Ben Roethlisberger isn’t a fan of using a third-round pick on a quarterback

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In New York, veteran quarterback Josh McCown plans to do everything in his power to help rookie Sam Darnold learn the ropes. In Pittsburgh, veteran quarterback Ben Roethlisberger apparently plans to to everything in his power to not help Mason Rudolph.

Appearing on 93.7 The Fan in Pittsburgh, Roethlisberger spoke candidly about the decision of the Steelers to draft Rudolph in round three.

“I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that, maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now,” Roethlisberger said. “And nothing against Mason. I think he’s a great football player. I don’t know him personally, but I’m sure he’s a great kid. I just don’t know how backing up or being the third guy, well, who knows where he’s going to fall on the depth chart, helps us win now.

“But, you know, that’s not my decision to make. That’s on the coaches and the G.M. and the owner and those kind of things. So if they feel like he can help our team so be it. But I was a little surprised.”

Based on those statement, Roethlisberger hasn’t paid much attention to the draft strategy in New England, where the Patriots have now spent nine draft picks on quarterbacks since Tom Brady became the starter, including a pair of third-round picks and a second-round pick. Roethlisberger also was confused by the move based upon his message to the team about his commitment to keep playing.

“I think they believed me,” Roethlisberger said. “Once they drafted a quarterback in the third I wasn’t sure if they believed me or not.”

The Pittsburgh veteran also seemed to throw a little shade at Rudolph, given his post-draft comment that he doesn’t expect Roethlisberger to mentor him.

“I don’t think I’ll need to since he said he doesn’t need me,” Roethlisberger said with sort of a laugh. “If he asks me a question, I might just have to point to the playbook.”

Roethsliberger has two years left on his current contract, and he has said he plans to play three to five more years, while also reserving the right to re-evaluate his situation annually. (A year ago, he entered Brett Favre territory by making it clear that he’ll take things one year at a time.)

Maybe Ben realizes that, at some point, the question of whether he’ll keep playing won’t be his decision. Given his unique history, including the various issues, distractions, and problems he has created for the team from time to time over the past 14 years (including but not limited to a 2010 suspension that nearly got him traded), the Steelers may not hesitate to pull the plug on Ben and give the ball to Rudolph at the first hint of substantial slippage by Roethlisberger and/or the first clear sign that Rudolph is as good as the team suspected he’ll be when putting him among the top quarterbacks in this year’s class.

Regardless of how it plays out, Roethlisberger apparently won’t be getting any special deference from the team as he gets closer and closer to the end of the run. And he apparently already isn’t all that happy about the team’s looming unwillingness to give him special treatment.

122 responses to “Ben Roethlisberger isn’t a fan of using a third-round pick on a quarterback

  1. If you choose to publicly muse about retirement don’t be surprised when the team drafts your potential replacement.

  2. Ben has never been a “team mate”; he’s always been a “me mate”. Kudos to the Steelers who see the man for who he is – an aging QB with diminishing skills.

  3. Big Diva needs to grow up and help his teammates. I’m sure he had plenty of guys who helped him along the way!! Pay it forward moron!!!

  4. Best case scenario: Ben leads his team to a 7th Super Bowl, gets game MVP, decides he has had enough, retires, Rudolph steps in, takes team to the playoffs…

    or not…

  5. What’s with this guy? He complains about everything. Any time he is asked a question he starts complaining. That’s got to be so irritating to the front office and coaches. Maybe that’s why the drafted a qb…

  6. Earth-to-Ben: The player being forecast for replacement is always the last to know, and when he starts to get a clue, immediately goes into denial.

  7. Ben knows that if he gets an injury that forces him to miss time and a young player comes in and shows that he can do the job then he would be yesterday’s news (see Brady/Bledsoe). Ben is just saying what a lot of qb’s think in similar situations.

  8. Bro you and Eli both want to win NOW. Your windows are closing. Thus being said, I still think that the Giants will regret not taking a qb at that spot that high. You have limited times to pick that high for future Franchise qb. Not sure how a rb that fades away in big games helps them much. That are not a rb away from a ring.
    Sorry forgot this was a Steelers thread,, Me thinks Ben has a legit gripe for HIM and the Win Now case. But the Steelers did the right thing. Not to many 3rd rounders help you “win now”. Unless your name is JASON WITTEN. (see how I worked that in there), creative right? whatever pffffft. These treads dont get air time unless the Cowboys are in the room.

