President Trump revisits the anthem issue

AP

As NFL owners prepare to launch two days of meetings that could result in changes to the existing anthem policy, the politician who turned embers into a brush fire last September revisited the controversy on Monday.

President Donald Trump made indirect reference to the phenomenon of protests during the anthem as 2017 NASCAR Cup Series champion Martin Truex Jr. visited the White House.

“At every NASCAR race you will see thousands of patriotic Americans, from the grandstands to the pit stalls, proudly waving our flag,” President Trump said, via SportingNews.com. “One thing I know about NASCAR and I will tell you, they do indeed stand for the playing of the national anthem . . . . Somebody said, ‘Maybe you shouldn’t say that. It’s going to be controversial.’ I said, ‘That’s OK. NASCAR isn’t going to mind it at all.'”

While the President stopped short of referencing the NFL expressly, the remarks serve as a reminder that the issue remains on simmer, with the potential of exploding as the 2018 season approaches — especially with the midterm elections only two months later. Thus, as Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports recently explained, some NFL owners will try this week to come up with a solution that ends the protests once and for all.

Any effort to placate President Trump will serve only to bolster the theory that the collusion keeping both Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid unemployed traces not to racism (as some incorrectly characterize the argument) but to a shared concern among those who own the teams that doing business with someone like Kaepernick will invite more criticism from President Trump and, in return, more derision from a base of supporters that will remain loyal to him, no matter what.

The lingering problem for the NFL is that the league gave players the right to protest, confirmed it after Kaepernick was first spotted not standing for the anthem, and reiterated it after President Trump challenged owners to “get that son of a bitch of the field” if/when kneeling happens. It could be too late to unilaterally take that right away.

49 responses to “President Trump revisits the anthem issue

  1. Not at all. The NFL changes position on things all the time AFTER they see fans getting upset and making their voices heard. As in the Ray Rice situation. They changed the penalty. And as far as the protests are concerned they did not make a big deal out of it until the fans INSISTED and revolted, even to the point of burning NFL gear and flying planes with signs about it over stadiums. Whats hard to understand.

  2. I take issue with the premise that a NFL player has the Right to protest while on the Job. CBA or not no other work location would have allowed such action to be taken. Yes, the NFL did not do anything to stop it. I won’t speculate on why they didn’t thou. it is obvious they now regret not doing so.

  3. Attempting to state your collusion theory as fact because you want to pretend it’s true doesn’t make it so, it just discredits and exposes you as invested and not objective.

  4. Can that unbelievably terrible excuse for a so called president manage to shut up for 5 minutes? You’ve done nothing but prove that basically you colluded with enemies to win. The economy set up by a great president before you is the only thing holding you up and you cant shut up? I dont care that you have people that want to delude themselves in to your incessant lying, I cant ask the weak minded all to change. But just shut up for a few minutes so we can rest from your absolute none sense and empire of lies. What an absolute tragedy this guy is on the world political landscape and how sad I feel for his supporters. I really pity them. These aren’t bad people, they are just hurt and angry people who couldn’t handle social change properly and will sadly be so much worse off in the near future because they truly believe in a small time hustler who made them believe that fear is more powerful than understanding. Its just sad.

  5. It is awful to have a public official of any king saying someone shouldn’t protest. There was a time in this country that would have caused the outrage.

  6. jucam1 says:

    Can that unbelievably terrible excuse for a so called president manage to shut up for 5 minutes?
    ============================================

    No. He speaks for the silent majority that the media ignores. And it drives you crazy that you can’t silence him.

  7. @jucam1
    Brilliant.

    And let’s not forget about the sales job about China trade bout to be crawfished.

    #ubeenduped

  8. I long for the day that these people who scoff at the protests actually have something that daily affects them to this degree and watch them want the world to stop to kowtow to their demands.

  9. The protests were quite creative … protest something the NFL has no control over … then blame the NFL for it. If you don’t own your own company, you get fired for bringing your outside interests into the office. I applaud Kaperniek for taking a stand on an issue that desperately needs to be rectified … but not when he is at work. He walked out on San Fran, where he had a job, to pursue an even higher profile as a protester.

