Packers break their Terrell Buckley rule for Jaire Alexander

AP

More than 20 years ago, the Green Bay Packers adopted under G.M. Ron Wolf an unwritten rule: No cornerbacks shorter than five-feet, 10-and-a-half inches. New G.M. Brian Gutekunst broke that rule with his very first draft pick in the job previously held by Wolf.

And there’s a connection between the guy who inspired the rule and the player who prompted Gutekunst to disregard it. Former Packers defensive back Terrell Buckley (five-nine) previously served as position coach at Louisville for new Packers defensive back Jaire Alexander (five-10-and-a-quarter).

“T-Buck, he taught me a lot of technique,” the 18th overall pick in the draft said recently, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “As far as swagger goes, I tell T-Buck all the time, ‘I got my swag from T-Buck.’ So he knows that. He played with some swagger too, now, if you watched him.”

Buckley has continued to give Alexander advice. Alexander may need more of it in order to adjust to life in Green Bay.

“Never in my life did I think I’d be here in Wisconsin, so it’s an experience,” Alexander said. “It’s definitely different. Even the plane ride coming in, I’m like, ‘Man, there’s so many fields and stuff.’ I don’t know what to expect. But it’s been pretty cool.”

Alexander makes up for his lack of height not only with swagger but also with great coverage ability, uncanny ball skills, and a knack for returning punts. It was enough to get Gutekunst to make an exception to the Terrell Buckley rule.

54 responses to “Packers break their Terrell Buckley rule for Jaire Alexander

  1. All they need is one of two immediate game-changers. Ted’s picks gave us a lot, but not too many game changers. Packers have not had their fair share of immediately-good rookies. That’s why the front office change was bade. Fingers-crossed.

  2. NFL is a matchup game. Packers have a 6’3″ corner(King), a 6’1″ corner(Jackson) and a 5’10” corner(Alexander). I say start the best 2 and move Alexander to the slot on nickel coverage. Also Alexander can stay with your shorter quick twitch recievers(Hill, Beckham, Brown, Cooks, etc) allowing you to bracket them and use your longer corners elsewhere.

  3. He may be shorter than what gb usually draft, but middle of the pack for db in this year’s draft. He’ll have a lot of practice with taller receivers. Every day he will be practicing against those tall receivers gb drafted. Cool that tbuck was his position coach

  4. stellarperformance says:
    May 5, 2018 at 6:44 pm

    All they need is one of two immediate game-changers. Ted’s picks gave us a lot, but not too many game changers. Packers have not had their fair share of immediately-good rookies. That’s why the front office change was bade. Fingers-crossed.

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    In Ted’s defense, though, it’s awfully hard to find game changers when you’re drafting in the high twenties or even the thirties year after year after year. Imagine if he’d drafted in the top fifteen all those years… or even half of those years.

    My only real knock on Ted is that after he started having a fair amount of success with UDFA, he seemed to become a little too enamored with the idea.

  5. Good luck vs Thielen, Diggs, Marvin Jones, Golden Tate, and Allen Robinson. Some of the best route runners in the league will test him immediately.

  6. Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?

    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.

  7. They also broke the rule for Ahmad Carroll and that didn’t work out either. Hope it does this time.

  8. All they need is a couple line backers, couple D linemen, and a couple DBs and they will be right there. SKOL!

  9. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?
    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.
    _______

    Cheese. The Vikings first round pick is the same height as Alexander but 7 pounds less, according to the NFL. Will Hughes be going on the IR?

  10. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?

    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    You do know Alexander is both bigger and substantially faster than Hughes, don’t you? Wait, what in the world am I saying? Of course you don’t. The actual facts, as always, are entirely irrelevant to your delusions.

  11. hanspard ,

    I think it’s because of his flamboyance and also the expectation that he would be in the same league as the greatest FSU player ever, Deion Sanders, no doubt big shoes to fill,but Buckley thought he could and would tell you, lol. He probably still thinks he was as good to this day if he was being candid. Lot of confidence on him, which is what we loved about him.

