Bill Belichick has running back Sony Michel wearing No. 51 in practice

AP

Bill Belichick doesn’t like the NFL telling him what to do, right down to the jerseys his players wear in practice.

Two years ago, the NFL ordered Belichick to stop having players practice in numberless jerseys, as he had been doing in Organized Team Activities. So now Belichick has players wearing numbers in OTAs. But many Patriots are wearing numbers that they won’t wear when the season starts.

That’s why running back Sony Michel is wearing No. 51 at OTAs, even though when the season starts he has to wear a running back number, which in the NFL means numbers between 20 and 49.

Belichick scoffed about the significance of giving rookies their numbers at this point in the offseason.

Really not too worried about all the important stuff like that — numbers and what color gloves you wear and all of that,” Belichick said, via ESPN. “That’s not really at the top of the list right now. Trying to learn football, trying to become a team, trying to get better each day — that’s really where our focus is.”

All of the Patriots’ draft picks are currently practicing with numbers in the 50s, even players like Michel and rookie quarterback Danny Etling, who obviously won’t be wearing 50s numbers when the season starts. Undrafted rookies are wearing numbers in the 60s and 70s.

Belichick liked practicing without numbers because he felt it forced players to communicate better and not rely on jersey numbers to identify each other. It’s a tactic Belichick learned from studying Hall of Fame Steelers coach Chuck Noll, who often had his players wear jerseys without numbers in practice. Now that the NFL has prevented the Patriots from going numberless, Belichick has found the next-best thing.

102 responses to “Bill Belichick has running back Sony Michel wearing No. 51 in practice

  1. “all the important stuff like that — numbers and what color gloves you wear and all of that,”
    Personally, I love his pressers. Especially when a reporter asks a stupid question, or one that he has already addressed.

  2. If the NFL is going to tell him what to do, I would hope they would be more constructive like, make sure Malcolm Butler plays more in the Super Bowl.

  3. He’s the best, hilarious. Only thing better would be to have them wearing three digit numbers!!!!!

  4. Michel was a weird pick for NE. An older RB (already 23) with a huge medical red flag who had almost as many fumbles as receptions last year going to a pass heavy team where fumbling is a mortal sin and RBs are interchangeable?

    With their first round pick??

    Really curious to see how BB uses him.

  5. catquick says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:34 am

    He’s paranoid as to other teams taping him, as he knows all too well he does it often.
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    Looks to everyone here that you’re the guy that is paranoid.

  6. catquick says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:34 am
    He’s paranoid as to other teams taping him, as he knows all too well he does it often.

    Every team tapes every team. It’s not illegal or a secret. Anyone who actually understands anything about football knows this.

  7. BB is a guy you can hate & like at the same time. He should have everybody wear the same number.

  8. “Really not too worried about all the important stuff like that — numbers and what color gloves you wear and all of that,” Belichick

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    Obviously does worry about stuff like that or his players would be wearing correct numbers geez…. what a genius.

  9. So Bill Belichick going against the system and defying the rules. Where is Bob McNair to tell him that we can’t have the inmates running the asylum?

  10. They should all wear the same number. Or maybe fractions. Or put one number on the front and a different on the back. That’s a big F to the league but it would be funny and practical at the same time.

  11. catquick says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:34 am
    He’s paranoid as to other teams taping him, as he knows all too well he does it often.

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    Wow…..sounds like you really wish he coached your favorite team

  12. stipez says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:39 am
    Why do they have to wear numbers?

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    Because it was an opportunity for the league to contradict what Belichick was doing. Cant pass those up ya know?

  13. Hoyer said in practice he saw a wide receiver lined up against someone with a number in the 50s, he thought he had a mismatch (linebacker) and threw it over there, it was intercepted and he soon discovered the guy was a cornerback wearing a number in the 50s.

  14. the arrogance of Billy B cost the Patsies the Super Bowl last year not playing Butler, people should not be surprised that he does dumb things every once in a while, he is human too.

  15. You know why his cheating ass does this he is afraid some one will tape his practices like he did.

  16. Mark Perez says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:00 am
    You know why his cheating ass does this he is afraid some one will tape his practices like he did
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    No that would be the Denver Broncos, the only team in NFL history to be fined for taping another team’s practices.

    🙂

  17. Honestly my fellow Pats fans- it’s time to let go of the Butler thing. I will always love the guy for what he did at the end of XXXIX and ruining Patriot Hater’s Super Bowl Sunday at the same time.

