Eli Manning settles memorabilia fraud suit

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Eli Manning will no longer have a potentially serious legal issue hanging over his head.

Manning has settled the memorabilia fraud lawsuit that had been scheduled to begin today, a league source tells PFT.

At the last minute the trial did not start today because of a death in the family of one of the attorneys, but now there will be no trial, as Manning and the plaintiffs have agreed to a settlement.

Manning was accused of fraudulently passing off memorabilia as game-worn even though he hadn’t worn it in a game. At the center of the dispute were messages from Manning to a team equipment manager asking for helmets “that can pass as game used.”

The plaintiffs said they were duped by Manning into paying for “game-used” items that weren’t actually used in games. Now that issue will not go before a jury, and Manning has put it behind him.

173 responses to “Eli Manning settles memorabilia fraud suit

  1. The Manning family seem like a bunch of insincere scumbags. Acting all “Aww shucks” but in reality are just in it for themselves.

  2. The problem was the dual interpretation of that phrase in the email. It could be meant as either of these:

    – “…that can pass (the test/scrutiny) as game used”
    – “…that can pass (meaning, faked) as game used”

    Since the parties will never agree on one of those two over the other, it sounds like Manning did the right thing… make the customer happy and move on. Heck, a settlement could easily be inviting them down to the field or locker room so they can watch him take off the items and present it to them. That would certainly satisfy me in the situation… “I paid for game-used, and now I watched him take off the gear and hand it to me – I now have what I paid for previously, and I get to keep those other items.”

  3. Settlement = admission of guilt or at least Manning doesn’t want things being brought to light at trial. Shouldn’t he be saddled with a 4 game suspension? Or will the Giants continue to get preferred treatment by the league?

  4. smart move that protects a lot of companies with a lot to lose. you think topps or panini want the world thinking their jersey cards arent legitimate? ouch.

  5. Settling means Eli admitted he was wrong, even though I am
    sure it said in the papers “admitting no fault”.
    Now it’s time for the league to step in and administer
    punishment.

  6. That turned out to be pretty anti-climatic. Oh well, never figured he was ever in any trouble.

  7. A settlement isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, most settlements include stipulations that they are not admissions of guilt and that the plaintiffs agree not to claim that the defendant is guilty. All parties are agreeing he’s not guilty.

    Still shady AF tho.

  8. so, very obviously guilty

    now, it is just a matter if goodell wants to look the other way like with peyton’s obvious hgh cheating

    brady was framed and still took the stand to show his innocence

    your move, roger

  9. Geez, if Zeke got 4 games for allegedly roughing up his lying girlfriend even though prosecutors declined to press charges, what to do with Eli – give him a pat on the back and say ‘atta boy?

  10. meadowlandssports says:
    May 14, 2018 at 8:38 pm
    The problem was the dual interpretation of that phrase in the email. It could be meant as either of these:

    – “…that can pass (the test/scrutiny) as game used”
    – “…that can pass (meaning, faked) as game used”

    Since the parties will never agree on one of those two over the other, it sounds like Manning did the right thing… make the customer happy and move on. Heck, a settlement could easily be inviting them down to the field or locker room so they can watch him take off the items and present it to them. That would certainly satisfy me in the situation… “I paid for game-used, and now I watched him take off the gear and hand it to me – I now have what I paid for previously, and I get to keep those other items.”

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    Article 46 and Goodell himself say otherwise. It does not matter what an interpretation may be. It matters how it can be perceived, that is according to Goodell.

    Some of you stil don’t get it.

    Two equipment guys having a running joke between one another was used to frame and cheat the Pats and Brady.

    Here is a guy admitting guilt by “settling” so Goodell simply has to act based on past incidents, real or imagined.

    This one? It is real.

  11. Lawsuits are very hard to settle. If I’m a betting person Manning
    agreed to provide a certain number of product etc over a period
    of time. The release will include no admision of wrongdoing or
    negligence.Both parties will execute a Non Disclosure clause.
    End of discussion. The NFL will not investigate.
    I believe they should. The NFL makes billions of
    dollars selling it jerseys and memorabilia.
    The average fan, often a person who saves their money
    to buy season tickets and also spend money on NFL
    merchandise deserve to know they are not in danger of being
    ripped off.
    If Manning and the Giants employees were conspiring to
    sell fake merchandise, the public needs to know.
    Much like when authorities decline to follow up on
    an assault case the NFL needs to find the truth.
    Here’s betting that Goodel and company wimp
    out. Eli Manning and the Mara family ..no way..
    and it’s down right wrong. Just wrong.

  12. Awwww how cute, all of the whiny crybaby patriot babies are losing their minds over this, how predictable

  13. By the NFL’s standards from Zeke’s and Brady’s cases Eli’s settlement should be deemed an admission of wrong doing and fraud should carry 4 or more weeks suspension – whats the phrase about injuring the NFL’s reputation?? I bet they don’t even investigate.

  14. arwiv says:
    May 14, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    That turned out to be pretty anti-climatic. Oh well, never figured he was ever in any trouble.
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    He paid the plaintiff a bunch of money to settle case and avoid losing in court. I.e. he’s guilty.

