Packers sign second-rounder Josh Jackson

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The Packers selected two cornerbacks in the first two rounds of this year’s draft and they now have both of them under contract.

The team announced on Thursday that second-round pick Josh Jackson has agreed to his deal. First-rounder Jaire Alexander signed earlier this week and the Packers now have 10 of their 11 picks under contract. Third-round linebacker Oren Burks remains unsigned.

Jackson was a wide receiver when he arrived at Iowa, but the move to the other side of the ball proved to be a good one as he developed into one of the top cornerbacks in the country last season. He was named an All-American after intercepting eight passes and returning two for touchdowns for the Hawkeyes in 2017.

He and Alexander should both be in the mix for early playing time on a Packers defense that’s been revamped this offseason with new coordinator Mike Pettine taking over for Dom Capers.

95 responses to “Packers sign second-rounder Josh Jackson

  1. Kevin King CB

    Tramon Williams CB

    Davon House CB

    Jaire Alexander CB

    Josh Jackson CB

    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.

    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy.

  2. Gotta admit I thoroughly enjoyed reading Vikings fans’ complaints when they didn’t take JJ with their first round pick. The joy was two-fold when he managed to slip to the Packers in the second round.

  3. ariani1985 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:28 am

    two CB under 5’8″!!! this is going to be a fun train wreck!!
    —————————————————————————–
    Jaire Alexander is 5’10” and Josh Jackson is 6’0″.

    Dude, if you’re going to post something, at least get your facts straight, or don’t post at all.

  4. Welcome to the greener pastures. Just what you wanted, right? No one traps their draftees like the Green Bay Packers. At least these guys can look forward to leaving in four or five years. Four or five looong years.

  5. That was a good pick by the Packers. A lot of mock drafts had them taking him with their first round pick and they managed to get him with their second. Rookie cornerbacks don’t usually have a big impact in their first year but maybe the Packers are on their way to a competent secondary in the future.

  6. Seems like the Packers entire draft was need based. 2 CB’s and 3 WR’s. Better hope this new GM gets the draft right cause after they re sign Rodgers they aren’t going to have money for free agency for a long time.

  7. Kevin King CB
    Tramon Williams CB
    Davon House CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Josh Jackson CB

    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.
    =====

    LB is still the Packers weakest position group.

    Nobody on the list there strikes fear into anyone. 3 unproven guys, and 2 vets on the wrong side of their prime? C’mon.

    I like the young corners, but they’re hardly a sure thing.

  8. freefromwhatyouare says:

    May 17, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Kevin King CB

    Tramon Williams CB

    Davon House CB

    Jaire Alexander CB

    Josh Jackson CB

    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.

    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy.
    =============================================================

    King – a 2nd year guy with chronic shoulder issues

    Williams – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for

    House – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for

    Alexander/ Jackson- rookies. CB isn’t a position that you just come in and dominate.

    GB’s weakest position group is LB on defense

    Why does your fan base continually over value the talent of the team? It’s almost like you don’t live in the real world.

    Boy, you sure are worried about Cousins, aren’t you. He will be fine. He’s already been working out with the position players prior to OTA’s. He has all of training camp to be up to speed.

    PS Your roster is not deep and strong. If it were, your team wouldn’t have dropped off a cliff when AR was tackled legally by Barr.

    PPS you aren’t supposed to drink the bong water….

  9. Vikings are going to own these corners. They’re tiny!!!!! Theilen is going to push these two around like rag dolls.
    It’ll be another year where it’s all on Juicy ARodge!! Can’t wait until Cousins goes into lambeau in week 2 and come out with a W!
    We all know Barr will be the “spy”……if Juicy ARodge rolls out he’ll be there to greet him!!! Woooooooooo!!

  10. “ariani1985 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:28 am

    two CB under 5’8″!!! this is going to be a fun train wreck!
    _____________________________________________

    Got it wrong Ariel. Jackson’s 6′.
    You’re probably thinking about Hughes, the 5’10” CB with short arms and little hands that the Queens reached for at 30.

  11. Packers got 2 of the top 3 college CB’s against the pass. Look up what they give up as passer ratings.

  12. Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy.

    >>

    That’s hilarious. Your roster is pathetic, and week 2 is the perfect time for Cousins to roll into town and hang 4TDS on your young secondary. By the way, have all the young corners you want when you did nothing to address your pass rush this offseason.

