Cassius Marsh: Garoppolo “would shred [New England’s] defense every day”

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As the Patriots continue to work their way through the offseason program without starting quarterback Tom Brady, the guy who at one point seemed destined to replace him is working toward his first season as a full-time starter. And all indications are that Jimmy Garoppolo will become a true franchise quarterback for the 49ers.

Take it from current teammate Cassius Marsh, who at one point was a teammate of Garoppolo’s in New England.

“I was with the Patriots and he would shred our defense every day,” Marsh said recently, via Eric Branch of SFGate.com. “He’d shred the first team every day, and it looked no different than when Tom was on the field. He’s a much better athlete than Tom. He’s super disciplined and works hard. I’m very happy to have him as my quarterback.”

Some Patriots fans possibly wish Garoppolo was still New England’s quarterback. Especially since their current quarterback is the only starting quarterback boycotting his team’s offseason workouts.

86 responses to “Cassius Marsh: Garoppolo “would shred [New England’s] defense every day”

  1. Number 1 ….big deal every decent QB shreds the Patsies defense
    Number 2 …..c’mon now bandwagon nation start ripping on Garoppolo

  2. Possibly a confession about how “good” Marsh was in practice, but everyone in NE wants to see JG do well regardless. When JG wins 5 SB’s as a franchise QB and an MVP at age 40, then he has earned the right to be compared to TB12 though. To his credit, JG would probably say the same.

  3. Jimmy G is the real deal, but shredding that defense last year is nothing to get excited about ..it was awful.

  4. Brady wanting Jimmy out, Kraft asking Bilicheat to trade Jimmy and Bilicheat actually trading Jimmy will be the legacy these men will all be remembered for…. And the cheating.

  5. Coaches, fans and management have their own opinions on players but, the highest praise for a player is that his teammates or opponents view him as a player that can or does helps his team win.

    Says a lot about him

    Players know who the ballers are

  6. Sample size is to small. Let’s have jimmy play a full season before we crown him. Didn’t Ryan leaf have a better first 6 games than manning.

  7. That mistake will eventually haunt the Pats for a long time. It’s all on Kraft, anyone that’s listened to Belicheck over the years knows how he feels about aging players and when to replace them. As a fan of the team since 75 I’ve seen the bad times and without BB running the show and no competent QB for the future they are destined to return. Jimmy’s not only a better athlete, he’s a better QB than Tom at this point in time.

  8. “it looked no different than when Tom was on the field.”

    Also looked no different when Cassel, Mallett and Hoyer were on the field. Just more facts that prove Bill’s system can make any QB look good.

    Also, when Nick Foles is catching a touchdown pass on his way to Superbowl MVP, I’m pretty sure most QBs could shred that defense.

  9. Pats fan here. I wish we kept JG. That trade marks the end of the dynasty. It’s obvious BB didn’t want to do it but Kraft forced the issue to keep Tom happy. Now Tom has all the leverage. Also very telling that BB hasn’t signed another extension.

    This scenario is basically what would’ve played out in Green Bay if the franchise caved to Farve and shipped off Rodgers.
    The dynasty is over. It was a great run while it lasted.

  10. There is no way BB was onboard with the JG trade. This is 100% on Kraft. Belichick had that the Pats set-up for another 10 year run with JG at the helm. Instead Kraft forces BB to trade JG out of loyalty to TB12 & BB has to start over with a 41 year old diva QB.

    It’s shocking that BB is putting up with this & isn’t walking away.

  11. Let’s tap the brakes okay? Jimmy G has yet to play a full season and he was injured within 2 games of starting. Typical offseason, make stuff up to meet a deadline crud. I feel pretty confident ole Tommy can come in during mandatory workouts and pick up the system he has been in for 18 years fairly quickly. Brady has more Super Bowl appearances than Jimmy G has starts. What say we hold off on casting the HOF bust just yet.

  12. Shredding the Patriots first team defense isn’t exactly that hard… just ask Foles.

  13. Most Patriots fans wish he was still here. Kraft very much misread the fan base on this one.

  14. Some Patriots fans possibly wish Garoppolo was still New England’s quarterback.
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    I think you would find few, if any, genuine Patriots fans who do not wish Garoppolo was still in New England, but the Patriots simply were unable to afford keeping Garoppolo and the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, Tom Brady.

    Some will want to argue that the Patriots should have unceremoniously dumped Brady, just like the classless Colts*** organization dumped their first ballot HOFer, and arguably one of the top five all-time regular season QBs Peyton Manning. But what has that move actually netted the Colts***??? A once and maybe still promising young QB in Andrew Luck who I like but has, to date, only helped the Colts raise one participant banner; and his career, until proven otherwise, is in jeopardy. I also like Jacoby Brissett, but my guess is that Jacoby will have a nice 10-12 year journeyman NFL career, although I will be happy to be proven wrong should Jacoby become a successful long-time starter with a team.

    I am hoping Garoppolo has a great career and leads the 49ers to multiple Super Bowls, but I will never regret the Patriots keeping Brady for what I expect will be the final two years of his career.