  12. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:19 pm

    In Ted’s defense, though, it’s awfully hard to find game changers when you’re drafting in the high twenties or even the thirties year after year after year. Imagine if he’d drafted in the top fifteen all those years… or even half of those years.
    _______________________

    While I agree in the bottom third of the draft, the people that draft in the top 15 consistently don’t get to hang around long, or at least they shouldn’t. A rule of thumb I go buy is if you get 2 starters and a project player (Micah Hyde, Mike Daniels). I think one of these CBs have staying power, hopefully both can learn in Pettines new system. If the WRs drafted late can catch the ball, they will be HUGE for helping the offense, Finley Jones and Adams have all struggled with drops but have eventually got over the hump in that it seems.

  13. I’d rather have a 5’10” corner that can cover, good hips and speed than a 6’1″ corner that can’t/doesn’t.

  14. I hate the Packers mainly because as kid Favre continually kept knocking the 9ERS out the playoffs.

    But To be honest I thought they had a very good draft. Building up the defense to help Rodgers by giving him more opportunities to get the ball back via by turnovers or having the 20 plus points per game he leads the offense to stand for a win.

  15. If a guy can play, he can play, regardless of his size. I always reference Doug Flutie. He was labeled as too small to play QB in the NFL, yet all he did when he did play was play really well.

  16. gb is well known to break rules in football. Those 13 championships were well assisted.

  17. hailtothenamechange says:
    May 5, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    Why make a policy against short corners based on a short corner who had a long and good career for you? Odd.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Buckley’s time in GB was neither long nor good. He came into his own later in his career with Tampa, maybe, or Miami?

  18. For the record, Buckley left the Packers after his rookie contract expired and they couldn’t agree on the next one. Buckley wanted to be paid like a top DB and the Packers countered with a lower amount in line with his production. So he left Green Bay and still didn’t the money he wanted but had a long NFL career. He was decent but nowhere near what was expected out of a #5 pick overall.

  19. The average height of the American male has declined slightly over the past 20 years. 5-10 1/4 today was 5-10 1/2 before the turn of the century, if you take into account deflation. This is truth.

  20. The Packers may have broken their Terrell Buckley rule but the are solid with their Eddie Lacy rule which is make sure to draft a least one fat and lazy player each draft.

  21. AlmightyCabbage
    ————————-
    You do realize that whining about draft pick postion is a losers excuse right? The Vikings offense and defense is filled with players that were taken late in the first or after. Just need a competent GM to draft all rounds… not just 1 picck 12 years ago. Thompson made Grigson look competent.

    Griffen – 3rd or 4th
    Hunter – 3rd
    Kendricks – 2nd
    Rhodes – 20’s
    Smith – late 20’s
    Alexander – 2nd round
    Josepph – FA
    Richardson – FA
    Sendejo – FA
    Barr and Waynes were top half of the first… I wouldn’t put either of them in top hald of our defensive Playmakers.

    On offense, I don’t think we have a single player that was drsfted in the first starting for us.

    But, don’t let the facts get in your way.

  22. If he isn’t another Gb bust good luck resigning the guy… he doesn’t sound too excited to live in a town without elevators (since everything is 2 stories) and be surrounded by the scent of cow dung 24/7.

    The cow dung makes sense too because basically the GB cheese hats are like saying “we’re #2” since California is America’s dairy state.

  23. You do know Alexander is both bigger and substantially faster than Hughes, don’t you?
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    Fast in underwear and a few pounds makes little difference. Strength and body type are what matters and I double down Alexander is slight, Hughes is not. Look it up.

  24. and be surrounded by the scent of cow dung 24/7.
    —————-
    To be fair it is not just cow dung..its cow dung mixed with toilet paper. Very unique to Green Bay. I feel sorry for the Vikings having to play there this summer when that order is horrific.

  25. Yes, Barney fans being as classy as ever.
    I’m sorry, but there are as many fields and farms in the state Minnesota as there are in Wisconsin.
    The Gopher state is no bastion of high culture overflowing with bright lights, big city mentality.
    I honestly don’t understand the superiority complex you guys suffer from.
    Unless you’re just lashing out, stung by the loser mentality of your favorite football team.