  9. Oh give us a break Ben! What a joke this guy is making himself.

    He’s only spent the last couple years constantly teasing retirement and talking about how burnt out he is. But then as soon as they draft a potential replacement, he’s like “why would you do that? I’m obviously still playing for another 5 years! I’ve obviously got so much left in the tank and am completely 100% committed to not retiring!”

    With guys like him leading the way, and Me’Veon Bell threatening retirement right before the playoffs while demanding QB money, and Antonio Brown throwing tantrums in games they win because he’s not getting as many targets as he wants or signing secret deals with Facebook Live to broadcast closed doors coaches speeches knowing it was against the rules, then claiming it to be a “spur of the moment” thing he didn’t think about, despite planning it in advance and literally being paid to do so but pretending he wasn’t so he could pocket his stupid “Business is Boomin” money, and a coach in Tomlin who couldn’t scheme his way through a game of Tic Tac Toe, it’s NO WONDER this team seems to have such a distracted, dramatic and toxic environment every year.

    What a joke these guys are.

  10. Maybe don’t make major public speculations about retirement and they won’t draft your replacement.

  11. Good God Ben, your talking retirement, and after a loss you said quote” I don’t know if I have it anymore”. Now you bitch about the team taking a QB… God what a DIVA steeler fans…

  12. He’s not going to get any better. Always injury prone and now plays the Farve card every year. Of course they were going to look for a replacement. Also like Rudolph think they got a steal.

  13. Try being on a team for your entire career that takes Antoine Cason and Jacob Hester (traded up) over Brandon Flowers and Jamaal Charles (2008). Larry English over Clay Matthews (2009), trade up for Ryan Mathews and not take Earl Thomas (2010), take Corey Liuget over Mo Wilkerson, take Jonas Mouton over Justin Houston (2011), and trade up for Manti Teo and take him over Le’Veon Bell (2013). Also, try spending free agent money on Robert Meachem (2012), Derek Cox (2013), Donald Brown (2014), Orlando Franklin (2015), Stevie Johnson (2015), Jacoby Jones (2015) and Travis Benjamin (2016). Also cut explosive players in their prime like Darren Sproles (2010) and Vincent Jackson (2011).

    Ask me then if you’re team is interested in “winning now.”

    -Phil Rivers.

  14. One of he best players in the league period. Steelers fans are spoiled. Their coach is one of the best. 84is the best receiver in the league . Their running back is second to none. If it wasn’t for the refs they be champs of the AFC.

  15. I like Ben but this is ugly. He talked about retiring last season so what does he expect Pittsburgh to do? Rudolph probably was a bargain to get in the third round. For Ben to suggest he won’t help Rudolph is childish. Nothing good came from this conversation. Face it, Ben is getting older and won’t play forever. It’s prudent to start looking for a replacement. Who knows if Mason is or he isn’t but it doesn’t make sense to insinuate he won’t help his backup. After all, isn’t it the point to win games? You can’t do that with a QB who isn’t ready to step in if Ben gets injured. I suspect someone will meet with him and tell him how stupid his comments were and he’ll issue a half-hearted apology in the next day or two.

  16. floridaslonechargersfan says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:35 pm
    Try being on a team for your entire career that takes Antoine Cason and Jacob Hester (traded up) over Brandon Flowers and Jamaal Charles (2008). Larry English over Clay Matthews (2009), trade up for Ryan Mathews and not take Earl Thomas (2010), take Corey Liuget over Mo Wilkerson, take Jonas Mouton over Justin Houston (2011), and trade up for Manti Teo and take him over Le’Veon Bell (2013). Also, try spending free agent money on Robert Meachem (2012), Derek Cox (2013), Donald Brown (2014), Orlando Franklin (2015), Stevie Johnson (2015), Jacoby Jones (2015) and Travis Benjamin (2016). Also cut explosive players in their prime like Darren Sproles (2010) and Vincent Jackson (2011).

    Ask me then if you’re team is interested in “winning now.”

    -Phil Rivers.

    ———–

    Why mention the Chargers in a thread about football teams trying to win?

