John Dorsey tries to make the best of being forced to do Hard Knocks

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Browns General Manager John Dorsey made clear that he didn’t want to be on Hard Knocks, didn’t see anything good about being on Hard Knocks, and didn’t think the NFL would force him into being on Hard Knocks. Now the Browns are on Hard Knocks.

Given that the Browns met the criteria to be forced on the NFL Films-HBO reality show, Dorsey had no choice. And now that it’s official that the Browns will be on the show, Dorsey is trying to make the best of it.

“Like many, I was reluctant about being the featured team on Hard Knocks but once we sat down and talked about it as an organization, I feel a lot better and understand why the time is right,” Dorsey said in a statement. “Hue [Jackson] and I both feel like this team is in a good place and that we are in the process of building something that will lead to success. Being a part of Hard Knocks will give our fans the opportunity to see how passionate the people in our building are about winning and how excited we are about getting to work and preparing for the 2018 season.”

If Dorsey really didn’t want to be on Hard Knocks, he did have one outlet available to him: He could have fired Jackson, as teams with new head coaches can’t be forced to do the show. Fortunately for Jackson, Dorsey didn’t go that far.

52 responses to “John Dorsey tries to make the best of being forced to do Hard Knocks

  1. Fire Goodell. Just think of all the things it will fix — a list that grows by the day.

  2. Firing a head coach to avoid being on Hard Knocks is like killing a mosquito with a machine gun. Being on Hard Knocks isn’t going to set the franchise back any further than it already is.

  3. It would be a better show if they just went around the Cleveland area and interviewed fans. Some of the best football fans in the world–jilted by a greedy, lying freak who initially promised to never move the team—and have wallowed in misery ever since. You want drama? Go talk to a longtime Browns fans–though they are getting harder and harder to find….

  4. Why does the NFL allow this constant whining from coaches or gms about hard knocks? Roger doesn’t do what he wants without the approval of the NFL owners. So NFL owners agreed to Hard Knocks, the format, how the team who will be on is picked, and how long the show will be one. So why are the employees of the owners complaining?

    The NFL needs to send out a memo to all 32 team and the message should be simple, “stop whining about Hard Knocks or get fined.” If the goal for the league is to get more fans to watch the show, having people who will be on the show bad mouthing it doesn’t help.

  5. How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?

  6. not sure he can justify talk re: the front office being “passionate” for winning when they’ve won 1 game in 2 years.

    “yearning” for winning, yes – but “passionate”… get there first.

  7. I wonder if could fire the coach and hire him back to avoid being on Hard Knocks.

    So you know… Fire your HC, Appoint an intrim HC, then hire original HC back.

  8. Players, coaches, GMs: “We don’t want Hard Knocks, Thursday football, or London”
    .
    NFL bean counters: “Fine, your salary cap is reduced by 20%”
    .
    Players, coaches, GMs: “Whoa, whoa, whoa, hehe, you misheard us. Haha. We LOVE Hard Knocks, Thursday football, and London!!!!!!”

  9. Browns are gonna eventually come out of all this as beloved as the Cubs. When they finally win the SB in 2098, everyone will blink three times and turn their ears orange to celebrate.

  10. I’m sure Hue is on a short leash. New GM’s always want their own guys and Hue has yet to win on a Sunday as Brown’s HC. Seriously that’s unbelievable.

  11. Maybe it was not so fortunate for Jackson that Dorsey didn’t fire him to avoid going on Hard Knocks. At least Jackson won’t have to bite his tongue when the cameras catch him telling his players that the team’s goal is to win more games than they did last year. ONE win will achieve that!

  12. weepingjebus says:

    Fire Goodell. Just think of all the things it will fix — a list that grows by the day.
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    Jerry wanted to. Then of course everyone started crying about him instead.

  13. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?

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    Since the NFL has no problem filming players finding out they’ve been cut or traded, how about when they get fined or suspended?

  14. They should just redo the entire show – focus it every year on Cleveland and call it Chronicling The Factory of Sadness. Seriously, at some point that organization will turn it around and poof – the NFL will have years of behind the scenes tape on how they did it and which they can then sell to the likes of Singapore, London, Mexico City, etc when those cities teams are having a hard time.

  15. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    The whole show would just star Goodell, Belichick, Kraft, and Hochuli hanging out all the time.

  16. Main reason Hard Knocks suck so bad is because it is always the bottom ranked teams. Even fans of those teams don’t want to watch them.

    It should be set that the loser of the Super Bowl has to be on Hard Knocks. A little extra incentive.

  17. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?

    ——————

    You want to watch a TV show about guys working in an Office?

