Texas police search records for copy of police report in Patricia case

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With Lions coach Matt Patricia vowing on Thursday to “clear my name” but with no specifics provided in order to come to the detached, unbiased conclusion that Patricia was falsely accused of aggravated sexual assault in 1996, reporters will now attempt to fill in the gaps by uncovering forgotten or previously unknown facts. The process already has begun.

According to Tresa Baldas of the Detroit Free Press, police in South Padre Island, Texas have begun searching files in storage manually in an effort to locate a paper copy of the police report.

Currently available documents, per Baldas, show that the alleged victim received treatment on the evening of the alleged incident at Valley Regional Medical Center in Brownsville, Texas. Matt Patricia and Greg Dietrich were arrested that same night, and they were indicted by a grand jury four months later.

The case was due to go to trial on October 21, 1997. The prosecution’s witnesses included (beyond the alleged victim) a nurse, a doctor, a police detective, a police officer, and a friend of the alleged victim. Obviously, however, prosecutors did not believe that a conviction could have been obtained without the testimony of the alleged victim, who chose not to testify, citing the stress of a trial.

The Free Press reports that, although a medical examination occurred of the alleged victim, it’s unknown whether DNA samples were obtained from the defendants.

The search for more facts will continue, with the key question being whether the alleged victim will choose to tell her story now, and then whether her story seems credible and persuasive. If that happens, Patricia may have to do something more than generally state that he is innocent.

Again, he may be. Absent proof to the contrary, he’s entitled to the presumption of innocence and the benefit of the doubt. But if there’s contrary proof, professional journalists will be looking for it.

And that’s really what journalism in sports is, or at least should be. The vast majority of the “reports” that emerge every single day amount to advance notice (often as brief as a matter of minutes) of a transaction that is about to be announced by a team or the league office. True journalism entails finding out things that otherwise aren’t known, and won’t be.

Although Lions receiver Golden Tate has objected to the fact that the 22-year-old incident has become a story, Patricia is a public figure whose life is and will be, to a certain extent, an open book. A criminal prosecution for felony sexual assault is a matter of public record, no different (but much more serious) than property transactions, divorce paperwork, and death certificates.

The fact that the Lions didn’t know about the incident before hiring Patricia creates added interest, and his decision to address the situation publicly with a general denial but no specifics opens the door to a search for more.

If it’s a false accusation, Patricia actually should welcome the opportunity for the facts to come out now. “While I’m thankful on one level that the process worked and the case was dismissed, at the same time I was never given the opportunity to defend myself or to allow to push back with the truth to clear my name,” Patricia said Thursday.

Professing innocence into a vacuum of facts doesn’t clear anyone’s name. Proof does. The search for specific proof continues, in part because Patricia and the Lions have declined so far to provide any.

93 responses to “Texas police search records for copy of police report in Patricia case

  1. charger383 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    charges dismissed shows a weaker case than a trial and not guilty

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    Not true. In any criminal case, the testimony of the victim(s) is central to the case. If the victim chooses not to testify (which she chose not to) then your case collapses! No D/A in his/her right mind will go ahead and attempt to try a case without that testimony.

  2. Here’s the thing Florio-I’ve seen these articles many, many times on players being accused of sexual assault or domestic violence or a similar crime. I’ve seen them on this site, amongst others. And the point that you’re making-that innocence should be presumed in the absence of proof of an accusation, or that the accused at the very least should have the right to be cleared if he is innocent-never once comes up. This is the first time I’ve gotten the impression from reading the article that the accused actually deserves to be heard as much as the accuser.

    My point is this: every time a player or whomever is merely accused of sexual crimes or domestic crimes, these articles always end up being about the NFL’s stance on punishing players. They’re NEVER like this, offering a clear and concise argument for allowing the accused to stand up for himself. We sit here and rant and rage about the NFL’s inadequacy, how it needs to take a stand, how all NFL players get away with everything…and then, all of a sudden, someone like Ezekiel Elliot (who is at best innocent, and at worst unjustly punished) is handed a harsh sentence because the NFL hears all the bad press it’s getting for NOT jumping to conclusions quickly enough. The article above is true for everyone who is accused of a crime, especially one as serious as this. Why not write it more often? Why not extend the right of self defense to everyone? Maybe if this was the response instead of soap box pontificating that we see every time an accusation occurs, the NFL would be under less pressure to be the judge and jury it so desperately tries (and fails) to be.

