Johnny Manziel is no lock to beat out Jeremiah Masoli to start in the CFL

AP

Johnny Manziel signed with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats of the Canadian Football League on Saturday, and while the former Heisman Trophy winner instantly becomes that league’s most famous player, there’s no guarantee he’ll be a starter.

Tiger-Cats coach June Jones said after Manziel signed that Manziel will have to prove himself if he’s going to unseat starter Jeremiah Masoli.

“Let me tell you something right now, he’s got his work ahead of him to beat out Jeremiah,” Jones said of Manziel. “He’s got a lot to catch up on, but he’ll spend the time to get that done. I know he will because he’s already learned that lesson.”

Masoli was a two-year starter at Oregon, but coach Chip Kelly kicked him off the team after he was involved in multiple issues of off-field misconduct. He transferred to Ole Miss and started one year there. He’s been in the CFL since 2012 and threw 15 touchdown passes and five interceptions for the Tiger-Cats last year.

Manziel reportedly makes a salary of $122,000 for the Tiger-Cats, while Masoli reportedly makes $235,000, so the Tiger-Cats have a bigger investment in Masoli. They’re not just going to hand the job to Manziel. He’ll have to earn it.

49 responses to “Johnny Manziel is no lock to beat out Jeremiah Masoli to start in the CFL

  1. $122,000……In Canada, with taxes and deflated dollars, that’s about $30,000 in Cleveland. He should have kept it together.

  2. I follow both the CFL & NFL closely as I love the sport. Does Manziel have the ability to succeed north of the border, sure. But he better take it seriously as the talent level in the CFL is FAR better than many give it credit for. This experiment could really go either way. I’ve seen many QB’s get frustrated by the small differences in the leagues.

  3. How is he going to learn the CFL game and a new offense when he’s never even learned a playbook, not even the painfully dumbed down version his college coaches made for him with only five or six plays?

    He thinks the CFL game and talent level is comparable to his NCAA opponents, and expects to madly scramble around and fling up his jump balls like back in college.

    He will have a lot more time logged gazing foggily up at the Canadian sky — usually through a pile of bodies — than actually studying and learning the game.

  4. Johnny Football should join Kap in the collusion case against the NFL. He has more wins in his last season in the NFL than the entire Browns team had in the 2 years since he was cut by the Browns. He was hounded constantly by the Paparazzi. It was tiresome and some members of the media may be part of the collusion.

  5. Not going to lie, as someone who lives in Toronto, I’m tempted to make the trip down to Hammertown to see Johnny Effing Football play in person. Jeremiah Masoli, not so much.

    Or I could just wait until September when the Ticats are playing the Argos in Toronto, eh?

  6. Masoli won’t put butts in the seats. Manziel will. Who do you think will be starting for Hamilton, if not at the beginning then by the end of the season? (By the way, I can’t stand Manziel. He had an opportunity in the NFL that most males in the U.S. would kill to have, and he squandered it out of pure selfishness and idiocy. I have no respect for him whatsoever. It will, however, be interesting to see how all of this plays out over time.)

  7. Personally I think that is good. While most people focus on his possible addictions, I have always said that his problem more likely stems from deeper emotional issues – like a sense of entitlement. Substance abuse isn’t always addiction. In fact bipolar disorder can be a driver of substance abuse without the abuser actually having an addiction. If he gets all these things under control – including needing to work for a position – it is entirely plausible the rest falls into line.

    Now – I don’t think he has the talent to be an NFL QB. But I sure hope he proves me wrong and the CFL is a fine place to do that.

  8. It would seem that if Manziel can’t beat out Jeremiah Masoli, his chances of returning to the NFL wouldn’t be too good. Guess we’ll see?

  9. He had issues with Chips Ahoy, huh? What a surprise..Johnny Boy always played the fool, he broke all the rules so you would think he was cool..but, he was never really one of the guys, no matter how hard he tried..

  10. I wasn’t a fan of Johnny and how he acted but I’m willing to give anyone a shot at redemption. So I’m rooting that he has his life turned around.

    15 TD’s and 5 INT’s is not a very high water mark for him to beat out. If he can’t beat that, he doesn’t deserve to play in the NFL.

  11. I’ve said for some time, Johnny is a proto-typical CFL quarterback so, if he keeps his nose clean, he can be successful and perhaps find his way back to the NFL.
    Good arm strength, mobile and can extend plays. We’ll see, time will tell.

  12. He really might not beat Masoli out and that’s pathetic.
    Good thing for him is that 2-3 QBs usually play for each CFL team over the course of the season, so he will get his chance.

  13. Johnny will put more asses in the seats and that is what it is about! This is probably the best thing that could happen to both player and team.
    I don’t know why I pull for the long shot, But I would like to see him get it together and play in the NFL again, His playing style WAS exciting but he would be 7 or 8 years out of the Draft, his legs will be fresh but still those of a guy on the wrong side 30. Going to have to rely on his arm and not so much as his feet.

  14. I bet Manziel gets deported back to his home country
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    If they take back Bieber I’d think about it!!!

  15. Not sure why we have so many haters who don’t see the bigger “life” picture here. Johnny was a sad story of an immature kid who gained too much too fast and could not handle it. His bi-polar diagnosis just validates that his addiction issues are real and not some weak state of mind. For all the uneducated folk out there–addiction is a disease and not some simple “choice”.
    We should all be pulling for this guy because you can believe if he succeeds that he’ll pay it forward and help other young men who encounter the same life/career challenges that he did as a 20 year old. It appears to me that he is takes it seriously.

  16. Haters gonna hate. Is anyone ever happy for anyone on here? What has this guy done to any of you, personally? If you don’t like him, if you don’t wanna hear about him, maybe stop reading football news. Otherwise, try and be happy for a person who’s trying to turn their life around.