    I remember last year when the two rookie defensive backs were going to ‘bolster’ the pass defense and they improved from 31st to 32nd. Skolololol!!!!

    Enjoy watching us in January from your couch.

  13. Lol. We reached for Hughes. He’s the most complete cover corner in the draft.
    Remember all you GB ruby’s saying Waynes was a bust?? Lol!! Waynes will handle any receiver on GB roster, any of them!!
    We ALL KNOW Zimmer is great with corners so I’m guessing I’ll be laughing when Hughes turns out to be a stud!!

  14. I like the young corners, but they hardly a sure thing.

    ===================

    No one said the rookie corners are a sure thing right away. Kevin King and Tramon can start on outside and Jaire can get his feet wet in the slot where he thrived in college.

    If Jackson or Jaire have amazing camps one can take Tramons starting spot outside. Tramon can then play the middle in nickel and dime.

    As someone above said the future looks bright at CB in Green Bay.

  15. freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Kevin King CB
    Tramon Williams CB
    Davon House CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Josh Jackson CB
    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.
    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy.

    bridgeh2o says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA…….”the roster deep and strong in gbay”?? For real? If it was that deep and strong, the depth should have helped them get to the playoffs last year.

    Face it, your defense blows. Thielen, Diggs, Cook, and Cousins will dismantle you.

    Our defense dismantled Erin, literally.

    It will be unfair this year. The league will see the how a full TEAM plays.

    You are the gbay Rodgers. Nothing wrong with that, well, except for your “defense”.

    We can’t wait.

    Your battle is for 3rd…..we have no equal in our division.

    Yes, your football life will suck for a handful of years. Sorry about your situation.

    SKOL!!!!!!!

  16. Williams – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for
    House – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for
    =====

    Both left in free agency for big money. ‘Let go’ is relative.

    Tramon Williams would have made the Packers significantly better the last few years.

    House won’t make the team unless Jackson or Alexander flat out can’t play.

  17. mattchew182 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    Seems like the Packers entire draft was need based. 2 CB’s and 3 WR’s. Better hope this new GM gets the draft right cause after they re sign Rodgers they aren’t going to have money for free agency for a long time.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    They are expected to have over 50 mil. in cap space next year and are probably going to base Rodger’s extension off that. There should be no problem signing his extension and staying out of cap purgatory.

  18. billtetley53 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    Why does your fan base continually over value the talent of the team? It’s almost like you don’t live in the real world.
    ____________________

    Same question for you Purples, proclaiming the Vikings are better at every single position except one for the past few years. Better front office, better facility, better everything…..

    You have two playoff victories in 13 seasons. An amazing dynasty, that is.

  19. King – a 2nd year guy with chronic shoulder issues

    Williams – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for

    House – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for

    Alexander/ Jackson- rookies. CB isn’t a position that you just come in and dominate.

    GB’s weakest position group is LB on defense

    Why does your fan base continually over value the talent of the team? It’s almost like you don’t live in the real world.

    Boy, you sure are worried about Cousins, aren’t you. He will be fine. He’s already been working out with the position players prior to OTA’s. He has all of training camp to be up to speed.

    PS Your roster is not deep and strong. If it were, your team wouldn’t have dropped off a cliff when AR was tackled legally by Barr.

    PPS you aren’t supposed to drink the bong water….

    _____________________________________________________________________

    Man Bill, for the first half of this post, you made some good points but then you reverted back to that angry Bill by making unwarranted insults. Why is it that that is all we ever get from you – anger and insults??? We should call you Bill “The Repeater” Tetley. Guess you didn’t look in the mirror yet.

  20. Enjoy watching us in January from your couch.
    ======

    Mike McCarthy won’t be employed in that situation… so it wouldn’t be all bad.

    … but it would be for you. The Packers would at least have the opportunity to hire a competent head coach. You don’t want that.

  21. bondlake says:
    May 17, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    ariani1985 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:28 am

    two CB under 5’8″!!! this is going to be a fun train wreck!!
    —————————————————————————–
    Jaire Alexander is 5’10” and Josh Jackson is 6’0″.