  15. I wonder if he sold that jersey he wore when he upset the Patriots perfect season.

  16. The squeaky clean Manning. I’d say suspend him but I’d rather see him play this will hurt the Giants worse.

  17. Lol at all you tools saying guilty, and rejoicing. Nothing will come of this, and nobody will give a #### in one week, he will still be a Hall of Famer, and have a way better life than all of you put together. I guess the jokes on him, huh? Lmfao, I’m sure he’s losing madd sleep over what any of you have to say. Funny part is that you guys think your opinions mean anything. Stay hating my friends. 2x Super Bowl champ, 2x Super Bowl MVP’s, several Pro-Bowls, a beautiful family, and enough money that hos great, great grandkids will eat good. His only blemish was… Forget it, it’s already been forgotten.

  18. This is the definition of greed. Terrible. Like really Eli? You said it was game worn so you could get more money. I wonder what would happen to me if I did something like that……..

  19. Do you people even know a lawyer? Perhaps the plaintiffs had little hope and settled for an autograph. Throwing Manning’s under the bus seems kinda knee- jerk.

  20. How much money has this “classy” family sucked from the NFL?

    I mean they are likable and funny in commercials, but when is enough enough? Fraud fro game used equipment from the horses mouth? Then a pay-off?

    WILL THE REAL SLIM SHADY PLEASE STAND UP?

  21. Anyone who would defraud the game by refusing to play by the rules of the draft (“but I want to go to a franchise that can win now and not rely on me so much”) is capable of doing this and a lot of other things.

  22. but it is the mara family….. so the kicker and the qb are safe yo. roger only punishes the INNOCENT!

  23. Good thing for Manning that defrauding NFL fans isn’t considered conduct detrimental to the Shield

  24. mrbiggstuff says:
    May 14, 2018 at 8:32 pm
    And I’m sure the NFL will conduct a fair and impartial investigation into this matter and will hand out punishment accordingly.

    ———

    Yeah just like they did when Peyton said the HGH was for his healthy 30-something year old wife

  25. Now with legalized betting Manning can say “pass it off as if we were trying to win”. All credibility lost here. I hope the NFL steps up the effort as organized crime will try to get a piece of the gambling pie. If Eli sold out for a few bucks on memorabilia imagine the lure of a big payday from influencing the point spread, in NYC no less. I hope Goodell makes an example of the first player who is caught throwing a game.

  26. This is right up there with the HGH that was allegedly shipped to his sister in-law. Of course the punishment from the league will be the same.

  27. I’m sure the NFL will do a thorough investigation. It’s the Mara and Manning families and all………..

  28. Even if the NFL decided to “investigate”, it would be a sham, like the investigation into his brother taking HGH.

  29. Eli is home free now. It has been discussed and Goodell promised Mara in one of their pillow talk sessions that The League would do nothing punitive towards ELi as far as game suspensions.

    After all good ol Roger is a staunch member in good standing of the NYGiAint Fan Club.

    Elliot gets 6 games and lifetime probation without evidence and after recommendation from the lead investigator that Zeke’s case be dropped due to the accuser being a liar.

    Ol Fan Club Rog !!!! True Blue !

  30. Just imagine how big of story this would have been if it had of involved the Patriots!!!
    Alas it’s the Giants/Manning & Goodells League office so it will amount to NOTHING……PATHETIC!!!

  31. In about 7 years, NFL fans across the world will be angered that this fraud is in the HOF

  32. bostonsteve12 says:
    May 14, 2018 at 8:47 pm
    At least a 4-6 game suspension for this fraud.
    ………………………………………………………………..
    Nothing will happen. Goodell will never do anything to anger his biggest backer, John Mara.

  33. The lawyers (14 of them, at last count) have got to be bummed… They get the most $$$ when the cases go to trial. Everyone probably ate their own legal costs. No smoking gun so no win, even in civil court and the plaintiffs figured out they couldn’t win.

  34. Also wouldn’t surprise me if a few ‘new’ Eli Manning signed game-worn merchandise come on-line soon. Easy way to pay back for the supposed fraud is to give the plaintiffs some new ones to sell.

  35. Many rich, innocent people settle because they don’t want to be dragged through privacy-invading questions and time consuming trials. Or they might settle because they are guilty. We will never know.

  36. I don’t think Eli sells memorabilia and pockets the money. I’m pretty sure he donates all the proceeds to charity.
    Why would a multi-millionaire sell his stuff for a few thousand dollars, only to put it in his pocket?
    Multi millionaires do not cook up schemes to make a few thousand dollars. Their reputation is worth more than that.

  37. Sorry, folks, but settlement ≠ guilt.

    The practical rules of civil litigation are these: Even if you’ve spent tens of thousands in motions and discovery, unless your evidence is rock solid, civil juries are a crapshoot. It’s going to cost you $3500/day for trial, and there’s no guarantee you’ll win, and if you win there’s no guarantee you’ll collect or that the other side won’t appeal.

    So, you bite the bullet and find a way to settle and move on because life is too damn short.

  38. Somehow Goodell’s justification on not performing a NFL investigation is that there aren’t enough details and case was settled so there’s no need to waste NFL resources.

  39. Of course he was guilty…how many game used helmets do we think he had? The NFL claims certain team can’t have accurate throwback helmets because they don’t want players “fitted” for two different helmet colors…that’s why teams like the buccaneers, and Eagles can’t wear their retro helmets.

  40. what about all that grandstanding to “clear his name”!? clearing that family name is a tall order. i bet this one cost daddy even more than paying off big brother’s assaults.

  41. Good Lord. A guy who makes millions upon millions a year needs to sell phony memorabilia? Wow.

  42. @arwiv, I don’t think the settlement had anything to do with being against the weather.

