother that truly loves her son would ever name him “Equanimeous”? Was she playing scrabble in the delivery room?

  15. Packers should of tried draft 5″11/205pd WR Christian Kirk whom AZ ended up drafting in early-mid RD-2. With Kirks 4.45 40 & long speed paired with his excellent precise very crisp route running elite hands/strength QB Aaron Rodgers and Kirk would of made for quite the pairing together, he would put up massive stats/numbers paired with Aaron Rodgers !!!! I think he is going to be in the Running for rookie of the year, he is just such a talented WR. Kirk is very comparable to Golden Tate in the NFL & will be a better version of Golden Tate I believe in the NFL & is lucky enough to get to learn from one of the top 3 WRs of All-Time in Larry Fitz.

  16. philcodean says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:40 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    McCarthy..”It makes sense doesn’t it?”

    Your the coach. Why wouldnt you know if it made sense or not?
    >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
    Parse words much?
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    I didn't parse anything. Those are his own words.
    I don't know why he asked that question. He's the coach. He should know what he's doing.
    It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like he is looking for approval.

  17. stellarperformance says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:41 pm
    OK McCarthy, something better come together this time. As a so-to-speak NFL QB “”guru,” your credibility was nuked after misdiagnosing the extremely limited capabilities of Hundley. It should have cost you your job.

    Put up…….or shut up.

    — many, many Packer fans.
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    Ohhh Snap!! Stella took the gloves off!

  18. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    April 29, 2018 at 8:10 pm
    philcodean says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:40 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    April 29, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    McCarthy..”It makes sense doesn’t it?”

    Your the coach. Why wouldnt you know if it made sense or not?
    >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
    Parse words much?
    ——————-
    I didn't parse anything. Those are his own words.
    I don't know why he asked that question. He's the coach. He should know what he's doing.
    It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like he is looking for approval.
    _____________________

    Please, you seriously aren’t this dumb?
    You honestly don’t understand when someone’s expressing a rhetorical question to make a statement.
    I shudder to think just how poor the Minnesota school systems have been failing you and your children.

  19. Jordy is somewhere on the West coast smiling right this moment, know it took 3 WRs to try and replace him and his production with main man 1 2

  20. I remember being sick to my stomach when Cobb decided to go back to the Packers. I thought the contract the Raiders were offering was too much. Figured they had to pay that much to get him out of Green Bay.

  21. For all the kool aid drinkers who think these 3 mopes will ever be pro bowlers, ponder the following information: Since 2000 there has been 327 wide receivers drafted in the 4th round or later. Only 7 have ever made a significant impact in the NFL. That’s 2.1%. It’s very unlikely that these 3 picks will ever amount to much. That goes for Trevor Davis, Geronimo Allison, Michael Clark, and DeAngelo Yancey as well.

    Ron Wolf said his greatest regret was not getting Favre enough weapons to work with. It looks like the TT/Gute era is making the same mistakes.

  22. So, the Packers miss the playoffs for in 8 or 9 years a an injury occurs and McCarthy should be canned? I disagree and feel he has earned another season, but even if he didn’t, who would the Packers hire that is available as a coach that is BETTER than McCarthy right now?

  23. It seems obvious that Gutie had two things in mind with this draft, coverage help and a revamp the special teams.

    I expect one of these three to spend 2018 replacing Jeff Janis in the gunner role.

    4 wide at the goal-line with Davanta, Graham, Clark and one of these guys poses lots of matchup issues.

  24. I should copyright the phrase “I’m a highly successful NFL coach”. At least then I can make a few bucks off of our dumb coach. He should’ve been the 1st to go.

  25. It makes sense now after Erin threw his receivers under the Bus, then cut Jordy. After all with 3 receivers drafted, they about HAVE to get lucky. You Packer fans are in for a horrible next couple of years while they try to rebuild.
    Is this the new Packer style of Drafting? You are due for a uniform change, since there will be cleat marks on the backs anyway!
    Pitiful, I’m having SO much fun watching you guys try and find ANYTHING positive about your picks.. HA, HA, HA…

  26. It’s worth remembering Rodgers said during the training camp of Adams’ rookie season that he would be a star. In year two, Adams dropped enough passes that he made Rodgers look foolish, but in the end 12 has been proven correct. It will be worth noting what Rodgers has to say about his new receivers.

