Lane Johnson: Chip Kelly focused too much on sports science, not enough on football

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Eagles offensive tackle Lane Johnson was the first draft pick of the Chip Kelly era, but Johnson wasn’t thrilled with what he saw of Kelly.

Johnson said that although Kelly’s obsession with sports science had some value, he felt as if Kelly focused more on sports science than on football.

“We major in sports science, which is good thing — we still do it here. But I think we kind of went overboard with that. I think a good way to put it is we majored in the minors instead of focusing on some of the main points that we needed to,” Johnson said on Steve Austin’s podcast, via Philly.com.

Johnson also did not agree with the personnel moves Kelly made.

“It was definitely exciting whenever he first came in, and we did some good things,” Johnson said. “Then we start getting rid of our best players. You’ve got DeSean Jackson, who can outrun everyone on the field. You’ve got Shady McCoy, who’s going to be one of the best running backs of all time. You just get rid of those guys just like that, and you set a tone. Players didn’t really like that.”

It’s been remarkable how quickly Howie Roseman and Doug Pederson turned the Eagles around: Kelly left them a mess, and in two years they won a Super Bowl.

123 responses to “Lane Johnson: Chip Kelly focused too much on sports science, not enough on football

  1. He makes valid points, football is blocking and tackling and having good players, makes it’s easier to win. Chip found his level…back in college.

  2. “I don’t need some sport science nerd telling me what all these roids are gonna do to my body.”

  3. I understood getting rid of Jackson but McCoy was a head scratcher but the Eagles don’t win the Superbowl with those 2 taking up 20 million, nor do they get a chance to draft Wentz without collapsing under Kelly. Lane is only concerned with the stars that left, not with the financial side of it.

    The Eagles ended up winning with their depth and quality coaching. There’s no Nick Foles if McCoy or Jackson are on the roster. I believe the entire eagles RB corps made less than McCoy. Even with many players on rookie contracts, the Eagles struggled to fit them all under the cap. It is definitely a balancing act between salary and salary cap.

    The Eagles path to the superbowl wasn’t a straight one but it turned out the previous regimes mistakes paved the way for glory.

  4. Letting Jackson and McCoy go were huge mistakes. Signing a power runner like Demarco Murray looked like a good move but to have him try to run to the outside instead of up the middle just made zero sense. I was excited after year one of Chips run, frustrated after year two and glad he was gone when the axe fell. Thank God for Howie and Doug!!!

  5. Is this not the Lane Johnson who was suspended twice for PED’s.
    And
    Who cares what he has to say .
    It’s the ” juice ” talking

  6. Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

  7. Do we have access to the list? Who is next to be criticized by a guy who was lucky enough to be on a team that won a SB? It’s OK Lame, you’re not obnoxious at all. You’ve got plenty of company. Eagles fans are quickly becoming pats fans. Not paats fans that were around for 5 wins in 8 visits. Pats fans from 2002. He’s like a guy who sinks a half court shot on his first try and thinks he’s now NBA material.

  8. Actually, I think it is easier for teams to do since the new rookie deal. Teams can amass a great deal of “talent” for a very cheap price and with a cheap rookie QB on the roster in this QB friendly systems they run today, those are the teams that have the best chance to win a SB. Not the ones with the grossly overpaid so called franchise QB’s taking up all the cap and causing teams to have to reset each year by having to let key performing players walk on account of trying to manage the cap while the QB is making over $22+ million and they have to let great contributors go who may have only taken up $3 to $7 million a year.

    It seems even with the cap increasing, once cheap Qb’s win and then get paid, they join the rest of the league with the overpaid QB’s, fighting fruitlessly to get back to the SB while failing on account of being a player or two or three short. Russell Wilson’s team is an excellent example. Tom Brady and the Pats haven’t suffered this plight as many downplay or ignore that an elite QB like Tom Brady only takes up $14 mill. People downplay the impact of this. But I find it consistent.

  9. Lane Johnson should focus on passing his drug tests rather than bash old coaches and complain about lack of respect from teams they just beat in the super bowl. You are an offensive lineman bro. Just do your job.

  10. Can someone please phone PED Lane and explain to him what the word arrogant means?

  11. Chip Kelly thought he didn’t need those players because he was a genius. Guy wasn’t nearly as smart as he thought he was, he was set up with a very talented team left by Andy Reid and he got rid of a lot of great talent in their prime.

  12. nflfollower says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:15 am
    Lane Johnson should focus on passing his drug tests rather than bash old coaches and complain about lack of respect from teams they just beat in the super bowl. You are an offensive lineman bro. Just do your job.
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    “beat in the super bowl” – is the only thing that matters until September. He’s 1st team All pro, he did his job! Kudos on the passing drug tests remark , if not for that nonsense (that’s another matter- he took an approved supplement) we might be looking at a 3peat this coming year.

  13. Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title
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    Banged up? We had our backup QB (the real league MVP), a hall of fame left tackle, the best return man/scat back in nfl and our starting middle line backer all on the bench. Not to mention, Graham, barnett and Alshon all had surgeries immediately after the game, LOL!

  14. ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:39 am

    “beat in the super bowl” – is the only thing that matters until September.

    —–

    but then you went on talking what-ifs about a 3peat?

  15. Thetruthis says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:14 am
    Actually, I think it is easier for teams to do since the new rookie deal. Teams can amass a great deal of “talent” for a very cheap price and with a cheap rookie QB on the roster in this QB friendly systems they run today, those are the teams that have the best chance to win a SB. Not the ones with the grossly overpaid so called franchise QB’s taking up all the cap and causing teams to have to reset each year by having to let key performing players walk on account of trying to manage the cap while the QB is making over $22+ million and they have to let great contributors go who may have only taken up $3 to $7 million a year.

    It seems even with the cap increasing, once cheap Qb’s win and then get paid, they join the rest of the league with the overpaid QB’s, fighting fruitlessly to get back to the SB while failing on account of being a player or two or three short. Russell Wilson’s team is an excellent example. Tom Brady and the Pats haven’t suffered this plight as many downplay or ignore that an elite QB like Tom Brady only takes up $14 mill. People downplay the impact of this. But I find it consistent.

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    I agree with most of what you are saying. Look at the Rams loading up this year before they have to pay Goff and the other talent on entry level contracts next year. If Wentz was making 25 mill/yr how much depth would the Eagles have to shed? Definately no Foles and some of those large contracts on defense would be gone.