    Dude, if you’re going to post something, at least get your facts straight, or don’t post at all.
    ————————
    LOLOLOLOL – this is hilarious!!! Typical SKOL fan. This clown epitomizes all Viking fans. Way to go bond lake guy – way to make em proud. Now go polish up your 2017 3rd place trophy.

  22. vikings28 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    Vikings are going to own these corners. They’re tiny!!!!! Theilen is going to push these two around like rag dolls.</b?
    ——————–

    Good point. We all know Vikings receivers get away with a lot of offensive pass interference. Who knows, maybe the refs will start calling it this year.

  23. Thank God you MN fans are here to put us in our place. What are we thinking getting all excited about our much improved team? Just stupid. Thanks for setting us straight oh great leaders of the north with your one playoff win this decade.

  24. Frazier28/7 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    Enjoy watching us in January from your couch.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….

    Sure enjoyed from my couch that January game last year in Philadelphia where Minnesota attempted to look like an NFL team. How about you?

  25. two CB under 5’8″!!! this is going to be a fun train wreck!!
    ——
    Do you ever look at the amount of thumbs down your posts get and ask yourself why you still do it? I would…

  26. Your battle is for 3rd…..we have no equal in our division.

    Yes, your football life will suck for a handful of years. Sorry about your situation.

    SKOL!!!!!!!
    ——-
    Wow, someone let their first playoff win since 2009 go to their head. Whatever works for you man.

  27. What are we thinking getting all excited about our much improved
    –)))
    What exactly has improved?
    Rookies corners?
    Graham?
    Rodgers shoulder might be the same but improved?
    Rookie late round WRs?
    What?

  28. Haha!! Vikings receivers pushing off, that’s pretty funny.
    Nothing like the push offs GB has done on a couple of those Hail Mary’s!!!! Burn. You feeling that?!?!
    Ric Flais loves it! Wooooooooooooooooo!!!

  29. lambeauandlombardi says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    Frazier28/7 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    Enjoy watching us in January from your couch.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….

    Sure enjoyed from my couch that January game last year in Philadelphia where Minnesota attempted to look like an NFL team. How about you?

    ————-

    At least we had a dog in the fight.

  30. Green Bay drafts new corners pretty much every year in the first round, and yet their defense never improved. It’s possible thou these could end up being starters thou with the new staff in place. Anything is possible. Chances Green Bay will have a average defense at best, and go with their typical MO – Score 30 points from Aaron Rodgers, or lose.

  31. freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Kevin King CB

    Tramon Williams CB

    Davon House CB

    Jaire Alexander CB

    Josh Jackson CB

    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.

    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy

    ///////////////////////////

    Interesting, there are two other teams in the NFCN, the Bears and Lions but pack fan always focuses on the Vikings. We truly live rent free in their heads.

  32. At least we had a dog in the fight.
    ——
    Yes you did, for the first time in nearly 10 years. Not sure that one playoff win justifies the ridiculous level of trash talk though…

  33. What exactly has improved?
    —–
    Not sure why I bother, but to humor you, we’ve improved at oc, dc, gm, te, d line, and cb. That’s not enough for you troll boy?

  34. pkrlvr says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    At least we had a dog in the fight.
    ——
    Yes you did, for the first time in nearly 10 years. Not sure that one playoff win justifies the ridiculous level of

    trash talk though…

    —————–

    8 years. Our last playoff win was in 2010. And I don’t think either team’s fans should be trash talking. The Vikings fans shouldn’t because of lack of success in the playoffs in recent years, and the Packers shouldn’t due to having a pretty bad overall roster outside of Aaron Rodgers. One play ruined the season for them. The fact is both teams have an equal chance of winning the division if not set back by major injuries.

  35. flviking says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Kevin King CB

    Tramon Williams CB

    Davon House CB

    Jaire Alexander CB

    Josh Jackson CB

    And this is Green Bays weakest position group. That awkward moment the NFC North foes realize the kings of the north are back and going to own.

    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy

    ///////////////////////////

    Interesting, there are two other teams in the NFCN, the Bears and Lions but pack fan always focuses on the Vikings. We truly live rent free in their heads.

    ————-

    It’s only because we are the only other team that has stepped and actually been competitive with the Packers in recent years.

    Packers and Vikings have the same Win-Loss during the Zimmer/McCarthy rivalry era. I think this year will be like 2015. A struggle to the end. Looking forward to it.