  27. Easy to forget I guess, but the Packers live and die by their ability to maximize Aaron Rodgers. Arming him with a compliment of big targets (Jimmy Graham too) is the quickest ticket back to the postseason. I wouldn’t be so quick to celebrate their demise.

  28. hawaiifunfnull says:
    “It’s worth remembering rodgers said during the training camp of adams’ rookie season that he would be a star.”

    aaron didn’t mean that. Everybody knows how quirky & a jokester he can be.

  29. hawaiifunfnull says:

    It’s worth remembering Rodgers said during the training camp of Adams’ rookie season that he would be a star. In year two, Adams dropped enough passes that he made Rodgers look foolish, but in the end 12 has been proven correct. It will be worth noting what Rodgers has to say about his new receivers.
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    You use the term “STAR” rather loosely.

    2017 was Adams best year “statistically” as compared to other NFL WR’s. He was 19th in receptions, 23rd in yards and 144th in yards per catch.

    Yeah, I know, he only had Rodgers tossing him the ball for about half the season last year.

    But that worked out to his advantage – as Hundley seemed to be able to only find Adams on the field. Adams averaged 57 yards per game with Rodgers and 70 yards per game with Hundley.

    And it’s worth noting that Adams had his best games in either losses or against horrible competition.

    Examples – best game was against the Ravens where the Packers lost 23 – 0 – yet Adams had 8 catches for 126 yards. He also had a good game against the Browns when he had 10 catches for 84 yards.

    So lets go back to 2016, what did Adams do when Rodgers was tossing the rock in all 16 games? Adams was 28th in receptions, 26th in yards and 114th in yards per catch.

    Adams is the best current WR on the Packers. That does not mean he is a “STAR” in the NFL.

  30. who would the Packers hire that is available as a coach that is BETTER than McCarthy right now?
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    ANYBODY is a better option than a guy proven to be coming up short.

  31. Ron Wolf said his greatest regret was not getting Favre enough weapons to work with. It looks like the TT/Gute era is making the same mistakes.
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    Please.

    The WR corps was as big a reason as any why the 2010 team won the Super Bowl.

    Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Driver, Finley..

    Then they added Cobb in 2011, Rodgers had the most efficient season any QB has ever had, and they would have repeated if not for a defense that was equally historic… just not the kind of history you want to make.

  32. I don’t know why he asked that question. He’s the coach. He should know what he’s doing.
    It doesn’t sound like it. It sounds like he is looking for approval.
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    He’s great.

    Just ask him…………………….

  33. Yes, the gloom and doom Barney trolls are back in full force for another round of inane and simpleminded observations.
    After every NFL news cycle they rear their ugly heads.
    With their constant predictions of luck running out, windows closing and forecasting general chaos, you’ve finally proved yourself correct after the Pack posted a 7-9 season when they lost their future Hall of Fame QB.
    Just their 3rd losing season in the last 26 seasons.

    I’m sorry to have to tell you this, but Green Bay is not in a full rebuild.
    It’s just a retooling of the front office and coaching staff.
    They still have the same solid roster that has tormented your team for years.

    I realize most of your paranoid rants are just the effects from years of on the field abuse.
    I hate to break the news to you, but Green Bay is as good as they’ve ever been and nothing’s changing anytime soon.

  34. wafflestomp says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:51 am

    Green Bay is as good as they’ve ever been and nothing’s changing anytime soon.
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    “You are what your record says you are” — Bill Parcells

  35. wafflestomp says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:51 am
    Yes, the gloom and doom Barney trolls are back in full force for another round of inane and simpleminded observations.
    After every NFL news cycle they rear their ugly heads.
    With their constant predictions of luck running out, windows closing and forecasting general chaos, you’ve finally proved yourself correct after the Pack posted a 7-9 season when they lost their future Hall of Fame QB.
    Just their 3rd losing season in the last 26 seasons.

    I’m sorry to have to tell you this, but Green Bay is not in a full rebuild.
    It’s just a retooling of the front office and coaching staff.
    They still have the same solid roster that has tormented your team for years.

    I realize most of your paranoid rants are just the effects from years of on the field abuse.
    I hate to break the news to you, but Green Bay is as good as they’ve ever been and nothing’s changing anytime soon.

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    Then they need to prove it this year, good as they have ever been? Hard to say right now because its the off season. No draftee is a guaranteed blue chipper and the Pack had a pretty good draft IMHO. They addressed needs in the secondary, but that secondary will go through growing pains too. Its not an instant fix and very few DBs /CBs come right in at the pro level and dominate, not saying it can’t happen but it is very rare.