    I do agree that Daddy stepped in to preserve the tarnished Manning legacy left by Peyton, the HGH-slamming liar and coward that let his own wife be his fall guy; and sexually assaulted a physical therapist in college for daring to ask his minimal cooperation while treating him.

    The Mannings: the classiest family in football after the Bennett brothers.

  43. So settling = guilty? Not a lot of intelligent people on here. Sounds like bitter fans of rivals who have nothing better to do than follow Manning and troll the net like their the judge, jury and executioner. With a death delaying the trial he could’ve simply not wanted it to interfere with his/the team’s preparation for the upcoming season. A lot of naive people making their assumptions like the trolls they are. So fans are experts on what game-worn is? That message could’ve meant two different things as mentioned earlier. I know most of y’all either don’t have much to talk about with your team/teams in the last 20 years or more or just want someone else to be as guilty as some of your guys were found, but this settlement doesn’t mean guilt. Think you’re smart because you can read, but you read too much between the lines and assume way too much. I, however, would be ok with a suspension, as it’s time to see what Webb can do. Have a nice day and keep trolling!

  44. Seriously? A multi-millionaire trying to scam and regular guy? The NFL needs to conduct an investigation alone and if they find that Manning was in fact guilty of fraud, then he needs to be suspended at least 4 games just as a player would who was found using PED’s. Fraud from a multi-million dollar quarterback in the NFL against a unsuspecting fan needs to put on the no-no list of things players can’t do while in the NFL

  45. When TB was being framed we were told that you don’t settle if you’re not guilty. When PM was having HGH shipped to his wife we were told that’s what you do, strongly deny. Innocent people fight to the end. At least TB stood up in the light and let the system roll over him rather than cave in and take the easy path. Mannings seems more of a back room deal kind of family. Settlement = Guilt.

  46. How is Eli a fraud? This guy was probably making a killing off those jerseys that he got from the Giants organization. Even after he sued Eli, he still wanted more paraphernalia. So who’s the victim?

  47. Let me guess….the settlement involves the Redskins and Cowboys forfeiting cap space.

  48. Manning will never miss a game. Mara is telling Rodger what the punishment is. Just like the wife beating kicker that got a new contract and a 1-game suspension, Manning will get nothing.

    The favoritism the Giants get is appalling – and everyone knows it.

  49. If he doesn’t get a serious suspension then the NFL is a fraud when you consider their mantra of “protecting the shield”, this tarnishes the NFL’s money machine of souvenirs.

  50. Let me guess, he agreed to sign some “game worn” items to compensate the plantiff?

  51. The league won’t look in to it because it only affects fans and the league has shown for years that they really don’t care about the fans. Plus it is the NYG and the Manning name, so nothing will happen. I will be shocked and impressed if the NFL looks into this and hands out a significant punishment (suspension, draft picks and fines), which should be expected since it does actually tarnish the shield. How can fans trust so called game used equipment that is being sold through companies like Panini, Topps or others?

  52. People that say he is “only in it for himself” are ridiculous. Of course he is in it for himself,it’s a business. Now it’s time to go back to work and be disrespected by your team.

  53. That whole franchise has the morals of a trap door spider. Remember that one time they got their division rivals punished for not having a cap during an uncapped year? Classic.

  54. If it was certain other players, they wouldn’t be able to make this go away so easily. It’s a Manning, so it’s all good,right? The royal family of football gets away with another one.

  55. According to Fox Sports, Manning has career earnings of $205,780,004 – not counting endorsements – which I imagine add to his total significantly. Why get involved in this? Does he really need a the money? Dumbass….

  56. Should be suspended to protect the integrity of the league !!! Guess it applies to some and not to others He’s in New York and the league office is in New York

  57. Interesting and revealing that there are only 19 comments on this thread. It’s about the inept Giants and Eli Manning, not the Patriots, so no one cares that they are committing fraud as they are no threat to 31 teams. Fans of 31 teams have nothing to cry about when it’s the New Jersey Giants. When it’s the Patriots, those same fans make up wild tales of cheating and corruption and reinforce each other’s stories so that dimwits will believe the lies instead of the truth. Doesn’t it just figure.

  58. A real man says says:
    May 14, 2018 at 8:40 pm
    …Shouldn’t he be saddled with a 4 game suspension? Or will the Giants continue to get preferred treatment by the league?
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    The answer to both of your questions is ‘Yes,’ although I would have worded your second question as:

    Will the Giants and the Mannings continue to get preferred treatment by the league?

  59. The Giants and Eli will spin this as “no one admitted any wrongdoing,” which is certainly true, but if the NFL has an ounce of integrity (I know; I tried to write that without laughing), it will investigate any case where there are serious allegations of fraud and deception, and where someone was clearly lying, even if never got to a jury due to settlement. But the NFL has a reputation for protecting its favorites, and the Giants, Mara, and anyone named “Manning” are NFL favorites. While I’d like to see the NFL conduct an impartial investigation and impose penalties for any inappropriate conduct, my strong suspicion is that Goodell and the NFL will just let this whole thing quietly fade away.

  60. A completely unsurprising grift from one of the supposed “good guys” in the league. As someone already said, the Manning “aw shucks” image is nothing more than a show.

    Too bad it settled – Eli was gonna get big money by selling his “fraud trial worn” suit.

  61. tylawspick6 says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    “…brady was framed and still took the stand to show his innocence.’

    hahahaha… “framed.” That’s cute you still believe that.