  17. Ben, once again showing that he truly is as dumb as a box of rocks. I sense that this will be his last season under center, and YES, the decision to continue is NOT going to be his. Time to move forward, Steelers. Ben’sas big as a huge, will start to slip and Rudolph may prove to be a steal in this draft. Too bad that Ben doesn’t even grasp that playing nice on the mentoring at least looks good.

    Winning now. What a joke.

  18. Meh…use it as motivation. Brady always says nothing and no one’s spot is ever safe. It’s why his way of life is about maximizing his football life…nobody wants to eat avocado ice cream!

    Maybe Ben should be like TB and find his heart and fire for competition.

  19. So the aging guy who publicly said he was quitting, is surprised that the team is ensuring they have a future? WAKE UP Ben!

  20. Who knows maybe the front office felt concerned about the quarterback position after watching Ben not play well in the playoff game against Jacksonville. His performance wasn’t good in that game.

  21. This old fool cracks me up. For the last 4-5 years he has been a drama queen with his retirement talk. Now the Steelers star pushing him out the door and all of a sudden he feels 25 again is ready to play another decade.

    I DESPISE this guy.

  22. rolltide510 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    Why mention the Chargers in a thread about football teams trying to win?

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    Because Ben whines too much. Dude has got it good and is on a team trying to win unlike Phil who is on a team that does the opposite.

  23. Not surprising to see a player only worrying about this year. But, by now, you would hope the players would understand that the front office needs to look at the future as well as the current season.

  24. Nothing wrong with taking a “great football player” using a third round pick, Mr. Big Ben. Besides, do you remember those games the team lost when you were injured? With a good backup QB, the team can get more wins if you miss more games in the future. You are not getting younger and older people are more likely to be injured.

  25. Selecting a QB in Third and being able to evaluate him for a year or two, before having to decide if this man is the future or potential trade stock, is in the best interest of the team. If Ben retires in the next few off seasons, they will likely know what they have on the roster.

  26. He will help them win now when Ben inevitably gets injured and missed multiple games.

  27. Ben will be behind the Steelers wheel for a couple of more years and then Rudolph will finally be ready.

    I’m not sure why Big Ben has his panties in a wad over the use of a 3rd round pick on a developmental QB??? Any pick later than the third is generally a pick thrown against the wall along with a prayer for it to stick (like Brady) …

  28. Well, if part of the reason was to light a fire under Ben, mission accomplished.

  29. He isn’t a fan…well, that is after seeing the kinda money Matt Ryan got… retirement can wait!

  30. Ah the old drama queen Ben has returned. I wonder how many injuries he embellishes this year?

  31. deneb1973 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:08 pm
    Ben has never been a “team mate”; he’s always been a “me mate”. Kudos to the Steelers who see the man for who he is – an aging QB with diminishing skills.

    Oh yeah…diminishing skills.

  32. Big Ben is such a drama queen. Be more like Flacco and just shut up and play until they kick you out.

  33. deneb1973 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:08 pm
    Ben has never been a “team mate”; he’s always been a “me mate”. Kudos to the Steelers who see the man for who he is – an aging QB with diminishing skills.

    Oh yeah…diminishing skills. 64.2comp%, 2:1 TDs to INTs, 4251 yards, 93.4 rating. And a Pro Bowl. All in 2017. Yeah….he’s terrible.

  34. Hmmm let’s see…148 wins, 7 division titles, 10 playoff appearances, 5 AFC Championship appearances, 3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 Super Bowl championships, 6 Pro Bowl elections; in the Top 10 all-time in passer rating, yards per attempt, completion percentage, and winning percentage; and he was healthy for every game last season. Mason who?

  35. thereyougo2 says:

    May 4, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    One of he best players in the league period. Steelers fans are spoiled. Their coach is one of the best. 84is the best receiver in the league . Their running back is second to none. If it wasn’t for the refs they be champs of the AFC.
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    Steeler fan once again showing evidence that they are the least intelligent in the league

  36. The idea that old vets want to mentor a guy to take their job is laughable. Plays great with the fans who want to think the locker room is a family place where everyone sings kumbaya but that isn’t reality. Montana and Young didn’t get along. Favre and Rodgers were’t pals and neither will these guys.

  37. thereyougo2 says:

    May 4, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    One of he best players in the league period. Steelers fans are spoiled. Their coach is one of the best. 84is the best receiver in the league . Their running back is second to none. If it wasn’t for the refs they be champs of the AFC
    __________________
    Ok, Go with that

  38. I’m not a fan of QBs that start talking about retirement and act all surprised, and salty when teams try to look for life after they are gone. Besides they got a pick for trading Bryant, what are you so worried about.