    Hate to break the news to you, but McCarthy is on the hot seat as well which will add extra pressure on him to get the job done. This year is NOT about man main 1 2 coming back and lobbing it all over the field, it will be how the Packers D can control the game and the chemistry within the unit to protect a lead. I kinda laugh when they talk about so and so has X number of comebacks in the 4th quarter. When in essence if the defense is to their job your QB like Stafford doesn’t lead the league in 4th quarter comebacks. While neat and sexy as it is, it is the flaw of the defense for putting the offense in that position late in the game.

  36. leroysbutler says:
    April 29, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    For all the kool aid drinkers who think these 3 mopes will ever be pro bowlers, ponder the following information: Since 2000 there has been 327 wide receivers drafted in the 4th round or later. Only 7 have ever made a significant impact in the NFL.
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    That is so inaccurate I shouldn’t even bother responding, but consider the following receivers who are making a significant impact right now or have earlier in their careers:

    Antonio Brown (6th round)
    Tyreek Hill (5th round)
    Marvin Jones (5th round)
    Adam Thielen (undrafted)
    Stefon Diggs (5th round)
    Doug Baldwin (undrafted)
    Robby Anderson (undrafted)
    Chris Hogan (undrafted)
    Kenny Stills (5th round)
    Rishard Matthews (7th round)
    Pierre Garcon (6th round)
    Allen Hurns (undrafted)
    Martavis Bryant (4th round)
    Brandon Marshall (4th round)
    Julian Edelman (7th round)

    Here are some older guys who were late draft picks since 2000:

    T.J. Houshmandzadeh (7th round)
    Stevie Johnson (7th round)
    Marques Colston (7th round)

    Even if you use the strictest possible definition of “significant impact,” there’s no way you can say only seven WRs drafted fourth round or later since 2000 have made a significant impact.

  37. filthymcnasty3 says:
    April 30, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    I can’t help but wonder – who is going to stop us this year?
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    The Wall of America the Zim Reapers!

  38. I realize most of your paranoid rants are just the effects from years of on the field abuse.
    I hate to break the news to you, but Green Bay is as good as they’ve ever been and nothing’s changing anytime soon.
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    As good as they’ve ever been?

    They 3-peated in the 60’s.. Does this look like a team that can win 3 Titles in a row? They could barely win 3 GAMES in row last year!

    They’re not as good as they were earlier this decade, and certainly aren’t in the shape they were in in the Wolf-era.

  39. aarons444 says:
    April 30, 2018 at 9:59 am

    ANYBODY is a better option than a guy proven to be coming up short.
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    Andy Reid use to make the playoffs consitently with the Eagles, and he always came up short, you know the “answer” was CHIP KELLY the coach who was going to CHANGE THE NFL.

    He did all right he was so pitiful that the Eagles, turned around and hired a guy who was deep in REIDS system, and won a Superbowl that PROOVED successful in it before Kelly chased him out.

    The Bears got rid of Love Smith who helped the get the NFC title game, to bring in QB GURU Marc Trestmen, whom was one of 3 HCs they had in the last 5 years.

    I mean if McCarthy is awful at least he, got his Packer teams with with no DB depth trying to get to the SB vs. the Falcons put up fight. While the Vikings, turned into a WELCOME TO OUR STADAIUM TO THE SB mat, because the were “Entitled” to win it? Deserved it I don’t know but their “BIG BAD DEFENSE” was pathic from the the start of the 2nd HALF vs. the Saints the week before, it just so happened a MIRACLE saved them… but everyone saw how much “heart that team had” at least their “Quirky Olympic TD celebration” gave those fans a smile in the opening quarter.

  40. aarons444 says:
    April 30, 2018 at 10:03 am
    Please.

    The WR corps was as big a reason as any why the 2010 team won the Super Bowl.
    Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Driver, Finley..
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    They helped but the defense was the BIG contributor, they were NEVER going to lock people down, but forcing INTs and fumbles giving the offense extra possessions was HUGE.

    Also the year GB won it all, Finley had 22 catches and played 5 games beofre being one of the 15 people placed on IR that season.

  41. I mean if McCarthy is awful at least he, got his Packer teams with with no DB depth trying to get to the SB vs. the Falcons put up fight.
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    ‘IF’ McCarthy is awful?… No doubt he is. Worst big game coach I’ve ever seen. Even in wins he is outcoached.