  62. it’s nice how the rich and famous can get away with just about anything, and not have to admit any wrongdoing. just settle with some money and an NDA. defrauded people with your joke online university? no problem. defraud people with your not game-worn “game-worn” gear? no problem. ka-ching, no wrongdoing!

  63. Not surprising that Pat fan would be here with their incessant and neverending persecution complex even in topics that have absolutely nothing to do with them. And they wonder why most fans dislike the Patriots. Hint: It has little to do with the team and a lot to do with the fans.

    As for Eli, the text message is damning but I believe it was a one time only mistake and not a scheme to defraud. Still…he was smart to settle.

  64. I know the story does not mention it, but the settlement will state that he’s not guilty of any crime or fraud. I just know it.

  65. This does not merit a suspension. We implore the Commissioner to keep him on the field as the starting QB of the NYG.

    Signed,

    Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins

  66. NFL is saying nothing, because everybody in the league does what Eli did, and they don’t want to open up a can of worms on their memorabilia. They probably are trying to sweep this under the rug.

  67. The demand for “game worn” memorabilia must outweigh the availability by a factor an of 10,000. IMO, Eli likely did not want to disappoint THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of fans, so I can see it’s possible he sold Giants mem as HIS so as to satisfy the overwhelming demand AND raise money for charity. .
    There is NO WAY he could come close to filling the demand, even with unused equipment. Why disappoint your fans if you can give them memorabilia that is authentic and straight from the Giants organization?
    It’s not right. I agree. But I wouldn’t sue him over it, and I’m not even a Giants fan.

  68. fujoeboo says:
    May 15, 2018 at 9:13 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    “…brady was framed and still took the stand to show his innocence.’

    hahahaha… “framed.” That’s cute you still believe that.

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    ^^How embarrassing for you. Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too? Did the boogie man strike Ray Rice’s fiancee in the elevator, because Goodell told you that, too?

    lmao

    Just how stupid do you want to look here?

    Of course he was framed. Everyone knows it. 56 lies in that Wells Report and the premise itself is comical beyond belief in the first place.

    Yes! Let’s have some 63 year old fat guy I don’t even know manipulate the balls to make me a HOF QB!

    lmao

    Do you drink stupid juice everyday or every other day?

  69. ahsinnyc says:
    May 15, 2018 at 6:34 am
    Manning will never miss a game. Mara is telling Rodger what the punishment is. Just like the wife beating kicker that got a new contract and a 1-game suspension, Manning will get nothing.

    The favoritism the Giants get is appalling – and everyone knows it.

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    You forgot the walkie talkie use on the sideline.

    “Ignorance is not an excuse.” – Roger Goodell

  70. switchwitch59 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 8:33 am
    Interesting and revealing that there are only 19 comments on this thread. It’s about the inept Giants and Eli Manning, not the Patriots, so no one cares that they are committing fraud as they are no threat to 31 teams. Fans of 31 teams have nothing to cry about when it’s the New Jersey Giants. When it’s the Patriots, those same fans make up wild tales of cheating and corruption and reinforce each other’s stories so that dimwits will believe the lies instead of the truth. Doesn’t it just figure.

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    Amazing, isn’t it?

    Wait until Brady and BB write their biographies and there is a whole chapter designated to Goodell and the cheating owners.

    Eli Manning is guilty because he settled. If he was innocent he would have testified like Brady and cleared his name.

    For over 10 years now, the entire goal has been to take advantage of anything that can be sold to the public as “cheating” but only for the Pats.

    Meanwhile, other teams do as they please with little to no punishment.

    The best is when they’re completely caught, evidence everyone sees, yet nothing happens.

    Oh, and the Jets’ Woody Johnson offered to hire Goodell as commissioner.

    Gee, it’s all so confusing.

  71. gauchosporlife says:
    May 15, 2018 at 9:51 am
    I know the story does not mention it, but the settlement will state that he’s not guilty of any crime or fraud. I just know it.

    ————————-

    Just like his brother wasn’t pumping undetectable HGH from China. It was his wife who was trying to get pregnant, taking an enormous health risk with an unknown from China, but she was only taking these in Miami, FL.

    That sounds really normal.

    Comical beyond belief.

    If anyone is seriously still questioning if Goodell and some owners are the cheaters, you need to sign up for night classes at your local community college at the very least.

    How Goodell thinks he can get away with this, and somehow not tie this little elephant in the room in with the decline in ratings, I have no idea.

    Inconsistent and fraudulent leadership is never successful.

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    pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 10:01 am
    It’s pretty ironic Braz is commenting on Pats fans posting on a non Pats article since Braz spends so much time posting on Pats articles!! Now that’s funny!!

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    Isn’t it amazing? The arrogance of it. He’s probably some intern from 345 Park Ave.

    lol

  73. weepingjebus says:
    May 15, 2018 at 8:00 am
    That whole franchise has the morals of a trap door spider. Remember that one time they got their division rivals punished for not having a cap during an uncapped year? Classic.

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    To be fair, I am sure all the other owners were ticked off at that as they tried to keep solidarity with the cap ceiling of 2009, heading into the CBA negotiations.

    Leave it to two arrogant bums (Jones and Snyder) to go off track and try to get an advantage in 2010.

    It very likely wasn’t just Mara ticked off at that.

  74. victorycruz says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:19 pm
    Lol at all you tools saying guilty, and rejoicing. Nothing will come of this, and nobody will give a #### in one week, he will still be a Hall of Famer, and have a way better life than all of you put together. I guess the jokes on him, huh? Lmfao, I’m sure he’s losing madd sleep over what any of you have to say. Funny part is that you guys think your opinions mean anything. Stay hating my friends. 2x Super Bowl champ, 2x Super Bowl MVP’s, several Pro-Bowls, a beautiful family, and enough money that hos great, great grandkids will eat good. His only blemish was… Forget it, it’s already been forgotten.