    But let’s be real- that was 3 years ago. He had a poor season and therefore didn’t really earn the benefit of the doubt that he would have made a difference in the outcome of LII.

    Onward. I can’t wait to see what the reigning back to back AFC Champion and soon to be 6 time World Champions have for us this season.

    🙂

  18. donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:53 am
    This explains why people see him as a cheater. He learned form Knoll.
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    Knoll? 🤔

  19. Sure things:
    1. The sun rises every morning.
    2. Death
    3. Taxes
    4. The word ‘cheat’ is used by the haters.

    BB should use Roman numerals or put numbers In such tiny font size that you need a magnifying glass to resolve them. Unless there’s a rule specificity against it – but I doubt it.

  20. Sony M…… I LOVE the pick….. in the Pats line up, him along with Burkhead, White & Devlin in the backfield along with whomever else they decide to keep makes for one DYNAMIC & EXPLOSIVE group…..best way to protect Brady is to have a BACKFIELD that allows him to be as unpredictable as possible….. FEAR & RESPECT all options or get BURNED!!!
    Go Pats!!!!

  21. lgw91s says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:15 am
    “all the important stuff like that — numbers and what color gloves you wear and all of that,”
    Personally, I love his pressers. Especially when a reporter asks a stupid question, or one that he has already addressed.

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    Absolutely. They ask dumb questions or questions we already know the answer to, and he buries them.

    The wealsy Boston media is the worst and it simply isn’t close.

  22. kissbillsrings says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:31 am
    Sony M…… I LOVE the pick….. in the Pats line up, him along with Burkhead, White & Devlin in the backfield along with whomever else they decide to keep makes for one DYNAMIC & EXPLOSIVE group…..best way to protect Brady is to have a BACKFIELD that allows him to be as unpredictable as possible….. FEAR & RESPECT all options or get BURNED!!!
    Go Pats!!!!

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    Well, yeah. I said the same thing last year and then wondered why Burkhead was not more of the gameplan in the Super Bowl. He was shredding Philly’s overrated D at one point and then pulled off.

    It’s McDaniels who is wildly overrated who does too much RB manipilation. Just go 2 back set all the way down the field.

    He subs the skill set on and off too much. Been a flaw of his years and years.

    But, yeah, Michel, assuming he’s a hardworker, smart and wants to block, can be used skill set wise, similarly to Burkhead.

    White is the scatback, but they need another scatback for White to groom, with Lewis gone.

  23. Change the numbers every practice … really mess with the NFL and dumb rules. Mandated numbers for practice!!! Spare me … We’re talkin’ about practice!

  24. GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:28 am
    Honestly my fellow Pats fans- it’s time to let go of the Butler thing. I will always love the guy for what he did at the end of XXXIX and ruining Patriot Hater’s Super Bowl Sunday at the same time.

    But let’s be real- that was 3 years ago. He had a poor season and therefore didn’t really earn the benefit of the doubt that he would have made a difference in the outcome of LII.

    Onward. I can’t wait to see what the reigning back to back AFC Champion and soon to be 6 time World Champions have for us this season.

    🙂

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    I am convinced only Millennials care about Butler being a jerk all year and letting his teammates down, magically blaming BB for a 28 year old adult’s actions.

    Funny how no one in the media really asked Butler if any of the reports by Mike Giardi, are in fact, true.

    I believe them to be. Shame on Malcom Butler. Shame on his ego and selfishness.

    Tenn is about to get a real big taste of an overpaid player who will get exposed for the money he’s been paid.

  25. nhpats says:
    May 24, 2018 at 7:48 am
    catquick says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:34 am
    He’s paranoid as to other teams taping him, as he knows all too well he does it often.

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    Wow…..sounds like you really wish he coached your favorite team

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    No thanks, BTW how is that Richie Incognito “will be a pat by the end of the week” thing going?

    Richie Incognito

  26. .
    @Brandon

    “Michel was a weird pick for NE. An older RB (already 23) with a huge medical red flag who had almost as many fumbles as receptions last year going to a pass heavy team where fumbling is a mortal sin and RBs are interchangeable?”
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    I, too, was stunned that the Patriots took a first round RB. However, I find it comforting that he comes from the SEC and arrives with Nick Saban’s stamp of approval.
    .

  27. pastabelly says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:29 am
    If the NFL is going to tell him what to do, I would hope they would be more constructive like, make sure Malcolm Butler plays more in the Super Bowl.