    I would like to point out though that Brady’s cap hit is 22 mill, his base salary is 14 mill. While still underpaid in a world where Kirk Cousins just received 30 mill/yr guaranteed for a far less polished resume that 8 mill still represents a few players the Pats can’t afford. It also helps that Tom wouldn’t be the breadwinner in that family even if he has the highest paid QB. He’s not one of those players who has to feed his family.

  16. All this guy does is complain, even when he won a SB. Should be fun listening to him after he doesn’t win one, like this year.

  17. Christopher says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:27 am
    Chip Kelly thought he didn’t need those players because he was a genius. Guy wasn’t nearly as smart as he thought he was, he was set up with a very talented team left by Andy Reid and he got rid of a lot of great talent in their prime.

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    I think Kelly’s biggest sin was treating offensive linemen as disposable. One thing you can say about Reid is he values the trenches. Kelly let the Eagles offensive guards go and replaced them with street free agents for minimum wage because he didn’t think it mattered who was blocking for his uptempo offense.

    That was probably why he had DeMarco Murray run outside instead of up the middle (his second biggest sin). Linebackers were meeting Murray 3 yards deep in the backfield after they blew through the revolving door at the guard positions.

    The bad line play Kelly’s final year really stood out. How many replays can you watch of Murray getting blown up in the backfield?

  18. All this guy does is whine and think he has everything figured out. News flash, you got busted for PEDs (twice) and the Eagles have had one really good season since you’ve been on the team.

  19. ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:44 am
    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title
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    Banged up? We had our backup QB (the real league MVP), a hall of fame left tackle, the best return man/scat back in nfl and our starting middle line backer all on the bench. Not to mention, Graham, barnett and Alshon all had surgeries immediately after the game, LOL!

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    Both sides should stay away from excuses. Sure there is stuff that either side could yap about but really every bit of it comes under the heading of ‘thats football’. In the end Philly won the game so good for them. But the bottom line remains that the team everyone still focuses on and worries about the most is the Patriots as can be seen in all these quotes, comments, and articles all through the off season.

  20. I thought it was the Panthers who had a new owner.

    Evidently it’s the Eagles and the guys name is Johnson…

  21. streetyson says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am
    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

    Hey Bozo..
    The Eagles were without a ton of talent as well, and had to go through a lot more talented teams to get to the SB.

    Here’s a list for you:

    K Caleb Sturgis – replaced with a Bengals practice squad rookie Jake Elliott.
    RB Darren Sproles – signed Kenyon Barner and by committee.
    OT Jason Peters – Best Left tackle in the game.. replaced by Halapoulivaati Vaitai
    S Chris Maragos – Special Teams captain. Replaced by committee.
    LB Jordan Hicks – He was the Def. Signal caller. Committee.
    QB Carson Wentz – Nick Foles stepped in and filled in admirably

  22. Lane – Juice Head – Johnson* seems new at this to me.
    He hasn’t figured out yet that no one outside of Philly gives a Rats-A$$ what he says and everything he’s ever done on a football field is tarnished with the residue of steroids.

    Bro, here’s a hint; say as little as possible and let everyone wonder whether or not you’re an idiot, as opposed to opening your mouth and removing all doubt.

  23. streetyson says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:15 am
    Can someone please phone PED Lane and explain to him what the word arrogant means?

    No one needs to call him. He just needs to read a Pats interview or comment for examples. Any of them.

    Eagles (and fans) please don’t become like the Patriots. Or the Vikings. Have some class.

  24. At least when the Patriots win the Super Bowl you only have to deal with the Patriots fans talking crap for the next 6 months.

    One would think that winning would leave you filled with less negativity?
    Cheer up Lane. You won. Congratulations.

  25. Pretty sure chip Kelly drafted lane over dion, one of his Oregon boys who ironically was also a ped user…chip brought over Malcolm Jenkins vs jarius byrd, another one of his guys. Chip brought in the sports science system.that the birds still use today. Chip installed the offense minus the tempo that the eagles ran to win the sb….that’s what Doug did after the halftime adjustment in the Atlanta game if you guys didn’t realize that…27-2….the guy can run a rpo college style offense other than that average…but that was chip’s doing as well….he flushed the lockeroom of McCoy and d jack….he knew those guys were bad for business…culture wins….played a big Part in winning the sb, did it not. So everyone can crush chip all they want, but his fingerprints are all over this sb win as well.

  26. Lane Johnson’s final meltdown is going to be spectacular.

    He sounds like a guy who was made to play for second tier teams – not SB winning organizations. It is obvious, and some people are wired like this, he does not handle success well.

  27. The problem with Chip Kelly’s tenure in the NFL is this;

    With the Eagles he began to turn over the roster and was not in Philly long enough to see it through.

    With the 49ers the he didn’t have the players, and was not given enough time to turn the roster ove.

    When Chip Kelly has the horses he can coach in the NFL at a high level.What he needed was a GM and organization that had unwavering belief and trust in him who would allow him to turn the roster over with a few draft classes – kids fresh out of college, and allow him to see his process through to completion. Like Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones.

    His offense works in the NFL. The Eagles ran a lot of his concepts last year. Especially the Zack Ertz TD in the SuperBowl when they put the running back in motion to clear out the Safety pre-snap. That was textbook Chip Kelly Offense. Watch the powerhouse that builds at UCLA.

  28. Is Johnson forgetting tha Chip Kelly took a 4-12 Eagles team and produced two 10-win seasons? His record with Philedelphia was 26-21, so it wasn’t like he was in Hue Jackson territory…

  29. OT Jason Peters – Best Left tackle in the game.. replaced by Halapoulivaati Vaitai
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    Tyron Smith, Andrew Whitworth, Joe Thomas and Trent Williams beg to differ.

  30. The man makes some good points, but I sort of wish he would stop talking. I understand the stage when you are sb champ and probably the best right tackle in football, but bad mouthing never looks good.

  31. wins one superbowl…….thinks his cooments are desired and he is more than willing to let everyone know about them…..

    You won a super bowl. Be proud of that fact, be respectful to your opponent whom you beat, and give grace to those that have crossed your path in this life …even if you disagree with them…

    Once you do all that… people will really listen to you because you will speak from a position of knowledge and humble strength.

