Tramon Williams: NFL caught up with Green Bay’s defense

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The Packers finally moved on from defensive coordinator Dom Capers. Some would say it came too late. Some who would say that play for the team.

“I was here in the era when Dom first came in. When he first came in, the defense was modern era and obviously, the league caught up to it,” cornerback Truman Williams told ESPN Milwaukee, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. “You have to make certain adjustments and over the years those adjustments weren’t made.”

Williams also praised Capers’ replacement, former Browns coach (and successful defensive coordinator) Mike Pettine.

“Mike is a really big addition,” Williams said. “Obviously, I think a new scheme and look to this defense is what we really needed. To bring him in, a guy whose defense has performed at a high level pretty much everywhere he has went. . . . From the Jets to Baltimore, even in Cleveland we had a really great defense.”

Williams spent 2015 in Cleveland with Pettine, and Williams spent 2017 with Arizona. He has since returned to the Packers. And now the question is whether the Packers will return to greatness with a new defense.

39 responses to “Tramon Williams: NFL caught up with Green Bay’s defense

  1. I’ve also heard that water is wet!

    Capers should have been fired years ago. How a guy can keep his job for so long when 3rd and 15 is a guaranteed first down for the offense due to dropping all DBs in a soft zone about 20 yards back is beyond me.

  2. Hanging on to Capers too long is a perfect example of how the continuity that the Packer organization cherishes clouded their judgement.

  3. New coordinator will help but they need more talent on that side of the ball. Outside of Daniels and Matthews there isn’t a player any team worries about on that side of the ball. Clark is starting to look like one of those players as well. They have burnt first or second picks on the secondary for years with little to show for it. Capers holds some of the blame but so does everyone else.

  4. Packers and Cardinals will both win more games than they did last year, and the Vikings will regress as everything returns back to the mean.

  5. The addition of Dom Capers to the coaching staff was extremely significant and played an integral part in propelling Green Bay to their last Championship.

    Obviously, I agree with most on here that the Defense was getting stale under him and a change was definitely needed.
    Hopefully Mike Pettine’s scheme can pay similar dividends and jumpstart this defense back into Championship form.

  6. “From the Jets to Baltimore, even in Cleveland we had a really great defense.”
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    Um, he needs to check the stats. The GB defense outranked Cleveland both years he was there. Pettine’s defense was ranked 29th in 2015 while GB was 12th. Same in 2016 – Cleveland was 30th while GB was 21st.

  7. 2 rookie starting corners and that whole secondary is new basically. Packers are a team on the decline. Minnesota will be the team to beat in the NFC north now. And the Packers have to pay Aaron Rodgers so I guess it will time to have a stock sale soon. Such BS that they are allowed to print their own money.

  8. Capers had to go. Sometimes a coach can be good but stays in one place too long. I feel the same about McCarthy.

  9. I’m not sure if it’s completely Caper’s fault, some of it probably is. I think some teams are just better at evaluating talent at certain areas. The Packers are good at evaluating offense, The Vikings are good at evaluating Defense. I think that’s most of the reason the Packers defense hasn’t been good.

  10. Pettine is an upgrade.
    But whoever feared Green Bay’s defense?? Not sure what it ever had to be caught up to.

  11. The addition of Dom Capers to the coaching staff was extremely significant and played an integral part in propelling Green Bay to their last Championship.

    Obviously, I agree with most on here that the Defense was getting stale under him and a change was definitely needed.
    Hopefully Mike Pettine’s scheme can pay similar dividends and jumpstart this defense back into Championship form.

  12. Yeah, a new scheme is going to change everything and the fact that the defense sucked has nothing to do with personal. 😝
    Don’t care how good Petine is he can’t turn garbage into a competent defense. Drafting 3 WRs doesn’t help at all either but at least they are not slight.

  13. I agree with what Tramon is saying but I also look at the roster on the defensive side of the football and can’t help but think Capers didn’t really have a lot to work with. Teddy T consistently loaded the depth of the roster with undrafted free agents and Capers a lot of the time had to rely on very young inexperienced players.

    Capers is a good defensive mind. I actually think the hiring of Pettine was a good one. And Gutekunst had IMO a pretty damn good draft for his 1st in charge.

    GB secondary has a chance to be special in a few years.

  14. He’s right. The first few years of Capers’ tenure, GB’s defense was lights out. They were ball hawks who could disrupt the quarterback. However that’s only half the story. Age caught up with the marquee players they had during the Super Bowl and Ted Thompson got even more stingy with bringing in any high-profile free agents and drafting quality defensive players. He was notoriously against signing big name free agents that would help the team because he was cheap and his ability to draft defensive backfield players is legendarily terrible in the last ten years of his job.

    They’re my team and that’s the thing I both love and hate about them. They will stand by a player or coach through thick and thin for the long term. It has both helped (i.e. not cutting Crosby or Davante several years back) and hurt them (i.e. keeping Thompson and Capers WAY too long).

    High time they made these changes, but McCarthy better be watching his back because one more season like last year and he’s gonzo.

  15. edukator4 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:26 am
    the league caught up to it? ya, in the first season. dom capers defenses were so overrated in green bay.
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    cobrala2 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 11:24 am
    Pettine is an upgrade.
    But whoever feared Green Bay’s defense?? Not sure what it ever had to be caught up to.

