NFL: Eli Manning civil fraud settlement “not a Personal Conduct Policy issue”

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As a civil fraud lawsuit against Giants quarterback Eli Manning was pending, the NFL consistently declined comment on whether the Personal Conduct Policy applied to the allegations or any of the evidence that had come to light. Now that the civil case has been resolved, the NFL has commented on the situation.

“We monitored the situation and are satisfied that it is a civil matter that was resolved,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT via email. “Not a [Personal Conduct Policy] issue.”

The Personal Conduct Policy expressly encompasses “[c]rimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering.” The NFL, by referring to the situation as a “civil matter” in its comment on the Manning situation, apparently has concluded that, without a prosecution, there can be no crime of fraud — even if actual fraud has occurred.

Of course, Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott wasn’t prosecuted, charged, or even sued in civil court. But he was suspended six games for violating the Personal Conduct Policy.

As explained last month, there’s a fine line (and maybe no line) between civil and criminal fraud. If the NFL wanted to use the allegations of memorabilia fraud, the evidence generated during the trial, the fact that Eli Manning settled the lawsuit in lieu of testifying in open court about the situation (including but not limited to answering aggressive questions about an email message in which he asked for “2 helmets that can pass as game used“) as the basis for an investigation, it easily could have. Arguably, given the extent to which the Personal Conduct Policy and other league policies premised on the integrity of and public confidence in the professional football are applied to other players, the NFL should have.

Although Eli Manning is by all accounts a great guy who does great things in the community (his work on behalf of children fighting cancer is beyond admirable), any plausible claim that any player has committed fraud in connection with the sale of items used during NFL games should give the NFL concern. If there’s a “good guy” or a “favored team” exception for memorabilia fraud, will similar exceptions be made when questions emerge in future years regarding whether a player is accused of betting on NFL games, shaving points, and/or throwing games?

117 responses to “NFL: Eli Manning civil fraud settlement “not a Personal Conduct Policy issue”

  1. I’m amazed that the same people who want the NFL out of the justice business jump all over it when it’s not their team. Can’t have it both ways folks.

  2. What a “cop out” by the NFL.

    Since when is committing fraud selling licensed NFL game used apparel a “civil matter”?

  3. Boy, the NFL sure is about integrity. What a joke. Both brothers don’t even get taps on the noses for behavior that’s certainly unbecoming of the league. This makes me want to puke. If the league’s going to punish players, then, by golly, punish everyone. I’m almost fed up enough with the NFL to stop watching. Between screwing fans out of every dollar they can squeeze and the comish’s absurd sense of “justice,” the whole thing’s turning into a bad joke. Gag.

  4. Pathetic. You can’t touch a Manning or a Giants quarterback. Worthless Maras run the league. John Mara was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. And Goodell is his puppet.

  5. redlikethepig says:
    May 19, 2018 at 10:49 am
    I’m amazed that the same people who want the NFL out of the justice business jump all over it when it’s not their team. Can’t have it both ways folks.

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    Perhaps they just want equal application of “justice” across all teams and all players

  6. Honestly, I expected another cheating statement from Goodell on this, but I simple still cannot believe he cheats so openly with tumbling ratings.

    You’d think they would put it together.

    This is the main reason the ratings are dropping. Inconsistency, lying and cheating.

    This is the very definition of integrity, he frames the Patriots to steal picks, the Giants benefitted in 2 super bowls with the framejobs and this past year, philly benefitted of off 2 more stolen draft picks missing and 2 illegal touchdowns right in front of everyone to see.

  7. If you were not convinced that the giants get the most favorable outcome and benefit of the doubt from the NFL front office, you absolutely should be after reading this article. Some players get fined for having their socks at the improper length on game days just as a frame of reference for some of you readers.

  8. The lawsuit was frivolous. Elliott putting hands on women happened. That’s the difference.

  9. Soooo, I guess that when you pay someone off, settle out of court and avoid a trial you’re good to go.

    Right NFL?

    It’s the Mara’s. Nothing was going to happen to Eli anyway. Same thing with HGH Peyton. The NFL good ol’ boys club continues to roll….

  10. “If there’s a “good guy” or a “favored team” exception for memorabilia fraud, will similar exceptions be made when questions emerge in future years regarding whether a player is accused of betting on NFL games, shaving points, and/or throwing games?’

