Joe Flacco has “gotten the message”

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The decision of the Ravens to trade back into round one and select quarterback Lamar Jackson sent a clear signal to plenty of people. One of the intended recipients was Joe Flacco. And I think. He gets. The point.

Via Peter King of SI.com, Flacco has “gotten the message.” He knows that the team is reacting to a “boring” Salisbury Steak and steamed spuds offense that “excite[s] no one.”

Some think that Flacco will still get all of 2018 to turn things around, given his salary and cap number. King suggests it’s hardly a given, writing that “Flacco will get the first shot, and he may well play well enough to beat back Jackson.”

Here’s the thing: The Ravens seem to be determined to give Jackson a chance to play, probably in a “Slash”-style role like the one Kordell Stewart filled as a rookie in Pittsburgh 23 years ago. Once Ravens fans get a taste of what Jackson can do — and if he can do it well — they’ll want more.

Some in the organization may want more, too. Remember, the Ravens were considering taking Jackson with the 16th pick in the draft. So they have big plans for Jackson, and those plans include giving them a way to justify cutting the cord on Flacco.

Then there’s this: Flacco financially had Baltimore by the marbles five years ago, and Flacco squeezed. Hard. Then, when his contract needed to be restructured, he squeezed again. Harder. If he’s performing at a high level, there’s no danger of the Ravens squeezing back. Now that Flacco has shown some slippage, the Ravens may soon get a chance to settle scores with Flacco, and they likely won’t hesitate to do it, especially if the rookie plays in Baltimore like he played in Louisville.

71 responses to “Joe Flacco has “gotten the message”

  1. Teams with good (but not great) QBs should always consider drafting a QB in Round 1. Even if he never gets on the field, his presence sends a message that instantly improves your veteran QBs play when he “gets the message.”

  2. When are teams going to learn that throwing another QB in to run some kind of option based offense doesn’t work. It’s too easy to defend if you know it’s coming. To be successful they have to open up a much bigger part of the playbook to Jackson so it’s less predictable.

  3. Lamar’ll get a chance later in the year when, as per last 3yrs, Ravens can’t make the playoffs.

  4. Flacco hit it big with perfect timing. But he’s a second tier QB. Hopefully the $136,000,000 he’s made so far will ease the pain.

  5. Flacco’s stats last year: 18 TDs, 13 ints, 3141 yards he also fumbled 6 times (just luck that none of them were recovered by the D) he’s 33 and hasn’t been remotely franchise caliber QB since 2014. His cap hit if cut is the only reason he wasn’t cut. (Bortles was 21tds, 13 ints, 3687 yards with 9 fumbles in comparison and no one really considers him a franchise QB)

  6. What goes around comes around. All these athletes think their skills are going to last forever (see: Dez Bryant). When degradation sets in and they start hearing footsteps it’s not pretty.

  7. redlikethepig says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Flacco hit it big with perfect timing. But he’s a second tier QB. Hopefully the $136,000,000 he’s made so far will ease the pain.

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    Flacco reminds me of Rich Gannon. Give him a great OL and a good RB and he can be nearly elite. If not he’s just barely above average. Interestingly those the only two QBs to appear in the Super Bowl from the AFC since 2001 other than Brady, Peyton and Ben.

  8. RussianBreadMaker says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:05 am
    Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Because with inept coaches like Marvin Lewis, Mike Tomlin and Hue Jackson in the NFL, Harbaugh looks pretty good….

  9. Joe flacco hasnt been in top form in several years, but ive seen him play and hes still physically got it. So the dude really could get it back and take the Ravens to another championship. Yall forget what this dude is about so let me remind you. Hes a 6’6″ big boy who only throws rainbows, lasers, and flick of the wrist darts. Hes got a tight dropback and bounces up from hits real quick. Watch the AFC Eli inflict his reign of terror on yall again

  10. You can’t fault Flacco for wanting market value. The problem is, Ozzie Newsome never budgeted for him.

    They were to the hilt under the cap every year from 2012-2016. Go back and look at how little operating room” they had for in season moves, for example. They’s submit their roster in Sept and be 1-2 million away from the cap ceiling, almost every year.

    In 2010, Brady took the highest salary into the Lockout. Right then and there, Ozzie should have started budgeting, instead of overpaying for guys like Dumervil, etc.

    The Ray Rice cap hit in 2015 was 9.5 million if he had to be cut. That’s why Goodell was trying to help Bisciotti/Newsome/Harbaugh cheat and why they wanted Goodell to frame Brady for for Framegate II. It was all to keep them competitive as a team that was known as challenigng the Pats in the postseason.

    I called this out years ago, and here we are. It’s called arrogance.

    What WOULD HAVE APPEARED like an overpayment of 15-17 mil for Flacco in 2012, before the season, would have seemed like a bargain by 2016.