    Folks go to games to be entertained. What owner in their right mind would hire someone that will upset their fans … after you’ve paid him millions?

    It’s not collusion, it is common sense. Follow your passion Colin, just not at work.

  10. The confederate flag is much more disrespectful to the National Anthem/ American Flag than kneeling is, and you’ll find plenty of those at a NASCAR event.

  11. oscojoe says:
    May 21, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    I take issue with the premise that a NFL player has the Right to protest while on the Job. CBA or not no other work location would have allowed such action to be taken. Yes, the NFL did not do anything to stop it. I won’t speculate on why they didn’t thou. it is obvious they now regret not doing so.
    ———————————————–

    CBA or not? Well there IS a CBA so you can’t disregard it and the NFL EXPRESSLY said they have the right to protest so it has nothing to do with them failing to stop it.

  12. PFT: The lingering problem for the NFL is that the league gave players the right to protest, confirmed it after Kaepernick was first spotted not standing for the anthem, and reiterated it after President Trump challenged owners to “get that son of a bitch of the field” if/when kneeling happens.
    ______________________________________________________________

    Again, having the right to do it doesn’t mean you should. The NFL doesn’t really need to do anything. This thing is working itself out nicely. The two faces of the protests are no longer are employed. Why? Unless you are a complete simpleton this isn’t tough. I know someone will kneel again this season. It will prompt responses from a number of sources. Will be fun to see where it goes from there.

    I am actually amused by it now. The lines are drawn in the sand. Cross it either way and you know what the response will be.. and you know where the majority of fans are on the topic.

  13. Patrick says:
    May 21, 2018 at 6:32 pm
    Attempting to state your collusion theory as fact because you want to pretend it’s true doesn’t make it so, it just discredits and exposes you as invested and not objective.
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    Bravo! Well said!

  14. Kap got police murdered. Trump speaks for us who are ignored by the MSM. No cult. It shuns me how ignorant some posters are. Collusion with Russia has been discounted by everyone. It’s still used as a club to beat the baby seals(millenials) into obedience. You almost lost your country forever. Trump sacred us from that, by the grace of GOD!

  15. jucam1 says:

    Can that unbelievably terrible excuse for a so called president manage to shut up for 5 minutes?
    ============================================

    Someone needs a safe space

  16. thewanderer says:
    May 21, 2018 at 7:22 pm
    The confederate flag is much more disrespectful to the National Anthem/ American Flag than kneeling is, and you’ll find plenty of those at a NASCAR event.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Waving the Confederate flag at a sporting event as a fan vs. a place where you work is different. It’s your first amendment right to do so if you choose until you walk through the doors of your employment. To be honest I don’t know of any job where you lose the company money they still want to employ you. I guess that’s privilege but you guys only see one side.

  17. Some of us may not agree with the protesters’ methods, but for the leader of the free world to crash down on free speech is a terrible shame…and it goes directly against the constitution that many of his followers hold as the sacred be all end all.

  18. Sounds like the Deferrer in Chief’s bum bum still hurts from the time the NFL owners denied him entry into their exclusive club. I can’t tell if they turned him down because routinely lies about how much he’s worth, he’s previously failed with football/booze/gambling/steaks in America of all places, or if they just don’t like him.

    Regardless, he can lecture us about patriotism after he stops ignoring security briefings, apologizes to all POWs, apologizes for deferrments while simultaneously bragging about how he was such a great athlete, and kisses John McCain’s dirty boots. Until then, stay outta my sports page.

  19. Say what!!?? The NFL is not going to do anything in order to “placate President Trump”. They’re trying to find a way to reach out to the fans who were insulted by the players kneeling during the National Anthem, and, at the same time appease the inflexible NFLPA. That is the conundrum.

  20. cookerduff123 says:
    May 21, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    Some of us may not agree with the protesters’ methods, but for the leader of the free world to crash down on free speech is a terrible shame…and it goes directly against the constitution that many of his followers hold as the sacred be all end all.
    _______________________________________________________

    This isn’t about the constitution. flag or police disrespect or any other manner of excuse or deflection.