    ‘At least he got the team to the stadium’???….

    That pretty much sums up the McCarthy defense as well as his defenders.

    Dozens of coaches in this League would win with Aaron Rodgers. At least a handful would have been able to fix the defense, McCarthy CLEARLY can’t do it. His lieutenant didn’t come close the last 7 years.

    Keeping McCarthy is settling for 2nd best. I’m not willing to live in a world where that is okay. Not while Aaron Rodgers is under center.

  42. They helped but the defense was the BIG contributor, they were NEVER going to lock people down, but forcing INTs and fumbles giving the offense extra possessions was HUGE.

    Also the year GB won it all, Finley had 22 catches and played 5 games beofre being one of the 15 people placed on IR that season.
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    Good points.

    The commenter I responded to was saying the team is/was devoid of weapons, which clearly isn’t true.

    2011 was the best offense this team has ever had, 1 of the 5 best in League history.

    Offense isn’t the reason this team doesn’t have more hardware.

  43. aarons444 says:
    May 1, 2018 at 11:02 am
    I mean if McCarthy is awful at least he, got his Packer teams with with no DB depth trying to get to the SB vs. the Falcons put up fight.
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    ‘IF’ McCarthy is awful?… No doubt he is. Worst big game coach I’ve ever seen. Even in wins he is outcoached.

    ‘At least he got the team to the stadium’???….

    That pretty much sums up the McCarthy defense as well as his defenders.

    Dozens of coaches in this League would win with Aaron Rodgers. At least a handful would have been able to fix the defense, McCarthy CLEARLY can’t do it. His lieutenant didn’t come close the last 7 years.

    Keeping McCarthy is settling for 2nd best. I’m not willing to live in a world where that is okay. Not while Aaron Rodgers is under center.
    ________________________________________

    Everyone says this he is NOT good enough, say ONE name I have asked WHO?!?!?! everyone just says not him… “anyone could have done better” If the Packers don’t have MM are they in 2 of the last 4 NFC Title games?

    McCarthy also had HIS hand in Rodgers becoming the great QB he is. Some of you act as if he was in HOF before he even stepped on an NFL field. Yes Rodgers eventually showed he had ALL the tools you could want, but some of you forget how it was tough to watch him in some games (MNF vs. Ravens) before he became the starter.

  44. Everyone says this he is NOT good enough, say ONE name I have asked WHO?!?!?! everyone just says not him… “anyone could have done better” If the Packers don’t have MM are they in 2 of the last 4 NFC Title games?
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    My answer is just about anyone.

    Marvin Lewis would win with Aaron Rodgers

    Marty Schottenheimer would win with Aaron Rodgers

    Marv Levy would win with Aaron Rodgers

    .. I don’t know who the next great coach is. Big fan of Quinn and Bradley, would have loved to see the Seattle D here. I thought McVay would be a good one. I liked Pederson, but wasn’t completely convinced. I would have loved to see Andy Reid back here at any point. Most of all, I just want to move on from a guy that is clearly not a great coach.

    … I credit McCarthy for his role in developing Rodgers. I haven’t forgotten how raw he was. He would have failed in many NFL cities if he was forced into immediate action. But that was over a decade ago! How long does he get to hang his hat on that? How about the defense? Its been broken since 2011. And for everything good that we’ve seen in the Playoffs, there is something equally as bad that McCarthy has overseen. Including the Super Bowl win. The 2014 NFCC Game was an implosion for the ages.

    There will be a time for good enough. I don’t expect to be a contender after Rodgers walks away. But while they have Rodgers, they should do everything in their power to win. McCarthy hamstrings them. He doesn’t have answers for the problems this team has had the last 7 years.

  45. aarons444 says:
    May 1, 2018 at 3:56 pm
    Everyone says this he is NOT good enough, say ONE name I have asked WHO?!?!?! everyone just says not him… “anyone could have done better” If the Packers don’t have MM are they in 2 of the last 4 NFC Title games?
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    My answer is just about anyone.

    Marvin Lewis would win with Aaron Rodgers

    Marty Schottenheimer would win with Aaron Rodgers

    Marv Levy would win with Aaron Rodgers
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    Winning is one thing, being better than McCarthy is another.

  46. Winning is one thing, being better than McCarthy is another.
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    I’m willing to ride with the devil I don’t know at this point.

    Its insane to believe he change at this point. It is the literal definition of the word.

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