    Do the Mannings have ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ cards? Obviously.
    Do NY teams possess the NFL version of ‘Most Favored Nation” status? Absolutely
    Does any of that bear on this decision? Heck no.

    From the beginning the NFL had no intention of wading into the cesspool that is the memorabilia business, there is no W to be found there. It could have been the Saints, Cowboys, Chiefs, Brady, Incognito or even Hardy and it would not have mattered. The only surprise here is that the league didn’t didn’t force Eli to make this go away sooner.

  11. Everybody knows the deal here. Out of all 32 teams in the NFL – there is only one team where this would be investigated and of course “punished” to the fullest extent possible. The smell from Park Avenue continues to pollute the Leagues “integrity.”

  12. goodell’s disciplinary actions have always been arbitrary and strictly political, and everyone knew he was going to give Mara, a NY franchise, and the Mannings a pass unless a more powerful political block put a gun to his head and demanded punishment for what was clearly a gross violation of the personal conduct policy.

    jones is a bluffer but mara isn’t and the mannings have played real dirty to escape criminal prosecution in the past. goodell took care of goodell.

    so goodell remains a very rich puppet, the mannings add fraud to an already ugly legacy, and the precious “shield” is covered in more slime.

  13. Brady “didn’t cooperate “? That’s not what Wells said! Here is the exact quote from Wells “Brady was totally cooperative” after interviewing him for 5 hours!
    Don’t let the facts get in the way!

  14. Goodell is a Giant Fan. That is why he will look the other way when it comes to taking any negative action against the Giants. Also, I will not get into the other obvious factors, which always plays a role in disciplining other players, and protects players like Manning.

  15. This is why I cancelled my Sunday Ticket last year and I am completely done with the NFL I actually started watching WWE wrestling again at least they freely admit that it’s staged NFL and keeps denying its disgusting

  16. The first 3 paragraphs of the league’s personal conduct policy, you be the judge.

    It is a privilege to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
    Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for the NFL. We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.

    To this end, the league has increased education regarding respect and appropriate behavior, has provided resources for all employees to assist them in conforming their behavior to the standards expected of them, and has made clear that the league’s goal is to prevent violations of the Personal Conduct Policy. In order to uphold our high standards, when violations of this Personal Conduct Policy do occur, appropriate disciplinary action must follow.

  17. What a joke…………that all you trolls are hating on the Giants over this, if memorabilia belonging to athletes across the league was investigated for legitamcy there would be suspensions handed out to every team, go kick rocks trolls.

  18. If they punish Eli, the whistle blowing starts. What Eli did was done by A LOT of players in this league. The NFL is doing everything possible to separate themselves from this situation. Do not want to kill the Golden Goose that is the memorabilia business. You will not hear another word about this.

  19. This is why the NFL should have absolutely no involvement with any sports gambling. They simply do not have the ability to act with integrity when money is involved. There is no rational explanation to NOT looking into this. They calculated the financial impact of removing the starting QB from a team in their largest market that just happened to have the national media praising their potential. It doesn’t look good but they do not care because they believe the damages would be worse if they suspended him and officially tarnished the memorabilia business that I assume they have a monetary stake in.

  20. I’m sure Goodell told him and the Giants that if he settles and makes the issue go away they wouldn’t hand out any punishment.

  21. Hopefully this gets used the next time a player needs to fight the NFL.

    It just goes to show that you should never bargain away any kind of disciplinary rights, now matter how frivolous it might seem at the time, because corporations are never worried about justice, just grudges and PR.

  22. dtm1088 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:34 am
    If they punish Eli, the whistle blowing starts. What Eli did was done by A LOT of players in this league. The NFL is doing everything possible to separate themselves from this situation. Do not want to kill the Golden Goose that is the memorabilia business. You will not hear another word about this.

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    that is exactly what happened. they told him to settle instead of perjure himself in court like goodell has

    i mean, this is why the ratings are tumbling right here

    the fans are treated like fools

  23. patriots123456 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:31 am
    The first 3 paragraphs of the league’s personal conduct policy, you be the judge.

    It is a privilege to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who is part of the league must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.
    Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for the NFL. We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.