  36. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2018 at 2:42 pm
    What are we thinking getting all excited about our much improved
    –)))
    What exactly has improved?
    Rookies corners?
    Graham?
    Rodgers shoulder might be the same but improved?
    Rookie late round WRs?
    What?
    ______________________

    Mike Pettine as DC rather than Dom Capers.
    Our two leading rushers getting a second year to further understand the offense.
    I don’t care how washed up Jimmy Graham is, he’s better than Richard Rodgers.
    Wilkerson.
    Nick Perry can play without a club on his hand.
    Aaron Rodgers might not miss half the season.
    Third year leap for the NFL’s leading tackler Blake Martinez.
    And even though this is a reach, I expect Michael Clark to have a very good season.
    We don’t expect Brett Hundley (or Kizer) to play nearly as much.
    Special teams improvement largely fueled by the 11 incoming draft picks.

    These provide reasons for optimism.

  37. pkrlvr says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    What exactly has improved?
    —–
    Not sure why I bother, but to humor you, we’ve improved at oc, dc, gm, te, d line, and cb. That’s not enough for you troll boy?
    ============================
    Not sure what makes you think you’ve improved drastically.

    Wilkerson is a malcontent that you are counting on to play for a big contract.
    Graham is a shell of what he once was. Can he regain his form( more than a red zone threat?)
    Philbin was an ok OC before. What has he done since?
    Pettine? I’m sure anything looks better after Capers, but his defenses haven’t struck fear in anyone.
    I am not going to touch GM because he has to be judged on these things a few years down the road.

    I stated above about the corners.

    You don’t turn around a bottom of the barrel defense in 1 year, it just doesn’t happen.

  38. Man Bill, for the first half of this post, you made some good points but then you reverted back to that angry Bill by making unwarranted insults. Why is it that that is all we ever get from you – anger and insults??? We should call you Bill “The Repeater” Tetley. Guess you didn’t look in the mirror yet.
    ==================================================================

    Where did I actually insult anyone? Real world? Bong water? Come on!

    This post smells like a name change by redundantperformance. You’re wont to take something that you’ve been called and try to turn it around and put it back on them.

    If not, he isn’t someone you should strive to be compared too.

  39. eaststsfb says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    King – a 2nd year guy with chronic shoulder issues

    Williams – retread that GB let go once already- cut by the team he left for

    ******************************************************

    I’ll just say this for Tramon Williams – in 2017, he took over as a starter in week 6, and for the season, Pro Football Focus had him at 58.4 passer rating when targeted and he finished with their 9th best CB rating for the year. Given that he was playing opposite Patrick Peterson, it wasn’t like he was just not being targeted because the guy opposite him was a sieve – he was the clear #2 CB on that team and played well. He may well decline this year, but to be fair, he was real solid last season. Let’s hope for another year of that!

  40. 1 let me repeat that. 1 I’ll repeat it again. 1 that’s how many playoff wins y’all have in like the last 10yrs vikings fans so please do the most championship winning team in football a favor and shut up please.. Win a ring with a QB y’all are stupidly paying 90mil to

  41. billtetley53 says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    pkrlvr says:

    May 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    What exactly has improved?
    —–
    Not sure why I bother, but to humor you, we’ve improved at oc, dc, gm, te, d line, and cb. That’s not enough for you troll boy?
    ============================
    Not sure what makes you think you’ve improved drastically.

    Wilkerson is a malcontent that you are counting on to play for a big contract.
    Graham is a shell of what he once was. Can he regain his form( more than a red zone threat?)
    Philbin was an ok OC before. What has he done since?
    Pettine? I’m sure anything looks better after Capers, but his defenses haven’t struck fear in anyone.
    I am not going to touch GM because he has to be judged on these things a few years down the road.

    I stated above about the corners.

    You don’t turn around a bottom of the barrel defense in 1 year, it just doesn’t happen.

    ——————–

    I agree you don’t turn around a bottom defense in one year, but it can improve. The Vikings defense was dead last when Zimmer took over the team. It improved to middle of the pack, and than the next few years it’s been in the top of the league. If the Packers defense is going to really improved, expect to see more of it in 2019….if it happens at all.

  42. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:59 am
    “revamped” is code for year 1 rebuild. Straight out of big Mike’s mouth.
    //////////////////////

    Fight-picking Fake News. Playbook revamp. Not rebuild. Try again.

