Jason Witten probably won’t make the Hall of Fame class of 2023

AP

Cowboys tight end Jason Witten announced his retirement on Thursday, and plenty of stories about him referred to him as a future Hall of Famer. He may be, but no one should pencil him in for the class of 2023, which is his first year of eligibility.

The Hall of Fame selection committee hasn’t been particularly generous with tight ends. There are only eight tight ends in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and none of them got in on the first ballot. The last tight end inducted, Shannon Sharpe, was voted down twice before he was admitted in his third year of eligibility. If Sharpe (a four-time first-team All-Pro with three Super Bowl rings) had to wait, then Witten (a two-time first-team All-Pro with zero Super Bowl rings) will have to wait as well.

Witten may also be behind some more accomplished players on the list of first-year eligible players. Joe Thomas will be on that list as well, and Thomas would likely be ahead of Witten in line. If Adrian Peterson and Darrelle Revis retire this offseason, they’d go in ahead of Witten as well. And another tight end, Antonio Gates, could get in ahead of Witten as well, if Gates retires this offseason.

And that’s before we get to the long list of players who will be on the Hall of Fame ballot in 2023 for the second or third or fifth or 10th time. We don’t yet know who all those players will be, but the Hall of Fame ballot is crowded every year, and a maximum of five modern-era players can get in each year.

So while Witten has had a great career, first-ballot Hall of Famer will probably not be an item he can add to his résumé.

69 responses to “Jason Witten probably won’t make the Hall of Fame class of 2023

  1. The Hall of Fame is a farce . You have a bunch of geeks that never played a down of football in their lives passing judgement on guys that accomplished so much.

  2. He was never the best tight end in any of his years. Gonazales, Gates and Gronkowski were/are better players and it really isn’t debatable.

  3. I’m a strong advocate of HOF exclusivity, but at the same time, the artificial limitation of “maximum of 5 modern-era players per year” is simply insufficient to allow the backlog of fully-deserving players to be enshrined.

  4. Blasphemy.the other tight ends in the hof have no where near the credentials of witten.he doesn’t have a ring but that has to do with the whole team,his personal stats are top notch.the #2 player of all time at their position is first ballot in my book

  5. You may be surprised. 4th all-time in the NFL in catches, Walter Payton Man of the Year award winner, viewed as one of the best team leaders of his era, has done anything and everything the NFL has asked of him off the field (including appearing in ads disavowing domestic abuse to give the appearance that the NFL was ethically against the behavior more than the punishments suggested at one time and also being a human boo shield for Roger at the draft) and never having a single negative headline on him his entire career. Plus, he’s a Cowboy and a soon to be broadcaster where he will continue to be a face of football and his presence won’t fall by the wayside like other players when they step away. Some of the players you mentioned have black eyes on their careers he doesn’t have. Revis gave up on teams at times, Peterson beat his kid, Sharpe was a much more volatile individual throughout his career than Witten ever was. The selection committee has shown that it’s not all about what you do on the field but how you’ve approached the game as a whole that matters. They refuse certain players entry on the 1st ballot almost to humble those they feel deserve it. Witten isn’t in need if that. If I was a betting man, I’d say he’s in year one.

  6. Witten is an 11-time Pro Bowler, a 4-time All Pro, won the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year award, is 4th all-time in receptions, 21st all-time in receiving yards, and played in 235 consecutive games. He has more catches, yards, and TD’s than Sharpe. Witten is also one of the most respected players to ever play in the NFL. If that resume doesn’t get you in the HOF on the first ballot, there’s something wrong with the process.

  7. He was a very good player, but he didn’t change the way his position was played or anything like that. But he will get in one day.

  8. I don’t think Revis would get in ahead of Witten. HOF talent, yes, but his constantly moving teams, effort level the past few years will turn off enough voters that he’ll have to wait a few years.

  9. I’ve never been a Cowboys fan and I think he should be in. I’m actually a little surprised that all the Broncos that got free vitamins from Bill Phillips are considered such a tier above.