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    I understand that these are just a couple of knee jerk, dopey responses, designed to get a rise out of a few people, but they are both patently wrong.
    When Mike McCarthy mercifully ended Bob Sanders lackluster defensive reign in 2008, many felt Green Bay didn’t have the players to compete on that side of the ball either.

    Capers took over and lifted what was a lathargic unit ranked 22nd the previous season and propelled them all the way to 7th in 2009 and then up to 2nd overall in 2010 which helped lead them to the Super Bowl win that February.
    He also inspired his players into creating more turnovers than in previous seasons jumping all the way up to #1 in 2009 and #6 in 2010.

    Capers’ D took a complete nosedive of historic proportions the following season.
    And though there would be improvement throughout the years, (It was never quite as bleak as 2011, or as some posters on here would have you believe) it was just never going to get back to it’s early success.
    I think it became clear that some new blood, new ideas were required.

    So obviously, change can be a good thing. Sometimes.
    Whether or not it will be effective here remains to be seen.
    But what’s become painfully clear the last few seasons, it certainly can’t hurt.

  16. TheDotardinChief says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Packers and Cardinals will both win more games than they did last year, and the Vikings will regress as everything returns back to the mean.
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    That’s most likely true, but the Vikings will still be 12-4 or 11-5 while the Packers jump up to 10-6 at best.

  17. BuckyBadger says:

    New coordinator will help but they need more talent on that side of the ball. Outside of Daniels and Matthews there isn’t a player any team worries about on that side of the ball.
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    Bucky

    With all due respect, Daniels is a solid player. Mathews was, but no longer is a significant threat with any consistency.

  18. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 7, 2018 at 12:12 pm
    Way to throw your excoach under the bus Packers. I guess that is the way they do things in Green Bay.
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    When do the Viking unveil the bronze statues of Tice, Childress, Frazier, and Turner?

  19. What I’ve always wanted to know;

    What role did Dom play in the Draft process?

    They CLEARLY did build with the same types of players that the Steelers/Ravens/Patriots built their 3-4s with. It seemed like they were trying to reinvent the wheel, and it was painfully obvious it wasn’t working.

    … and how in the blue h@ll did they whif so badly on Hayward and Hyde? They moved on, and both are All-Pro’s. At positions where the Packers are absolutely devoid of playmakers.

    Just painful.

  20. Good ole Dial-A-Dom and the zone blitz.

    Intelligent Packer fans knew his run was over in 2012, the Dementia Ridden GM obviously didn’t.

    Thanks can only get better without the hairpiece falling asleep in the booth.

  21. TheDotardinChief says:
    May 7, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Packers and Cardinals will both win more games than they did last year, and the Vikings will regress as everything returns back to the mean.
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    Ok calm down there Stuart Smalley.

  22. Being a Viking fan the pack hanging onto Capers was great. I fully expect the pack defense to start getting better. Is it to late? They picked a couple of solid DBs in the first two rounds but it’s going to take time for them to develop. My hope is that Rodgers will be gone before the D gets better.

  23. aarons444 says:
    May 7, 2018 at 1:55 pm
    What I’ve always wanted to know;

    What role did Dom play in the Draft process?

    They CLEARLY did build with the same types of players that the Steelers/Ravens/Patriots built their 3-4s with. It seemed like they were trying to reinvent the wheel, and it was painfully obvious it wasn’t working.

    … and how in the blue h@ll did they whif so badly on Hayward and Hyde? They moved on, and both are All-Pro’s. At positions where the Packers are absolutely devoid of playmakers.

    Just painful.

    The Packers had just given Sam Shields a huge contract and drafted Randall and Rollins, who both showed flashes their rookie years. Then Sam got the career ending injury and the two young guys never got on track. I supported not signing Hayward, but Murphy’s law really bit the secondary the next season in so many ways it was ridiculous.

    As for Hyde, the Packers were trying to get faster in the secondary. Hyde, while assignment sure and football smart, is rather slow. I wanted to keep Hyde at the time. Then when I saw the contract he got, I’m glad we let him go. Now I wish we had him again.

  24. Does the defense even matter? Green Bay’s success is tied to how many Hail Mary’s Aaron can throw.
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    Close.

    Free plays when undisciplined defenders jump offsides.

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  26. stellarperformance says:

    May 7, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    cheeseisfattening says:
    May 7, 2018 at 12:12 pm
    Way to throw your excoach under the bus Packers. I guess that is the way they do things in Green Bay.
    ///////////////////

    When do the Viking unveil the bronze statues of Tice, Childress, Frazier, and Turner?

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    I don’t know many Vikings fans who liked any of those guys in retrospect and at the time they were hear.

    Frazier was always a bad coach, same with Tice and Turner. Childress we all knew only had success because of Brett Favre being around.

    Kind of like how we think McCarthy only has success because of Rodgers. and

  27. ajzinnecker says:
    May 8, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Frazier was always a bad coach, same with Tice and Turner. Childress we all knew only had success because of Brett Favre being around.
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    I am shocked that despite the incredible, chess-playing front office they have up there at that world class organization in Minnesota, they would somehow make so many bad hires consecutively.

  28. packertruth says:

    I am shocked that despite the incredible, chess-playing front office they have up there at that world class organization in Minnesota, they would somehow make so many bad hires consecutively.
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    Red McCombs was responsible for the majority of those referenced HC’s.

  29. The very first season Pettine took over the Jets went from 19th to 1st. Pettine and the defense are going to be surprising people this year.

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