  15. Garopollo looks promising but has a long way to go before he beats out Brady’s stellar career.

  16. Trading, no, giving JG. away…New England’s self inflicted kill shot..
    Welcome to the basement for the next decade folks…

  17. Pats should have traded Brady and kept Jimmy.
    In your heart, Pats fans, you know this is true because it would have ensured another decade or more of glory.

  18. Nobody in NE wanted to see Jimmy leave. Nobody. The only solution to keeping Jimmy was to trade/cut Brady and that wasn’t going to happen for obvious reasons. It’s just the nature of the salary cap.

  19. What wil happen if Jimmy has a ‘2nd year’ like Dak, will people begin to say the 49ers got fleeced? What if gets injured as he did with the Pats?

    Let’s see what he does in his first year as the starter. I harness no hard feelings towards Jimmy and wish he was still in NE but the contracts and Toms level of play just didn’t line up unfortunately.

    And sticking to the article for Cassius, the Eagles back up QB shredded the first team defense of the Patriots so what’s your point? The patriots defense wasn’t as good as advertised last year with injuries taking a toll

  20. Can we get off the “Tom Brady is skipping voluntary workouts” thing. He is 41 years old and has been playing almost 20 years. I think he will be alright missing a few team sessions. He probably thinks he’s better off resting his body for longer, since he always plays so long in the postseason. If the team sucks, there will be bigger reasons than him missing some workouts.

  21. Since March was on that defense, what does that say about him. The question is what is jimmy g doing the 49ers defense

  22. give me a break with all this Jimmy G hype, we’ll see what he does this year when teams have more film on him, then we’ll see if Cassius thinks the same way……..i’m not buying the hype.

  23. Way to go. You just unnecessarily put even more pressure on your QB who just signed a top 3 richest contract in football by saying he was as good as the most decorated QB in history. Good luck with him living up to that hype because I’m pretty sure it won’t work out that way.

  24. Why is everyone measuring him for his HOF jacket already. He helped win the last 5 games last season, but most of the teams played had a losing season already or were resting players for the playoffs.

  25. A defense that gets to 3 out of 4 Super Bowls in a row. Yeah, they really suck.

  26. Wrong Cassius! JimmyG shredded the Pats’ IR-decimated defense of 2017 that was so banged-up (4 starting D-line & 2 starting DBs on IR before week 1, soon followed by 2 LBs including captain Hightower) that on Sept 2nd the Pats even traded for Cassius for 9 games (1 start). Look, I think JimmyG will do very well and could bag at least one ring for the 49ers, but Cassius only has experience of the 2nd-string Pats D. Because Pats still reached the SB everyone overlooks they had 17 starters IR (plus others out) almost all season including half of their biggest names.

  27. dxfiler says:
    May 26, 2018 at 12:50 am

    This scenario is basically what would’ve played out in Green Bay if the franchise caved to Farve and shipped off Rodgers.

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    Great observation.

  28. gysot says:
    May 26, 2018 at 8:48 am
    So did phillys backup QB.
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    Calling Foles a mere “backup” is ridiculous Philly underdog crap – Foles started in most games (39 of 49) of his career and was starter before Wentz. And if traded will be a starter there too.

  29. So would everyone else. It isn’t a good defense. And no not because it was “IR-decimated” – Pats have won a lot of key games against IR-decimated teams and you don’t seem to take that into consideration when considering their success, that’s part f football. But I wouldn’t be jumping on to the JG bandwagon just yet. 5 games, most played against substandard teams or teams not playing starters. And in those 5 games, 5 INTs. That is not a good stat. Let’s see how he does in year 2 and 3 before we anoint him.

  30. Do I wish the Pats could have kept JG & Brady, sure I do, but that option was just not feasible in a salary cap era….
    Having him as Brady’s back up for 4 years was a true luxury & controlling where he went was VERY IMPORTANT for the Pats, so settling for a high second rounder & that, was the smart play at the time. Tom Brady had an MVP Year last year & looks like he has 4-5 more good if not great years ahead of him, & as a Pats fan for over 40 years I’m very happy to have kept TB12 as the leader of the Pats & see him spend his entire career as a Patriot!!
    I also believe the Pats have time to find & groom a Future QB while The GOAT is still playing…..
    New England has a great staff from top to bottom….I can, as a fan, love with that knowledge & have faith in the Patriots future, and still understand that the sheer greatness & incredible display of football that I & so many other fans/non Patriot fans have seen these past 2 decades will probably never be seen again…. I truly feel BLESSED to have witnessed it, especially with corrupt & jealous Owners & League doing everything in its power to prevent it from happening…. ITS JUST BEEN AMAZING TO WATCH & WITNESS IT ALL UNFOLD BEFORE MY VERY EYES!!!
    & until Tom & BB call it a career the ride will CONTINUE to put a smile on my face!!!!
    Go Pats!!!!

  31. Cant stand the revisionist history here.

    Brady never asked Kraft to trade Garapollo, and Kraft never forced Belichick to do anything. Jimmy was a free agent at the end of the year and if the Patriots don’t make a trade they get nothing for him. NOTHING.

    Who in their right mind would trade a 1st round pick (or more) for a guy who could be signed in free agency for no picks 6 months later?