    I, as many Wisconsinites, have traveled extensively throughout Minnesota to hunt and fish as I’m sure many of you have here.
    Though you will beg to differ, the people, on a whole, are no better looking or smarter.
    The air smells no sweeter and both states have plenty to offer fine midwestern folks.

    About the only significant difference when you cross the Mississippi to the West is the simple fact that the football gets so much more lousier.

  26. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?
    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You do know Alexander is both bigger and substantially faster than Hughes, don’t you? Wait, what in the world am I saying? Of course you don’t. The actual facts, as always, are entirely irrelevant to your delusions.
    —————
    PS The Vikings are not depending on Hughes. He will come in as a backup and returner. The Packers are depending on Alexander to save the day. Good luck with that.
    ——————

  27. why do vikings fans always come here to get owned? lol. everything you say can be dismissed with a simple “how many championships do you have?” donut.

    but division titles count as championships, right, hahaha

  28. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 6, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    May 6, 2018 at 2:50 pm
    Yes, Barney fans being as classy as ever.

    Boooo hoo hooo. Waaaah. Waaaah. 😥😪
    _______________________

    skoLOL!
    And as childish, too!

  29. “The Gopher state is no bastion of high culture overflowing with bright lights, big city mentality.
    I honestly don’t understand the superiority complex you guys suffer from.”

    That’s a really interesting subject. They like to pretend they all live in Minneapolis (St. Paul being a little too blue collar), attend the theatre regularly, and aren’t actually part of fly-over country. They’re proud of “Minnesota Nice” but get very prickly when it’s shown that they aren’t the best at something. As for Alexander, every board I saw before the draft had him as the #2 or 3 CB, and I think he’s going to do very well.

  30. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?

    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    Come on. You don’t eat cheese? I don’t believe you Velveeta. Everybody eats cheese. And are you back to predicting the future again? Great! Tell us…….do the Vikings win a SuperBowl this year? Next year?

  31. stellarperformance says:
    April 29, 2018 at 7:02 am
    An early first round pick from the Saints would be good, followed by the last pick in the first round……even better.
    Go Pack Go!
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    Predicting a super bowl for the team you cheer for is your deal and a Packer fan thing. see Mark Murphy.

    (Me and Arron Rodgers definitely do not eat cheese. It is disgusting. And the way it is over eaten in some place (hint hint) is worse than disgusting.)

  32. But Velveeta……..these are your predictive words:

    “When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.”

    Clearly, you’re making predictions. Stop lying.

  33. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 6, 2018 at 2:51 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    May 5, 2018 at 8:46 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    May 5, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    Depending on a slight rookie to change that garbage of a secondary? And cheese eaters are convincing themselves this is a good plan?
    When Alexander goes on the IR this year remember to keep your hopes that he will balloon up and not slow down.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    You do know Alexander is both bigger and substantially faster than Hughes, don’t you? Wait, what in the world am I saying? Of course you don’t. The actual facts, as always, are entirely irrelevant to your delusions.
    —————
    PS The Vikings are not depending on Hughes. He will come in as a backup and returner. The Packers are depending on Alexander to save the day. Good luck with that.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So now you know the thoughts of both the Vikings’ coaching staff AND the Packers’ coaching staff? This just keeps getting better and better.

    Also, Alexander is about a half inch taller and 6 or 9 pounds heavier than Hughes. It’s not a lot but it is physically impossible (and by “physically” I mean as pertains to the laws of physics) for Alexander to be “slight” and Hughes not be “slight-er.” Hughes is smaller in both height and mass. One of the main laws of physics is that matter can’t be created or destroyed. So, the only place Hughes could possibly be “less slight” than Alexander, is in your delusions. Of course, I’m sure the laws of physics don’t apply in your delusions… no other kind of facts ever have.