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    Yes, a guy who cleaned out his locker, had a 103 passer rating against for the year and had a nervous breakdown on the sideline during the anthem is really a guy I want playing.

    lmao

    Why do dopey fans think Butler was the second coming of Mike Haynes? I don’t get it. He’s a good STAR CB who plays the best in zone. That’s it.

    Once his ego exploded last year, he became a pretty mediocre player. Get over it. You should be angry at Butler, not Belichick.

  28. Speaking of taping practices – remember the NY Times article that someone from high up in the stadiu, with a telescope was caught spying on the PATRIOTS walkthrough before Super Bowl? Nobody really said much about it since. Would be interesting to know who it was and how close they were associated with the Rams.

    Another interesting tidbit from the article is that NFL officials saw it too. And they decided to…do nothing. Huh. Go figure eh? 🙂

  29. “Honestly my fellow Pats fans- it’s time to let go of the Butler thing. I will always love the guy for what he did at the end of XXXIX and ruining Patriot Hater’s Super Bowl Sunday at the same time.

    But let’s be real- that was 3 years ago. He had a poor season and therefore didn’t really earn the benefit of the doubt that he would have made a difference in the outcome of LII.”

    He was good enough to influence 16 regular season games and 2 playoff games last year, but not the Super Bowl? Listenclosely to what you just said. Sadly this one will never go away. True or not, this will go down in history as the Super Bowl where a coach let his own ego cost his team the game. However he will be partially vindicated if Butler plays terrible for his new team next year. As for the numbers, he confuses his players as much as he does anyone taping it, so let them wear whatever he wants them to.

  30. ragnarthegreat says:
    May 24, 2018 at 9:33 am

    “Honestly my fellow Pats fans- it’s time to let go of the Butler thing. I will always love the guy for what he did at the end of XXXIX and ruining Patriot Hater’s Super Bowl Sunday at the same time.

    But let’s be real- that was 3 years ago. He had a poor season and therefore didn’t really earn the benefit of the doubt that he would have made a difference in the outcome of LII.”

    He was good enough to influence 16 regular season games and 2 playoff games last year, but not the Super Bowl? Listenclosely to what you just said. Sadly this one will never go away. True or not, this will go down in history as the Super Bowl where a coach let his own ego cost his team the game. However he will be partially vindicated if Butler plays terrible for his new team next year. As for the numbers, he confuses his players as much as he does anyone taping it, so let them wear whatever he wants them to.

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    Well I read somewhere that he allowed over a 100 Passer rating when targeted. That wasn’t one bad game, that was over a whole season. If Butler did have any influence it wasn’t in a good way.

    If Butler was better than this, I have no doubt whatsoever he would have played. Too many of us talk like this was like Belichick benching Tom Brady out of spite. Not so. It was not as egregious a decision as it’s being made out to be. Unfortunately Butler wasn’t very good this year and that’s reason enough to doubt his presence would have reversed the outcome of this game.

    Honestly I could care less how he does from now on as he is no longer with this team. I will always be grateful for XXXIX for sure but it’s time to move on. IMO. 🙂

  31. tylawspick6 says:
    May 24, 2018 at 9:31 am

    pastabelly says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:29 am
    If the NFL is going to tell him what to do, I would hope they would be more constructive like, make sure Malcolm Butler plays more in the Super Bowl.

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    Yes, a guy who cleaned out his locker, had a 103 passer rating against for the year and had a nervous breakdown on the sideline during the anthem is really a guy I want playing.

    lmao

    Why do dopey fans think Butler was the second coming of Mike Haynes? I don’t get it. He’s a good STAR CB who plays the best in zone. That’s it.

    Once his ego exploded last year, he became a pretty mediocre player. Get over it. You should be angry at Butler, not Belichick.

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    Sadly, I have to agree with a lot of this. The Butler from 2015 (who would have no doubt played) wasn’t walking through that door for this game. The 2017 Butler would have been taken to school just like Rowe and the rest of them did.

  32. ragnarthegreat says:
    May 24, 2018 at 9:33 am
    “Honestly my fellow Pats fans- it’s time to let go of the Butler thing. I will always love the guy for what he did at the end of XXXIX and ruining Patriot Hater’s Super Bowl Sunday at the same time.

    But let’s be real- that was 3 years ago. He had a poor season and therefore didn’t really earn the benefit of the doubt that he would have made a difference in the outcome of LII.”

    He was good enough to influence 16 regular season games and 2 playoff games last year, but not the Super Bowl? Listenclosely to what you just said. Sadly this one will never go away. True or not, this will go down in history as the Super Bowl where a coach let his own ego cost his team the game. However he will be partially vindicated if Butler plays terrible for his new team next year. As for the numbers, he confuses his players as much as he does anyone taping it, so let them wear whatever he wants them to.