  11. When will the front office finally get the message that they need to draft quality receivers and tightends, instead of relying on other teams cap casualties

  12. If drafting his potential replacement is what it took for him to “get the message” then I bet the Ravens wished they sent him that message at least 3 seasons ago!

  13. I’m all for teams squeezing back when given the chance. These players really use their leverage whenever they can so I have no problem when the team cuts bait if a guy under performs.
    Guys are so bleeping greedy it makes me sick. Flacco had a chance to build around a solid defense and compete for multi titles but instead he selfishly took every penny he could so that the team couldn’t add offensive play makers around him. What happened? Mediocrity and no deep runs into playoffs.
    You reap what you sew Flacco.

  14. Lamar Jackson has a long way to go before he sends Flacco to the sidelines. The Ravens had a QB like him before. Tyrod Taylor. Jackson is a faster version of Taylor.

  15. Regarding Jackson here is what I don’t understand: several in the media have dumped on Josh Allen for a 56% completion percentage. Jackson’s completion percentage: 57%. Now either both are terrible and need to be fixed or both are ready to go. But, AJ McCarron makes Flacco look elite so I think it is more likely Josh Allen starts this year than Lamar Jackson. Just a hunch.

  16. Flacco has gotten a bum wrap in my opinion but cutting ties with him after this upcoming season is definitely the way to go.

  17. “Flacco squeezed. Hard. Then, when this contract needed to be restructured, he squeezed again. Harder.”
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    Wait, Richard Sherman just got criticized here MULTIPLE times for negotiating his own contract and not appearing to “squeeze” hard enough.

    Now the narrative is that players aren’t supposed to maximize their contract value when their chance comes up?? Dude went lights out and WON the SB for the Ravens and earned. EVERY. SINGLE. PENNY.

  18. Don’t know if Flacco will play well this year or not, but Lamar Jackson appears to be no sure thing as their ‘QB of the future’.

  19. Settle the Score with Flacco? That’s laughable. The Ravens drafted a RUN first QB with poor passing accuracy. The geniuses better slow their roll on pushing Joe out the door. What should be explored is how the organization has become vanilla since the goat left town. Flacco was all they needed to push them over the top because for 17 years the Baltimore ravens had a defense that willed the team to victory. Now that leadership, the rules that alllowed it and the personnel to carry it out are GONE.

    Now we are to believe that poor man’s RG3, who had better accuracy in college, is the answer to drive then team into it’s next phase. We’ll see and we’ll also see how this great succession plan at GM works out with the decasto. seems to be a little too much back patting going on for a group who’s better instincts moved to Philly.

  20. Has Harbaugh gotten the message about bad game management, constantly turning down field goals in tight games, and conservative bs field position game plans

  21. “Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.”

    First there is a massive shortage of competent NFL head coaches.

    Second, he’s one of the few coaches who has been able to come up with game plans that have consistently given the Pats a rough time. Of course its helpful to make the playoffs and have to face them but there were several years where the Ravens and Pats regularly played each other.

    Harbaugh is better than at least 2/3 of the head coaches currently in the league. I think the GM let him down with some of the drafts and free agents the last few years.

  22. I got the reference to “My Cousin Vinny”. Normally I don’t care for his writing but I’ll let this one slide simply because that movie is hilarious.

  23. If it hadn’t been for jump ball joe
    refs wouldn’t need those PI flags to throw
    where did you come from
    where did you go?
    where did you come from jump ball joe

  24. “Regarding Jackson here is what I don’t understand …”

    He also had an insane amount of yards on the ground.

  25. redlikethepig says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Flacco hit it big with perfect timing. But he’s a second tier QB. Hopefully the $136,000,000 he’s made so far will ease the pain. sounds A lot like were Carr is headed…

  26. Two things:

    #1 The Ravens can only “squeeze” so hard. Flacco will get paid handsomely whether its by the Raven’s or someone else.

    #2 What the h$77 did Salisbury Steak ever do to anybody??? Sure, it’s not filet mignon but Salisbury steak is a fine meal and I don’t see any reason to use it as a euphemism to describe something bland or boring. #RespectSalisburySteak

  27. When a player represents themselves and gets a below market deal, PFT always suggests they need to invest in a good agent. But when Flacco’s agent got him great deals, we blame him for it. At the end of the day, the team should have either pushed back more or evaluated him better.

  28. If Jackson plays even average, that’s already better than what Joe Flacco has produced on the field the past few years.

  29. RussianBreadMaker says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:05 am
    Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.
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    94-66 with a Superbowl win buys a lot of rope. Plus he only has 1 losing record in 10 years. All these fans that constantly want to fire hood coaches don’t know what they’re talking about. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New Orleans, Green Bay are all stable franchises that have a method for staying competitive and one input to that success is stability at the coaching ranks. If you like the Cleveland Browns method of switching coaches constantly by all means go cheer for them.