  39. “Oh give us a break Ben! What a joke this guy is making himself.

    He’s only spent the last couple years constantly teasing retirement and talking about how burnt out he is. But then as soon as they draft a potential replacement, he’s like “why would you do that? I’m obviously still playing for another 5 years! I’ve obviously got so much left in the tank and am completely 100% committed to not retiring!”

    With guys like him leading the way, and Me’Veon Bell threatening retirement right before the playoffs while demanding QB money, and Antonio Brown throwing tantrums in games they win because he’s not getting as many targets as he wants or signing secret deals with Facebook Live to broadcast closed doors coaches speeches knowing it was against the rules, then claiming it to be a “spur of the moment” thing he didn’t think about, despite planning it in advance and literally being paid to do so but pretending he wasn’t so he could pocket his stupid “Business is Boomin” money, and a coach in Tomlin who couldn’t scheme his way through a game of Tic Tac Toe, it’s NO WONDER this team seems to have such a distracted, dramatic and toxic environment every year.

    What a joke these guys are.”

    While I agree with moat of your reasoning the last bit is just asinine. They’re such a joke that they almost always make the best decision for the franchise and contend almost every year. They own the most rings and have probably the fewest years of any franchise where they aren’t relevant. They almost never spend on free agents and never really have a high draft pick yet still win.

  40. I’m really high on Mason Rudolph’s potential as a franchise quarterback, especially considering the relatively low draft capital it took to acquire him. I thought it was a really great pick by the Steelers office.

    And now I think it was an even better pick.

  41. Ben has always been an arrogant ass. On the other hand, it’s his job to prepare and do the best HE can. It’s the the coaches job to prepare the backups.

  42. They should just cut this clown and move on. He was seriously talking retirement this time last year. Now he’s butthurt about a 3rd round QB pick? This guy should keep his head down and zip it with all of the skeletons in his closet.

  43. Last draft the Steelers took Dobbs in the 4th round & Ben didn’t say anything. This year the pick seems to have hit a nerve with Ben. What does he expect. One time he says he might retire next year and now he wants to play for 3-5 years.. the team is ready to move on.

  44. thereyougo2 says:

    May 4, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    One of he best players in the league period. Steelers fans are spoiled. Their coach is one of the best. 84is the best receiver in the league . Their running back is second to none. If it wasn’t for the refs they be champs of the AFC.

    Your coach has proven time and time again that’s he one of the worst coaches in the NFL. The only reason he’s still a head coach is because he has a future hall of famer at qb.

  45. Well, now I can sleep.

    I know how Ben feels about this topic.

    Hopefully crown of the helmet can pop on next and post something showing everyone his lack of football knowledge.

    It’s not really a full day until that happens.

  46. Every team has to look ahead, the Steelers are no different. They might even look ahead, possibly, more than any team at positions other than QB. It just happens that the QB position is reaching a point that it should get that ‘look ahead’ approach the older Ben gets. Plus they saw a player available that they thought was worth the pick. Maybe Rudolph ends up getting the torch passed to him, maybe he doesn’t. It’s just a fact that Ben just likes to yammer on, but in the end it means nothing.

  47. Maybe don’t question every year if you wanna retire. Maybe if you were committed to the organization and not almost retiring last year they wouldn’t have drafted your future replacement. They are just protecting themselves because you almost put them in a position where they had no replacement if you suddenly retired.

  48. I’m glad there is a link to the actual interview so that I could listen to it myself. Generally, my impression was that it was very positive and did not contain much of the negative overtone that is implied by this post and the way people have reacted to it.

    For example, Rothlisberger never said he plans to play three to five more years. Rather, after commenting about how his kids and family keep him young and how he was really excited for the upcoming season, that lots of prayer and talk with his family made him think he can do it for three to five more years but that obviously he’d need to evaluate from year to year whether that still was the case. That seems realistic and reasonable as opposed to the more selfish tone portrayed in the post.

    Regarding the drafting of a QB in the third round, he was specifically asked that by the interviewers and in my opinion answered honestly. But he made it clear that he was offering his initial reaction, not criticism of the teams choice. I guess people would have preferred him to say “On to Training Camp” several times.