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    Umm, no, Jon Jones got hurt late in the year, so we’ll never know if BB was going to bench Butler or not.

    IMO, if Jon Jones was available, Butler may have been Inactive altogether.

    He had a terrible AFC title game, was probably jealous the attention Gilmore was getting, cleaned out his locker, faked the flu, blew up at coache, lost trust from BB/Patriicia and his teammates in the secondary.

    This ALL happened LEADING UP TO THE SUPER BOWL.

    BB probably thought the guy could finally snap out of it, but it all culminated at the end.

    Why is this so hard to understand? It all stems from Butler himself. BB did nothing wrong.

    It’s amazing watching adult humans be so easily brainwashed by the media.

  33. stipez says: “Why do they have to wear numbers?”
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    Medical compliance. A lot of teams had injured players still participating in workouts and practices. Can’t do that under the CBA. Jersey numbering allows them to monitor players.

    Also allows medical spotters to identify player for concussion protocol during practices. They can call down and have a player pulled aside – imaging trying that with 90 camp guys with no jersey numbering…

  34. WHAT in the world is the difference if a player wears a number or not during pre-preseason practice???

    Once again the Comish is focused on nonsense.

  35. tylawspick6 says:

    May 24, 2018 at 9:31 am

    pastabelly says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:29 am
    If the NFL is going to tell him what to do, I would hope they would be more constructive like, make sure Malcolm Butler plays more in the Super Bowl.

    ———————-

    Yes, a guy who cleaned out his locker, had a 103 passer rating against for the year and had a nervous breakdown on the sideline during the anthem is really a guy I want playing.

    lmao

    Why do dopey fans think Butler was the second coming of Mike Haynes? I don’t get it. He’s a good STAR CB who plays the best in zone. That’s it.

    Once his ego exploded last year, he became a pretty mediocre player. Get over it. You should be angry at Butler, not Belichick.
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    He was the second best cover guy on the team and probably their best tackler in the secondary which would have helped. I’m all for sending a message to a guy not performing well in practice or snubbing team rules, whatever the real reason was. But when Nick Foles is looking like Drew Brees in the Super Bowl, you should eventually get the guys who are getting burned off the field and put in your more talented and experienced player.

  36. I’m a Pats fan, but give it a rest already with the Belichick/Butler SB issue. The entitlement of some of you Pats fans is unbelievable – do you really think that if Butler played they would have won? Talk about revisionist history – Butler was no Deion Sanders, so stop with the notion that he was a shut down corner. He played like crap all year and the Pats made a decision to bench him in the SB – move on.

    They were outplayed by the Eagles and lost, it happens. There still no other coach/GM I’d rather have than BB. Just because BB hasn’t given a reason that YOU think is acceptable doesn’t mean he didn’t have one and I’ll trust his decisions over an arm chair QB any day when it comes to football decisions.

  37. A genius!!!! No one can outsmart him!!!!

    Oh, ok, except Tom Coughlin twice and Doug Pederson and Nick Foles once.

    And since a running back is wearing number 51, I predict more wins for NE!

  38. GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:30 am
    donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:53 am
    This explains why people see him as a cheater. He learned form Knoll.
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    Knoll?

    Yes, Knoll. Did you read the article?

  39. r/maliciouscompliance

    It’s the same reason he dresses like a hobo on the sidelines. The NFL requires him to wear league licensed gear on the sideline… So he does, with the sleeves cut off.

  40. I believe that the non called illegal formation on which Foles caught that pass for a TD & The in game rule change that allowed 2 non TD’s to count had WAY MORE to do with the Pats loss than not Playing Butler…. afterall, what could having him in there have done to change those bogus calls???!!!
    Thoughts??!!….. rational ones please!!

  41. daddeeo says: “WHAT in the world is the difference if a player wears a number or not during pre-preseason practice??? Once again the Comish is focused on nonsense.”
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    Maybe you should take off those Goodell-hating blinders… The most logical explanation for having jersey numbers during practices is so that the MEDICAL CREW can monitor and identify players quickly for concussion protocol and CBA injury rules compliance.

  42. They should make jerseys with the numbers just a shade different from the shirt color so it will be real hard to discern. That would comply with the rule but players really couldn’t play based on jersey numbers unless they had eyes like a hawk.