    To this end, the league has increased education regarding respect and appropriate behavior, has provided resources for all employees to assist them in conforming their behavior to the standards expected of them, and has made clear that the league’s goal is to prevent violations of the Personal Conduct Policy. In order to uphold our high standards, when violations of this Personal Conduct Policy do occur, appropriate disciplinary action must follow.
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    How are guys that intentionally try to repeatedly harm other players, like Suh, even still in the league. The same could be said of kaep…He disrespected a lot of people, he should be in huge trouble as well. It’s all about who gets to decide what’s right and wrong.

  24. Are the Giants the only untouchable team when it comes to discipline? Josh Brown, the domestic abuser, went unscathed, now Eli, who probably paid hush money to keep it out of court gets off scott free, what gives ? Yet, a guy who may or may not have deflated footballs got suspended and Elliott got suspended for something that someone who formerly worked at the NFL office didn’t think he should’ve been suspended. The NFL is the great hypocrisy.

  25. Not surprised… and yes, while this issue is nowhere near what Zeke was accused of…. the fact that we have a smoking gun of evidence against Eli in his own words, we had zero proof of Zeke’s guilt. In fact, just the opposite, that the woman specifically lied.

  26. Just because the Feds did prosecute doesn’t mean laws were
    not violated. If they used the mail to send falsified equipment
    it’s mail fraud. It also goes to the integrity of any type of
    memorabilia.
    Any arguement that includes “ if the NFL investigated Eli …
    then they could investigate other such incidents ..” is absurd.
    This case was brought to the attention of the league. The league
    has a duty to investigate.
    To ignore sends a clear signal to the public that the NFL will only
    investigate what they want. God forbid we investigate someone like
    Eli. It really smells of something that is fundamentally wrong.

  27. The Mannings are apparently above the law in regards to the NFL:

    Peyton’s “wife” starts getting HGH coincidently right after his neck surgery. Cleared. No punishment.

    Eli gets caught with his hands in the memorabilia cookie jar. Cleared. No punishment.

    And, then Goodell and the NFL wonder why nobody trusts their “investigations” and Equal application of punishments.

  28. nhpats says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:02 am
    redlikethepig says:
    May 19, 2018 at 10:49 am
    I’m amazed that the same people who want the NFL out of the justice business jump all over it when it’s not their team. Can’t have it both ways folks.
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    Perhaps they just want equal application of “justice” across all teams and all players

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    Exactly. The current NFL discipline model is to “have it both ways.” With one player/team, they’ll spend months making sure they can punish them. With a different player/team, they’ll say “No big deal” and go on their way. Playing favorites is not a way to ensure an even playing field.

  29. redlikethepig says:
    May 19, 2018 at 10:49 am
    I’m amazed that the same people who want the NFL out of the justice business jump all over it when it’s not their team. Can’t have it both ways folks.
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    Short sided at best. How about being pragmatic for a change? Since the NFL decided to be in the ‘justice business’ it should handed out fairly. Manning ripped those people off for a few bucks as evidenced by his settling the case. Elliott did nothing wrong. One gets off with no penalty and the other gets 6 games.

  30. I’m a lifelong Giants fan, and even I think this is a load of garbage. The guy violated the damn policy and gets away with it because there were no actual charges, but guys like Brady and Elliot get nailed, and were not charged either?

    Thats straight up pathetic.

  31. Not sure WHY there is NOT a collusion case AGAINST the giants and the mara family. This is all the proof that you will need, oh yeah and remember the giants kicker and the lack of suspension there, That dude was GUILTY with PROOF.
    There is DEFIANTLY a doubled standard in the NFL concerning the giants and mara.

    Zeke gets six games with NO proof and being CLEARED in the court of law. Zekes accusers was a PROVEN gold digging liar caught lying to extort Zekes money from the guy, YET mara and roger suspended ZEKE!?

  32. Why would all of the people who hate the Giants want Eli suspended at all? With him playing they likely win 6-8 games this year. With him suspended for (assuming) 4 games they may only win 3-4….and for the second year in a row have a really high draft pick. Yes they’ll be bad in 2019 but they’ll likely start to become really good by 2020. Why would you guys want that to happen? Its not like the Giants are winning a SB in 2018 with Eli playing 16 games.

  33. So if you cooperate with the NFL during an investigation instead of destroying evidence like a cell phone, things may turn out positive for you? Hopefully Brady is paying attention.

  34. NFL Football Giants player cheating NFL fans by selling fraudulent “NFL Game Worn” equipment…. thats not an NFL personal conduct issue.