  43. May 17, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    1 let me repeat that. 1 I’ll repeat it again. 1 that’s how many playoff wins y’all have in like the last 10yrs vikings fans so please do the most championship winning team in football a favor and shut up please.. Win a ring with a QB y’all are stupidly paying 90mil to

    ———–

    You mean the Steelers? Last time I checked they have the most real championships. Most of us don’t care about the 9 “championships” that happened before the league we know now wasn’t even formed, when only a handful of teams were even around, and when most of us probably weren’t even alive. Brag about your 4 which is still less than the Steelers and Patriots.

  44. billtetley53 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Pettine? I’m sure anything looks better after Capers, but his defenses haven’t struck fear in anyone.
    _______________________

    IN 2009 Mike Pettine was defensive coordinator that finished first in both points allowed and yards against. Just like your 2017 Vikings.

    There you have it, billtetley basically saying the Vikings defense is Nothing to Fear.

  45. Packers D ranked #22 two years in a row. Hardly bottom of the barrel. It won’t take a lot to improve. They got outplayed in the NFCCG against Atlanta. What’s the Vikings’ excuse, with their No.1 “vaunted” defense.

    This ought to be good.

  46. Interesting, there are two other teams in the NFCN, the Bears and Lions but pack fan always focuses on the Vikings. We truly live rent free in their heads.
    —–
    Hey captain oblivious, do you see lions and bears fans in here trash talking? We’ve got 20 plus posts from Viking trolls, then when we respind you say your living in our heads. Get real bud.

  47. stellarperformance says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Packers D ranked #22 two years in a row. Hardly bottom of the barrel. It won’t take a lot to improve. They got outplayed in the NFCCG against Atlanta. What’s the Vikings’ excuse, with their No.1 “vaunted” defense.

    This ought to be good.

    ————————-

    Most of us don’t have excesses for that game. They got out coached, out played. But it’s one game, and the Vikings defense has been pretty good last couple of years. The Vikings defense is fine. Maybe reason for that game in general is lack of deph in the defensive line. The Vikings front is good, but because of lack of deph they get fatigued when on the field too much. That resulted in a lack of pass rush in the Eagles game, which made the corners have to cover longer and get burned. The Eagles biggest strength was their deph at that position. Even good defenses can improve areas. The Vikings biggest area to improve is their deph a D-line, and depth at Offensive Line.

  48. ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 3:39 pm
    stellarperformance says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    Packers D ranked #22 two years in a row. Hardly bottom of the barrel. It won’t take a lot to improve. They got outplayed in the NFCCG against Atlanta. What’s the Vikings’ excuse, with their No.1 “vaunted” defense.

    This ought to be good.

    ————————-

    Most of us don’t have excesses for that game. They got out coached, out played. But it’s one game, and the Vikings defense has been pretty good last couple of years. The Vikings defense is fine. Maybe reason for that game in general is lack of deph in the defensive line. The Vikings front is good, but because of lack of deph they get fatigued when on the field too much. That resulted in a lack of pass rush in the Eagles game, which made the corners have to cover longer and get burned. The Eagles biggest strength was their deph at that position. Even good defenses can improve areas. The Vikings biggest area to improve is their deph a D-line, and depth at Offensive Line.

    /////////////////////////

    That makes too much sense AJ. I’ll respond for stella, “ oh yeah, well my mom can beat up your mom”

  49. ajzinnecker says:
    May 17, 2018 at 3:25 pm
    May 17, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    1 let me repeat that. 1 I’ll repeat it again. 1 that’s how many playoff wins y’all have in like the last 10yrs vikings fans so please do the most championship winning team in football a favor and shut up please.. Win a ring with a QB y’all are stupidly paying 90mil to

    ———–

    You mean the Steelers? Last time I checked they have the most real championships. Most of us don’t care about the 9 “championships” that happened before the league we know now wasn’t even formed, when only a handful of teams were even around, and when most of us probably weren’t even alive. Brag about your 4 which is still less than the Steelers and Patriots.