  10. I still say if a player doesn’t get in first ballot he doesn’t belong in the HOF and that goes for all sports. Are you or aren’t you? Not years of debate. HOF should only be for the clear cut best of the best

  11. Why exactly are you claiming Gates is in over Witten? Take a look at the yardage and get back with me.

  12. Witten is/was better than Gates. I also don’t see Peterson or Re is getting in any faster than Witten. Thomas and Witten should be shoe-ins.

  13. The HoF is a joke. Is it an honor for the guys that get in, yes, but the fact that they have to take a specific number every year waters it down some years and leaves off deserving players others.

  14. I don’t think your analysis considers how important TEs have become in breaking down modern defenses.

    Witten should definitely go in on the first Ballot.

  15. He ain’t a Hall of Famer. Was never the best at the position, paltry TD stats despite being a huge target and playing what, 15, 16 years?

    A compiler.

  16. Michael E says:
    May 4, 2018 at 7:23 am
    If Dungy got in then everyone should.
    ———-

    Dungy turned around a moribund franchise and won them a Super Bowl (yes, I meant to type that). Something that several failed in doing in 25 years prior to that achievement.

    HE DESERVED TO BE IN.

  17. digilat7 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 5:57 am

    Joe Thomas was better???

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    The argument can certainly be made. Written is a 11x pro bowler, a 2x first team all pro, and a 2x second team all pro. Thomas was a 10x pro bowler, a 7x first team all pro, and 2x second team all pro. Don’t discount Joe’s play just because he was on a terrible team his entire career.

  18. “If Sharpe (a four-time first-team All-Pro with three Super Bowl rings) had to wait, then Witten (a two-time first-team All-Pro with zero Super Bowl rings) will have to wait as well.”

    Good thing it isn’t up to the likes of YOU then, huh?

  19. jerryjonesbankroll says:
    May 4, 2018 at 5:56 am
    Blasphemy.the other tight ends in the hof have no where near the credentials of witten.he doesn’t have a ring but that has to do with the whole team,his personal stats are top notch.the #2 player of all time at their position is first ballot in my book
    ——–

    Sorry man, that’s delusional. The article explained why he’s not getting in the first time. If ever.

  20. computojon says:
    May 4, 2018 at 5:24 am
    “maximum of 5 modern-era players per year” is simply insufficient to allow the backlog
    davekva72 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 6:59 am
    Witten is an 11-time Pro Bowler, 4-time All Pro, a Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year, 4th all-time in receptions, 21st all-time in receiving yards, and played in 235 consecutive games. He has more catches, yards, and TD’s than Sharpe…
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    I’d say 5 per year is too many! HoF should be RARE, only all-time greatests when they retire (or otherwise equally rare exceptional lifetime-acheivement players) should be honored, and not just a club for anyone with very good stats. 21st all-time in yards? Gee, big deal! No, Sharpe shouldn’t be in either, nor Warner, nor Fouts, nor 75% of those that get honored. Many great players sure, but all-time greats? shrines? No way. HoF became a joke long ago.

  21. computojon says:
    May 4, 2018 at 5:24 am
    I’m a strong advocate of HOF exclusivity, but at the same time, the artificial limitation of “maximum of 5 modern-era players per year” is simply insufficient to allow the backlog of fully-deserving players to be enshrined.

    To me that lowers the standard. I get your point but it’s supposed to be for the top of the top of the top, not just the best statistical players in the game in a given era. I could make a case for a lot of people using that standard. It’s for people who fundamentally change the game with their play. Maybe that’s not 5 per year but it isn’t more than 7.

  22. ochostinko says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:56 am
    digilat7 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 5:57 am

    Joe Thomas was better???

    ——

    The argument can certainly be made. Written is a 11x pro bowler, a 2x first team all pro, and a 2x second team all pro. Thomas was a 10x pro bowler, a 7x first team all pro, and 2x second team all pro. Don’t discount Joe’s play just because he was on a terrible team his entire career.

    — Thanks for this, and I think you are right. I like Witten but JT was a better player. Add to those stats that Witten did that in 15 years. Thomas did it in 11.

  23. He was never the best tight end in any of his years. Gonazales, Gates and Gronkowski were/are better players and it really isn’t debatable.