  32. Man, theres some bitter people on here. Lane Johnson wasn’t busted twice for PEDs…he was busted for prohibited substances. Nobody ever said it was roids.

    And he was first team All Pro this year, having two drug tests a week.

    As for the Eagles crash, landing them Carson Wentz, how do you figure? The Eagles were an average team after Doug Pederson coached them his first year. Chip Kelly crashed. Dougie P came in and had a decent season with the same exact talent. They had to trade up from 12 to 8, then from 8 to 2. And they had to unload the garbage contracts that Kelly gave to Murray, Maxwell, Chase Daniel, and get rid of that cheap shotter Kiko Alonso (that was a straight trade for Shady)

    If you people cant admit that Chip Kelly had no idea how to build an NFL roster, youre out of your mind.

    Im not sure why Lane is bringing him back up, but it seems like people are just poking him for soundbites at this point in time.

  33. Christopher says:

    May 17, 2018 at 7:27 am

    Chip Kelly thought he didn’t need those players because he was a genius. Guy wasn’t nearly as smart as he thought he was, he was set up with a very talented team left by Andy Reid and he got rid of a lot of great talent in their prime.

    ———–

    This. He thought he could use Riley Cooper as a substitute for Desean Jackson…and his system was so good, the talent level didn’t matter.

    Guy was a complete incompetent fool.

  34. reizorcblig…Well said! Sick of dum dums saying the Philly Special was illigal formation. It was totally legal and the refs were asked about it BEFORE the game to make sure. Hogan & Gronk we’re mugged? On the Eagles WINNING TD, the 2 point conversion try. Jeffrey was mugged so bad that even Collingsworth (who was anti-Eagle the whole game) said he was. The Ertz TD was legal, he took 3 steps before diving, Clements TD was legal. That’s why NY said TD! Sour grapes?

    As for Lane being a cheat. He didn’t take sterods. He took supplements. As do 90% of lineman do. The NFL bans stupid stuff. I didn’t hear anti-Eagle posters call Brady a cheat..and as Lane Johnson didn’t take any PEDs he was voted All Pro. Name me the last RT to make all Pro?!

    Super Bowl 52 and 53 champion Eagles

  35. If you win a SB with Foles, doesn’t that indicate that it’s the system rather than the player? The “real?” MVP goes down and you not only don’t miss a beat you play over your heads? Maye Wentz isn’t all that.

  36. If you add up all the chirping and whining Patriots players have done for the past 18 years it would be less than Lane Johnson has run his mouth in the past 6 months.

  37. to hear a pat fan complain about a team winning a super bowl due to bad calls is pretty rich. to have a win like the tuck rule, then get caught taping other teams practices (otherwise maybe the eagles win that super bowl in 2004 btw) and then later complain about the refs is a little much……

    and to the guy who said the eagles wouldn’t have foles if chipper kept desean and shady fails to remember that they did have foles and shady and desean until chip traded or released all three. and they would have had the draft capital to get wentz after chipper’s tenure if he didn’t give away picks for players like bradford, and if he was trading shady, getting more than kiko f’in alonzo…..

  38. Both sides should stay away from excuses. Sure there is stuff that either side could yap about but really every bit of it comes under the heading of ‘thats football’. In the end Philly won the game so good for them. But the bottom line remains that the team everyone still focuses on and worries about the most is the Patriots as can be seen in all these quotes, comments, and articles all through the off season.
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    Not anymore just ask Lane!

  39. 345snarkavenue says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:51 am
    ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:39 am

    “beat in the super bowl” – is the only thing that matters until September.

    —–

    but then you went on talking what-ifs about a 3peat?
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    Check the eagles record the past 2 years with Lane at right tackle!
    18-3?

  40. Christopher says: “Chip Kelly thought he didn’t need those players because he was a genius… and he got rid of a lot of great talent in their prime.”
    —————————-

    Guys Kelly got rid of:
    – LeSean McCoy for LB Kiko Alonso, who has been a beast for Miami with 230 tackles in 2 years
    – Trent Cole – signed with Colts for 2/$16m and production fell off a cliff
    – Todd Herremans – released by Kelly and signed by Colts – benched & waived after 2 games
    – Evan Mathis – out of football a year after Eagles released him

    The only questionable move was releasing Desean Jackson as a disciplinary move.

  41. Too much sports science says the idiot who has got popped several times now for PED’s. The last time claiming He was so worried His peptide level was getting low so He took something that He didn’t know what it had in it.

  42. “It was definitely exciting whenever he first came in, and we did some good things. Then we start getting rid of our best players. You’ve got DeSean Jackson, who can outrun everyone on the field. You’ve got Shady McCoy, who’s going to be one of the best running backs of all time. You just get rid of those guys just like that, and you set a tone. Players didn’t really like that.” – Lane Johnson

    ==============================

    You see, what he is objecting to in Chip Kelly’s method is that it starts to sound like Belichick’s way. Setting the tone or building a culture was what Kelly was doing but he never got to see its fruition. Kelly had his flaws of course but he never had the time to evolve with his mistakes like Belichick.

    What “49ersfury” says at May 17, 2018 at 8:48am is something I agree with. Whether he can win the Super Bowl or not is a different topic. But I believe CK could build a contending team.

  43. cookerduff123 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:56 am
    The man makes some good points, but I sort of wish he would stop talking. I understand the stage when you are sb champ and probably the best right tackle in football, but bad mouthing never looks good.

    —————

    He was always saying what he wanted I am sure, but had no one to listen to him. Now after winning, the world is watching… and his grand contribution is just negativity. It’s a waste of an opportunity. He should take a page out of Chris Long’s playbook instead.

  44. Youknowimright says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:32 am
    Pretty sure chip Kelly drafted lane over dion, one of his Oregon boys who ironically was also a ped user…
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    Dion was drafted ahead of Lane, Dolphins traded up for him.
    Guess you’re not always right, lol!

  45. May 17, 2018 at 8:15 am

    streetyson says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am
    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

    Hey Bozo..
    The Eagles were without a ton of talent as well, and had to go through a lot more talented teams to get to the SB.