    This is about the so called “silent majority” not getting fed. And we see the extremes they will go to….deceiving themselves for backlash sake.

    As if they are built for the hard times.

  21. Go to any game this year. ANY GAME. Go into the corridors and hallways during the anthem. People taking selfies, laughing, buying food and beer. This issue isn’t/wasn’t/and never will be about the anthem.

  22. cynical effort to grab an issue to divide people. if he was really patriotic, he would have subjected himself to the draft like the rest of us did, not having rich daddy’s doctor write him a note for bone spurs…

    bone spur don has no standing to judge other peoples patriotism. period.

  23. His base has a limited attention span and needed something to remind them that they’re the “silent majority.and need to be angry about something.

  24. patriotmaleorgy says:
    May 21, 2018 at 8:26 pm
    thewanderer says:
    May 21, 2018 at 7:22 pm
    The confederate flag is much more disrespectful to the National Anthem/ American Flag than kneeling is, and you’ll find plenty of those at a NASCAR event.
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Waving the Confederate flag at a sporting event as a fan vs. a place where you work is different. It’s your first amendment right to do so if you choose until you walk through the doors of your employment. To be honest I don’t know of any job where you lose the company money they still want to employ you. I guess that’s privilege but you guys only see one side.
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    First Amendment rights are not waived by statute due to passing through the doors of employers. Employees may, however, choose to voluntarily cede those rights.

  25. Well, he is the president of the United States. I would hope he would be pro-America and support our flag and anthem. I know that is a big change from the last guy. What was his accomplishments again?

  26. When will this POTUS ever stick to a script and stop feeding the far right base who thinks he is actually winning. I’ve never seen a POTUS stoke the flames of fear so callously. Exploitation 101

  27. “No. He speaks for the silent majority that the media ignores. And it drives you crazy that you can’t silence him.”

    ====
    Got news for you. You are not the majority and you are certainly not silent. Nothing but right-wing blowhards on Fox “News” (State Run TV) and conservative radio.

  28. footballpat says:
    May 21, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    oscojoe says:
    May 21, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    I take issue with the premise that a NFL player has the Right to protest while on the Job. CBA or not no other work location would have allowed such action to be taken. Yes, the NFL did not do anything to stop it. I won’t speculate on why they didn’t thou. it is obvious they now regret not doing so.
    ———————————————–
    CBA or not? Well there IS a CBA so you can’t disregard it and the NFL EXPRESSLY said they have the right to protest so it has nothing to do with them failing to stop it.
    ——————————————————————————–
    Any protest at work that is considered offensive and creates a uncomfortable work environment supersedes any CBA. You only need to use basic knowledge to understand this not your left ideology.

  29. When Florio says,
    ” … but to a shared concern among those who own the teams that doing business with someone like Kaepernick will invite more criticism from President Trump and, in return, more derision from a base of supporters that will remain loyal to him, no matter what”

    he is sneakingly putting forth (“no matter what”) left-wing propaganda that those of who often agree with President Trump have mindless loyalty.

    Any honest analysis of how frequently Trump supporters publicly disagree with something within all that he says as compared to how frequently Obama supporters publicly disagree with something — anything — he has said or did … provides overwhelming evidence that Trump supporters think and speak independently and that those on the left are the ones who behave like mindless sheep.

    Florio simply doesn’t accept or understand that most Americans actually agree with Trump’s statements re: Kaepernick and protesting during the national anthem.

  30. The people have spoken. It’s up to the NFL to do the right thing, and nip it in the bud.

  31. catquick says:
    May 21, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    Kap got police murdered. Trump speaks for us who are ignored by the MSM. No cult. It shuns me how ignorant some posters are. Collusion with Russia has been discounted by everyone. It’s still used as a club to beat the baby seals(millenials) into obedience. You almost lost your country forever. Trump sacred us from that, by the grace of GOD!
    ———-

    Imagine believing this.