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    If you’re talking wide receivers with TE bodies, then those 3 are probably better than Witten – just by a little. If you’re talking complete TEs who actually blocked and were valuable in the running game, then Witten is better.

    How many games did Gronk miss just last year? Witten missed 1 in 15 years.

  24. I think Joe Thomas was just as good if not better at the position they played than Witten, but AP and Revis are below Witten. Witten should get in above them for sure.

  25. Rate This

    The Truth says:

    May 4, 2018 at 5:21 am

    The Hall of Fame is a farce . You have a bunch of geeks that never played a down of football in their lives passing judgement on guys that accomplished so much.

    ———

    How much you wanna bet this guy wasn’t any better than 2nd or 3rd string on his high school football team?

  26. Don’t forget Gates got popped for steroids. He should not be allowed in the HOF. Witten should be in. The dude was consistently performing year in and year out.

  27. Quite frankly, I don’t care if Jason Witten makes the hall or not. He is the epitome of what a true Dallas Cowboys stands for. Dedication, work, ethics and professionalism all apply to him. IMHO, he is the most complete Cowboy since Bob Lilly and belongs in the Ring of Honor TODAY.

    It was an honor watching you play, Mr. Witten and an even bigger honor meeting you. I wish you all the best and am looking forward to listening to your analysis on Monday Night Football.

  28. Tony Gonzalez is the #1 TE to ever play and still isn’t in the HOF (just yet). Witten is going to have to wait his turn, but will, in time, get his gold jacket. Antonio Gates may bump Witten if he decides to retire, but Gonzalez should be in already as he retired in 2013 and is right up there with Jerry Rice in the stats department.

  29. The best tight ends of this era begin with the letter G: Gonzalez, Gronk, Gates. Sorry Witten.

    Gonzalez redefined the position for athletic dual sport tight ends and pass catching. Gates was almost as dominant and Gronk just destroys people on the field and has the fortune of being on the greatest team with one of the greatest coaches and QBs.

  30. Jason Witten is a better football player than Gates. Both had great careers, but Witten was a better overall player.

  31. skmad2014 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 9:26 am
    He was never the best tight end in any of his years. Gonazales, Gates and Gronkowski were/are better players and it really isn’t debatable.

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    If you’re talking wide receivers with TE bodies, then those 3 are probably better than Witten – just by a little. If you’re talking complete TEs who actually blocked and were valuable in the running game, then Witten is better.
    ————————-
    Umm, you know Gronk blocks almost as good as a tackle, right? Its what sets him apart in the running game from other TEs.

  32. Comparing Shannon Sharpe to Jason Witten is completely foolish. Witten has almost 350 more receptions than Sharpe, almost 2500 more yards, more TDs, and could actually block.

  33. jayhawk6 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 8:15 am
    Hello? The next HOF tight end will be Tony Gonzalez. Remember him?
    ====================================================================
    What does Gonzalez not being in have to do with Witten? Gonzalez isn’t even eligible for the HOF until 2019, and he should be a lock to go in on first ballot. Witten will get his gold jacket in August 2023, you can mark it on your calendar.

  34. Why on earth would Gates get in ahead of Witten?

    Witten has over 200 more receptions than Gates, 1000 more yards. Gates has him in TDs, but that’s what you’d expect from a glorified big receiver that is 1/10 the blocker.

  35. Look, as a r3dskins fan this guy has been a pain in my add for 15 years. But if Warren Sapp is a first ballot HOF then how is this even a debate if Witten is worthy?

  36. kjdd22 says:
    May 4, 2018 at 6:35 am
    8 tight ends? How many fullbacks? HOF is a joke!

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    Absolutely! Lorenzo Neal belongs in the HOF! If he was a guard he would have been a first ballot HOF. Well, his job was to block like one, he just lined up in front of the tailback and nobody dominated his position as he did (and while we are at it – Steve Tasker and Devin Hester. They were game changers at their respective positions)

  37. Didn’t Gates get busted for PED’s last year?

    Witten was a more complete player and team leader than Gates, in my biased opinion.

    -San Diego native.

  38. Gates has missed more games due to suspension than Witten has missed in his entire career.

    Gronwkowski misses 5 games before the Bye week, and he’s in his prime.