    Here’s a list for you:

    K Caleb Sturgis – replaced with a Bengals practice squad rookie Jake Elliott.
    RB Darren Sproles – signed Kenyon Barner and by committee.
    OT Jason Peters – Best Left tackle in the game.. replaced by Halapoulivaati Vaitai
    S Chris Maragos – Special Teams captain. Replaced by committee.
    LB Jordan Hicks – He was the Def. Signal caller. Committee.
    QB Carson Wentz – Nick Foles stepped in and filled in admirably

    ———————-

    I love how Eagles fans all wine that their team was soo banged up. Almost all these injuries are easy to survive. The Carson Wentz is the only one I think that is worth noting. Even with that one, Wentz got injured when the #1 seed was basically already a lock. How would have Foles done if he played all year like Case Keenum did for the Vikings?

  46. thefirstsmilergrogan says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:25 am
    to hear a pat fan complain about a team winning a super bowl due to bad calls is pretty rich. to have a win like the tuck rule, then get caught taping other teams practices (otherwise maybe the eagles win that super bowl in 2004 btw) and then later complain about the refs is a little much……

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    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

  47. theroc5156 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:56 am
    OT Jason Peters – Best Left tackle in the game.. replaced by Halapoulivaati Vaitai
    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    Tyron Smith, Andrew Whitworth, Joe Thomas and Trent Williams beg to differ.

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    Who’s better then Lane at Right tackle? Did you read the headline?

  48. The thing is, if the Eagles still had Jackson and McCoy on the roster last year, they probably don’t win the Super Bowl. Jackson, while fast, drops a lot of balls thrown his way. He is also a diva who causes descension in the locker room. McCoy is a great RB who was looking for a huge payday back in 2015 (he wound up signing a 5-year, $40 million deal with Buffalo). The Eagles would have never been able to sign/resign Fletcher Cox, Malcolm Jenkins, Vinny Curry and Zach Ertz in 2016 and sign Alshon Jeffery in 2017, if they had McCoy’s contract on their books. One or two of those guys wouldn’t have been on their roster last year.

  49. donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:12 am
    If you win a SB with Foles, doesn’t that indicate that it’s the system rather than the player? The “real?” MVP goes down and you not only don’t miss a beat you play over your heads? Maye Wentz isn’t all that.
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    Wentz is an ascending player with 2 years in the league. Guy has 5 rings in college and 1 in NFL. 6 rings in 7 years. Eagles are in good shape hate away all you want. Lane is the Sheriff!! I’ll take a good system and a great team over any superstar. Eagles way is the Patriots way on PEDS

  50. Ask Joey Bosa, Von Miller, Michael Bennett and every other edge player who was helped without a sack against this guy. He was the third table taken that year and the only all-pro. The first one is a marginal starter and Joekel is on his second or third team.

  51. Congrats on your first Superbowl for Philly Lane, but you really should not be the one running your mouth so much. You are and will always be a cheater. Two PED suspensions voids really anything you say about the game because you did not work for your success you took drugs to get there. So do us all a favor and shut up.

  52. ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am

    I love how Eagles fans all wine that their team was soo banged up. Almost all these injuries are easy to survive. The Carson Wentz is the only one I think that is worth noting. Even with that one, Wentz got injured when the #1 seed was basically already a lock. How would have Foles done if he played all year like Case Keenum did for the Vikings?
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    How did the Cowboys do when their left tackle went down?
    Eagles fans aren’t whining we won the Super Bowl.
    We will see THIS year who’s whining now that our 1st string is playing

  53. ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:32 am

    Check the eagles record the past 2 years with Lane at right tackle!
    18-3?

    ——

    I did not claim that there was anything wrong with your argument, I was just pointing out that you said the only thing that matters was the SB win, then contradicted yourself by talking about stuff that doesn’t matter.

  54. I tell you again Lane, you need play football wearing a helmet! In fact you may have had your bell rung so many times that it has messed up your critical thinking process. Remember, be sure to engage brain BEFORE putting mouth in gear!

  55. streetyson says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am
    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.
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    Dude, I’m a loooong time Pats fan. Let it go. The game was played, there are a million variables throughout the year and in the SB that affect the eventual outcome. All that matters is the final score. We lost. That’s sports. Congrats to the Eagles and now that season is over. When the new season starts, there is no champion, everyone is 0-0. It’s okay.

  56. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:29 am
    Ok……who the heck is Lane Johnson

    Go watch the Super Bowl again. Lanes the one that steamrolled people on Blounts big run and shut down the Pats pass rush all game.

    Pats fans are hilarious. Take the L gracefully and carry on

  57. Eagles way is the Patriots way on PEDS

    _____________________________

    No doubt PED’s are involved

  58. So are we going to be subjected to Lane Johnson’s opinions on everything? Dude, your team won ONE Super Bowl, and that’s great, but you talk too much. Must be the ‘roids…

  59. People have been talking about the Patriots for 18 years ,,nobody will be talking about the Iggles and lane Johnson a year from now !

  60. Lane don’t forget you were once more worried about supplements than football. You forget?

  61. Lane Johnson seems mouthy. Hasn’t shut up since Super Bowl, never heard from him before it. Wish he’d go back to being a nobody.

  62. nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am
    thefirstsmilergrogan says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:25 am
    to hear a pat fan complain about a team winning a super bowl due to bad calls is pretty rich. to have a win like the tuck rule, then get caught taping other teams practices (otherwise maybe the eagles win that super bowl in 2004 btw) and then later complain about the refs is a little much……

    —————–

    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

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    Pretty much. Why?

  63. Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

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    Pretty much. Why?

    ********************
    Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?
    Didn’t Mcdaniel get fired in Denver for taping the Jags in London?

  64. ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm
    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

    ———————-
    Pretty much. Why?

    ********************
    Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?
    Didn’t Mcdaniel get fired in Denver for taping the Jags in London
    ______________________________________________________

    Nice to see people actually know what they’re talking about… SMH

  65. Pretty sure chip Kelly drafted lane over dion, one of his Oregon boys who ironically was also a ped user…
    *****************************
    Dion was drafted ahead of Lane, Dolphins traded up for him.
    Guess you’re not always right, lol!
    ——————————-

    Oh I’m right even when I’m wrong. Stay thirsty my friends.