    ————–

    A HOFer? I just spit out my coffee.

    LOL

    A guy with so many INTs like that is not a HOFer. Elway got in because he was a much better QB than Eli Manning even with a poor TD/INT ratio like that.

  75. Why???? Why run the risk for what is only chump change?

    Will the NFL step in now and slap him on the wrist with only a fine?? If this was Tom Brady it would be 6 games…..

  76. A settlement isn’t an admission of guilt. In fact, most settlements include stipulations that they are not admissions of guilt and that the plaintiffs agree not to claim that the defendant is guilty. All parties are agreeing he’s not guilty.
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    Technically true…but words are worthless. Only the money changing hands matters. In this case, both sides completed ALL the discovery and trial prep (i.e. half the cost) already. Therefore the plaintiffs would not accept a small sum, and the defendants would not pay a large sum unless they were likely to lose. It’s virtually certain the defendants paid up to avoid live testimony under oath – and a potential NFL suspension if/when improper behavior was uncovered.

  77. Ugly, ugly look for Eli. Earns $21 million a year with a net worth of $100 million but was willing to ruin his reputation over some silly uniform sales? And it’d be one thing if he was a rookie so you could reasonably assume “youthful mistake” but he’s 37 years old.

  78. weepingjebus, now what part of uncapped don’t you understand? Synder and Jones were fined heavily in, there is that word again, an uncapped season. And the fox in the hen house overlooking this lopsided form of justice was none other than Mara.

  79. Pat fan is clearly envious that fans across the league outside of NE love Peyton Manning and give him respect and appreciation that Brady will never get and rank him well ahead of Brady on any list for the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

    And they are also clearly envious of the Giants, the team that cost the Pats 2 Super Bowl titles, including stopping an undefeated season dead in its tracks.

    Both are perfectly understandable.

  80. Its all good. Because I just bought an “Official Trial-used Eli Manning briefcase”… SWEET!

  81. tb12greatest says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:35 am

    Harry Knutzak says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:48 pm
    Eli 2
    Tommy Boy 0

    ____________

    More like:

    Tom – 5

    Eli – 2

    ==============
    Actually…it’s more like
    Tom 5*
    Eli 2

  82. dtm1088 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 10:09 am
    NFL is saying nothing, because everybody in the league does what Eli did, and they don’t want to open up a can of worms on their memorabilia. They probably are trying to sweep this under the rug.
    =========================

    Looking at the bigger picture, the NFL exec in charge of NFL Auctions, which auctioned off memorabilia for charity, was stealing items to sell himself. That story came out in January 2015 and we heard that the guy was fired from the NFL, but no other details, like how long this had been going on or if he was working alone. The story went away pretty quickly after that.

    Coupled with the Eli story, it looks like, when the topic of fake or questionable memorabilia comes up, the NFL’s approach is to make sure those stories get as little coverage as possible.

  83. silverandblack052099 says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:52 pm
    Why say in the e-mail give me two helmets “that can pass as game used”? Why not just say give me two helmets “that were game used”?
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    Think about it. “Game used” might be a WORSE helmet than “pass as game used.” If Eli Apple picked up the wrong helmet for a play that was called back for offsides on the offense, realized he had the wrong helmet and changed for the next play – that helmet was technically “game used” right? Now asking for one “passing” as “game used” suggests that Eli knew the specs for a “game used” helmet and was asking Skiba to produce one of those.

    The case is a credibility case. Are you going to believe Eli who has never been in trouble with the law OR are you going to believe the underbelly of the sports memorabilia industry arguing that Eli was trying to rip them off? Good luck. Now if it were Brady sending that e-mail, you all have to agree that the eyebrows would raise higher. Let’s be honest here.

  84. dtm1088 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 10:09 am

    NFL is saying nothing, because everybody in the league does what Eli did, and they don’t want to open up a can of worms on their memorabilia. They probably are trying to sweep this under the rug.
    __________________________________________-

    ^This!!
    Been saying it right along, the NFL doesn’t want to go anywhere the tar baby that is the memorabilia business. Just the thought that this got to jury selection probably had a lot of very unsavory people very tense.

  85. Not only don’t certain Giants fans NOT understand the basic laws of physics that prove there was no tampering, they don’t understand 5 Super Bowl wins is greater than 2!
    It’s been so long I forgot when the Giants last won a Super Bowl! Meanwhile the Pats have been in the last 3 out of 4.
    Go Celtics !!

  86. justintuckrule says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Now if it were Brady sending that e-mail, you all have to agree that the eyebrows would raise higher. Let’s be honest here.
    —————-

    Why? The Mannings are a family of entitled scumbags. They don’t get a free pass.

    Brady has more integrity and credibility than all 3 of the Mannings put together.

  87. Braz says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Pat fan is clearly envious that fans across the league outside of NE love Peyton Manning and give him respect and appreciation that Brady will never get and rank him well ahead of Brady on any list for the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

    And they are also clearly envious of the Giants, the team that cost the Pats 2 Super Bowl titles, including stopping an undefeated season dead in its tracks.

    Both are perfectly understandable.

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    Umm, actually neither are true. We could care less about a fluke SB win with 3 hilarious holds on a play with QB closing his eyes and throwing a wounded duck in the air.