  35. By allowing Eli to take the field Goodell gave the Giants the harshest punishment available.

    Thank you Roger for ensurimg another last place finish for the NY Giants

  36. suncawy says:
    May 19, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    Are the Giants the only untouchable team when it comes to discipline? Josh Brown, the domestic abuser, went unscathed, now Eli, who probably paid hush money to keep it out of court gets off scott free, what gives ? Yet, a guy who may or may not have deflated footballs got suspended and Elliott got suspended for something that someone who formerly worked at the NFL office didn’t think he should’ve been suspended. The NFL is the great hypocrisy.

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    i can tell you right now that factually, there was no deflation of any footballs.

    that is a fact as proven in federal court

  37. I’d like to say it shocks me that the league would put its thumb on the scale one way or the other for certain teams/players, but as a Raiders fan it doesn’t surprise me in the least.

  38. Could the NFL be more hypocritical?

    I guess White Collar Crime is OK with the NFL.

    Disgraceful, the double standard.

  39. `Eli worked with team employees to sell NFL merchandise fraudulently and that is not a league issue? This does not reflect well on a league that will be expected to be honest and act with integrity with legalized gambling.

  40. So where is your proof that Eli committed fraud? Where’s your proof Peyton took HGH.

    There was an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence against Brady but you moron Patriot fans still think Brady was framed. Plus Brady didn’t fully cooperate and neither did the Patriots. It’s documented as fact.

    And Elliot didn’t fully cooperate either. Those are the real facts.

  41. The chumps who got”cheated” were not fans, but dealers. They paid $2500 each for the 2 helmets to Steiner Collectibles, the “official” dealer. If you are stupid enough to pay $2500 for a helmet that Eli sweated into the headband, game or not, you are deserving of being ripped off. What do people do with this stuff? Worship it? Sleep with it? If you’ve got $2500 to spend on stuff like this give the money to charity instead. Good grief!

  42. Brady/Patriots and Elliot/Cowboys should be furious with this decision. A player accused of selling fake memorabilia and settled in court isn’t a personal conduct issue?

    The NFL could’ve at least pretended to spend months investigating this first before making this announcement.

  43. The people griping about the personal conduct policy are the same people who never understood the catch rule…

    It’s easy folks, just pay attention…

  44. Fraud is fraud. I can’t say I am surprised at the NFL’s statement. They have LONG given the Giants organization a wide berth on discipline going back to Lawrence Taylor being coked out of his mind. This is also a Manning, so we should not be surprised he gets a pass.

    It sucks if you are a fan of the other 31 franchises who would get reamed for this, but not surprising.

  45. “Perhaps they just want equal application of “justice” across all teams and all players”

    Or they’re just fanboy whiners.

  46. “Josh Brown, the domestic abuser, went unscathed”

    That depends on whether getting run out of the league and never playing another down of football counts as ‘unscathed’.

  47. redlikethepig says:
    May 19, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    “Josh Brown, the domestic abuser, went unscathed”

    That depends on whether getting run out of the league and never playing another down of football counts as ‘unscathed’.

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    Though of course, that happened after years of the team and league looking the other way, then people complained , then they gave the slap on the wrist, then people complained some more, then he finally got dumped.

  48. redlikethepig says:
    “Josh Brown, the domestic abuser, went unscathed”

    That depends on whether getting run out of the league and never playing another down of football counts as ‘unscathed’.
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    Goodell originally gave him a 1 game suspension, which was ridiculous because of the accusations and witnesses. NFL security had to step in at the probowl, so they definitly knew something was going on.

  49. Ridiculous, just ridiculous. Josh Brown gets ONE game suspension for proven domestic abuse. Eli’s getting no punishment for fraud…what’s going on here NFL?

  50. I love people that say they are “done with the NFL” while still posting on a NFL/Pro Football based website.

    See you in September when you will be watching the league you obviously can not get enough of.

  51. Civil fraud is criminal fraud where the victim did not file a criminal complaint. This is not just a “civil matter” like a contract dispute or breach.