    It was also very clear and he spoke at length about helping Rudolph by indicating that his 1st priority was to get himself ready for the games but that he would certainly answer questions if he was asked. Clearly the part quoted here was a joke that a veteran would make about a new player not anything malicious on his part. He also went out of his way to credit Landry Jones for taking on the role of being mentor for the young QBs and expressed concern for Jones and Dobbs (the QB taken last year) and what would happen to them, complementing Dobbs on how hard he’d been working to get better.

    He also talked about Bell, Martavis Bryant, Bruce Arians and other topics. I guess my point is that this post didn’t have to focus on these two parts of a 20 minute interview and portray them in such a way as to portray Rothlisberger in a negative light. For example, why should Ben care about New England’s draft strategy regarding QBs; why do Josh McCowns comments have any bearing. Finally, none what the author chose to speculate about Ben’s relationship with the team was expressed in the interview. It is just filler throw shade at the player in order to make his comments look worse than they were.

  49. Ben seems very selfish. What are they to do, be completely screwed and have nobody to replace when you retire? Rudolph was good value in the 3rd anyways.

  50. I’m a Bills fan who loves watching good football, but I’m still pretty sure that Josh McCown is my favorite quarterback in the league. I don’t pay any attention to him at all and he plays for a division rival, yet he impresses me on a regular basis.

  51. Ben should realize that his own retirement statements and his age (plus the fact that Landry Jones is one of the worst backups currently in the league that I’ve seen play) make Mason Rudolph a decent pick. Plus, the Steelers took his favorite WR already, and Rudolph has great arm talent and a solid resume. Why not pick up a guy like that if he’s available and your starter is aging? There’s no rush to move on from Roethlisberger (if there was, they would have done so after the first game against JAX), and it’s clear from the Steeler’s last playoff game (also against JAX) that Ben can still play at a high level. The Steelers tend to hold on to their drafted QBs and their backups (see Charlie Batch, Bruce Gradkowski, Byron Leftwich, and again, Landry Jones) for at least a few seasons if not more. Ben will be fine, not sure the reason for his statements. I don’t think he should have said that, the Steelers stuck with him his early years and everyone knows he’s top QB in the league now. Any team in that position should draft someone now while Ben is there so they can at least see how he goes about his business, and Ben shouldn’t be surprised.

    On a side note, do y’all have to bring in the Patriots into every article about the Steelers? You know they’re not even in the same division, right? And all of Brady’s backups, like Favre’s or Manning’s or whomever, have failed else where. I don’t see the comparison.

  52. Classic Ben. For all of us Steeler fan, we have come to understand that the fleas comes with the dog.

    This is why when Ben has a subpar season people question if he still has it because no matter how good a QB he is, there is always some bone head decision. Same bone head decision he made in this interview. If you don’t like the decision the team makes keep it internal. Don’t go national with your gripe and throw the organization, coach, gm and the player under the bus. At 36, this man keeps showing, he will never truly mature.

  53. At this point, after continually hold the Steelers hostage by routinely threatening to retire; who cares what Roethlisberger thinks!

  54. What is it with Pittsburgh and saying the wrong things? This organization has leadership issues.

  55. Nice teammate. You know, if he didn’t talk about the possibility of retiring the past 3 years, maybe the Steelers don’t take a QB in the 3rd round. I’m guessing all those hits to the head, plus the head injury he suffered in that motorcycle accident have done some damage to his reasoning abilities. Probably another reason for them to look for a future replacement.

  56. I have no problem with Roethlisberger here. Brady wasn’t so happy when the Patriots drafted Garoppolo and then Belichick made a remark about his age and contract situation (even though Belichick certainly took advantage of Brady over the years in a series of team friendly deals). Roethlisberger and Brady should just realize that loyalty seems to go one way with these franchises and that’s why they should try to get as much cash as they can out of each deal. In any case, nobody who competes like Roethlisberger does should be happy about this. It’s when they say what they actually think when fans get upset.

  57. If Ben plans on playing for 3 more years and they like Rudolph then he can take over in year four. Roethlisberger is acting like a Diva, the way Tom Brady has been acting. They both need to grow up and learn it’s a friggin business. I’m a huge Pats fan bit both Brady and Ben just plain suck wth there damn attitudes.