  66. ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 11:06 am

    ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am

    I love how Eagles fans all wine that their team was soo banged up. Almost all these injuries are easy to survive. The Carson Wentz is the only one I think that is worth noting. Even with that one, Wentz got injured when the #1 seed was basically already a lock. How would have Foles done if he played all year like Case Keenum did for the Vikings?
    ****************
    How did the Cowboys do when their left tackle went down?
    Eagles fans aren’t whining we won the Super Bowl.
    We will see THIS year who’s whining now that our 1st string is playing

    ————————–

    We’ll see how they do without playing one of the easiest schedules also

  67. ahummler72 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm
    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

    ———————-
    What rock were you hiding under or planet are you from??
    Ever hear of SPYGATE?? Look it up.. I tried to respond earlier with links for you to read about but the Mod blocked my post probably due to giving other sites links??

    With that said.. Between Spygate, Deflategate and the less talked about Headsetgate, the New England Patriots = BIG F A T CHEATERS!!!

  68. “Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?”

    Yes and then had to print a front page retraction and apologize to the Pats because the writer fabricated the whole story and there was no basis in fact.

    100 million dollar corporations or whatever the Herald was worth at that point do not retract major stories and open themselves up to legal liability unless they are certain they were wrong.

    The writer was fired as well.

  69. nfcleast says:

    May 17, 2018 at 11:42 am

    nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:29 am
    Ok……who the heck is Lane Johnson

    Go watch the Super Bowl again. Lanes the one that steamrolled people on Blounts big run and shut down the Pats pass rush all game.

    Pats fans are hilarious. Take the L gracefully and carry on

    ———————–

    How about Eagles fans take the Win gracefully? I don’t know a fanbase that is more obnoxious or does more trolling on the internet.

  70. AJ – I remember you from other posts…Ive come to see why the rest of the NFC North clowns Vikings fans…I respect Lions fans more. You guys are the whiniest fan base ever.

    38-7

    ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 1:06 pm
    nfcleast says:

    May 17, 2018 at 11:42 am

    nhpats says:
    May 17, 2018 at 8:29 am
    Ok……who the heck is Lane Johnson

    Go watch the Super Bowl again. Lanes the one that steamrolled people on Blounts big run and shut down the Pats pass rush all game.

    Pats fans are hilarious. Take the L gracefully and carry on

  71. ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:55 am

    streetyson says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am
    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

    Hey Bozo..
    The Eagles were without a ton of talent as well, and had to go through a lot more talented teams to get to the SB.

    Here’s a list for you:

    K Caleb Sturgis – replaced with a Bengals practice squad rookie Jake Elliott.
    RB Darren Sproles – signed Kenyon Barner and by committee.
    OT Jason Peters – Best Left tackle in the game.. replaced by Halapoulivaati Vaitai
    S Chris Maragos – Special Teams captain. Replaced by committee.
    LB Jordan Hicks – He was the Def. Signal caller. Committee.
    QB Carson Wentz – Nick Foles stepped in and filled in admirably

    ———————-

    I love how Eagles fans all wine that their team was soo banged up. Almost all these injuries are easy to survive. The Carson Wentz is the only one I think that is worth noting. Even with that one, Wentz got injured when the #1 seed was basically already a lock. How would have Foles done if he played all year like Case Keenum did for the Vikings?

    ————————

    Sorry ajzinnecker…

    Wasn’t whining.. Just pointing out the the Eagles were missing a lot of talent when they played the so called ‘one of the most banged up teams in the league last year’ Patriots.

  72. Johnson hasn’t yet realized that people don’t care who just won the Super Bowl, they only care about who might win the next one. He does seem to enjoy talking, though.

  73. Youknowimright says:
    May 17, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    Pretty sure chip Kelly drafted lane over dion, one of his Oregon boys who ironically was also a ped user…
    *****************************
    Dion was drafted ahead of Lane, Dolphins traded up for him.
    Guess you’re not always right, lol!
    ——————————-

    Oh I’m right even when I’m wrong. Stay thirsty my friends.
    ******************************
    Right about as many times as a broken clock

  74. shady is great, was not yet due for a new contract. buffalo made him happy with the extension after the trade. kiko may be good in miami but he was terrible in philly. as was byron maxwell, who chipper overpaid, as was demarco murray who got the money shady would have gotten. and trading nick foles and throwing in a draft pick to get sam bradford was as bad as it gets.

    for howie and joe douglas to have overturned all that and re-accumulated the capital to obtain wentz was outstanding. and was the point of lane johnson’s comment. funny how some butt hurt pats fans in the comments turned it into a recap of their super bowl loss.

  75. ————————–

    We’ll see how they do without playing one of the easiest schedules also

    ****************
    Playoff victories over the Falcons (could’ve been defending champs)
    Vikings – # defense, best 3rd down defense in 2 decades
    Pats – only 5-time winner QB and scored more points on any belichik coach defense

  76. donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 17, 2018 at 9:12 am
    If you win a SB with Foles, doesn’t that indicate that it’s the system rather than the player? The “real?” MVP goes down and you not only don’t miss a beat you play over your heads? Maye Wentz isn’t all that.

    11 13 Rate This

    You don’t watch football much, obviously. Wentz is a magician, he simply makes plays no other QB (with the possible exception of Aaron Rodgers) can make. He was well on his way to winning the league MVP award, and deservedly so.

  77. their super bowl loss.

    ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    ————————–

    We’ll see how they do without playing one of the easiest schedules also

    ****************
    Playoff victories over the Falcons (could’ve been defending champs)
    Vikings – # defense, best 3rd down defense in 2 decades
    Pats – only 5-time winner QB and scored more points on any belichik coach defense

    ————————

    Those are playoff games. I’m talking about the easy schedule they had, that helped them get the #1 Seed, which gave them the best opportunity to make the Superbowl. More often than not the #1 Seed makes it to the Superbowl because getting home field and making other teams have to play in front of their terrible fans and terrible field makes it easier to win playoff games. Their regular season was one of the easiest ranked schedules in the entire league. This year they will have a more tough schedule, and everyone is going to be gunning for them.

  78. thefirstsmilergrogan says: ”
    shady is great, was not yet due for a new contract. buffalo made him happy with the extension after the trade. kiko may be good in miami but he was terrible in philly. as was byron maxwell, who chipper overpaid, as was demarco murray who got the money shady would have gotten.”
    —————————–

    – McCoy was traded because his 2015 cap hit was $11.95m and he wouldn’t rework the contract. Murray’s new deal was better written to spread the cap number so it wouldn’t exceed $9m in any contract year.