  43. jimjets says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:07 am
    A genius!!!! No one can outsmart him!!!! Oh, ok, except Tom Coughlin twice and Doug Pederson and Nick Foles once.
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    Oh look a salty Jets fan reminiscing about a Super Bowl… Anyway, but for a blindly thrown helmet catch in one SB and in the other a bobbled non-TD and an illegal formation on the Philly Special TD against the most banged up team in the league is the difference between those teams beating the Pats. But we’re talking about just 3 of the Pats 4 SB’s in the past decade alone – when was the Jets’ last one?

  44. donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:13 am

    GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:30 am
    donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:53 am
    This explains why people see him as a cheater. He learned form Knoll.
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    Knoll?

    Yes, Knoll. Did you read the article?

    =======================
    Yes I did. It was a knice article. Still knot sure who Knoll is and it sounds like you do knot know who Knoll is either. Obviously you do knot know what you are talking about.

    🙂

  45. schmokes says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:21 am
    What number is Tom Terrific wearing at the OTA’s this year?…..oh yeah…….
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    Lol….should I be panicking???
    He could skip the ENTIRE off season BOTH MANDATORY & OPTIONAL and #12 would STILL OWN the league….
    So the point you were trying to make is??

  46. akira554 says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:20 am

    daddeeo says: “WHAT in the world is the difference if a player wears a number or not during pre-preseason practice??? Once again the Comish is focused on nonsense.”
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    Maybe you should take off those Goodell-hating blinders…

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    Nah. I’ll keep mine on. 🙂

  47. grumpysal says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:03 am
    I’m a Pats fan, but give it a rest already with the Belichick/Butler SB issue. The entitlement of some of you Pats fans is unbelievable..
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    I half agree with you – the other half would say the haters seem to harp on more about the Butler issue than Pats fans do, as haters like to point to it and say BB is not a genius and that it’s somehow proof the Pats are imploding. Frankly, the bobbled TD and the illegal formation on the Philly Special TD made a bigger difference… But anyway you can’t win them all, and not every coaching decision works out all the time. And because the Pats got to the SB, the biggest overlooked point is that the Pats were last season’s most banged up team, right from before week 1. Philly like to talk up Foles as a “backup” but he’s been a starter in most of the games of his career (39 of 49) and they were missing a couple of big names whereas half the Pats’ big names were IR. That BB & TB12 still got them to the SB was a miracle.

  48. Chill_Donahue says:
    May 24, 2018 at 9:57 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    May 24, 2018 at 9:31 am

    pastabelly says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:29 am
    If the NFL is going to tell him what to do, I would hope they would be more constructive like, make sure Malcolm Butler plays more in the Super Bowl.

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    Yes, a guy who cleaned out his locker, had a 103 passer rating against for the year and had a nervous breakdown on the sideline during the anthem is really a guy I want playing.

    lmao

    Why do dopey fans think Butler was the second coming of Mike Haynes? I don’t get it. He’s a good STAR CB who plays the best in zone. That’s it.

    Once his ego exploded last year, he became a pretty mediocre player. Get over it. You should be angry at Butler, not Belichick.
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    He was the second best cover guy on the team and probably their best tackler in the secondary which would have helped. I’m all for sending a message to a guy not performing well in practice or snubbing team rules, whatever the real reason was. But when Nick Foles is looking like Drew Brees in the Super Bowl, you should eventually get the guys who are getting burned off the field and put in your more talented and experienced player.

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    Well, normally, I would agree, but obviously a series of events CHANGED THAT on top of his up and down and erratic play in 2018.

    I knew with my own eyes he was inconsistnet, but I did not know his passer rating against was 103. That’s a poor number. So, it almost comes off like he was freelancing for stats like INTs and forced fumbles, but not playing within the scheme. All that fingerpointing and body language in Sept all makes sense now.

    Butlert is a 28 year old adult who was working at Popeyes 5 years ago, went undrafted and had his career blossom due to his hard work, but also the opportunity BB gave him and by BB/Patricia coaching that kid up.

    Essentially, he owes almost all of his situation to BB.

    It’s ridiculous for people to blame BB for an adult human going off the rails with an exploding ego.

    As Patricia or one of the defenseive coaches said: “It was a challenge getting him ready all year”.

    What that means is, they were spending a lot of time managing his EGO due to his greed and delusionas of him thinking he’s a number 1 CB based on which coach he plays for and what team he is on.

    If BB and Adams did not coach him up prior to SB 49, his successful play never would have occurred.

    Get it?