  34. nathanp2013 says:
    May 6, 2018 at 1:19 pm
    AlmightyCabbage
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    You do realize that whining about draft pick postion is a losers excuse right? The Vikings offense and defense is filled with players that were taken late in the first or after. Just need a competent GM to draft all rounds… not just 1 picck 12 years ago. Thompson made Grigson look competent.

    Griffen – 3rd or 4th
    Hunter – 3rd
    Kendricks – 2nd
    Rhodes – 20’s
    Smith – late 20’s
    Alexander – 2nd round
    Josepph – FA
    Richardson – FA
    Sendejo – FA
    Barr and Waynes were top half of the first… I wouldn’t put either of them in top hald of our defensive Playmakers.

    On offense, I don’t think we have a single player that was drsfted in the first starting for us.

    But, don’t let the facts get in your way.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Nobody’s whining about draft order. All I said was it’s hard to find game-changers in the high twenties or thirties. If you think those guys on your list are all game-changers, you’re even more delusional than the rest of your little purple pals. But thank you VERY much for the list. It clearly shows that Spielman has completely blown nearly every first-round pick he’s ever made… and how proud of him you are for it.

    Care to try again?

  35. Mike Hughes
    “A little short but stout and tough”

    JAIRE ALEXANDER
    “Gangly frame unlikely to carry much more good weight”

    One can bench like he is in the NFL the other can not.

    And it does not take any insight to see Packers lack of corners before the draft.

  36. cheeseisfattening
    PS The Vikings are not depending on Hughes. He will come in as a backup and returner. The Packers are depending on Alexander to save the day. Good luck with that.
    __________________________

    A backup?!?! So a 1st round pick on a back up? Not even a QB to sit on he bench and learn I could let slide,. A returner?!? How silly are the Vikings do draft a guy to use a 1st rounder, on something that is LITERALLY getting more and more phased out every season?

    As far as your “Bench Pressing like and NFL player” look at several of the OL that succeed in bench press, many times its guys wit shorter arms… its because longer arms need to use more energy to do a rep, Besides judging CBS by bench press is like judging lineman by their 40 yard dash. Sherman benched it 16 times, Aqib Talib did TEN, and Revis didn’t even bother doing it, because it matters so little.

    How much more “good weight” does Alexander need? Hes 196 thats pretty respectable for a NFL CB, Champ Bailey, Revis, Sherman all weigh around that.

  37. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    May 6, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    nathanp2013 says:
    May 6, 2018 at 1:19 pm
    AlmightyCabbage
    ————————-
    You do realize that whining about draft pick postion is a losers excuse right? The Vikings offense and defense is filled with players that were taken late in the first or after. Just need a competent GM to draft all rounds… not just 1 picck 12 years ago. Thompson made Grigson look competent.

    Griffen – 3rd or 4th
    Hunter – 3rd
    Kendricks – 2nd
    Rhodes – 20’s
    Smith – late 20’s
    Alexander – 2nd round
    Josepph – FA
    Richardson – FA
    Sendejo – FA
    Barr and Waynes were top half of the first… I wouldn’t put either of them in top hald of our defensive Playmakers.

    On offense, I don’t think we have a single player that was drsfted in the first starting for us.

    But, don’t let the facts get in your way.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Nobody’s whining about draft order. All I said was it’s hard to find game-changers in the high twenties or thirties. If you think those guys on your list are all game-changers, you’re even more delusional than the rest of your little purple pals. But thank you VERY much for the list. It clearly shows that Spielman has completely blown nearly every first-round pick he’s ever made… and how proud of him you are for it.

    ————–

    If you don’t think those players aren’t defensive game changers, than you know less about Defense than the Packers do, which is why their defense is so bad each year.

    If you had to pick two out of this list, Rhodes is one of the best COrners in the whole league. He routinely shuts down elite WR’s and they have their worst games against him. He has shutdown in his career, Brown, OBJ, Julio Jones, Mike Evans, Bryant, AJ Green, ….should I go on? There isn’t any WR that he can’t cover. How is that not game changing?

    Harrison Smith is in the top 3 for safeties in the whole league. Many consider him the best.