    What we want is fairness, for you and your teams to stop demanding we be framed and cheated to be able to beat us in Super Bowls.

    Do you realize we had no 1st rd pick in SB 46 and SB 52 because our team was framed for things that absolutely 100% did not happen?

    Are you aware of this? Of course you aren’t. You just want the cheating to help YOUR team, to continue.

    How would you like it if your team was so great, other owners and the commissioner talk about ways to slow them down (Rule changes, faux scandals sold as sinister) and openly defame and cheat them when the opportunity can be sold to the public, whenever possible?

    How many more of these made up scandals do you want? Serious question. Do you expect one to be trumped annually, or is that too obvious?

    lol

    You arrogant, cheating fans are no better than Goodell and the cheating owners. They do it for you.

    Guess what, though? NE keeps attending Super Bowls and ratings keep dropping, so guess who is winning with the football gods watching?

    The Patriots.

  88. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    May 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    dtm1088 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 10:09 am

    NFL is saying nothing, because everybody in the league does what Eli did, and they don’t want to open up a can of worms on their memorabilia. They probably are trying to sweep this under the rug.
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    ^This!!
    Been saying it right along, the NFL doesn’t want to go anywhere the tar baby that is the memorabilia business. Just the thought that this got to jury selection probably had a lot of very unsavory people very tense.

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    Doesn’t matter. We’re not looking for a witch hunt elsewhere just like Goodell didn’t punish teams for violating the sideline rule while filming their games on the road.

    This is about Article 46 and “integrity”, two things Goodell testified about in federal court.

  89. No Giants fan should be slinging asterisks. Eli’s whole career became an asterisk the moment he bucked the parity system to select his own destination as the #1 draft choice. Brady was #199 and revived a moribund franchise. Eli went to a franchise with a pedigree and one subpar season just bad enough to be able to scheme to steal him from San Diego. That’s criminal.

  90. A HOFer? I just spit out my coffee.
    LOL
    ======

    Eli
    2 Titles, against the “GOAT”
    Has a chance at 60,000 passing yards
    Missed 1 start since November, 2004
    339 tds

    Kurt Warner
    Couldn’t beat the “GOAT”
    32,334 passing yards
    Fell off the face of the earth for 5 years
    208 tds

    Putting in hack grocery store clerks, and other candidates look REALLY REALLY good.

  91. check that….Are you going to believe Eli Manning, the Walter Payton Award Winner, who has never been in trouble……or

  92. Braz says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Pat fan is clearly envious that fans across the league outside of NE love Peyton Manning and give him respect and appreciation that Brady will never get and rank him well ahead of Brady on any list for the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
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    I cannot imagine why anyone would believe that Pats fans would be envious of any fans that demonstrated the level of stupidity that the above individual describes in his or her post.

  93. So we’re worried about a guy who got duped for wanting to rip fans off by selling Eli’s game worn stuff? Ya, Eli is such a bad person.

  94. Brady was #199 and revived a moribund franchise.
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    Pfffttt….

    They had been to a Super Bowl with a similar cast just 5 years prior.

  95. endtimesparty says:
    May 15, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    No Giants fan should be slinging asterisks. Eli’s whole career became an asterisk the moment he bucked the parity system to select his own destination as the #1 draft choice. Brady was #199 and revived a moribund franchise. Eli went to a franchise with a pedigree and one subpar season just bad enough to be able to scheme to steal him from San Diego. That’s criminal.
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    He didn’t buck anything. SD could have kept him. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
    Manning won the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award and beat Brady not once but t-w-i-c-e. Your tears are like fine w(h)ine. They are getting better with age.

  96. Why so many Pats fans commenting on this article? Oh, I know! It’s another Giants article, the team that has made more Patriots fans cry over the past 11 years than any other.

    Discredit Eli all you like, but he, yes he, drove down the field in both Super Bowls, came from behind and secured himself as Super Bowl MVP twice. He’s near the top of the record books for all-time QB’s in almost every meaningful QB statistic, a two-time Super Bowl champion, and he won the Walter Payton man of the year award. Now tell me what you have all accomplished in your lives.

    Eli Manning and the New York Giants – living rent free in Patriots* fans’ heads since 2007-2008.

  97. Eli was a decent QB and made some great throws when it counted. But selling fake memorabilia? What gives here. It’s not like he actually needed the money. I have to imagine someone else duped Eli into this sham and simply got him to “go along”….and the thing backfired.

  98. Sorry Giants fans: Pats fans live in the present! Unlike Giants fans who have to live in the past!! The Pats have been in the last 3/4 Super Bowls! That’s called living in the present!!!
    Plus 5 wins is still better than 2 !!
    Go Celtics!!!

  99. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 1:42 pm
    Sorry Giants fans: Pats fans live in the present! Unlike Giants fans who have to live in the past!! The Pats have been in the last 3/4 Super Bowls! That’s called living in the present!!!
    Plus 5 wins is still better than 2 !!
    Go Celtics!!!
    ______________
    You’re going all the way back to the early 00’s when referencing Patriots five Super Bowls, but you say that Giants fans live in the past? Technically, anything already won, excluding the most recent Super Bowl win by the Eagles, is living in the past. With that said, I fail to see how having won two Super Bowls in the past 11 years is anything but successful, but sure.

  100. SD could have kept him, you say? Well that’s like saying Bill Buckner could have fielded that grounder. SD didn’t. Because they took Manning’s threats of a hold out seriously.