  3. I don’t get the point here. So the Lions didn’t know about it and didn’t “uncover” this before hiring him……so what even if they did? Am i to understand that NOT being tried for a charge 22 years ago means he shouldn’t ever be allowed to have a job? That he doesn’t deserve to coach football? Why is there no “heat” on New England for employing him all those years if that’s the case? Why don’t we just skip all this employment debate and just lock him up because of unproven accusations from half a lifetime ago? That’s what we want here, right? To forget the whole “innocent until proven guilty” concept and just go straight to “you’re guilty because we assume so”? Cast him out from society because we THINK there’s a CHANCE he MIGHT have been involved in something to some unknown degree?

    Come on. This is just ridiculous. If the case is re-opened, and there’s evidence to prosecute him for anything, let’s talk then. But if that’s not happening, and we’re all just sitting here operating on assumptions and contrived outrage for the purpose of achieving false self righteousness, then let’s just shut up and let the guy do his job. This feels a little pathetic.

  4. How do you prove you didn’t rape someone, absent a valid excuse that you weren’t even there, but somewhere else. It will come down to a he said/she said. OR Matt says, I didn’t do anything, it was my friend. I left and he must have done something. But that only works if, again, he can prove he left early. I don’t know how you prove your innocence in these types of cases, especially if it may have been a consensual sexual interaction that later is decided to have not been. These cases are difficult for so many reasons.

  5. Good reporting. I think he eventually resigns, probably best for lions to severe ties and pay him out. Grand jury heard multiple people. Clearly something happen. Good stuff Florio

  6. “The case was due to go to trial on October 21, 1997. The prosecution’s witnesses included (beyond the alleged victim) a nurse, a doctor, a police detective, a police officer, and a friend of the alleged victim. ” Checkmate! Good Stuff Florio!! Patricia Done

  7. Why aren’t journalists out trying to find this woman and forcing her to go public with her story. it’s more than likely that she was the one responsible for hiring the private investigators who alerted the Detroit News about this story. This woman needs to be “outed” and forced into the public. Why should she remain private while Patricia is having his life turned upside down?

  8. You know what , there is an upside to being a boring do nothing slob like I am. Because if I did that 25 years ago at spring break, nobody , and I mean nobody is digging through old records trying to find it. But there are more than one type of justice in this country. Official justice and , then the trial by media which are completely two different things.

  9. What’s the big deal? Any job that one applies, most ask the question: Have you EVER been arrested or charged if any crime? If if no conviction, please state final disposition. That’s a basic job application, do NFL football coaches have an exemption to such questions?

  10. So you had a nurse, a doctor, a police detective and a police officer that where involved in this and were ready to testify for the prosecution? To believe Patricia innocent would mean that all four of those people were gullible or liars.

  11. This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen. No trial, no conviction means no nothing. Let the poor guy be a coach and move on.

  12. largecapgrowth
    May 12, 2018, 5:02 PM EDT
    “The case was due to go to trial on October 21, 1997. The prosecution’s witnesses included (beyond the alleged victim) a nurse, a doctor, a police detective, a police officer, and a friend of the alleged victim. ” Checkmate! Good Stuff Florio!! Patricia Done
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    All sexual assault cases have a Doctor, Police Officer, a nurse, detective. Not means absolutely nothing as far as guilt. Whether they help the prosecution or not, they always testify. Police officer took the initial statement, detective did the investigation, nurse completed the rape kit, doctor testified to any possible trauma (whether there is or isn’t). Also to the other poster stating with the victim testifying the prosecution will never go to trial. That is incorrect. If there is enough physical evidence (photographic injuries/testimony, DNA, statements made by the victim to another party). The prosecution has enough. Nothing the media has released is shocking and very standard of any sexual assault investigation. This case is going nowhere and the media is victimizing both parties and their families continuously digging for OLD information. Anyone give a thought that maybe this isn’t a case of Rape but Regret, once she had time to think about the gravity of her claims. Happens quite frequently.

