NFL admits there was no formal vote on new anthem policy

AP

The NFL claimed that its owners unanimously voted to adopt a new anthem policy. And, as it turns out, the vote wasn’t unanimous. Also, there wasn’t a vote.

After ESPN’s Seth Wickersham reported that no actual vote was taken, the NFL admitted that, indeed, no formal vote was taken. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy told ESPN that the league called for a show of hands to test support for the revised anthem policy.

That was considered a vote,” NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said. He added that this unofficial process is “often used.”

Still, with at least two owners abstaining (49ers CEO Jed York and Raiders owner Mark Davis) and at least one other owner (Jets CEO Christopher Johnson) apparently willing to defy the NFL’s no-protest position and treat the ensuing fines like parking tickets without punishing any protesting players, it wasn’t really unanimous. Even though the NFL said it was.

Unanimous or not, the external consensus seems to be that the NFL managed to take a bad situation that had assumed a fairly low profile and both make it worse and give it a much higher profile. Which means that, at a time the league surely wishes this one was over, it’s far from it.

25 responses to “NFL admits there was no formal vote on new anthem policy

  1. Under Robert’s Rules of Order (the most widely accepted manual on parliamentary procedures in the US), an abstention is not counted as a vote. “Unanimous consent” occurs if there are no objections raised. Thus, Goodell was quite correct to say it was unanimous vote if no one opposed the policy change.

    Second, a “show of hands” is an absolutely valid form of voting and is recognized by every institutional, governmental and societal organization in the world. It’s disappointing that some would try to diminish such procedure that is at the core of our democracy.

  2. Goodell proves, once again, he’s a pathetic liar (see: concussion testimony). Makes sense that he would cave to the POTUS (King of Liars), who took time away from his golf game to chime in about patriotism. They deserve each other.

  3. “The NFL claimed that its owners unanimously voted to adopt a new anthem policy. And, as it turns out, the vote wasn’t unanimous. Also, there wasn’t a vote.”

    If any of the owners was sufficiently against this proposal, they could have called for a vote.

    Their decision to not do so, constitutes their agreement with instituting the policy, so it was a unanimous decision to move forward.

    Your assumption that this makes the situation worse is highly questionable. The situation was not “low profile” when people like you keep bringing it up – keeping it at the forefront.

    Your frequent threads on the so-called collusion lawsuit by Kaepernick and Reid only furthered the heightened profile of the situation.

    You can’t have it both ways – claiming something to be “low profile” – yet reporting on it nearly every day.

  4. well, they changed the catch rule during the super bowl which allowed the eagles to win their first and only one without a vote

  5. NFL can’t stay out of its own way. They lost more fans this week than gained judging by my local watering hole and client’s offices. They would have been better off doing nothing as this wasn’t as big of an issue during the season as it is now. Glad they took such care in their employees freedom of speech here. Don’t even bother doing an actual vote.

  6. How did they make it worse? Most fans seem to support the new rule as its primary goal seems to be to remove politics from football, which is exactly what most of us wanted. The decision also seems to have left people on the extreme ends of both sides of the issue unhappy, which is usually a sign that a fair compromise between the two camps was achieved.

    The only reason the protests had a low profile is that this is the off-season when no games are being played, there is no reason to believe that it wouldn’t have flared up again in September unless all the players unanimously decided to stand with hand on heart during the anthem. By making this rule now, in the off-season, it may very well fade into insignificance once the season starts and protesting players restrict themselves to the locker room (which they will, if the NFL has the gumption to stick to its guns and continue to impose increasing fines on clubs that allow players to kneel on the field).

  7. I got a message for everyone that’s against the NFLs new Anthem policy. It comes from one of the Rolling Stones best hits; “You can’t always get what cha want”! Its comical how Trump has gotten inside the heads of all his opponents. I find it very entertaining. Geaux Saints!

  8. scutz1972 – your 10:02

    He can’t, he won’t, ad infinitum – this is his signature cause. He’s kept it alive since I don’t know when, and when he sits down to write his memoirs (God forbid!!) the odds are good that he will lead off with it – and end with it.