    Hate the game? What’s that supposed to mean? I like parity.

    Manning didn’t beat Brady. Brady was defeated by the Giants defense. He would never have been beaten by San Diego’s defense. That’s why Manning chose the Giants.

    Debating is not your forte, my friend.

  101. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 1:42 pm
    Sorry Giants fans: Pats fans live in the present! Unlike Giants fans who have to live in the past!! The Pats have been in the last 3/4 Super Bowls! That’s called living in the present!!!
    Plus 5 wins is still better than 2 !!
    Go Celtics!!!

    It doesn’t matter how many super bowls you have been too, it matters how many you have won, and the record of super bowl W/L and you are 5-5 and the Giants are 4-1. I will take 4-1 over 5-5 anyday. If you want to break it down even further, Eli has a perfect record in the super bowl vs. Brady’s .600. So take your ignorant “only caring about the past” comment and get it straight. Your QB can only win when he has video evidence of what the other teams are doing.

  102. Braz says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:39 am
    tb12greatest says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:35 am
    Harry Knutzak says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:48 pm
    Eli 2
    Tommy Boy 0
    ____________
    More like:
    Tom – 5
    Eli – 2
    ==============
    Actually…it’s more like
    Tom 5*
    Eli 2
    ———————————————————
    Nearly 20 years into the dynasty and nary an * to be found anywhere in the record books pertaining to The Patriots Championships. However they are common amongst the whiny, jealous haters who simply can’t give credit where credit is due. Oh well, whatever gets them through another long off season after just another year of irrelevance. OK, Philly fans get about a year to gloat but odds are within a couple seasons it will be right back to the same old Eagles.

  103. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 1:42 pm
    Sorry Giants fans: Pats fans live in the present! Unlike Giants fans who have to live in the past!! The Pats have been in the last 3/4 Super Bowls! That’s called living in the present!!!
    Plus 5 wins is still better than 2 !!
    Go Celtics!!!
    ===========================
    Pinkhat Pat fan cracks me up. They prove time and time again their lack of NFL knowledge such as saying things like the Giants only winning 2 Super Bowls. You honestly can’t blame them though since they weren’t fans before 2001 and don’t know any better.

    After Brady and Belichick call it a day, I have no doubt the Hugh Millen days will be back. Not that pinkhat Pat fan knows who that is.

    17 straight home blackouts. An NFL record that stands to this day. Honestly even half of that number should have been a trigger for relocation.

  104. xavier179 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:25 am
    weepingjebus, now what part of uncapped don’t you understand? Synder and Jones were fined heavily in, there is that word again, an uncapped season. And the fox in the hen house overlooking this lopsided form of justice was none other than Mara.
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    Sure, it was an uncapped year. Wink wink, nod nod. I am speculating there was a “gentlemen’s agreement” among the owners and one thing that bunch of bloated billionaires can’t cotton to is someone trying to pull the wool over their eyes and get an advantage. Snyder and Jones tried and failed. The cartel spanked them and Jones has never forgiven them and continues to go rogue when it suits him financially. Let’s just call it what it was, collusion, and a couple parties didn’t play nice and had to be shown the error of their ways.

  105. imodan says:
    May 15, 2018 at 2:56 pm

    Braz says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:39 am
    tb12greatest says:
    May 15, 2018 at 11:35 am
    Harry Knutzak says:
    May 14, 2018 at 9:48 pm
    Eli 2
    Tommy Boy 0
    ____________
    More like:
    Tom – 5
    Eli – 2
    ==============
    Actually…it’s more like
    Tom 5*
    Eli 2
    ———————————————————
    Nearly 20 years into the dynasty and nary an * to be found anywhere in the record books pertaining to The Patriots Championships. However they are common amongst the whiny, jealous haters who simply can’t give credit where credit is due. Oh well, whatever gets them through another long off season after just another year of irrelevance. OK, Philly fans get about a year to gloat but odds are within a couple seasons it will be right back to the same old Eagles.
    ===========================================
    Pat fan loves to say this but they just don’t get it. It has nothing to do with jealousy or what’s in the record book, it has everything to do with perception.

    The * exists because as with many things, perception is reality. There’s a perception the Pats were doing shady things when they won titles and it’s not going away. It’s part of your story now. There is a question associated to those titles and it cannot be answered definitively by anyone. It’s too bad but that’s the way it is and you can blame Belichick’s arrogance for Spygate and Brady’s carelessness when he ordered footballs deflated.

  106. aarons444 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Brady has more integrity and credibility than all 3 of the Mannings put together.
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    TB12, brought to you by Victor Conte
    =============================
    Just wait till it’s found out that there’s a lot more to TB12 than Tom and his little buddy Guerrero are letting on and you know what I’m talking about. 40 year old QBs should not win MVPs. It’s should be physically impossible unless well you know. Honestly that may and probably will keep him out of the HOF if that ever sees the light of day.

  107. It doesn’t matter how many super bowls you have been too, it matters how many you have won, and the record of super bowl W/L and you are 5-5 and the Giants are 4-1. I will take 4-1 over 5-5 anyday. If you want to break it down even further, Eli has a perfect record in the super bowl vs. Brady’s .600. So take your ignorant “only caring about the past” comment and get it straight. Your QB can only win when he has video evidence of what the other teams are doing.
    ======

    There is nothing like watching your team on the last Sunday of the year.

    If the Packers find a way to go to 10 Super Bowls the next 20 years, even if they lose 5 of them, I’ll be thrilled.