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    gauchosporlife says:
    May 19, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    Ridiculous, just ridiculous. Josh Brown gets ONE game suspension for proven domestic abuse. Eli’s getting no punishment for fraud…what’s going on here NFL?
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    I guess you are saying the Giants get some sort of preferential treatment…but it looks like you are comparing them…silly…

    I wish the Mara family took everything they could have years ago….like Jones has tried to do for the last 30 years…

  53. Goodell is a complete joke of a commissioner. Plays favorites and makes knee jerk reactions based on public opinion for everything not involving the Giants/Mara’s or the Mannings, who apparently have total immunity to use PED’s, lie, cheat, defraud and otherwise sully the reputation of “the shield”. Bob Kraft wussed out and Jerry Jones was too late. How long must this mockery continue? If the headline said Brady instead of Manning he would be sitting games, getting fined and losing draft picks for the team. The league office is nothing but another swamp that needs drained…

  54. So kaep makes a political statement and gets black balled completely. Eli “the whitest man ever” manning literally rips off nfl fans and he’s good to go ??? Seriously ?

  55. Of course it’s not. . . Commissioner Roger Godcomplex won’t ever do anything that would harm his precious Giants, Packers or Steelers. Those are the 3 teams that can get away with whatever they want in today’s NFL.

  56. justintuckrule says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:04 am

    The lawsuit was frivolous. Elliott putting hands on women happened. That’s the difference.
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    Thanks for the clarification, Lisa Friel.

  57. freefromwhatyouare says:
    May 19, 2018 at 4:38 pm
    I love people that say they are “done with the NFL” while still posting on a NFL/Pro Football based website.

    See you in September when you will be watching the league you obviously can not get enough of.
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    The ratings kind of tell us a lot of them are serious, hard to argue with the numbers dropping.

  58. Hard to decide what’s more pathetic – this, or loser patriots fans’ need to pretend the team they like and want to pretend they are on being victims instead of pathological cheaters, usually propped up by the refs.

  59. Satanic Hell Creature says:
    May 19, 2018 at 5:18 pm
    Of course it’s not. . . Commissioner Roger Godcomplex won’t ever do anything that would harm his precious Giants, Packers or Steelers. Those are the 3 teams that can get away with whatever they want in today’s NFL.

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    And the jets. Jets had a textbook tampering case with revis.. small fine.

    But the miniature fine makes total sense right after you read godells employment history.

  60. Yet, a guy who may or may not have deflated footballs got suspended

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    Actually, he got suspended because he may or may not have known that somebody else may or may not have deflated footballs

  61. While the Eli’s in the news I want to take this time to sell my last 1000 Eli game worn shirts worn during the upcoming 2018-2019 season. Oops, I’m not supposed to sell these until October/November. Each shirt comes with a letter of authenticity.

  62. 345snarkavenue says:
    May 19, 2018 at 6:50 pm
    Yet, a guy who may or may not have deflated footballs got suspended

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    Actually, he got suspended because he may or may not have known that somebody else may or may not have deflated footballs

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    And, yet, any objective, college educated human knows nothing happened, including a federal judge after brady too the oath.

    Elliott and Brady are clearly innocent, while both Mannings are so clearly guilty.

  63. hawdog says:
    May 19, 2018 at 7:05 pm
    Love it when people like Patrick assume things! Who needs facts when you have RAGE!?

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    The Patriots have been caught cheating repeatedly.

    The refs who work for the crooked owners and are not allowed to be questioned by the media changed the outcomes of the Pit and Jax games.

    When the Pats couldn’t steal the Eagles plays and the refs didn’t rig the game, the Pats lost.

    To a backup.

    Loser pats fans are still pathetically crying about it on here everyday in every post.

    The facts are self evident, there is only one objective reality.

    If those sad people could stop crying and repeating their deluded mantra of victimhood their lives wouldn’t be so rage filled.

    Of course if they had the mental health to realize they’re not on the Pats and played no part in any of the games they “won”*, they wouldn’t be crying.

  64. This is going to get ugly. Somehow the Redskin and Cowboys are going to pay with a reduced salary cap number.

  65. Goodell suspended Terrelle Pryor 5 games because he broke an NCAA rule. Somehow, something a player did in college fell within the NFL’s scope of punishment, but an active player participating in a fraudulent memorabilia scheme does not.

    Plus, how can anyone say Eli cooperated when the NFL never conducted an investigation? There was nothing for him to cooperate or not cooperate with.

  66. Undisclosed monetary settlements from NFL quarterbacks are not frivolous. Goodell has no integrity and owes Brady and Zeke an apology.

  67. Very disappointing action(inaction) by the NFL. Even casual observers can see that Mr Goodell has different rules for different teams/owners/players.