  9. It is absolutely patriotic to protest a perceived wrong: cops killing unarmed blacks
    It is absolutely respectful to take a knee in this protest. The players aren’t burning the flag, yelling epithets nor destroying up property
    It is definitely attacking free speech to block or fine or punish this expression of protest
    It is definitely hypocritical to sing of and profess freedom and equality when you have a problem with people who point out these things are not happening for all.

  10. Seriously?

    I don’t care if you are a Democrat or Republican… don’t you see that this a crack in the Dam for democracy in general?

  11. Another knee jerk reaction by Goodell. He blew the Ray Rice incident several years ago. At that time, he did nothing. He chose to sweep domestic violence by NFL players under the table. When that video surfaced, Goodell was caught flat footed. Now every played that is accused of domestic violence is guilty in the NFL’s mind.

    Last year Goodell chose to do nothing about taking a respectful knee during the Anthem. Enter Trump, who has been turned down in his attempt to be an NFL owner several times in the past, and now it’s a big deal. Trump went so far as to ask fans to boycott the NFL for whatever the true reason was. Yes, some Trump supporters did boycott. Now, without a formal vote on the subject, Goodell has decided any member of any team who is on the field when the Anthem is playing stand in a respectful way, or stay off the field. Goodell considers that’s a respectful way to protest. Once again another knee jerk reaction by Goodell. If he wanted to do something, last year was the proper time. I can understand both sides of this issue. I’m not taking sides. But I am finding fault with Goodell. I have NO confidence in Goodell doing the right thing in a timely manner. A good leader he is not!

  12. Michael Buie Films (PlatinumProductionzLtd) says:

    It is definitely attacking free speech to block or fine or punish this expression of protest
    ______________________________________________________

    Explain to me how this is blocking free speech and banning social media use during the game and 90 minutes before and after is not…

  13. ncphinsfan says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Seriously?

    I don’t care if you are a Democrat or Republican… don’t you see that this a crack in the Dam for democracy in general?
    ____________________________________
    What a private company decides to do to protect their brand or image has zero to do with a “crack in the dam for democracy”. This stupidity of this is no one is against players supporting whatever issue they care about, people are upset because they believe players are disrespecting the country and fallen soldiers who died protecting our freedom.

    NFL noticed the majority of their fans believed its disrespectful and fans tuned out. simple as that

  14. alongthegulf says: “Another knee jerk reaction by Goodell. He blew the Ray Rice incident several years ago. At that time, he did nothing. He chose to sweep domestic violence by NFL players under the table.”
    —————————

    Ray Rice was initially suspended for two games. PREVIOUS commissioners swept DV under the table – not Goodell. Example – HOF Warren Moon’s son called 911 on him as he assaulted his wife. Tagliabue never did anything to punish Moon – no fine or suspension. Whereas Rice’s two games was a long punishment for DV up to that point and it still wasn’t good enough for the mob mentality. Go find an example of DV being punished in the 50’s, 60’s 70s 80s or 90s. You won’t be able to.

  15. Michael Buie Films (PlatinumProductionzLtd) says:

    It is absolutely patriotic to protest a perceived wrong: cops killing unarmed blacks
    —- so it’s okay for cops to kill unarmed whites? Why not protest all cop killings?

    It is absolutely respectful to take a knee in this protest.
    —- sure, but on your own time. Not while you’re wearing the team uniform and work hours.

    It is definitely attacking free speech to block or fine or punish this expression of protest
    —- protection of free speech applies only to government. Try working at Starbucks and then telling customers how crappy the coffee is there and they should go across the street to Seattle’s Best.

    It is definitely hypocritical to sing of and profess freedom and equality when you have a problem with people who point out these things are not happening for all.
    —- If you want to be an EMPLOYEE, follow work rules. You don’t have a “freedom” to stroll in at noon or the “equality” of parking in the CEO’s spot…

  16. I cancelled my Sunday Ticket subscription yesterday after around 20 years. I’m sure I’m not alone. They just shot themselves in the foot by thinking the loud minority of racists in this country actually speak for most Americans. They don’t.

  17. NFL is starting to look and behave like Congress. Disagree on everything and then pass a stupid knee jerk rule.

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