    – Kiko “was terrible in philly”?!? Seriously? He suffered an ACL in the second game and was traded after that.

    – Byron Maxwell recorded 64 tackles, 2 INTs and 12 passes defended. He only allowed two TDs all year and that was to Julio Jones. He shut everyone else down the rest of the year. How was he “overpaid” for that fantastic production??

    Stop with the revisionist history.

  79. You mean Lane Johnson can talk about other things BESIDES the New England Patriots? #GolfClap

  80. Cannot wait for October 7th! The Eagles and their sorry fans will be getting “38-7” shoved up where the sun never shines! Unfortunately, the Eagles won’t be making the playoffs this season…a humiliating loss @ US Bank Stadium in the January would’ve been so sweet! Ok, all you Rocky wannabees…go take a deep breath and your blood pressure medicine!

  81. Youknowimright says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:04 pm
    Right twice a day Baby @ahummler…..you know you love me.
    *******************
    You know I’m right, cheers!

  82. reizorcblog says:

    What rock were you hiding under or planet are you from??
    Ever hear of SPYGATE?? Look it up.. I tried to respond earlier with links for you to read about but the Mod blocked my post probably due to giving other sites links??

    With that said.. Between Spygate, Deflategate and the less talked about Headsetgate, the New England Patriots = BIG F A T CHEATERS!!!

    ===========================================

    Spygate was overblown, one game where the NFL determined no competitive advantage was gained because tapes weren’t used in real time. Pats screwed up badly by pushing it and took their medicine. The tapes were reviewed by the NFL and were shown to the media. For Deflategate, physics and the NFL’s determination to hide the PSI logs after promising transparency completely exonerated the Pats. In 2016 the Steelers were found to have two footballs at 11.4 and 11.8, and the NFL didn’t care (and I didn’t either). Why? And Headsetgate? what in the world is that? The NFL tech personnel controls the headsets, not the teams.

  83. ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

    ———————-
    Pretty much. Why?

    ********************
    Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?
    Didn’t Mcdaniel get fired in Denver for taping the Jags in London?

    ==================

    The same Boston newspaper shortly thereafter issued a front and back page retraction of the story, an unprecedented move by a major metro paper.

  84. ajzinnecker says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    their super bowl loss.

    ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    ————————–

    We’ll see how they do without playing one of the easiest schedules also

    ****************
    Playoff victories over the Falcons (could’ve been defending champs)
    Vikings – # defense, best 3rd down defense in 2 decades
    Pats – only 5-time winner QB and scored more points on any belichik coach defense

    ————————

    Those are playoff games. I’m talking about the easy schedule they had, that helped them get the #1 Seed, which gave them the best opportunity to make the Superbowl. More often than not the #1 Seed makes it to the Superbowl because getting home field and making other teams have to play in front of their terrible fans and terrible field makes it easier to win playoff games. Their regular season was one of the easiest ranked schedules in the entire league. This year they will have a more tough schedule, and everyone is going to be gunning for them.

    ==============================================

    In the Brady era, Pats have perennially have played a 1st place schedule almost every year. Its not their fault some 2016 teams ended up worse in 2017. Aside from that, Pats still went 7-3 against playoff teams this past year (5-2 reg season). Eagles went 5-2 (only 2-2 during reg season)

  85. Chill_Donahue says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm
    ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    Caught taping other team’s practices? Do you guys just make this stuff up as you go along?

    ———————-
    Pretty much. Why?

    ********************
    Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?
    Didn’t Mcdaniel get fired in Denver for taping the Jags in London?

    ==================

    The same Boston newspaper shortly thereafter issued a front and back page retraction of the story, an unprecedented move by a major metro paper.
    ******************
    Very true, but most of you pats fans act like this stuff is coming out of thin air. Guess the nile isn’t only a river in Egypt.
    Care to rebute the Mcdaniel in England claim?

  86. “Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?”

    Yes and then had to print a front page retraction and apologize to the Pats because the writer fabricated the whole story and there was no basis in fact.

    100 million dollar corporations or whatever the Herald was worth at that point do not retract major stories and open themselves up to legal liability unless they are certain they were wrong.

    The writer was fired as well.
    *****************************************
    Sure….. Did they retract the article about Mcdaniel taping the Jags walkthrough?

    And why all you smug pats fan act like this stuff is completely fabricated… when your own hometown newspaper wrote an article about it….

  87. byron maxwell got a 6 yr supposedly 63 million dollar deal in march 2015 from chipper howie traded him to the dolphins in 2018 and he was released with 5.3 M dead money by the dolphins in october of 2017 to carve out a roster spot for backup qb david fales. so he was terrible in philly and even worse in miami and was definitely overpaid. those are the facts. spin it any way you like.

  88. Chill_Donahue says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Spygate was overblown, one game where the NFL determined no competitive advantage was gained because tapes weren’t used in real time. Pats screwed up badly by pushing it and took their medicine. The tapes were reviewed by the NFL and were shown to the media. For Deflategate, physics and the NFL’s determination to hide the PSI logs after promising transparency completely exonerated the Pats. In 2016 the Steelers were found to have two footballs at 11.4 and 11.8, and the NFL didn’t care (and I didn’t either). Why? And Headsetgate? what in the world is that? The NFL tech personnel controls the headsets, not the teams.
    ============================
    Blah, Blah, Blah… You need to educate yourself on the scandals.. Especially in the Spygate one!!