    I think his physical effort was there, sure. But, his mental commmittment was clearly not.

    The fact the media keeps pumping this story and some dopey Pats Millennials are still whining about it, is pathetic. Go ask Butler if any of these stories are true. I believe they are and it is VERY disappointing he did this, staining his legacy in Boston. It’s sad to see players be overwhelemed by ego and greed.

    Almost every single Pats player that did that, ones that got dealt or walked from, regretted it later and admitted fault.

    Maybe someday Butler will come clean and admit it as well.

  49. kissbillsrings says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:19 am
    I believe that the non called illegal formation on which Foles caught that pass for a TD & The in game rule change that allowed 2 non TD’s to count had WAY MORE to do with the Pats loss than not Playing Butler…. afterall, what could having him in there have done to change those bogus calls???!!!
    Thoughts??!!….. rational ones please!!

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    Absolutely. That’s the comical part of the fraud media. That’s a bigger story that should be pushed, not a selfish player not playing.

    What team is screwed in a SB or playoff games like that Pats are? They’ve been getting screwed for years, it’s just that 9/10, they overcome it during the game, so everyone forgets about it or doesn’t care.

    Look at the AFC Title game alone….Lewis does not fumble, still has possession fo the ball trapped to his leg, hits the ground, and then the ball comes out which is clearly not a fumble. They get the call wrong, lie to the NFL customer that Lewis fumbled, and then everyone is brainwashed into thinking Jax got robbed of a TD on the run back. I mean, I am just speechless at how far the haters are willing to want to see our team cheated.

    I always asked how Goodell was going to do it, and he did it. Didn’t he? He literally told the ref crew to help Philly in any way possible without it being obvious.

    What a beautifully timed defensive play with textbook coverage, without interfering by Marquis Flowers on Clement, forcing Clement to change arms to try to secure the ball for final possession, too.

    No one can name other teams who have witnessed rule changes in real time during a game to cheat their team.

    There’s a reason for that. And, there’s a BIG reason why ratings continue to drop, too.

  50. Conspiracy theorists wrong again. It’s used as a team building exercise. Players have to get to know other players by faces and names. A player and Mike Reiss talked/wrote about it a couple days ago. That was the reason for the jerseys with no numbers also.

  51. The numbers are there to prevent cheating … so it’s no wonder the Pats oppose it.

  52. So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? Just wow. This guy was garbage at LSU, if Belichick and McDaniels can turn him into at least a viable NFL backup it will be a miracle.

  53. .
    if he wants them to learn each others names why doesnt he just make the numbers too small to see so they cant be refereed to by their number.
    Or put multiple numbers, or different number front and back.
    fight a dumb system with a dumb response

  54. patriots123456 says:
    May 24, 2018 at 7:59 am
    Hoyer said in practice he saw a wide receiver lined up against someone with a number in the 50s, he thought he had a mismatch (linebacker) and threw it over there, it was intercepted and he soon discovered the guy was a cornerback wearing a number in the 50s.
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    Thats good though. Better Hoyer get those lessons in practice than in a game.

  55. Brandon in Northwest Suburbia says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:09 am
    Michel was a weird pick for NE. An older RB (already 23) with a huge medical red flag who had almost as many fumbles as receptions last year going to a pass heavy team where fumbling is a mortal sin and RBs are interchangeable?

    With their first round pick??

    Really curious to see how BB uses him.
    …………………………………..
    Maybe converting him to a linebacker?

  56. I am not sure where everyone gets their stats. Pro football focus rated Butler’s passer rating against a 79.2 for the season. Stephen Gilmore in the Super Bowl was 87.6 and Eric rowe was 82.4. Again no stats are from pro football focus, I’m sure you can find other numbers other places but this is the site that most people quote. And this rating system these numbers are all fairly close, but percentage points mean a lot.

  57. GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:28 am
    donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:13 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:30 am
    donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:53 am
    This explains why people see him as a cheater. He learned form Knoll.
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    Knoll?

    Yes, Knoll. Did you read the article?
    =======================
    Yes I did. It was a knice article. Still knot sure who Knoll is and it sounds like you do knot know who Knoll is either. Obviously you do knot know what you are talking about.
    __________________________________________________________________________________

    Maybe he’s confused with the Grassy Knoll?!!
    And I believe his name is spelled Noll.

  58. donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 10:13 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:30 am
    donth8mecauseimwhite says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:53 am
    This explains why people see him as a cheater. He learned form Knoll.
    ———-
    Knoll?

    Yes, Knoll. Did you read the article?