  13. “If it’s a false accusation, Patricia actually should welcome the opportunity for the facts to come out now.”

    LMAO….if you’re a male (esp. a white male) in a position of power in today’s world there is NO SUCH THING as a “false accusation”…you are automatically believed guilty and even if it turns out to be false still tarnished by the accusations. Don’t know about all of you but I can’t remember details of stuff in my life 6 months ago….20+ years???!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

  14. jlgmr777 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    charger383 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    charges dismissed shows a weaker case than a trial and not guilty

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    Not true. In any criminal case, the testimony of the victim(s) is central to the case. If the victim chooses not to testify (which she chose not to) then your case collapses! No D/A in his/her right mind will go ahead and attempt to try a case without that testimony.

    Just what I said, a weaker case, could not take to trial. Did not waste court’s time

  15. Professing innocence into a vacuum of facts doesn’t clear anyone’s name. Proof does. The search for specific proof continues, in part because Patricia and the Lions have declined so far to provide any.
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    The burden of proof lays with the victim. The defense has their chance to refute that evidence in a court of law. The court case never happened so it ends there. A grand jury indictment and a police report isn’t proof of anything in our justice system. Only statements under oath in front of a judge and jury counts. Patricia doesn’t owe the Lions, the media and the public anything about a court case that never happened.

  16. I am so happy ive never amounted to anything in life so I don’t have to worry about some vulture reporter combing public records in order to unearth something that may have happened half my life ago. The same vultures are now going to hunt this young lady down, corner her at the grocery store, thrust a microphone in her face and aske her to comment.

  17. It was nearly impossible to convict a white male of a sexual crime in the 90s. This stuff happened regularly while I was in college. Glad this is getting better. Something obviously happened that night 22 years ago. What exactly we will probably never know.

  18. charger383
    May 12, 2018, 5:19 PM EDT
    jlgmr777 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    charger383 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    charges dismissed shows a weaker case than a trial and not guilty

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    Not true. In any criminal case, the testimony of the victim(s) is central to the case. If the victim chooses not to testify (which she chose not to) then your case collapses! No D/A in his/her right mind will go ahead and attempt to try a case without that testimony.

    Just what I said, a weaker case, could not take to trial. Did not waste court’s time
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    What also shows it’s a weaker case, the prosecution could have forced the victim to testify by requesting a witness detainer from the judge. If she continued to not cooperate, she would be charged with obstruction of justice and jailed until she testified. This happens quite frequently, victim or not.

  19. How is Patricia is a public figure?
    What is the definition of a ‘public figure’ other than ‘anything I want it to mean’?
    He has a higher paying job than I do, is that the definition of a public figure?
    My managers manager makes good money. None of you have ever heard his name.
    Is he a public figure?

  20. Matt’s response should have been”What’s your point?” and subsequent questions answered with “So what”

  21. fanfrommontreal
    May 12, 2018, 5:14 PM EDT
    So you had a nurse, a doctor, a police detective and a police officer that where involved in this and were ready to testify for the prosecution? To believe Patricia innocent would mean that all four of those people were gullible or liars.
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    They all testify in all sexual assault cases, whether they Benefit the prosecution or not. This means absolutely nothing. They testify to observations, actions, processes, and statements taken. Nothing more nothing less.

  22. He’s already been convicted in the forum of public opinion, whether he’s done anything or not. The #Me too crowd has the coach notch on their belts with Patricia and they won’t let up even if nothing else happens now. This is over for Patricia.