  58. The Steelers have Dobbs, Landry Jones, Rothlisberger, and of course yours truly Rudolph. I expect to see Landry Jones cut or traded, as he has been just awful on the field.

  59. What a diva. Openly talks about retirement, then backpedals afterwards. He claims he wants to play 3-5 more years which is great in theory but I don’t think his body agrees physically. And yes, he has entered the Favre zone if annual retirement questions. Plus in 3-5 years AB will be aged out or gone, & probably Bell too. So if you’re PITT management don’t you have to at least try to find your future guy? Although Rudolph is by far not the guy. But a good prospect/ backup is never a bad thing. Oh Big Ben, get over yourself.

  60. thereyougo2 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:40 pm
    One of he best players in the league period. Steelers fans are spoiled. Their coach is one of the best. 84is the best receiver in the league . Their running back is second to none. If it wasn’t for the refs they be champs of the AFC.

    Based on that logic, NE should have a 6th Lombardi in their Hall. What’s that they call NE fans if they ever include a ref in analysis of a loss?

    Hey, you brought it up. Unless Pittsburg lost an AFCCG game to another team recently. Or maybe you meant Jacksonville? That was a closer game than the 36-17 loss in 2016. Hard to blame the refs for that one. Pittsburg seems to lose a lot of close games in the playoffs.

  61. I looks like these quarterbacks who talk about retirment were just looking affirmation.

  62. Just shows once again that Tomlin gets zero respect from the players because they say and do whatever they want . Too bad the Steelers don’t realize that as long as Tomlin is the coach they will never be a team just a bunch of selfish indiviuals who care more about stats then winning .

  63. Ben, don’t be salty like that dude. First it was year-to-year…then Haley got canned and you told Pouncey and the front office “3 more years”…so they draft a guy in the 3rd round who will have a 4 year deal…now you’re changing it to 3 to FIVE more years?? Shut up dude. Be a good teammate and leader, keep those thoughts and sentiments out of the media. Plz don’t turn into Favre II…because that’s already what I’m getting after each of the two statements this guy has made on the topic since the draft. Not a good look dude. Steeler fans will certainly turn on you. Ask Le’Veon Bell.

  64. Big Ben is a hell of a QB but he doesn’t seem to be very intelligent. He often just makes stupid, off the cuff statements without thinking. Heaven forbid he gets injured! Might not be a bad idea to have a decent QB behind him. That, and every year he “ponders retirement” quite publicly. The Steelers have to protect themselves because one day he’s going to walk away.

  65. Best case scenario, Ben gets traded to Cleveland then Todd Haley cuts him.

  66. Big Ben.

    Meet Brett Favre.

    Hopefully they give you 3 years to mull retirement as well.

  67. So he said they may be better off w/ a diff pick in 3rd – big deal. I believe Landry Jones should be more worried than Ben. He probly just lost his roster spot.

  68. One of the biggest myths in pro sports is that veteran athletes help along younger players. It sounds good in theory, but not all of these guys are wise old teachers ready to extend a hand.

  69. The Steelers can go one and done in a home playoff game against the Jags just as easily with Mason Rudolph. Actually Rudolph would probably not throw a 1st quarter pick at his own 18 (the Jags scored on the next play) and then hand the Jags ANOTHER score with a strip sack returned for a touchdown. Counting starters and backups there are probably 40 quarterbacks in the NFL who would not poop the bed that badly. Small Ben in Big Games will not be missed.

  70. And people criticize Brady? There is no bigger diva in the NFL than Small Ben.

    Loooong injury history, years of underperforming in big games, talks about retiring and then is surprised / miffed when the team drafts someone to take over down the road.

    If I’m Steeler management I tell Ben we’re happy to ship you off to some crappy team that wants him, but what kind of demand would there be for his old, tired act.

  71. When a new QB is taken ideally you want to develop them as a backup at least 2 years before putting them in to start. So Ben should not care if they are starting that clock during his final years. In fact, if he cares about the team he should want them to be set to not nosedive on a qb transition after he retires. IF he cares about the team.

  72. “The idea that old vets want to mentor a guy to take their job is laughable. Plays great with the fans who want to think the locker room is a family place where everyone sings kumbaya but that isn’t reality”
    —-
    Yeah, but there’s still the idea that a guy who’s been in the league for over 15 years should be a PROFESSIONAL.