    —————-
    The article refers to Chuck not Grassy.

  59. stipez says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:39 am

    Why do they have to wear numbers?

    _____________________________

    It’s so the sports reporters who are authorized to observe practice can tell who they’re looking at for photographs and seek out the specific players about whom they want to write their articles.

  60. “So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? Just wow. This guy was garbage at LSU, if Belichick and McDaniels can turn him into at least a viable NFL backup it will be a miracle.”

    So after literally thousands of posts stating its the Pats system and any QB, even a high school QB would be successful in it you now admit you were just trolling and don’t believe that at all. Its clear in fact that secretly you believe Brady is great and will be hard to replace.

  61. ragnarthegreat says:
    May 24, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    I am not sure where everyone gets their stats. Pro football focus rated Butler’s passer rating against a 79.2 for the season. Stephen Gilmore in the Super Bowl was 87.6 and Eric rowe was 82.4. Again no stats are from pro football focus, I’m sure you can find other numbers other places but this is the site that most people quote. And this rating system these numbers are all fairly close, but percentage points mean a lot.

    ———————
    Not in the stats was that Butler was just coming off a bad case of the flu that week. In practice it was reported he was struggling and not at full strength. (Pats haters were having a good time pointing it out too) I have seen people suggest that Butler at 75-80% was still worth trying over what they had out there but thats not really so. A guy at only 75-80%strength is not going to be able to keep up with the Eagles receivers (who are quite good) they would have been actually pulling away from him heading down the field. The CBs Belichick needed to put in that game were unfortunately on IR by that point and after Gilmore he had no one left that could do the job. The guys he had in there could at least match speed for the receiver so as badly as they were doing to understand the routes they were still the best hope.

  62. @tylawspick6

    Pats and Belichick are masters at adjustments. Playing Butler was an obvious adjustment to make. Nothing else was working that game and they left one of their best options on the sidelines. Don’t start him, fine, but once the secondary gets shredded and its clear its not letting up, it should be all hands on deck. Butler cover skills are better than his replacements and he’s their best tackler when plays get past the front 7, which would have helped a lot. It was and always will be dumb that he didn’t get a shot in that game.

  63. illumination666 says:
    May 24, 2018 at 12:45 pm
    Soo.. I already bought my #51 Michel jersey.

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    Honestly if they were selling those right now I would grab one. It would be a hoot.

  64. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    May 24, 2018 at 12:14 pm
    So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? This guy was garbage at LSU…
    ——————————————–

    Why is a Jets fan like you concerned about a 7th round draft pick who likely, at best, will end up on the Pats or another team’s practice squad this season?

    How do you feel about your Jets just trading away former 2nd round QB pick Christian Hackenberg?

  65. thefox61 says:
    May 24, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    Brandon in Northwest Suburbia says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:09 am
    Michel was a weird pick for NE. An older RB (already 23) with a huge medical red flag who had almost as many fumbles as receptions last year going to a pass heavy team where fumbling is a mortal sin and RBs are interchangeable?

    With their first round pick??

    Really curious to see how BB uses him.
    …………………………………..
    Maybe converting him to a linebacker?

    ———————
    Lol. If he now emerged as the next franchise all pro pass rusher that would be so funny.

  66. Brandon in Northwest Suburbia says:
    May 24, 2018 at 6:09 am

    Michel was a weird pick for NE…

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    As someone who watched every snap of Michel’s college career, I can assure you he is a prototype multi purpose back. He can run between tackles, bounce it outside, block, and catch the ball. Georgia’s offense just never set up pass plays to the RB’s. Also, neither his health nor his ability to take care of the football were an issue in college. There’s no reason he can’t emerge as a true #1 for NE. High character guy too, with great work ethic.

  67. But won’t it be embarrassing when they post their training camps pics on MyFace, YourFace, or InstantFace wearing a wrong number???

  68. “BB should use Roman numerals or put numbers In such tiny font size that you need a magnifying glass to resolve them. Unless there’s a rule specificity against it – but I doubt it.”

    **********************

    I like that idea. If Super Bowls get Roman numerals, why not players?

    And to build on the Roman theme, put the name SPARTACVS on the back of each jersey. (I’ll pause here while folks Google out that “V” vs. “U” thing…)

  69. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    May 24, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? Just wow. This guy was garbage at LSU, if Belichick and McDaniels can turn him into at least a viable NFL backup it will be a miracle.