  23. charger383 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    charges dismissed shows a weaker case than a trial and not guilty

    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Not true. In any criminal case, the testimony of the victim(s) is central to the case. If the victim chooses not to testify (which she chose not to) then your case collapses! No D/A in his/her right mind will go ahead and attempt to try a case without that testimony.

    Just what I said, a weaker case, could not take to trial. Did not waste court’s time

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    OK, we can agree on that. However it doesn’t address the overall them of this article, which is; was a crime committed? To be be honest, it looks like it’s about 50-50. We just just can’t dismiss the allegation because it’s a sports personality or an affiliate of our favorite league or team. What would the comments be on this board if this were our wife, daughter, mother, cousin, niece, etc? We just can’t dismiss this because it happened in 1996 and never went to trial!

  24. Roarrestored753 said:

    They all testify in all sexual assault cases, whether they Benefit the prosecution or not. This means absolutely nothing. They testify to observations, actions, processes, and statements taken. Nothing more nothing less.
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    If the nurse, doctor, police detective and police officer involved with the situation would have found nothing indicating rape the prosecution would not have moved on for a trial.

  25. Goodell dug all this up because he’s still upset about the clown nose shirt Patricia wore.

  26. From all indications Patricia has been nothing but a fine member of society for the last 21 years. Absent of any other allegations since the one that didnt go to trial, I say he gets the benefit of the doubt. We should probably all just stop clicking on these stories, but I know that wont happen.

  27. fanfrommontreal
    May 12, 2018, 5:52 PM EDT
    Roarrestored753 said:

    They all testify in all sexual assault cases, whether they Benefit the prosecution or not. This means absolutely nothing. They testify to observations, actions, processes, and statements taken. Nothing more nothing less.
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    If the nurse, doctor, police detective and police officer involved with the situation would have found nothing indicating rape the prosecution would not have moved on for a trial.
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    It’s not whether they find anything. The officer testified to the victims demeanor, injuries observed, and statement taken from victim and maybe the roommate. The nurse testified to the rape kit collected. The detective testifies to the entire investigation and findings and the re-interview of the victim and interrogation or the offenders. If the had the victim and roommates testimony and nurse to testify to any trauma and/or DNA obtained they would go to trial. You don’t know if one of them had something or all of them. What’s telling is, without the victim they dropped the case. Meaning the findings in the investigation wasn’t enough by itself to convict.

  28. charger383 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm
    charges dismissed shows a weaker case than a trial and not guilty

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    They were dismissed because the alleged victim did not show up at the hearing. Maybe she was just not willing to be dragged through the mud as victims of sex crimes so often are.

  29. Just wait until the random former Patriot employees or other women start coming forward with incidents. All of the people swearing they knew he was innocent based on his word are going to look pretty stupid, which is why hiding this in his interviewing process did the Lions no favors because now they’re praying that doesn’t happen. If it does,and something tells me it will, then what?

  30. They were dismissed because the alleged victim did not show up at the hearing. Maybe she was just not willing to be dragged through the mud as victims of sex crimes so often are.

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    Then she is part of the problem. If she doesn’t want her name dragged through the mud, why would that be? If she simply didn’t want to relive everything, and this legit Happened, she is doing a disservice to people of sexual assault and rape.
    If he did actually assault her, I hope he pays, truly. But isn’t it possible that she didn’t want to go through the courts to be found out she’s a fraud? That she had consentual sex and regret later?
    How is it that when he was with NE it never came out.
    As far as I’m concerned, this is a non story until it can be proven that he did assault her.
    She should have done the right thing the first time. I feel sickened that any guy would do that to a women but I have no sympathy when you let it go then rehash it years later.

  31. I don’t know why you need a police report. I’ve been involved in a dozen rape cases that were indicted, convicted, took a plea or a diversion program (minor). Never had a victim walk away and never lost one of those cases.

    I can recall, in detail, each case. And I worked for an inner city PD and we handled 30 radio runs a night, plus hearing shots fired, backing up others, being flagged down and stopping cars.

    For the never ending curious, go ask the cops. You have two. An indicted rape case from 22 years ago is easier to remember than what I had for breakfast last week.