    The Vikings defense is full of game changers. They came up short in the Eagles game partially because of injuries (Rhodes didn’t even play most of that game), and lack of depth exhausted them.

    Speilman has blown some first round picks (Ponder, Treadwell), but he has hit on many as well. While I don’t agree with the other fan picking on you for talking about draft order. The Packers have had more recent success, but to say that those players aren’t game changers is absolutely absurd.

  38. I didn’t say none of them, I said not all of them. And honestly, I don’t see many on the list, if any, that can put a team on his back and carry it to victory. The entire lot, and especially the “vaunted” secondary got absolutely torched for six straight quarters, by two different teams, to end their season with a whimper instead of a bang. And now those guys are game changers???? Wow. I’m sorry, but on this side of the river the bar is set just a bit higher than that.

    Reggie White was a defensive game changer. LT was a defensive game changer. Mike Singletary was a defensive game changer. I could go on, of course, but why bother? If you think any of the guys on that list even belong in the same conversation as the guys I just listed or others like them, the conversation will go nowhere.

  39. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    May 7, 2018 at 10:09 am

    I didn’t say none of them, I said not all of them. And honestly, I don’t see many on the list, if any, that can put a team on his back and carry it to victory. The entire lot, and especially the “vaunted” secondary got absolutely torched for six straight quarters, by two different teams, to end their season with a whimper instead of a bang. And now those guys are game changers???? Wow. I’m sorry, but on this side of the river the bar is set just a bit higher than that.

    Reggie White was a defensive game changer. LT was a defensive game changer. Mike Singletary was a defensive game changer. I could go on, of course, but why bother? If you think any of the guys on that list even belong in the same conversation as the guys I just listed or others like them, the conversation will go nowhere.

    —————-

    Your analysis is way off. They got torched in 4 quarters (Eagles Game). In the Saints game they shut the Saints out in the first half, the Saints scored one field goal in the third. The Saints scored on a short field thanks to a terrible interception by Case Keenum (Is that the defense getting tourched?). They also scored again thanks to a blocked punt and a short field (Defense getting tourched)?. One more touchdown scored just because Drew Brees is good. Most of those points are the fault of special teams and a interception. That is not getting “Torched”. lol The Eagles game I’ll give you that, but one game is not incumbent of a whole season of great defensive play. The Fact is the defensive unit played good all year and got out gunned by the Super Bowl champs, and it’s pathetic how you mock a part of our team that is a strength, and a big reason why the Packers haven’t been dominant in recent years and it’s a weakness of your team. The Vikings have boasted a top 5 unit last 3 years. That would be like me mocking your offense which I know is a strength for your team when Rodgers plays. The Vikings and Packers have the same win loss record since Zimmer has been coach.

  40. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    May 7, 2018 at 10:09 am

    I didn’t say none of them, I said not all of them. And honestly, I don’t see many on the list, if any, that can put a team on his back and carry it to victory. The entire lot, and especially the “vaunted” secondary got absolutely torched for six straight quarters, by two different teams, to end their season with a whimper instead of a bang. And now those guys are game changers???? Wow. I’m sorry, but on this side of the river the bar is set just a bit higher than that.

    Reggie White was a defensive game changer. LT was a defensive game changer. Mike Singletary was a defensive game changer. I could go on, of course, but why bother? If you think any of the guys on that list even belong in the same conversation as the guys I just listed or others like them, the conversation will go nowhere.

    ————

    Also – yes it would be absurd to compare the current Vikings to any of those players, but also all these players on the Vikings are young, home grown and have lots of football left. Only time will tell if they keep playing at a high level. What is the definition of game changing? Someone who affects a game? right? Well, the Eagles game where the Vikings got “torched” Rhodes did not play for most of that game because he was injured. He had been injured for parts of the Saints game to. Having a top corner like that out, could have affected the game, or “Changed” it.

    Lots of these players are game changers, but you are only looking at splash stats probably(Sacks, interceptions). Not every game changer pads their stat sheets.