  18. Start giving the team on hard knocks a compensatory pick, something like a 4th rounder. It doesn’t have significant value but at least the teams get something out of having to publicize a lot of things they’d prefer kept private. I also think the team that wins the SB be featured, it’s a disadvantage in my opinion to have to make so much public and ‘good’ teams theoretically are more equipped to handle things like that PLUS having a team that won would be better for the ratings. I wouldnt want my sb 52 winning PHILADELPHIA EAGLES on it but that would be most fair the way I see it

  19. DolFan, I like the way you think…that makes sense also to my suggestion. If it’s about ratings, and we all know it is, ratings would be best with polarizing teams like the eagles, patriots; steelers, cowboys (ugh)

  20. I never got the appeal of Hard Knocks.
    It was ok when it was brand new and everyone got to deep dive into what training camp was like for the first time.

    Now it is just repetitive with no team running camp much different than anyone else, and them manufacturing dramatic stories to try and keep your attention.

    When every team has a tough go-getter, whose heart outweighs his skill, who has all the coaches rooting for him…until they eventually cut him because ‘football is a business in the end,’ what is still special about that?

  21. I would be interested to know the rules for having the TV crew in your building. Why not just lock them out of meetings? Have meetings in secret places. Rent a conference room at a nearby hotel.

  22. realityonetwo says: “Hard Knocks has run its course. Cancel it.”
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    And this is what is wrong with America. It’s fine that you don’t like it, just don’t watch. But to advocate cancellation just because you don’t like it is beyond stupid as it would deprive the rest that do enjoy the show (which averages 800,000 viewers not counting repeats).

  23. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?

    //////////////////////////

    You pat fans sure have an unhealthy obsession about Goodell. It’s a game, it really shouldn’t consume every facet of your lives. Go outside and have some quality time with your kids and family.

  24. I don’t believe Hue reports to Dorsey, so it’s not likely Dorsey could fire him. Pretty sure Hue reports to Haslam

  25. Dorsey can’t fire Hue Jackson. Dorsey and Jackson report to Haslam. Haslam would have to fire Jackson. It’s the same structure Dorsey came from at KC.

  26. Proves the NFL sold out to the media. Why the NFL caters to the media and allows them to make up stories is beyond me.

  27. We watch Hard Knocks because it’s the only NFL related garbage on TV during those weeks of the year.

    We don’t really want to watch the doormat teams ALWAYS on Hard Knocks. It’d be a much more interesting program if the NFL would put forth the previous years divisional champions on a rotating basis.

    Except that might get old too after awhile, always watching the Patriots, Steelers, Chiefs, Seahawks, etc… But at least we wouldn’t have to watch the dregs every year.

  28. I’m still scarred by the first one, where Carson Palmer pulled a center aside and told him how horribly he made Carson’s hand stink “like an outhouse toilet” after an hour or so taking snaps from him.

    Apparently, it was that foul both days of mini camp. He asked him to check his diet, see a doctor, “do something, man!”

    I wish I’d caught the guy’s name to see if he made the team, or at least got picked up elsewhere.

  29. flviking says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    How about “Hard Knocks” spends the off-season covering the inter-workings of NFL headquarters? How about they cover the day-to-day “stress” Roger and his cronies face for the pittance they earn?

    //////////////////////////

    You pat fans sure have an unhealthy obsession about Goodell. It’s a game, it really shouldn’t consume every facet of your lives. Go outside and have some quality time with your kids and family.
    ——————
    I know – it’s crazy, isn’t it? It’s almost as bad as some of those viking fans and their unhealthy obsession about everything to do with the Packers. It’s like they have to post on every Packer article, even though most of them have nothing to do with the vikings. They really shouldn’t let it consume every facet of their lives. Very solid advice!

  30. — “Being a part of Hard Knocks will give our fans the opportunity to see how passionate the people in our building are about winning and how excited we are about getting to work and preparing for the 2018 season.” —

    This is a very good point.

    Showing the effort and intensity the players bring to practice humanizes the players and coaches. Fans should be rooting for the people on a team rather than the colors or location or mascot of a team.

    Losing isn’t fun and trite as it seems, I’ll say it anyway. Those who commit their heart and soul to a battle have gained something for themselves and given something to the fans no matter the outcome.

  31. toddm1016 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Firing a head coach to avoid being on Hard Knocks is like killing a mosquito with a machine gun. Being on Hard Knocks isn’t going to set the franchise back any further than it already is.
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    Good point. What about the thousand other good reasons he had to fire Jackson?

  32. The league should incentivize participation on Hard Knocks. Instead of threatening to fine, really, stop being a hard ass, and offer something — like an extra second and third round pick in the next draft to the team that does the show. Teams would be lining up for the chance..

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