    Patriots coach Bill Belichick.Christian Petersen/GettyWhen the NFL came down hard on the New England Patriots over the “Deflategate” scandal, many people mentioned the Patriots’ 2007 “Spygate” scandal as one reason for the extensive four-game punishment, which was later overturned.
    According to a bombshell report from ESPN’s “Outside the Lines,”the Spygate scandal — in which the Patriots were caught videotaping opponents’ defensive signals — is perhaps the primary reason the NFL tried to nail them for Deflategate.
    The report details Spygate as we’ve never heard it, painting a picture of systematic cheating that went way further and looks way worse for the Patriots than people previously realized.
    First, the Patriots had a detailed, efficient system for finding out opponents’ plays. ESPN’s Don Van Natta Jr. and Seth Wickersham describe a scene in Patriots coach Bill Belichick’s office before a season-opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
    “[A backup quarterback named John] Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell [offensive coordinator Charlie] Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe.”
    Van Natta and Wickersham report that although the Patriots lost that game, they realized a “schematic” edge over other teams. They “streamlined the system,” finding a more efficient way to note the plays and relay the information, cutting out the quarterbacks, with only a few people, including Belichick.
    Soon, advanced scouts would be sent to the games of upcoming Patriots’ opponents to film the play signals. The scouts would go undercover as media members, with media credentials listed under “Patriots TV” or “Kraft Productions” and were prepared with excuses of what to say they were filming if security asked.
    According to Van Natta and Wickersham, “Each video sequence would usually include three shots: the down and distance, the signal, and, as an in-house joke, a tight shot of a cheerleader’s top or skirt.”
    The tapes would then go to a Belichick confidant named Ernie Adams, an “amateur historian of pro football,” who would have the tapes edited and match the notes of the play calls and signals to the action on the field.
    The Patriots started a library of videotapes from teams all across the league. A former Patriots assistant coach told ESPN “It got out of control.”
    According to the report, the system grew to the point that the Patriots would add players cut from upcoming opponents to look at Adams’ tapes and judge their effectiveness.
    But wait, there’s more!
    The effectiveness of the spying is reportedly debated among former Patriots staffers, some of whom say Adams wasn’t good at his job.
    Other methods of cheating reportedly include:
    • Sending low-level Patriots employees to sneak into the visiting locker room during pregame warm-ups and steal the play sheet. As Van Natta and Wickersham note, “The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.”
    • Sending employees through the visiting team’s hotel to try to swipe playbooks and scouting reports.
    • “Scrambling and jamming” opponent radio headsets to interfere with opponent communication.
    Peyton Manning is reportedly paranoid about the Patriots’ methods of cheating; he leaves the Patriots’ visiting locker room to discuss schemes with coaches in case the room is bugged.
    Still, the spying was reportedly the biggest deal. The entire operation came to a head when Eric Mangini, coach of the New York Jets and a former Patriots coach, realized that the Patriots were filming teams. He ordered security to be on alert, and they caught a Patriots employee taping the Jets.
    Close friends: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots owner Robert Kraft.
    Roger Goodell, then only 18 months into his role as NFL commissioner, fined Belichick $500,000, the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team a first-round pick before investigators ever even went to Foxborough to look for the tapes.
    There, investigators found “a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others” with a “library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents’ signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons.”
    However, as Van Natta and Wickersham report, “almost as quickly as the tapes and notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell’s orders: League executives stomped the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room.”
    The report says the Patriots never told the league how many games they filmed and offered up only eight tapes, and the league never asked.
    Goodell was accused by some owners of sweeping the issue under the rug and helping out his close friend, Patriots owner Robert Kraft. Belichick said he had simply misinterpreted a rule prohibiting the taping of other teams’ play signals. Goodell reportedly took the stance that any team that cheats in the future will be “dealt with forcefully.”

  89. ahummler72 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    “Didn’t the boston paper write an article about them taping Rams walkthrough?”

    Yes and then had to print a front page retraction and apologize to the Pats because the writer fabricated the whole story and there was no basis in fact.

    100 million dollar corporations or whatever the Herald was worth at that point do not retract major stories and open themselves up to legal liability unless they are certain they were wrong.

    The writer was fired as well.
    *****************************************
    Sure….. Did they retract the article about Mcdaniel taping the Jags walkthrough?

    And why all you smug pats fan act like this stuff is completely fabricated… when your own hometown newspaper wrote an article about it….

    ==============================

    Uh, the Rams walkthrough was vehemently retracted, like I said. And I don’t really care what McDaniels did or didn’t do on the Broncos. Broncos have plenty of underhanded things going on long before McDaniels got there. Check their late 90’s salary cap shenanigans.

  90. reizorcblog says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    Chill_Donahue says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Spygate was overblown, one game where the NFL determined no competitive advantage was gained because tapes weren’t used in real time. Pats screwed up badly by pushing it and took their medicine. The tapes were reviewed by the NFL and were shown to the media. For Deflategate, physics and the NFL’s determination to hide the PSI logs after promising transparency completely exonerated the Pats. In 2016 the Steelers were found to have two footballs at 11.4 and 11.8, and the NFL didn’t care (and I didn’t either). Why? And Headsetgate? what in the world is that? The NFL tech personnel controls the headsets, not the teams.
    ============================
    Blah, Blah, Blah… You need to educate yourself on the scandals.. Especially in the Spygate one!!