  30. I wouldn’t like needing 2 different playbooks…one for the starter and one for the backup.. Doesn’t work!

  31. Flacco drained the organization of $$ and they’ve been flooded by mediocre supporting talent ever since. Flacco will hit the pine by week 5 and this will be his last year in the NFL.

  32. The story of the last 3 years for Flacco has been injuries. Torn ACL, recovering from ACL 7 not quite fully there, then a back injury that cost all of last offseason, training camp, etc. His first snaps of the season were in Week 1 vs. Cincy.

    This season will be the first time in 3 years that he will start camp without recovering from a significant injury. Have the injuries taken their toll & reduced his ability? Time will tell, but if he can’t perform at a high level – his replacement in now in-house.

  33. First of all…tap the brakes on Jackson. I love the pick but he shouldn’t be behind center for at least 2 seasons.

    That makes RG3 the best QB currently on the roster and I predict he is starting by Week 6.

    That’s assuming the Ravens braintrust has the brains to develop Jackson from the bench.

  34. They were stupid to ever give him that much money in the first place and wait this long to groom a new QB. Now Jackson needs time to learn.

  35. harrisonhits2 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
    “Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.”

    First there is a massive shortage of competent NFL head coaches.

    Second, he’s one of the few coaches who has been able to come up with game plans that have consistently given the Pats a rough time. Of course its helpful to make the playoffs and have to face them but there were several years where the Ravens and Pats regularly played each other.

    Harbaugh is better than at least 2/3 of the head coaches currently in the league. I think the GM let him down with some of the drafts and free agents the last few years.

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    Harbaugh sucks and has gotten worse. The Rex Ryan school of “run your mouth” style coaching has a shelf life. Oh, yes it does.

    That’s the bottom line with Johnnie Whinebaugh. The guy has put more energy into cheating with Goodell and sitting on the compeititon committee, working on rule changes to tailor the sport to his preferences, which is what Polian used to do.

    You should know all of this as a Pats fan.

    Whinebaugh didn’t like it when Brady suggested he check the rule book, a conference call was had between the Ravens/Colts, and Framegate II was hatched.

    Maybe these arrogant scumbags should focus on themselves instead of trying to cheat the Pats to catch up?

  36. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Joe had an absolutely incredible post season months before he was a free agent.

    He got the timing right to be hot.

    That’s it.

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    Umm, yes, but you don’t wait to budget for your franchise QB, when 75% of the league eating up, chewing up and spitting QB prospects like Irsay chews up opioids.

    He was a soon to be FA ta the end of the 2012 season. This means he had the leverage.

    If they had budgeted for even 15 mil per ,anything above what Brady,. Brees or Manning was set to make in 2012, it would have only appeared like an overpayment that the time.

    It’s called supply and demand. Understanding basic market trends is part of the GM’s job.

    Newsome failed miserably as he did with his drafts since 2010.

    Hence, why he finally got fired. All he did was hide behind Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, and to some degree Suggs.

  37. Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.

    ____________________________

    10 Seasons as Ravens Head Coach:

    Made the playoffs in 6, winning 1 SB
    7 winning Seasons, 2 8-8 seasons, 1 losing season (2015)
    Above average defense every year except 2015, when they lost Suggs on the 1st game of the season (remember, he’s a defensive-minded coach).

    You can do much, much worse.

  38. This team lacks leadership now that Ray Lewis has retired. Suggs has failed to fill the leadership void and so has Flacco. They are beta males, the team needs an alpha in that locker room.

  39. 6thsense10 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 11:10 am
    RussianBreadMaker says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:05 am
    Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.
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    94-66 with a Superbowl win buys a lot of rope. Plus he only has 1 losing record in 10 years. All these fans that constantly want to fire hood coaches don’t know what they’re talking about. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New Orleans, Green Bay are all stable franchises that have a method for staying competitive and one input to that success is stability at the coaching ranks. If you like the Cleveland Browns method of switching coaches constantly by all means go cheer for them.

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    Keep polishing those laurels from yesteryear. That’s your other issue is your team and you as a fan gush over minor accomplishments.

    I also notice you conveniently left the Pats off your list. Why is that?

  40. harrisonhits2 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
    “Why hasn’t Harbaugh been fired? He has shown that he is just average, nothing more, nothing less.”

    First there is a massive shortage of competent NFL head coaches.

    Second, he’s one of the few coaches who has been able to come up with game plans that have consistently given the Pats a rough time. Of course its helpful to make the playoffs and have to face them but there were several years where the Ravens and Pats regularly played each other.

    Harbaugh is better than at least 2/3 of the head coaches currently in the league. I think the GM let him down with some of the drafts and free agents the last few years.

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    A healthy Pats team has been putting up 30 points per game on Baltimore since 2012.