    I’m sure someone will find them and ask.

    Personally, my answer would be: “I did my job and the girl did not testify, end of story”. I would want to protect my life, family and rep and what I have to say is irrelevant, anyway. The girl did not testify. End of story. Sorry but not guilty will always be not guilty, regardless of guilt.

  32. When you come from the Patriots lying is ingrained in you, belichick lied, brady lied, hernandez lied, kraft lied, nonkovich lied, the deflator lied, the foxboro police ( hen chandler jones was paradingmthrough the parking lot nude) lied, they all lie. So you also need to take anything patricia says with a grain of salt also.

  33. mackcarrington says:
    May 12, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    Why aren’t journalists out trying to find this woman and forcing her to go public with her story. it’s more than likely that she was the one responsible for hiring the private investigators who alerted the Detroit N
    she remain private while Patricia is having his life turned upside down?

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    So your idea is to out the alleged victim because you don’t believe her story? If she was your daughter, would you want his to happen to her?

  34. If I read correctly Texas has a ten year statute on rape.

    Women need to be educated on how to change me forward and protections out I place. This needs to be accepted so there is no fear.

    Also the women that lie should face equal punishment.

  35. It’s sad how long the Patriots were able to hide this from the public. One of the biggest cover-ups in NE, outside of AHern’s side job.

  36. It’s nice to see a lot of people here concerned with Matt Patricia’s due process rights. I agree. I hope we all remember to afford the same rights to others in our public discourse inside or outside of sports.

  37. If the Port Isabel police force has the nerve to ever whine to the public about needing more employees, hopefully someone will point out they had enough manpower to waste time digging up records from 20+ years ago about a case that was dismissed just so they could participate in a popular public lynching. What difference does it make what the details were? The case was dismissed. He was not brought to trial. But considering the internet lynch mob mentality that now exists why don’t we just convict him? Who really needs details. He was accused after all. He must be guilty.

  38. sllabskcustfpk says:
    May 12, 2018 at 6:56 pm
    mackcarrington says:
    May 12, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    Why aren’t journalists out trying to find this woman and forcing her to go public with her story. it’s more than likely that she was the one responsible for hiring the private investigators who alerted the Detroit N
    she remain private while Patricia is having his life turned upside down?
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    You’ve read something completely different from what I said.
    First, NOWHERE did I say I didn’t believe her story. I don’t know how you read that.
    And the “what aboutism”” is totally irrelevant. That doesn’t make any sense to me.
    What I’m trying to say is since this has been brought out after all this time, why doesn’t this woman come forward and tell her side of the story.
    And it’s my belief, and only a belief that either this woman or her family is responsible for this being dragged up now. Someone hired a private investigator to uncover this story. Who and why do you think that is?
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    So your idea is to out the alleged victim because you don’t believe her story? If she was your daughter, would you want his to happen to her?

  39. These cases irritate me. She had the ability to seek justice and chose not to. There is no new evidence that was overlooked or anything like that. Now, Patricia got a high profile job and the old allegation hits the front page. My question is who sought the story. Was it an innocent reporter just checking up on the new coach in his home town or was it someone affiliated with the alleged victim? If the statute of limitations prevents further legal proceedings then it is simply a smear campaign IF it was initiated by the victim. The political/social media climate should not impact any decisions by the Lions or the NFL. Unfortunately the SJWs or anyone with an agenda know they can manipulate the narrative and get what they want whether it is deserved or even accurate.

  40. Complete BS. Statute of limitation expired 10 YEARS ago. Whatever is asked, answered, discovered, guessed about it, etc. is utterly irrelevant.

  41. Why? What possible good can come from it? Have a trial via social media and the regular media to boot? If the girl didn’t want to go through this in a tiny Texas town courtroom, imagine what she has to brace herself for now! What a joke.