    Patriots coach Bill Belichick.Christian Petersen/GettyWhen the NFL came down hard on the New England Patriots over the “Deflategate” scandal, many people mentioned the Patriots’ 2007 “Spygate” scandal as one reason for the extensive four-game punishment, which was later overturned.
    According to a bombshell report from ESPN’s “Outside the Lines,”the Spygate scandal — in which the Patriots were caught videotaping opponents’ defensive signals — is perhaps the primary reason the NFL tried to nail them for Deflategate.
    The report details Spygate as we’ve never heard it, painting a picture of systematic cheating that went way further and looks way worse for the Patriots than people previously realized.
    First, the Patriots had a detailed, efficient system for finding out opponents’ plays. ESPN’s Don Van Natta Jr. and Seth Wickersham describe a scene in Patriots coach Bill Belichick’s office before a season-opener against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
    “[A backup quarterback named John] Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs’ signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell [offensive coordinator Charlie] Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe.”
    Van Natta and Wickersham report that although the Patriots lost that game, they realized a “schematic” edge over other teams. They “streamlined the system,” finding a more efficient way to note the plays and relay the information, cutting out the quarterbacks, with only a few people, including Belichick.
    Soon, advanced scouts would be sent to the games of upcoming Patriots’ opponents to film the play signals. The scouts would go undercover as media members, with media credentials listed under “Patriots TV” or “Kraft Productions” and were prepared with excuses of what to say they were filming if security asked.
    According to Van Natta and Wickersham, “Each video sequence would usually include three shots: the down and distance, the signal, and, as an in-house joke, a tight shot of a cheerleader’s top or skirt.”
    The tapes would then go to a Belichick confidant named Ernie Adams, an “amateur historian of pro football,” who would have the tapes edited and match the notes of the play calls and signals to the action on the field.
    The Patriots started a library of videotapes from teams all across the league. A former Patriots assistant coach told ESPN “It got out of control.”
    According to the report, the system grew to the point that the Patriots would add players cut from upcoming opponents to look at Adams’ tapes and judge their effectiveness.
    But wait, there’s more!
    The effectiveness of the spying is reportedly debated among former Patriots staffers, some of whom say Adams wasn’t good at his job.
    Other methods of cheating reportedly include:
    • Sending low-level Patriots employees to sneak into the visiting locker room during pregame warm-ups and steal the play sheet. As Van Natta and Wickersham note, “The practice became so notorious that some coaches put out fake play sheets for the Patriots to swipe.”
    • Sending employees through the visiting team’s hotel to try to swipe playbooks and scouting reports.
    • “Scrambling and jamming” opponent radio headsets to interfere with opponent communication.
    Peyton Manning is reportedly paranoid about the Patriots’ methods of cheating; he leaves the Patriots’ visiting locker room to discuss schemes with coaches in case the room is bugged.
    Still, the spying was reportedly the biggest deal. The entire operation came to a head when Eric Mangini, coach of the New York Jets and a former Patriots coach, realized that the Patriots were filming teams. He ordered security to be on alert, and they caught a Patriots employee taping the Jets.
    Close friends: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots owner Robert Kraft.
    Roger Goodell, then only 18 months into his role as NFL commissioner, fined Belichick $500,000, the Patriots $250,000, and docked the team a first-round pick before investigators ever even went to Foxborough to look for the tapes.
    There, investigators found “a room accessible only to Belichick and a few others” with a “library of scouting material containing videotapes of opponents’ signals, with detailed notes matching signals to plays for many teams going back seven seasons.”
    However, as Van Natta and Wickersham report, “almost as quickly as the tapes and notes were found, they were destroyed, on Goodell’s orders: League executives stomped the tapes into pieces and shredded the papers inside a Gillette Stadium conference room.”
    The report says the Patriots never told the league how many games they filmed and offered up only eight tapes, and the league never asked.
    Goodell was accused by some owners of sweeping the issue under the rug and helping out his close friend, Patriots owner Robert Kraft. Belichick said he had simply misinterpreted a rule prohibiting the taping of other teams’ play signals. Goodell reportedly took the stance that any team that cheats in the future will be “dealt with forcefully.”

    =========================

    Yikes, you need to educate yourself. Several well known coaches said they tried it too and didn’t think it was worth the effort (Cowher, Jimmy Johnson, Schottenheimer). And per the actual rule, taping signals was and still is legal. You just can’t do it from the sidelines. The 2006/07 memos to teams were to put a stop to the practice. It was perfectly fine before that. Pats got bagged for still doing it for one game and rightfully so. And Belichik had a terrible record with Bledsoe as QB (5-13), so whatever happened back then didn’t help much.

  91. AJZinnecker, Seriously???

    Those are playoff games. I’m talking about the easy schedule they had, that helped them get the #1 Seed, which gave them the best opportunity to make the Superbowl. More often than not the #1 Seed makes it to the Superbowl because getting home field and making other teams have to play in front of their terrible fans and terrible field makes it easier to win playoff games. Their regular season was one of the easiest ranked schedules in the entire league. This year they will have a more tough schedule, and everyone is going to be gunning for them.

    *******************

    The eagles were underdogs in ALL 3 playoff games! Vegas knows Top seed has an advantage and the Eagles were STILL underdogs. Your grasping at straws looking for excuses. Bottom line, Great teams win the games on the schedules , what if teams like your vikes make excuses. Look at regular season schedules when the Eagles clearly had the toughest route in the playoffs and Super Bowl, you wanna talk regular season. Lets talk lucky Hail Mary’s to win at home against the Saints and a Home Super Bowl and you wanna rain on the Eagles parade, embarrassing

  92. I agree with most of what you are saying. Look at the Rams loading up this year before they have to pay Goff and the other talent on entry level contracts next year. If Wentz was making 25 mill/yr how much depth would the Eagles have to shed? Definately no Foles and some of those large contracts on defense would be gone.

    I would like to point out though that Brady’s cap hit is 22 mill, his base salary is 14 mill. While still underpaid in a world where Kirk Cousins just received 30 mill/yr guaranteed for a far less polished resume that 8 mill still represents a few players the Pats can’t afford. It also helps that Tom wouldn’t be the breadwinner in that family even if he has the highest paid QB. He’s not one of those players who has to feed his family.
    ___________________

    When Brady won the SB he only counted $14 million against the cap. This year it is higher, currently-check again by the start of the year. We will see how that goes this year with a little higher salary cap. But how much over 14 mill he lets go is irrelevant. Since they play so long. Tom Brady has made over $197 MILLION over his long career. There is no need to mention that his wife earns good money. If his wife earned minimum wage and he had 25 children, he would have made enough money at this lower annual amount and he still has what, 5 super bowl rings!!!!! Teams pay for SB’s not to make QB’s rich or secure in their future. All the other players seem to do quite well on their much smaller salaries it seems. So, I wish people would please stop even mentioning Tom Brady’s wife. How much do you make to be happy? And how much do you need? Most NFL players do QUITE WELL! These QB need to stop eating up all the cap money from their own players!!!! Its now become a case of the rich getting richer and the used get poorer. A solid vet can hardly find a darn job anymore!

  93. A Patriot fan, obviously, complaining about the other team “cheating” may just be a bit hypocritical.

    streetyson says:

    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am

    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

  94. streetyson says:

    May 17, 2018 at 6:56 am

    Went overboard with sports science – says the multiple PED cheat.

    Won a SB? Refs had to allow illegal formation on the Philly Special, ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD, and ignore Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary, to gift Philly a 21-point differential in a one-score victory. And because the Pats reached the SB, folks forget they were one of the most banged up teams in the league last year. But don’t worry Lame, they’ll get healthy again, while you’ll be banned before you ever reach another title.

    Look at the replays. Alshon asked the line judge if he was okay at the spot he was lined up. The LG gave him the okay. But where he was lined up is a 50/50 judgement call. So throw that excuse out the window.

    Hogan & Gronk being mugged on the final Mary. What are you smoking? Can we add all the non-holding calls on the Pats that weren’t called during the game? Negated

    ignore bobbling rules to allow a TD. The Ertz TD was nothing against the rule. When he took 3 steps established himself as a runner and broke the plane it was a TD. Now the Clement TD you have something to defend. But a game isn’t decided on one play.

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