    Zeke Elliott’s suspension was about Jerry, not Zeke.
    If Eli was playing for Dallas, he would have been suspended too.
    It’s not a question of the rules, no matter what they are, just enforce them equally!

    If the league is no longer capable of administering fairly, don’t expect fans to believe the outcomes of games have not been tampered with. I like Eli, but I’m not aware of any undisputed evidence against Zeke that outweighs the evidence against Eli.

  68. Michael says:
    May 19, 2018 at 8:05 pm

    So character and history are not applicable? What world do you people live in?
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    Goodell’s world. Where was that standard with Brady?

  69. Patrick says:
    May 19, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    The Patriots have been caught cheating repeatedly.
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    No, they haven’t. Name one time where they were caught cheating.

  70. So where is your proof that Eli committed fraud? Where’s your proof Peyton took HGH.

    There was an incredible amount of circumstantial evidence against Brady but you moron Patriot fans still think Brady was framed. Plus Brady didn’t fully cooperate and neither did the Patriots. It’s documented as fact.

    And Elliot didn’t fully cooperate either. Those are the real facts.
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    This is legitimately one of the most embarrassing posts I have ever read. Incredible amount of circumstantial evidence? Like what, an out of context text message from May? How about direct evidence like the balls were scientifically deflated due to weather? How about Wells on record stating Brady and the Patriots were very cooperative.

    And Peyton had HGH delivered to his house and never had to answer for it. How’s is that not proof? Like I said, embarrassing to post something like that, but those are the real facts.

  71. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:08 am
    Brady nor the Patriots and Elliot didn’t cooperate with the NFL

    Why, because they were guilty. Peyton cooperated.

    Nothing says cooperation like witness intimidation.

  72. This is why the NFL is a joke sometimes. This absolutely is a personal conduct policy issue.
    The NFL has about three standards it uses when it comes to discipline, none of which use common sense.

  73. I thought the uniforms and equipment belonged to the team. If the team frauded the public, then they Should be held accountable too. Though it is minimum dollars in the big picture, at the very least it is also compensation that should be considered in salary cap. Monetary payoffs clean the grime off a legacy. Manning are hall of gamers on that front.

  74. Rules are for the plebes, not applicable to the chosen. NFL has truly turned into a joke, about as respectable as the WWE.

  75. Eli was just a part of a group of defendants who settled this case, including many more individuals and the entire New York Football Giants organization. I’m sure it made sense for all of these wealthy individuals to just make this hassle go away with a quick payment. Where is the proof that any fraud actually took place?

  76. malleng says:
    May 20, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Eli was just a part of a group of defendants who settled this case, including many more individuals and the entire New York Football Giants organization. I’m sure it made sense for all of these wealthy individuals to just make this hassle go away with a quick payment. Where is the proof that any fraud actually took place?

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    umm, wow.

  77. tylawspick6 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:46 am
    dtm1088 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:34 am
    If they punish Eli, the whistle blowing starts. What Eli did was done by A LOT of players in this league. The NFL is doing everything possible to separate themselves from this situation. Do not want to kill the Golden Goose that is the memorabilia business. You will not hear another word about this.

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    that is exactly what happened. they told him to settle instead of perjure himself in court like goodell has

    i mean, this is why the ratings are tumbling right here

    the fans are treated like fools
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    Goodell never perjured himself in court. He lied through the media aplenty but thats not court. Once he was in court and under oath and asked how much evidence he had that footballs had ever been deflated in the first place (so not even about who did anything but whether there was anthing that had happened at all) he stated honestly that he had zero evidence of that. It cost him the case to tell the truth because that truth exonerated Brady. He had to go file second suit that even if the court had found Bradyinnocent he still had the right to suspend him on nothing more than his say so because the CBA gave him that power. And that too was truthful, it does. And also it says that he is free to look the other way on fraud by Manning and he doesnt even have to say why. So if all this ticks you off dont be mad at Goodell, be mad at the NFLPA for signing off on it.

  78. mmack66 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 11:06 pm
    Patrick says:
    May 19, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    The Patriots have been caught cheating repeatedly.
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    No, they haven’t. Name one time where they were caught cheating.

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    I think you need to say ‘name two times’ to stump people. There has indeed been one time. I understand its debatable and certainly overblown. But it still did happen. But everything other than that one incident is totally fabricated nonsense, they have not been caught cheating because they havent been cheatingnit even a little. But losers hate being seen as losers and if they are incapable at not losing any more they will try to say their opponent cheated rather than just admit they lost.