    I’m pretty sure Barr changed your season.

  41. I’m not mocking anything. It’s a good defense. What it is NOT, is “stacked with game changers,” anymore than Tice, Chilly or Frazier were “the best coach in the NFL” or Ponder, T-Jack, Webb, Teddy, Peterson, et al were “the face of the franchise that took over the division, dominated, and led the Vikings to victory for years to come.”

    You guys aren’t just prone to hyperbole, you seem to live by it. None of it… I mean absolutely none of it… has ever proven out; and yet, you guys just keep at it. Everything is always “the best” with you guys and the reason the Vikings have never won anything is because of the refs, or the curse, or the league hates them, or… etc, etc, etc. At what point do you become more realistic?

    Tell me they’re a good defense and I’ll agree with you every time. Tell me they’re a very good defense and I’ll agree with you. Tell me they’re a great defense and I’ll say “Mmm, maybe. They seem to be on the brink but let’s see a little more before claiming greatness.” Tell me they’re “stacked with game changers” and I’ll take you about as seriously as I take Ariani.

  42. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    May 7, 2018 at 11:07 am

    You guys aren’t just prone to hyperbole, you seem to live by it. None of it… I mean absolutely none of it… has ever proven out; and yet, you guys just keep at it. Everything is always “the best” with you guys and the reason the Vikings have never won anything is because of the refs, or the curse, or the league hates them, or… etc, etc, etc. At what point do you become more realistic?

    —————–

    I never said our Defense is the best, or anything about our team is the best. lol. I just think it’s absurd to pick on a good defense because of a bad game. Like this defense will disappear next year. I still stick with my point that Rhodes is a game changer at Corner. How is he not? As stated he routinely shuts down top WR’s in the NFL. When Rhodes is healthy the Vikings defense is even better. When you can have one guy shutdown the best offensive weapon on the other team, that’s a luxury and is game changing. He has done it for 3 years at a high level against the best WR’s in the league. When he was healthy the Vikings defensive was a top unit. Jacksonville might be a bit better. The Vikings defense were the best 3rd down defense in NFL history (look it up)last year.

    In your early comment you said that a game changer is someone who puts a team on it’s back. If you are using that definition for game changer the only game changer on both teams is Aaron Rodgers. Defense players can’t do that, and neither could Reggie White. He affected games, and made teams do things different and plan for him. TO me that’s a game changer. It changes a game, or games and makes team plan for them. Which White was, and Rhodes is to. White is a bigger legend, and played longer, so you can’t argue the greatness level. Comparing the two players isn’t even worth it because one is more accomplished, and one has many more years to play. One has played longer, and has proven it. Rhodes has had an excellent start, and if he keeps it up who knows. But he does force teams to account for him, his team performs worst without him, and in all regards is a game changer. The Packers would be happy to have a corner of his caliber. Look up Rhodes stats against top WR’s in the league for the past 3 years. Maybe one of your draft picks will turn out good. I’m not lowering standards I think your definition is just not applicable to a defensive linemen, or any defensive player. Especially with the rules in the NFL now that make it that much harder on defenses.

  43. If the Vikings had from what i counted on the list “11 Game Changers” that NFC Title game, which is why Rhodes, and Smith are the only two, MAYBE Barr. Game changers don’t quit like the Vikings did, and if they had TRUE leadership on the side of the defensive ball, they wouldn’t have let that team quit either.

    “Barr changed the season for GB” Congrats his most NOTABLE play his career counted NOTHING in the stat book MAYBE he got a “hurry”, Rodgers rolled out and hit an open Bennett whom DROPPED the pass. If the a Vikings QB got hit like that you would likely be whining about a bounty again.

  44. Pass rush is important but if they don’t get to the QB in 3 seconds or less, its the DBs that need to cover more.

    Remember DBs can be equally as helpful it getting the QB pressured while dropping back. Thats why they call them “Coverage Sacks”

    So I feel DBs that can consitently cover for 5 to 6 seconds consistently would be of better value being that pass rush can be inconsistent.

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