  42. Not looking good for the overrated defensive coordinator that almost got lucky to have Quinn desperately bring this scumbag. Patricia had excellent scouting and top tier management in New England. He went from the elite to novice of football teams. Now he finds himself with a horrible skeleton revealed from his closet and on coaching the Browns of the NFC. Good luck with that.

  43. Its Trump’s fault. This dig dig dig game has been put into hyperwarp speed since he took office. People are now looking up their neighbors life history and confronting them about same stuff like they deserve an explanation for 10-20 year old situations.

  44. FinFan68 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 7:52 pm
    These cases irritate me. She had the ability to seek justice and chose not to. There is no new evidence that was overlooked or anything like that. Now, Patricia got a high profile job and the old allegation hits the front page. My question is who sought the story. Was it an innocent reporter just checking up on the new coach in his home town or was it someone affiliated with the alleged victim? If the statute of limitations prevents further legal proceedings then it is simply a smear campaign IF it was initiated by the victim. The political/social media climate should not impact any decisions by the Lions or the NFL. Unfortunately the SJWs or anyone with an agenda know they can manipulate the narrative and get what they want whether it is deserved or even accurate

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    So your saying it was okay for Patrick and his drunk friends to attack and sexually abuse a young lady.

  45. goodell’s article 46 reaches far and wide. it appears pretty obvious he is behind this as revenge for the clowndell shirt. Rumor was, he was incensed by it.

    Goodell is sick. Very sick.

  46. It sounds like the prosecution had witnesses and enough to go to trial until the girl decided that she couldn’t handle the stress of it. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Patricia did anything illegal,but it doesn’t prove his innocence ,either. Maybe disclosing this to his employers or prospective employers would have been better than spending 22 years waiting for it to come back and bite him. He also needs to stop blaming the media. It’s public record. Anyone could have dug it up.

  47. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    May 12, 2018 at 7:17 pm

    It’s sad how long the Patriots were able to hide this from the public. One of the biggest cover-ups in NE, outside of AHern’s side job.

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    The Patriots were not aware of this. How could they hide something that they didn’t know about?

  48. When a young woman goes to the hospital, and nurses and cops line up to testify, that tells me something the young lady didn’t want to have happen went down.Not a good look.

  49. Just because the police, nurse, and doctor were scheduled to testify doesn’t mean that they know something. They could be on the witness list to just reiterate what they were told and how they responded, what they saw, etc.

  50. vontazemebro
    May 12, 2018, 9:50 PM EDT
    When a young woman goes to the hospital, and nurses and cops line up to testify, that tells me something the young lady didn’t want to have happen went down.Not a good look.
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    They are subpoenaed witnesses regardless if there testimony it helps or hurts the case the case. They are standard witnesses for all sexual assault cases. It means absolutely nothing.

  51. gauchosporlife says:
    May 12, 2018 at 5:08 pm
    What’s the big deal? Any job that one applies, most ask the question: Have you EVER been arrested or charged if any crime? If if no conviction, please state final disposition. That’s a basic job application, do NFL football coaches have an exemption to such questions?
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    Actually in most states it does NOT ask that. At best it asks about convictions, in Massachusetts, you can’t even ask about that until later in the process.

  52. In the era of Trump, we must believe women more than ever. He appears guilty, and she shoul sue him for everything he has, given her emotional injuries have never stopped.

  53. tim2200 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 5:12 pm
    This is so ridiculous. Trial by media is worse than any courtroom.

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    No a woman trying to get justice in the 90s is far worse.

  54. Until the whole evidence is public and there is clear proof of crime, I will believe he was innocent. Eye witness can often be wrong.

  55. “Professing innocence into a vacuum of facts doesn’t clear anyone’s name. Proof does. The search for specific proof continues, in part because Patricia and the Lions have declined so far to provide any.”

    Once you were able to choose trial by judge or jury with a right to a legal defense but now it appears you only get to be tried by the modern inquistion of social media that decides what is and is not proof.