    ////////////////////

    And the Cowboys and 49ers. But the pack did beat up on the Stanton Island Stapletons, yes the Stayton Island Stapletons, snicker

  50. Why are Packer’s fans talking trash when their roster is one injury away from 5-11.

    The team is trash aside from Rodgers, and it has been for the last decade. Just look at what you do without him. He’s just good enough he can carry the rest of them on his back like Brady does.

  51. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:59 am
    “revamped” is code for year 1 rebuild. Straight out of big Mike’s mouth.
    //////////////////////
    Fight-picking Fake News. Playbook revamp. Not rebuild. Try again
    —-
    You sound like Donald Trump. 😋 keep it up! It’s funny.

  52. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2018 at 4:16 pm
    I’ll respond for stella, “ oh yeah, well my mom can beat up your mom”
    —-)
    Then there his ol’ reliable “he started it”.
    _______________________

    Says the Viking fan with four posts on every Packer thread. At best, you are just like him. And most often you aren’t at your best.

  53. packertruth says:

    May 17, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    billtetley53 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    Pettine? I’m sure anything looks better after Capers, but his defenses haven’t struck fear in anyone.
    _______________________

    IN 2009 Mike Pettine was defensive coordinator that finished first in both points allowed and yards against. Just like your 2017 Vikings.

    There you have it, billtetley basically saying the Vikings defense is Nothing to Fear.
    ===============================================================================

    Ugh,

    09 = 1
    10 =6
    11= 20
    12 = 20
    13= 20

    years and ranks of his defense.

    Number 1 when he took over and steered them down to 20.

    You don’t have the horses on defense- not scared of his defense at all

  54. The team is trash aside from Rodgers, and it has been for the last decade. Just look at what you do without him. He’s just good enough he can carry the rest of them on his back like Brady does.
    ======

    The only (singular) year Rodgers has had a top 5 D, he won the Super Bowl.

    Brady defenses that won the Super Bowl with; 6th, 1st, 2nd, 8th, 1st

    Brady defenses that lost the Super Bowl with; 4th, 15th, 5th

    Brady has never carried ish.

  55. billtetley53 says:
    May 17, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    Number 1 when he took over and steered them down to 20.
    ______________________

    Actually in 2008 the Jets defense was 18th. They improved to first in Pettine’s first season.

  56. Amazing how many Viking fans come here you would think they won the Super Bowl last year rather than choke in the championship game that they never should have been in , I think they are very afraid of the Packers this coming season being as they overpaid a average QB who is afraid of the cold weather . I think the Bears will do better than the Vikings .

  57. Mike Pettine as DC in New York: His defenses ranked 1st, 3rd, 5th, 8th in the NFL.

    He took over DC in Buffalo in 2013 and his defense ranked 10th in NFL.

    You can spin it any way you want, but this guy is a good DC.

    With the defense trending up and the offense getting back a healthy and hungry A Rod and Joe Philbin making Mike McCarthy look like the best player caller in the league like he last did in 2011..This team is ready for big things in 2018.

  58. I like the two guys the Packers picked this year, but I can’t help but remember the 2015 draft when they also drafted two corners in Damarius Randall and Quinten Rollins. CBS Sports recently regraded the 2015 draft and gave the Packers a D+. There are no guarantees that the guys you drafted are going to greatly improve your team.

    Apropos of nothing, the Vikings’ redraft grade was A+. Just thought I’d mention it in case anyone was wondering.

  59. freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 17, 2018 at 11:54 am

    Roster deep and strong in Green Bay. I’d hate to be Kirk Cousins still getting used to a new team having to come into Lambeau week 2. Poor guy
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    Thanks for your concern but I don’t think Kirk is losing any sleep about facing that “deep and strong” roster.

    By the way, “deep and strong” usually means something different from “team falls apart when one player gets injured.”

  60. The Packers are going to be just fine this year. The same usual suspect Viking trolls like to post their insults and putdowns and fake news because they wish they were us, and they wish they had what we have, and they wish they could enjoy what we’ve enjoyed as Packer fans.

    Understand…..they have nothing. Every year…..wishing, hoping, and praying. That’s it. The only bragging rights they have is an occasional “SuperBowl” victory over the Packers. The only ammunition they have to fight with is picking fights, to make up for their severe frustration. It makes them feel better about themselves. That’s all they have!

    Think about it………what victory…..in the history of their franchise……has provided anything as close to the pride and satisfaction Packer fans have experienced? Beating the Packers! That’s it! That’s why they’re here! They think they understand winning! That’s why they prefer Packer stories to Viking stories. Heck, who wouldn’t?