  17. Americans give Canada a hard time. Canada has been good to us though. Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, Leonard Cohen, Michael J. Fox, James Naismith, Martin Short, Neil Young, Phil Hartman, Seth Rogen, John Candy…the list goes on and on.

    What have we done to return the favor? They got our draft dodgers, the Toronto Raptors, and now Manziel. Apologies and gratitude, Canadians, from your friends to the south.

  18. blackbug99 says:
    May 20, 2018 at 10:58 am
    I bet Manziel gets deported back to his home country
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    If they take back Bieber I’d think about it!!!

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    I’d even throw in William Shatner!
    “Spock…..They’re taking….over.. the ship”!

  19. No doubt about it, Johnny will put bums in the seats!
    Hamilton had a problem with attendance last year so you tell me who starts. (Maybe not game one but very soon thereafter)

  20. According to some people, Johnny Football is the worst quarterback in the history of the Browns franchise, if not the worst quarterback who ever played pro football. LOL. He is so bad that he does not even deserve a tryout with any NFL team. That to me sounds like attempt to cover up the real reason no team will even give him a chance.

  21. Masoli is pretty awful, so beating him out shouldn’t be hard. Then again, Manziel hasn’t done anything to disprove the he’s an awful professional QB either.

  22. Here’s the even bigger picture. The CFL season starts in late June. People will watch to check out Manziel, and realize that they can bet on football in June and July, so they will stay a little bit. I think when Americans start to watch the games to check out Manziel, they are going to like some of the CFL rules, such as video review of pass interference and the motion rules. At some point, maybe not in my lifetime, the NFL is going to have to go to the CFL field size due to the size of the players and other factors. I urge everyone to give the CFL a shot. I’ve been watching for years and love it.

  23. He is really ready to play. I was here in Cleveland when he beat San Fran. It is what it is. I wish him well. Go strong and go proud. I am proud of him. WE SUCKED and nobody wanted to OWN IT. He’s not a bad guy, he was a god guy on a horrible team. No joke !

  24. I give him less than a 25% chance. First off…..he’s gotta actually want to be there, then if he gets to that point, he’s got to actually out play/prepare the other QBs on the roster. Johnny is a dime a dozen talent. He’s gonna come down with some kind of leg injury, pull out of his contract, and be officially over this half hearted comeback.

  25. “Masoli won’t put butts in the seats. Manziel will.”
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    Only if he looks like the guy that played at Texas A&M. Which he almost certainly won’t because 1) A whole lot of negative stuff has happened to him since then and 2) Professional football, even in the CFL, is a far higher quality in both talent and defensive schemes than what he was facing in college.

    Everyone–Manziel included–needs a realistic view of what success will look for him because he’s too small to be a running QB like he was in college–he got hurt in like his second game with Cleveland on a scramble–so he’s going to make it or break it as a typical pocket passer. He’s long past highlight reels and down to needing to stand in the pocket and make accurate throws, just like every other QB.

  26. foodiefoodnerd says:
    May 20, 2018 at 6:48 am
    How is he going to learn the CFL game and a new offense when he’s never even learned a playbook, not even the painfully dumbed down version his college coaches made for him with only five or six plays?

    He thinks the CFL game and talent level is comparable to his NCAA opponents, and expects to madly scramble around and fling up his jump balls like back in college.

    He will have a lot more time logged gazing foggily up at the Canadian sky — usually through a pile of bodies — than actually studying and learning the game.

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    Flutie did well up there, so his style works, if he studies and can stay healthy. Young enough that he can play for 15 years up there like Calvillo.

  27. catquick says:
    May 20, 2018 at 6:18 am

    $122,000……In Canada, with taxes and deflated dollars, that’s about $30,000 in Cleveland. He should have kept it together.

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    Actually his salary is closer to $95,000 USD which is not a bad salary here in Canada.Though you should have checked the other perks of his deal

    Manziel’s CFL contract: $122k base, $10k sign bonus, $18k housing stipend, $10k if active 6 games, $10k for 10 games active. $10k for 14 games active. Another $120k if plays half of snaps. March 1 $75k offseason bonus. 2018 $202k base w/same incentives

    Sounds like he could make closer to $250,000 if he plays like everyone hopes he can play. Also the housing stipend is very nice with the sky high rents in some Canadian citys. The not so good part is having pay taxes both in Canada and also the US if your still a permanent resident there. That is why in the 70s and 80s more than a few American players would stay in Canada and find part time jobs in the off season.Also some back in the day like Ron Lancaster and George Reed would become naturalized Canadian citizens.

  28. At least Johnny Football gets a chance to compete in the CFL. In Cleveland the head coache put him on the bench and refused to give him a chance even though the starters were struggling. Manziel got more wins, with fewer starts, in his last season in Cleveland than any other QB on the roster, and the next head coach came in and cut him loose, and then proceeded to sign RGIII and win only 1 game for the next 2 seasons. Then some people claim that Manziel is a terrible QB and that is why other NFL teams would not give him a phone call. Makes no sense to me.

  29. oneimontis, I’m quite certain that NFL scouts and hiring personnel don’t decide in whom to invest their millions based on random people online claiming someone is a terrible quarterback.

    They actually watch film, and if evaluating character — or lack thereof — they can follow the headlines a player creates off the field with his own behavior, and/or follow the photos and comments the player chooses to post on his social media to represent himself to the world.

  30. beachsidejames says:
    May 20, 2018 at 2:45 pm
    Johnny is not even a lock to show up.

    Well he did show up to practice which is more that can be said for Kaepernick !

  31. Best of luck to the young man. Hope he has learned his lesson and makes the most of this second chance. Hope we get to see him in the NFL down the line. Be blessed young man.

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