    Sorry, but beating a rebuilding Welker-less Pats 10 years ago is a laurel that simply is not that impressive.

    Ozzie’s drafts since 2010 have been poor. Harbaugh is overrated. He coasted with innherited HOFers on D and then caught NE at their weakest point transitioning away from the old guard in 2009.

    Sure, their 2012 win in Foxborough is to be commended, but that’s really been it for them.

    They got torched in the 2014 divisonal rd game, which led to Framegate II in conjunction with Indy and their cheating ways, authorized by Goodell.

  41. If it took drafting Jackson for Flacco to “get the message” then either he wasn’t listening or his coaches weren’t being clear enough. He never really felt threatened before. What happens next is up to him. Play hard enough to hold on to you job this year and maybe a few more years here or somewhere else or decide to turtle up and walk away. Either way lets go and get it done.

  42. Fortunately Harbaugh coaches in the cream-puff AFC North….it won’t take much to win that division. In fact, over the past 10 years I believe the Ravens are the only team to even beat the Pats or give them a competitive game on a regular basis. Of the four coaches in the division, Harbaugh is easily the best.

  43. Well, Florio, this is the downside to players “squeezing” teams. I know your position-take all the money you possibly can-but players have to keep performing at the highest possible level to convince the team that they’re worth that max deal, and more importantly, they hurt themselves because the team cannot afford more expensive players to complement them.

    There are only a handful of guys who can get a max deal and justify it, in the eyes of public opinion, for five or so years. And you don’t even necessarily have to be bad to have the public turn on you. Flacco may not be the top flight QB they considered him to be when he got that contract, but if we really think he and he alone is the reason the Ravens have struggled, we’re kidding ourselves. At the same time, he demanded (and recieved) massive compensation that he hasn’t justified. If he were smart, he would play hish eart out this year, restructure his deal, get a couple of more seasons out of Baltimore before seeing if someone else will give him a shot. Their heart is set on Jackson, but Flacco has the ability to play at a top third or fourth in the league kind of level (as he showed in that postseason in their SB run), and now there are a few more pieces for him to work with-especially Hayden Hurst, considering how he always plays his best with receiving TEs-and a semblance of a run game with Alex Collins. This is his last real shot to be a franchise guy for a more years.

  44. Getting the message doesn’t translate to becoming a good football player at this point in his career. Never was worth the $, as a non-ravens fan I’m rooting for Lamar Jackson to succeed.

  45. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Joe had an absolutely incredible post season months before he was a free agent.

    He got the timing right to be hot.

    That’s it.
    ________________________________

    Actually, it was Anquan Boldin that had that amazing off-season. He caught every jump ball thrown his way for 4 games (and was rewarded by being released in the off-season).

    Joe was never the same without Anquan to bail him out.

  46. I wouldn’t blame management for playing hardball with Flacco’s representatives but I always feel differently when the player has previously given a hometown discount.

  47. Fire Harbaugh and replace him with which pathetic retread – Jeff Fisher or Rex Ryan? How about some of the great college coaches like Steve Spurrier or Nick Saban…

  48. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:

    May 7, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Joe had an absolutely incredible post season months before he was a free agent.

    He got the timing right to be hot.

    That’s it.
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    Flacco-led teams made the playoffs 4 years straight before the Superbowl win, and got to the AFC championship game twice during that time. Not a one hit wonder.

  49. jonathankrobinson424 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    ….it really doesnt matter WHO is under center this year because I can’t NAME ONE WR the Ravens have.
    ……………………………………………………………………………..

    Never heard of Micheal Crabtree….hmmmm

  50. haha these new QB’s aren’t under center… they are running the read option over and over and over… then they are shut DOWN!!!!

  51. “He knows that the team is reacting to a “boring” Salisbury Steak and steamed spuds offense that “excite[s] no one.””

    So Flacco is the offensive coordinator and the quarterback? Wow! That’s a lot to expect from one guy.

  52. That 10-6 (2012) season preceding their Super Bowl win thanks to Dean Pees, Teryl Austin and Mistah Ray Lewis & Co. has not been repeated since.
    That SB was kray-kray (crazy) due to Harbaugh Bro. vs. Harbaugh Bro.; Kaepernick/Crabtree/Vernon Davis/Delaney Walker/Frank Gore et al.

    On paper, the 49’ers were better on offense thank whacko-Flacco & Co., but Ravens D got the job done.

    Without the former, stellar D coaches and Ray Lewis, Flacco is just, pardon the pun: an “average Joe”

  53. To PFT. Stop acting like you know what the RAVENS are going to do. You don’t.
    To all the FLACCO and HARBAUGH haters. Most of you hate to hate and have no reasonable arguments. Stop complaining about the past. If you are a true Ravens fan, you can only hope that Joe and John have a great year and Lamar can have time to develop before taking over the reigns.

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