    And “mentor a guy to take his job”? You mean the job he’s been talking about walking away from for the last couple years? That one? You say that as if Ben’s career is just getting started and he plans on playing another decade. He’s gassing out and has publicly been talking about it for a long time, but NOW it’s “so unfair” that the team would start planning for the not-so-distant future?

  73. walker1191 says:
    May 5, 2018 at 11:59 am
    And people criticize Brady? There is no bigger diva in the NFL than Small Ben.

    Loooong injury history, years of underperforming in big games, talks about retiring and then is surprised / miffed when the team drafts someone to take over down the road.

    If I’m Steeler management I tell Ben we’re happy to ship you off to some crappy team that wants him, but what kind of demand would there be for his old, tired act.
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    Brady didnt do like Ben is doing here, or actually throw any tantrums. He did not go to Kraft or do anything to make them trade Garrapolo. Circumstances made them trade Garrapolo. When they drafted him they assumed Brady only had 2-3 years left so they started the development work on his replacement. And in camp Brady was very supportive of Garrapolo, actively teaching him how to read defenses etc. What happened though is when the time came to make the switch Brady wasnt showing any signs of decline, in fact he had taken his play up a notch. And the clock was running out on JGs rookie contract. They could not keep both of them so a choice had to be made. And thats an easy choice, for all Garrapolo’s youth and promise he has shown, Brady is still the establshed and proven GOAT and you dont give up that burd if you have it in hand. They waited as long as they could but had they not done that trade before the deadline they were going to lose him for nothing the following spring, and also be at risk of him landing closer to home instead of on an NFC West Coast team. The Patriots have reset that clock now. They have set themselves to have good position in next years draft to target their future and also this year took a shot at getting lucky with a late pick they can look at for a year before they have to draft next year. Brady will help with that.

  74. berto55, i was obviously talking about the specific players who are supposedly “cornerstones” and “leaders” of this team, not the history of the franchise itself.

    And yeah, their talent alone let’s them compete and look good in the regular season. How do they hold up when things get tough? When something doesn’t go their way? Every one of those “leaders” instantly defaults to “me, me, me”. They win some games with Tomlin as HC and make the playoffs, what happens when they get there and need some schematic advantages? When they need some adjustments, when they’re getting out coached? NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING time after time after time.

    So yeah, they carry themselves to moderate levels of success based purely on talent. But when it’s time to BE A TEAM and ELEVATE EACH OTHER there is nobody to be found who can accomplish that goal.

  75. Hey Ben, Joe Montana was drafted in the late third round back in 1979. Yea, a wasted pick…No means no Ben.

  76. “I just don’t know how backing up or being the third guy, well, who knows where he’s going to fall on the depth chart, helps us win now
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    It’s not always just about winning “now”, idiot. Beside, your backup is Landry Jones so yeah, maybe a decent b/u qb wouldn’t hurt.

  77. Well, Ben really has shown his true colours over the Rudolph drafting. No doubt, he isn’t going to put anything into mentoring Mason Rudolph.. And he is more likely than not lying about his opinion of him. What the Steelers have done, if anything is smart. Always has to be a backup plan.

  78. I love Ben and stand behind him. All those detractors can have their Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, etc. Ben is an elite QB in the same conversation as Aaron Rodgers, Ton Brady, etc. Period. So to me, those negative comments here are from jealous fans who cannot rebut other than by way of disparaging remarks which is fallacious. On the issue itself, yes he can handle it better and embrace the rookie. But Ben is a competitor and feels as Brady does when he says “I’ll plead the fifth” as his management doesn’t start a key player in the Super Bowl and forces him to retool his go-to receivers every year (letting Cooks and Ammendoa go). Ben and Tom are right for criticizing their management because management is not perfect and gets it wrong. New England management resorted to cheating in the Spygate affair, lost Grappalo, lost Cooks/Amendola, and didn’t start a key defensive player in the Super Bowl. Mr. Florio, they did waste most of those nine quarterback picks and good of you to point that out. Ben will be fine. If the rookie is an good, Ben will embrace him because Ben cares about Steelers winning which is necessary if Ben is injured. If you don’t think that, ask his team mates who experience his leadership in come-from behind wins which he is second all-time on the active player list (only behind Brady) and fourth all-time (behind Manning, Brady, Elway.

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