    .. if they lose 8 of 10, perhaps I’d change my tune.

    …. couldn’t agree more with the rest of what you said.

    Sad that Pats fan has to play the victim card. Its not enough that they sit on the throne, they want their boots polished too.

  108. “When Brady ordered footballs deflated “. ??? He may be thought of as a God in New England , but the ONLY one who can deflate footballs is Mother Nature. Still don’t understand the basic laws of physics I see.

  109. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    “When Brady ordered footballs deflated “. ??? He may be thought of as a God in New England , but the ONLY one who can deflate footballs is Mother Nature. Still don’t understand the basic laws of physics I see.

    ==========================
    I’m afraid there’s a lot Pat fan doesn’t understand.

    Whether it was
    a) weather
    b) The Deflator getting carried away following Brady’s orders
    c) Brady knowing the deflator got carried away following his orders and just didn’t car

    that made the inflation levels illegal is up for debate.

    What is NOT up for debate is the fact Brady did order the deflation in the first place. The text messages and the Wells report say all that needs to be said. It was happening and far more likely than not based on some of the things that were said, it happened past inspection. A minor infraction but still an infraction and Brady’s carelessness is to blame.

  110. aarons444 says:
    May 15, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    It doesn’t matter how many super bowls you have been too, it matters how many you have won, and the record of super bowl W/L and you are 5-5 and the Giants are 4-1. I will take 4-1 over 5-5 anyday. If you want to break it down even further, Eli has a perfect record in the super bowl vs. Brady’s .600. So take your ignorant “only caring about the past” comment and get it straight. Your QB can only win when he has video evidence of what the other teams are doing.
    ======

    There is nothing like watching your team on the last Sunday of the year.

    If the Packers find a way to go to 10 Super Bowls the next 20 years, even if they lose 5 of them, I’ll be thrilled.

    .. if they lose 8 of 10, perhaps I’d change my tune.

    …. couldn’t agree more with the rest of what you said.

    Sad that Pats fan has to play the victim card. Its not enough that they sit on the throne, they want their boots polished too.

    ====================================
    Yep. Hence the whining and complaining about every single topic or post that doesn’t plant an affectionate juicy smooch on their backsides.

  111. endtimesparty says:
    May 15, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    SD could have kept him, you say? Well that’s like saying Bill Buckner could have fielded that grounder. SD didn’t. Because they took Manning’s threats of a hold out seriously.

    Hate the game? What’s that supposed to mean? I like parity.

    Manning didn’t beat Brady. Brady was defeated by the Giants defense. He would never have been beaten by San Diego’s defense. That’s why Manning chose the Giants.

    Debating is not your forte, my friend.
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    Buckner didn’t choose to miss that grounder you maniac. SD chose to trade Eli. See the difference?
    For someone who likes parity, you sure like rooting for a cheating franchise eh?
    Manning chose the Giants because of their defense huh? You should choose to check your meds. BTW, Eli beat Brady with a bottomed ranked defense in 2011 and would have curb stomped your team into submission if Wilfork didn’t flop.

    The only way debating and forte should be in the same sentence with you is when you are debating taking Forte in your fantasy draft. Speaking of fantasy, that’s about the only world that you’re better than me in debating.

  112. Braz says:
    May 15, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 3:38 pm
    “When Brady ordered footballs deflated “. ??? He may be thought of as a God in New England , but the ONLY one who can deflate footballs is Mother Nature. Still don’t understand the basic laws of physics I see.
    ==========================
    I’m afraid there’s a lot Pat fan doesn’t understand.
    Whether it was
    a) weather
    b) The Deflator getting carried away following Brady’s orders
    c) Brady knowing the deflator got carried away following his orders and just didn’t car
    that made the inflation levels illegal is up for debate.
    What is NOT up for debate is the fact Brady did order the deflation in the first place. The text messages and the Wells report say all that needs to be said. It was happening and far more likely than not based on some of the things that were said, it happened past inspection. A minor infraction but still an infraction and Brady’s carelessness is to blame.
    ————————————-
    So explain why the Colts balls were underinflated and absolutely nothing was done to them. Explain why they stopped measuring the Colts balls. It really is that simple. One team, one player got hammered while the other team had the same results and got an atta boy!

  113. endtimesparty says:
    May 15, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Manning didn’t beat Brady. Brady was defeated by the Giants defense. He would never have been beaten by San Diego’s defense. That’s why Manning chose the Giants.

    ————————-

    Manning was drafted in 2004. They beat the Pats (the first time) in 2007. 4 seasons. There were 7 players on Defense that were on the roster in both 2004 and 2007. So he didn’t really choose that defense, because it wasn’t even the same group of guys. 3 starters, 4 bench players.

  114. endtimesparty says:
    May 15, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    Manning didn’t beat Brady. Brady was defeated by the Giants defense. He would never have been beaten by San Diego’s defense. That’s why Manning chose the Giants.

    Debating is not your forte, my friend.
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    2007 – Giants Defense ranked 17
    Chargers Defense ranked 5

    Giants gave up twice as many touchdowns during the year, had less sack, less interceptions, and fewer total turnovers. So the Chargers were, in pretty much all categories, a superior defense.

  115. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    May 15, 2018 at 4:11 pm
    The NFL admitted in Federal Court they had no evidence against TB12 yet Braz has some how found it??? That’s a good one!
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    Something you can always count on is the Patriots haters saying there was plenty of evidence (“Look at the texts from Brady!”), but never actually saying what that evidence was.

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