  61. I was going by points allowed, which is a better indicator of how good a defense is.

    Anyway, you have to have the horses to be a good defense. GB does not.

    I have a feeling you packers fans are going to be disappointed this year.

  62. For those of you who are confused, Bill Tetley is using the Jets’ ranking in points against while freefromwhatyouare is using the Jets’ ranking in yards against. Neither statistic alone tells the story of how good a defense is, but one thing we do know is that your defense is pretty darn good if you’re #1 in both.

  63. I was not using “the Jets ranking in yards”

    Overall defense ranking in the NFL for Mike Pettine years as DC

    2009: (Jets) 1st overall defense in NFL

    2010: (Jets) 3rd overall defense in NFL

    2011: (Jets) 5th overall defense in NFL

    2012: (Jets) 8th overall defense in NFL

    2013: (Buffalo) 10th overall defense in NFL

    I know a lot of you are fearful of facts, but you will get them from me so don’t read my posts if facts trigger you the way they obviously do.

  64. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:00 pm
    For those of you who are confused, Bill Tetley is using the Jets’ ranking in points against while freefromwhatyouare is using the Jets’ ranking in yards against. Neither statistic alone tells the story of how good a defense is, but one thing we do know is that your defense is pretty darn good if you’re #1 in both.
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    The Vikings were the best regular season defense in the league last year. Did the banner arrive yet?

  65. Honest question for Vikings fans. They say Tramon Williams, who just turned 35, is over the hill, had every bit a good season as Terrance Newman did at age 35. Newman signed with the Vikings at age 37. Exactly what year did he turn over the hill?

  66. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:41 pm
    I would pay to see Mike Pettine’s face the first time Clay Matthews petitions the league to take a sack away from a teammate and give it to himself.
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    We’d all pay to see Clay Matthews put his sack in your face.

  67. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    May 17, 2018 at 6:00 pm

    For those of you who are confused, Bill Tetley is using the Jets’ ranking in points against while freefromwhatyouare is using the Jets’ ranking in yards against. Neither statistic alone tells the story of how good a defense is, but one thing we do know is that your defense is pretty darn good if you’re #1 in both.
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    Right. So in 2008 the Jets ranked 18th in points against and 16th in yards against. Then in 2009 they ranked first in both categories.

    But Billtetley said “Pettine? I’m sure anything looks better after Capers, but his defenses haven’t struck fear in anyone.”

    So Pettine’s top-ranked defense, by whatever metric used, was pretty darn good. But because he was hired by the Packers some purples refuse to concede that point. Now apparently it’s about horses.

    The Vikings can be good without the Packers having to suck. You don’t need to be a magician to concede that point.

  68. Jesus. I stated I used points against. They went from #1 to # 20 in 4 years. They were #20 in Buffalo his one year there.

    Just because his defense was good in new York 9 years ago, doesn’t mean it will be good this year. Dom Capers should have taught you that.

    Ok 1 year, nearly a decade ago, he had a good defense. Happy?

    And if you are too simple to understand, by horses, I mean players.

    He doesnt have the talent level in GB he had in NY.
    Get it?

    Points is a better indicator. How many times does a prevent defense give up 80 yards at the end of games? Alot.

  69. Gosh Bill you seem testy. What about 2010 when they were 6th in points against and 3rd in yards against? Isn’t that okay?

    Remember with the horses the Jets had in 2008 they finished 18th and 16th. 2007 19th and 18th.

    It seems like he did ok helping turn around a middling defense. Sorry you had to have a tooth pulled to admit that.

  70. packertruth says:

    May 17, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Gosh Bill you seem testy. What about 2010 when they were 6th in points against and 3rd in yards against? Isn’t that okay?

    Remember with the horses the Jets had in 2008 they finished 18th and 16th. 2007 19th and 18th.

    It seems like he did ok helping turn around a middling defense. Sorry you had to have a tooth pulled to admit that
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    Please explain the drop off in points allowed all the way down to #20 for 3 consecutive years.

    You act like stats from nearly a decade ago matter to this packers team.