  32. theboysvlog says:
    May 21, 2018 at 9:07 pm
    Go to any game this year. ANY GAME. Go into the corridors and hallways during the anthem. People taking selfies, laughing, buying food and beer. This issue isn’t/wasn’t/and never will be about the anthem.
    ———

    This was known from the beginning.

    And that’s how insidious and deep-seeded the bigotry, racism and deranged mania runs with those who are afflicted by it. Their visceral response to ANY discussions centered around racial discrimination, brutality and oppression by those who have the means to oppress others perpetrated against others (i.e. corrupt cops against Black people) is to immediately go into cognitive dissonance mode, and seek to deflect anything factual like a shield, and subsequently attempt to change the subject into something else in order to distract from the main points.

    You’ve heard everything from tic-like responses of “Chicago!” and “Black on Black crime” (when every ethnic groups commits crime against one another disproportionately more than against others, as basic proximity would suggest) to police brutality, to immediately moving the goalposts about the protests from the aforementioned subject of police brutality to something way out of left field.

    Worse yet, these draft dodgers and their offspring who would have done the same if the draft were still in effect, are always the ones screaming patriotism and thinking they speak for military personnel… even AFTER said personnel almost to a man and woman have stated that they either flat out agree with the protesters, or at worst, don’t have a problem with them, and these miscreants STILL shout from the rooftops that the protesters are “disrespecting the military.”

    If you feel so disrespected, go join the army or marines and get on the front lines in Syria or be the first on the line in North Korea or Russia, should it come to that.

    Otherwise, all that mouth breathing is nothing but hot air.

  33. The NFL can stop this nonsense in its tracks. They can keep the teams in the locker rooms until after the anthem is played. Like they did years ago..
    So the issue is completely in the NFL’s lap to solve with a simple mandate

  34. Liberalsruineverything says:
    May 22, 2018 at 12:09 pm
    Hey @Mr. Wight I think you broke your Thesaurus. Way to keep it pithy snowflake.
    ———–

    No liberal here.

    Direct that nonsense elsewhere, coward.

  35. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    May 22, 2018 at 12:55 pm
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    May 22, 2018 at 12:09 pm
    Hey @Mr. Wight I think you broke your Thesaurus. Way to keep it pithy snowflake.
    ———–

    No liberal here.

    Direct that nonsense elsewhere, coward.
    —————————

    That’s more like it. Good job snowflake.

  36. Mr. Wright 212 says:
    May 22, 2018 at 8:59 am
    catquick says:
    May 21, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    Kap got police murdered. Trump speaks for us who are ignored by the MSM. No cult. It shuns me how ignorant some posters are. Collusion with Russia has been discounted by everyone. It’s still used as a club to beat the baby seals(millenials) into obedience. You almost lost your country forever. Trump saved us from that, by the grace of GOD!
    ———-

    Imagine believing this.
    _____

    Yes, I can imagine that.

    What I have trouble imagining is someone living in such a closed bubble that he doesn’t understand or believe what those of us with real knowledge of both history and current events know to be true.

  37. rcali says:
    May 21, 2018 at 10:07 pm
    Well, he is the president of the United States. I would hope he would be pro-America and support our flag and anthem. I know that is a big change from the last guy. What was his accomplishments again?
    —–
    Killed Osama, brought the country back from Bush’s devastating recession, kept inflation and interest rates low, and kept us out of unnecessary wars.

    Meanwhile, Trump has killed soldiers in Niger, leaked intelligence to the Russians, increased inflation, increased the cost of basic goods via his losing trade war, and increased deficit spending by a trillion. So there’s that.

  38. TheDotardinChief says:
    May 22, 2018 at 5:24 pm
    rcali says:
    May 21, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    Killed Osama, brought the country back from Bush’s devastating recession, kept inflation and interest rates low, and kept us out of unnecessary wars.

    Meanwhile, Trump has killed soldiers in Niger, leaked intelligence to the Russians, increased inflation, increased the cost of basic goods via his losing trade war, and increased deficit spending by a trillion. So there’s that.
    ———————————————

    The task force that found Bin Laden was put together by the Bush administration and had been hunting him for years. All Barry did was pull the trigger. So there’s that.

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