  39. He’s not even a Hall of Famer. He’ll only get in because he played in Dallas. Guy was never a difference maker but a compiler on some pretty average teams his whole career. My litmus test is always were you one of the best of your era, and he never was since he played in the era of Gates and Graham. But watch him wait less time than T.O. because he was nice to the media and now is part of it.

  40. Witten is a HOF’er, period. Too much tripping on “first ballot,” who cares. Too many old guys waiting for their day in the sun, there should be less first ballot guys anyway.

    On that topic, Lester Hayes > Revis.

  41. I know Dallas fans are pointing out that Witten has more yardage than Gates, but Gates has 46 more TDs. Scoring is much more valuable than yardage, you have to take Gates over Witten.

  42. To the legion of fools whose football knowledge stems primarily from Madden or fantasy football, Witten is overrated and not on the level of a Gates or Graham or such. But those people ignore this little thing called BLOCKING – whereas many of the top receiving number TEs were glorified WRs, Witten was a real blocking weapon too. So while he was a tier behind those other guys in catching, he was MULTIPLE tiers ahead as a blocker. Factor in that he was a top notch person for all his years, that he lasted as long as he did, and he was essentially healthier than the rest as well, and no, he does NOT fall behind someone like Gates in the pecking order. Let’s not overrate All Pro teams here, either; whereas many positions judge All Pros right, and so they are useful in those cases, for TEs the receiving numbers are overrating and the blocking underrated. Witten is unfairly dinged in that arena, but his 11 (deserving) Pro Bowls shows how elite he was and for how long, regardless of whether there were a couple of glory stat guys to push him out of the All Pro nod or not.

  43. “Witten was never thought of as the best tight end any season.”

    No, that is false. He was one of the top TE for at least six or seven years in the NFL. Maybe not every game, but he put up numbers just as gaudy as Gates, who was a stud, too. And let’s not forget Witten could block, something Gates and Gronk aren’t exactly known for, nor particularly good at. As a true TE, when viewed as both a pass catcher and a blocker, who was better in his era?

  44. digilat7 says:May 4, 2018 at 5:57 am
    “Joe Thomas was better???”

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    Joe Thomas is one of the best players who ever played the game, full stop.

  45. madderstork says:
    May 4, 2018 at 12:21 pm
    Witten is a HOF’er, period. Too much tripping on “first ballot,” who cares. Too many old guys waiting for their day in the sun, there should be less first ballot guys anyway.

    ===

    If you’re not a first ballot, then you’re not a hall of famer… should only be best of the best and if you can’t get in on that first ballot, then you obviously aren’t it.

  46. this is like the Emmitt Smith arguments all over again. He is the most complete TE that has played in quite some time. Better receivers existed, but nobody had it all – catching, blocking, locker room leader, and played through injury, like him.

    Parcells has it right. He is what people should think of when they think of great players in the NFL.

  47. Gates was a hell of a tight end, but I can’t help but point out The Chargers showed Gates the door, Dallas begged Witten to continue his career with them.

  48. herkiethehawk says:
    May 4, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Gates was a hell of a tight end, but I can’t help but point out The Chargers showed Gates the door, Dallas begged Witten to continue his career with them.
    ————

    Means nothing. Dallas has nothing but unproven players over there. Bolts know what they have with Henry.

  49. Reading some of the comments from a few Pats fans, an Eagles fans and a Vikings fan – what are you folks smoking? #4 in catches – including receivers…of all-time! One of the best blocking tight ends there ever was.

  50. .
    funny how everyone keeps leaving off the fact witten as 16 more games played than gates.
    so that 1000 yard advantage doesnt mean anything, where the 2x more TD’s now means a TON more.
    ooops Romo sacked again! and again! oh romo broke his back, that great blocker must have been on the bench….

  51. pastabelly says:

    May 4, 2018 at 5:24 am

    He was never the best tight end in any of his years. Gonazales, Gates and Gronkowski were/are better players and it really isn’t debatable.

     

     
    Yeah ok! You lost any credibility when you put Gronk in the same sentence with Witten.

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