    Rookies, am injury prone guy, and aging vets cut by other reams for Db’s

    Slow linebackers in Martinez and Ryan, anging overpaid Matthews, and a guy who only plays well in contract years

    A malcontent and a never was and Daniels on the line.

    You have 2 above average to elite players in Daniels and Dix….that’s it.

  71. Anyway, you have to have the horses to be a good defense. GB does not.

    I have a feeling you packers fans are going to be disappointed this year.
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    Nah.

    Any given season, Rodgers could put up 2011 numbers and carry the team to the Super Bowl. (unlikely, but possible)

    .. and if they continue to flounder, McCarthy will finally get what is coming to him.

    Win-Win.

  72. Slow linebackers in Martinez and Ryan, anging overpaid Matthews, and a guy who only plays well in contract years

    A malcontent and a never was and Daniels on the line.

    You have 2 above average to elite players in Daniels and Dix….that’s it.
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    Please keep sleeping on Martinez. He was the Packers MVP last year.

    Ryan is a role player. They’re not expecting him to be Urlacher or Ray Lewis.

    They have half-a-dozen young guys that have a chance to be above average. I expect a middle of the pack defense, but they have a core that could easily turn the corner in the next couple years if Pettine is legit.

    .. Simply dumping Capers and his dark ages scheme should be an improvement.

  73. They have half-a-dozen young guys that have a chance to be above average.

    So does every team in the NFL. Some players will rise some won’t. At this point it all hope.

  74. Please explain the drop off in points allowed all the way down to #20 for 3 consecutive years.

    You act like stats from nearly a decade ago matter to this packers team.
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    If you recall your original post claimed no one was ever afraid to play a Pettine defense. Then you inaccurately claimed he took over a top-ranked defense and made it progressively worse.

    I merely pointed out that Pettine actually coordinated a defense ranked 1st in both metrics previously discussed. And did it in his first season after inheriting a middling defense.

    You could have said “I didn’t realize that.” Or stayed silent.

    Mike Zimmer finished inside the top 12 in scoring defense just twice in his first eleven seasons as a defensive coordinator. Pettine did it his first two. Zimmer also finished with units ranking 19th or below seven times in that timespan.

    As for “slow” linebacker Blake Martinez (who had 144 tackles last season) he ran a 4.71 at the combine. Anthony Barr ran a 4.66. Is Anthony Barr slow?

  75. packertruth says:
    May 17, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    The Vikings can be good without the Packers having to suck. You don’t need to be a magician to concede that point.
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    Agreed. And yet some of you keep saying that the Vikings were only good last year because Rodgers got hurt. That’s some kind of magic if Rodgers’ presence can affect Viking games that don’t involve the Packers.

  76. Agreed. And yet some of you keep saying that the Vikings were only good last year because Rodgers got hurt.
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    I read the Packer boards pretty often and I can’t recall reading that. It doesn’t even make sense.

    I see some posit that it was the only reason the Vikings won the division. Which is highly unlikely, but plausible to them because the Packers were 4-1 when he got hurt (and losing to the Vikings, yes).

    I can freely admit the Vikings were the superior team to Green Bay last season. And have. But last season and the upcoming season are two different animals. Players have good years and bad years. Injuries that cripple a unit could occur. A new system could be difficult to pick up. etc. and so on.

    But the knee-jerk posts that everything your team does sucks, is stupid, and/or is bound to end in failure? It’s like the playground in 7th grade.

  77. But the knee-jerk posts that everything your team does sucks,
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    There is nothing knee jerk about it. The Packers will have 1 player in the NFLs top 100 this year. 1. Their roster save Rodgers is garbage and no amount of rookies or coaching changes will change that this coming year. Just look how they played without Rodgers.

  78. cheeseisfattening says:
    May 19, 2018 at 12:18 pm
    But the knee-jerk posts that everything your team does sucks,
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    There is nothing knee jerk about it.
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    Sure Cheese. I recall your posts on the Jaire Alexander thread on draft day.

    cheeseisfattening says:
    April 26, 2018 at 10:13 pm
    Who?
    HaHaHaHa! All that plotting yesterday for naught. So glad TT was in the Packer draft room giving advice!!
    HaHaHaHa!

    ++++++++++

    Knee Jerk. You posted that before you even did your google search to find negative comments about Alexander. It’s almost like you were going to post something negative about whomever the Packers picked.

    Subtract the almost.

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