  56. In her mind, one drunken night at South Padre Island, she may truly believe something inappropriate happened. That doesn’t mean it happened. Just because it’s real to her doesn’t make it real, particularly in those circumstances. If she truly had a case, but was afraid of the stress of a trial, I would think that in this day and age, she might be more than happy to come out with it, so at this point nothing can really be proven. If she didn’t have a case, she will likely want this to remain quiet. The desire for her 15 minutes of fame now that the bloom is likely well off her Rose, may be too tempting for her to pass up, with you know, book money and all. She may be looking for Gloria Allred’s number right now.

  57. Yes don’t think that these witnesses were around when the alleged act took place. They were involved as professionals. I don’t want to sound that I am taking sides here, I am not, but this happened so long ago. I was a juror on a rape case and its horrendous thing to go through and you need to very brave. But I beleive this is sexual assault still very serious and terrible for the victims and not knowing what was supposed to have happened but you surely can’t keep bringing this up indefinitely. There’s has to be an end one way or other, people have to move on with their lives. If Patrica did do something it should have delt with there and then or at least a little while later, not this long.

  58. indiapalealeblog says:
    May 12, 2018 at 5:31 pm
    How is Patricia is a public figure?
    What is the definition of a ‘public figure’ other than ‘anything I want it to mean’?
    He has a higher paying job than I do, is that the definition of a public figure?
    My managers manager makes good money. None of you have ever heard his name.
    Is he a public figure?

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    Oh he’s got a figure all right. But it’s not the word public. I’d use more the word bowling ball.

  59. vontazemebro says:
    May 12, 2018 at 9:50 pm
    When a young woman goes to the hospital, and nurses and cops line up to testify, that tells me something the young lady didn’t want to have happen went down.Not a good look

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    Line up to testify? They’re paid to testify, hired by the DA’s office. These professionals don’t walk away from their jobs to spend the day in court. BTW, there wasn’t enough evidence for the case to proceed without her testimony. Only sick, sadistic people have an interest in this garbage.

  60. People are going to great lengths to dig up old skeletons.
    I think matt is scared someone will discover his real name (Bluto) & that he bullied a guy named Popeye.

  61. tylawspick6 says:
    May 12, 2018 at 8:55 pm
    goodell’s article 46 reaches far and wide. it appears pretty obvious he is behind this as revenge for the clowndell shirt. Rumor was, he was incensed by it.

    Goodell is sick. Very sick.

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    Yes, let’s leave the victim, a young girl out of this, it was Goodell that was sexually abused. Obviously you do not have a daughter, just an unhealthy hate for Rodger Godell.

  62. “Proof does. The search for specific proof continues, in part because Patricia and the Lions have declined so far to provide any.”

    Are you ever going to quit this false and sanctimonious narrative? Oh, right, if Matt Patricia and the Lions had just spoken in details at the press conference then the media wouldn’t be going after this like mad dogs. Sure, that would happen.

    Look, the media will do what it’s gonna do, which is dig for dirt. Just don’t try to pretend that it has anything to do with what the subjects did or didn’t say. And especially don’t be a hypocrite and say that if Patricia didn’t do anything he should be thankful.

  63. Legal this and journalism that blah blah the bottom line is that it feels like someone is working extra hard to get this guy. It just feels wrong.

  64. honestly i hate to say it…

    but if the man got indicted by a grand jury, there was probably enough evidence to move forward with the case..which means theres probably some fire under all that smoke….

    i dont understand how people are saying “well the charges were dropped so theres no case, he’s innocent.” … my thing is, it isnt like the charges were dropped because of lack of evidence. We KNOW exactly hy the charges were dropped and thats because the young victom didnt want to deal with the stress of publicly being reminded over and over that she was assaulted.i mean for Gods sakes the alleged victim received treatment..

    Not saying he’s guilty. but theres something to be said if she received treatment, has multiple witnesses (inclluding a nurse, doctor, and police detective), + grand jury indictment. i don’t know i just think it’s too much to be nothing.