  79. malleng says:
    May 20, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Eli was just a part of a group of defendants who settled this case, including many more individuals and the entire New York Football Giants organization. I’m sure it made sense for all of these wealthy individuals to just make this hassle go away with a quick payment. Where is the proof that any fraud actually took place?
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    The fact that they settled on the day the trial was supposed to begin is enough proof. Manning’s email was also proof. It was certainly more proof than some out of context text proving that footballs were deflated.

  80. neatpete1 says:
    May 20, 2018 at 12:03 pm
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    Goodell never perjured himself in court. He lied through the media aplenty but thats not court. Once he was in court and under oath and asked how much evidence he had that footballs had ever been deflated in the first place (so not even about who did anything but whether there was anthing that had happened at all) he stated honestly that he had zero evidence of that. It cost him the case to tell the truth because that truth exonerated Brady.
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    You are correct that Goodell never perjured himself in court, but that is because he was never under oath in court with regards to his Deflate-gate lies.

    It was the lawyers for the NFL that stated, in court, that there was no evidence that anyone associated with the Patriots organization had deflated footballs. So, yes, Brady and the Patriots were exonerated by Goodell’s lawyers and mother nature, but Article 46 that gives Goodell the power to arbitrarily suspend and fine players or teams, without cause, ruled the day.

  81. llcamino says:
    May 19, 2018 at 8:44 pm
    This is going to get ugly. Somehow the Redskin and Cowboys are going to pay with a reduced salary cap number.
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    I sure hope so. With all the dead cap already on the Cowboys books, a reduced cap will allow the team to finally pay Dak what he’s worth = nothing!

  82. malleng says:
    May 20, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Eli was just a part of a group of defendants who settled this case, including many more individuals and the entire New York Football Giants organization. I’m sure it made sense for all of these wealthy individuals to just make this hassle go away with a quick payment. Where is the proof that any fraud actually took place?

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    Court documents show, he, of the Manning-face meme sent an email to equipment manager Joe Skiba reading, “2 helmets that can pass as game used. That is it. Eli.”

    Knowing that the thread the above excerpt came from and the other emails about altering jerseys, plus some internal to the team emails that showed the giants were aware and complicit would all be getting introduced as evidence the next morning, they settled.

    It was also kind of a hoot that even the one he gave to Canton has turned out to be a fake.

  83. Kind of amusing that when the Giants are exposed via hard evidence as complicit in a fraud scheme that their QB is carrying out the most common way they try to respond is not to offer any defense but to instead attempt deflection by repeating the unsubstantiated claims against the Patriots. Sort of like they know in their hearts there is no defense and all they can do is to try shouting “squirrel!!”.

  84. fatelvis77 says:
    May 19, 2018 at 2:32 pm
    The chumps who got”cheated” were not fans, but dealers. They paid $2500 each for the 2 helmets to Steiner Collectibles, the “official” dealer. If you are stupid enough to pay $2500 for a helmet that Eli sweated into the headband, game or not, you are deserving of being ripped off. What do people do with this stuff? Worship it? Sleep with it? If you’ve got $2500 to spend on stuff like this give the money to charity instead. Good grief!
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    Sports memorabilia may hold no interest for you and that’s fine. Other people take it seriously, as is their choice. If it was only the memorabilia dealer getting ripped off, we probably wouldn’t have heard about this case. Or if we did, it would have been a “buyer beware” situation.

    The reason why there was lawsuit in this situation was because the memorabilia dealer was indicted on federal charges for memorabilia fraud. All charges were dropped in that case when it came out that the Giants equipment guys had lied to a grand jury about their relationship with the dealer. If Eli and his cronies had just produced what they said they would (authentic, game worn equipment,) then none of this would have happened.

  85. Do NY teams possess the NFL version of ‘Most Favored Nation” status? Absolutely

    Umm……it worked out for the giants this time. Remember when plaxico shot himself in the leg and was suspended plus sentenced to boot? It doesn’t always work for the giants. I’m not even gonna start in on the jets, but let’s say it doesn’t always work out for them.

  86. Sure. Lying isn’t a personal conduct issue at all. LOL

    “Manning was knowingly passing off any old Giants helmets as helmets he actually wore in games.”

    Feel free to collect $200 on the way past jail. Go directly to Park Avenue.

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