    ============================

    I’m sure Ettling must have been pretty good in high school to make a large div. 1 college program. According to you, that qualifies him to be in line to lead the Pats to a few more SB’s. Pats have a magic QB “system”, right? Too bad BB is only 18-19 when Brady doesn’t start.

  70. Mark Perez says:
    May 24, 2018 at 8:00 am

    You know why his cheating ass does this he is afraid some one will tape his practices like he did.
    ————————

    So, it would be impossible for teams to analyze formations and tendencies without player numbers?

  71. Chill_Donahue says:
    May 24, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    May 24, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? Just wow. This guy was garbage at LSU, if Belichick and McDaniels can turn him into at least a viable NFL backup it will be a miracle.

    ============================

    I’m sure Ettling must have been pretty good in high school to make a large div. 1 college program. According to you, that qualifies him to be in line to lead the Pats to a few more SB’s. Pats have a magic QB “system”, right? Too bad BB is only 18-19 when Brady doesn’t start.

    ——–

    BB is also 3-1 and 11-5 without Brady. Brady without BB on the other hand is just Brian Griese’s backup and a 199th draft pick. Perhaps that’s why he begged Mr. Kraft to stay when BB wanted to trade him. He was afraid he would have been exposed away from BB.

  72. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    May 24, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Chill_Donahue says:
    May 24, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    May 24, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    So Danny Etling was really drafted to play QB not switch position like Edelman? Just wow. This guy was garbage at LSU, if Belichick and McDaniels can turn him into at least a viable NFL backup it will be a miracle.

    ============================

    I’m sure Ettling must have been pretty good in high school to make a large div. 1 college program. According to you, that qualifies him to be in line to lead the Pats to a few more SB’s. Pats have a magic QB “system”, right? Too bad BB is only 18-19 when Brady doesn’t start.

    ——–

    BB is also 3-1 and 11-5 without Brady. Brady without BB on the other hand is just Brian Griese’s backup and a 199th draft pick. Perhaps that’s why he begged Mr. Kraft to stay when BB wanted to trade him. He was afraid he would have been exposed away from BB.

    ============================

    False. BB is 18-19 without Brady starting, period…full stop…. you can’t just cherry pick certain stretches. And 33 of those 37 games were started by a QB who went to a Pro Bowl and 3 of the QBs who started went on the have better years AFTER leaving the Pats magical QB system. You have no answer for this.

    If Ettling isn’t that good and you think Brady isn’t that good, Ettling must have Super Bowls in his future right? The system will provide! That’s your broken logic.

    And then you say Pats should have kept Jimmy G, who is much more expensive and less proven. Why keep one of the most expensive QBs in the NFL in Jimmy G, when you think the magic QB system would produce a winner out of a scrub? Again, broken logic.

  73. If Ettling isn’t that good and you think Brady isn’t that good, Ettling must have Super Bowls in his future right? The system will provide! That’s your broken logic.

    ——-

    Let me put it this way, if Ettling was on Michigan roster in 1995, he would have been a backup to a backup to a Brian Griese’s backup. That’s just how less than mediocre he is. Believe me I watch SEC football and I am familiar with the guy. If Belichick can simply get this guy to be a viable backup QB in the league and it would be a big accomplishment.

  74. In Response to…

    >Sure things:
    >1. The sun rises every morning.
    >2. Death
    >3. Taxes
    >4. The word ‘cheat’ is used by the haters.

    1. Actually, it is more that the earth rotates bringing the sun into view.
    2. I guess as a mere mortal, you may see this as a sure thing.
    3. Ever heard of creative writing (form filling)? The IRQ could owe you! Think of it like being paid to work from home.
    4. You are correct. Haters hate.

  75. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    May 24, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    If Ettling isn’t that good and you think Brady isn’t that good, Ettling must have Super Bowls in his future right? The system will provide! That’s your broken logic.

    ——-

    Let me put it this way, if Ettling was on Michigan roster in 1995, he would have been a backup to a backup to a Brian Griese’s backup. That’s just how less than mediocre he is. Believe me I watch SEC football and I am familiar with the guy. If Belichick can simply get this guy to be a viable backup QB in the league and it would be a big accomplishment.

    =============================/

    I’ll take your word on Ettling but that wasn’t the question.

  76. The Billyrumpswabs are funny to think some special-teamer was a better choice than Butler who played 97% of the snaps all year. Either Billy is an idiot for playing somebody who sucked on 97% of the snaps all year long, or he’s an idiot for not playing in the SB the guy he felt was good enough to play 97% of the snaps all year.

    Can’t have it both ways, Rumpswabs.

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