  65. Statue of limitations and legal job application disclosure rights aren’t really the issue here since there really aren’t any criminal legal implications. The issue is whether the leader and public face of a franchise has the character and ability to represent and lead the team. Sure there may be concerns about criminal acts by a college kid on spring break, but the other issue is a full and candid disclosure of any potentially problematic issues to his employer. Patricia wasn’t completely candid, and now has the uncomfortable task of dealing with his past whenever a player is charged but not convicted. The Lions are okay with that, and maybe it won’t be an issue, maybe it will.

  66. CNN should be able to find the documents if not they can make some up on the spot. Perhaps the people who put together Obama’s birth certificate can help.

  67. He claims innocence, and charges were dismissed, end of story. When similar charges surfaced with Vance Joseph after he was hired by the Broncos, it went away pretty quickly as well. Although, Vance both claimed innocence, and apologized for what happened. Odd to apologize for a crime you didn’t commit, or at least a “situation” you were not in. But, that was pre-Weinstein and #MeToo, so Patricia will end up quitting on Monday.

  68. “Absent proof to the contrary, he’s entitled to the presumption of innocence and the benefit of the doubt.”

    What nonsense. Presumption of innocence only applies in criminal court. It has no bearing on private person’s opinions. If you have no opinion of Matt Patricia, that is your right. If you think he is innocent of any crimes, that is your right. If you think he is guilty of any crimes, that is your right.

  69. Since the alleged victim was brought up…. let’s also think about her & the other alleged perp. Their lives, not just Patricia’s have no been turned upside down. If the alleged victim were the one bringing this up it would be different….however it’s not. It’s a Detroit Reporter doing typical Lion bashing. The alleged victim didn’t go to court for a reason. She moved on with her life for a reason. She left Patricia & Dietrich move on with their lives for a reason…. maybe just maybe it should have been left that way.

  70. Patricia looked horrible on stage not-successfully deflecting questions and not giving straight answers-
    same ole Lions
    4-12 season coming right up

  71. I normally like your takes, Florio, but here’s my issue. Sure, Patricia is proclaiming innocence – as we would expect. But this isn’t going to go to trial again – it’s done. The media digging into this is only going to bring up – AT BEST – police statements. What else?

    So the accuser is going to get dragged into this, as well as anyone else involved. There will be a lot of he said-she said. And nothing will be proved on way or the other, in any way.

    Patricia may be proclaiming his innocence into a vacuum, but I don’t see how there’s any benefit to dragging all of this into the light. All of the information brought forward will be going into a vacuum and cause a whole lot of damage for nothing.

    I always feel like I have to add: sexual assault is a despicable, heinous act and is a serious problem in our society. As others have said, if the DA had sufficient evidence they would’ve proceeded without the testimony of the accuser.

  72. How many of the people saying MP is innocent until proven guilty also believe Ray Lewis didn’t commit murder?

    Patricia hasn’t been proven guilty in court, but the standard he should be held to is the “appearance of impropriety.” Having a head coach who has been indicted for rape, something easily discovered via a LexisNexis search, shows the Lions and Bob Quinn aren’t interested in adhering to that higher standard. Also, when you see the number of Lions fans who are more concerned about a winning season than whether their head coach committed sexual assault back in the 1990s, it tells you a lot about sports fans in general.

    Patricia’s people are already putting the victim on trial without her being identified. That’s the standard mode of operation in a rape trial. Women’s lives get torn apart by defense attorneys during a rape trial. I’m not at all surprised that Patricia’s accuser chose not to go through with the trial – most women who’ve been raped don’t.

    Koby Bryant’s lawyer didn’t care about the judge’s instructions to keep his accuser’s name out of the press. Lakers fans don’t seem to care what Koby did to that woman in Colorado. Likewise, a lot of boxing fans say Mike Tyson isn’t a rapist. There’s a decent-sized chunk of men who will say these women “knew” what was going to happen and were therefore complicit in their own assault.

    Professional sports executives, including coaches, need to be held to a higher standard. But they won’t because fans don’t care. Fans just want to cheer for a winner at any cost, financial or human.

    I’m hoping the Lions go 0-16.

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