    Faced with that, and knowing it made no sense to trade a proven starter and keep a guy who had only 1.5 games of experience, NE kept Brady and they made the best deal they could for him.

    By shipping Jimmy to SF they sent him out of the AFC and to a team that could (and did) agree to sign him long term at a place where he was willing to stay.

    The question is why would SF give up even a 2nd round pick for a guy they could have signed in free agency? Let’s assume they figured that was a fair price to avoid the competition from other teams.

    And why wouldn’t NE have tried to get more elsewhere? Like in Cleveland, perhaps? Because Jimmy would not have signed there long term, and as a result Cleveland would not have offered more. But lets say they were stupid and traded a 1st round pick for him anyway.

    Maybe they even franchise him for a year or two. But ultimately Jimmy is a FA and ends up possibly in Buffalo, or Miami or NYJ – or even Denver or Pitt, none which NE wanted.

    So they took a deal, shipped him to the NFC and got what they could.

    Is Jimmy the 2nd coming? Let’s see him play one full season against real competition in games that matter.

  32. The Pats traded 2 draft picks for Marsh and then waived him because he can’t play. Why put any stock into what he says?

  33. Mediocre defensive player rips on Brady, the GOAT. Really? If Garappalo was as good as Brady passing and was a much better athlete, why wasn’t he starting?

  34. Everyone has their opinion about Brady and Jimmy G. The only thing that matters is what Bill Belichick’s opinion is. He is the one that makes the decisions. You think you are smarter than the most successful coach/GM of all time? I’ll go with his choice every time. When it was reported he was considering leaving the Patriots, all the haters and opposing teams were getting excited that they could lure BB to be their next coach. You all make me laugh!!

  35. Umm…Jay Culter shredded the Pats’ defense! So what exactly is this guy’s point? That the Patriots’ defense sucks? Most already knew this.

  36. Let’s slow down on jimmy being the next Tom Brady. The sample size is way to small. Didn’t Ryan leaf have a better first 6 or so games to his career than manning.

  37. Clueless buffoons like whywerule are typical of the patriot fanbase. The Colts didn’t dump Manning, they mutually agreed it was the best option. Manning would’ve gotten slaughtered behind that offensive line in 2012. Manning got paid 25 million in 2011 to do nothing and signed the richest contract in history mere weeks before announcing he was having surgery, so who fleeced who you imbecile?

  38. @xavier179
    I dont know what games you were watching. Only game was the last game vs Rams who didnt have all starters. Week 16 vs Jaguars, they had to compete for Home field and played all starters and 49ers whooped them. I agree, small window of what JG has done. But there is nothing that shows he cannot be a great QB. I’d rather him “shred” Pateiots D than not, I’d rather him win last 5 games then not. So saying its “Only” Patriots or only 5 games, he did all he can do in his opportunities. Week 16 he also shredded the Jaguars defense, he also did well vs Chicagoa Defense who was a top 10 last year based on Net Yards allowed. Yes there is a lot of hype, but that’s the NFL for you, dont bash him for it

  39. carloswlassiter says:
    May 26, 2018 at 10:16 am
    Cant stand the revisionist history here.

    Brady never asked Kraft to trade Garapollo, and Kraft never forced Belichick to do anything. Jimmy was a free agent at the end of the year and if the Patriots don’t make a trade they get nothing for him. NOTHING.

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    Say’s you. I think Brady DID ask Kraft to trade Garoppolo. I think Bill made it pretty clear he wanted to keep Jimmy. Kraft forced his hand. One day, when they’re both done, we’ll find out who’s right.

  40. Lots of comments about Kraft “forcing” Belichick to keep Brady and ship Garoppolo off to the 49ers. That’s a hypothesis lacking any data to support it. Sure, the Seth Wickersham article pushed the idea of an intense half-day meeting that had all Pats front office people in a tizzy… but it has since been reported that the meeting never happened (in addition to Bob Kraft saying it never happened).

    So as a Patriots fan, absolutely I would have loved for them to keep Jimmy G around. But it was financially impossible (assuming Garoppolo was even willing to stay as a backup). The other option would have been trading Brady. Despite being the GOAT, he’s 40 years old and would require a team to completely revamp their offense to suit him. The latter fact would limit the interest of teams that already have a playoff caliber offense. On the flip side, struggling teams are looking for long term stability, not a two year fill-in. I’m not convinced they could have gotten much more for Brady than they did for Garoppolo.

    I suspsect the trade will end up working out for both sides. The Patriots will still be challenging for conference and SB titles over the next couple of years, and the 49ers will improve their position in an increasingly difficult NFC West with a starting QB for the next decade.

  41. Belichick picked and trained 2 excellent qbs, one of which is the greatest football player of all time. That’s just one of the reasons he’s recognized as the greatest gm coach of all time. We’ll take it.

  42. Meanwhile New England very nearly won another Super Bowl last year while 30 other teams were out golfing.

  43. thermanmerman99 says:
    May 26, 2018 at 11:33 am
    Clueless buffoons like whywerule are typical of the patriot fanbase. The Colts didn’t dump Manning, they mutually agreed it was the best option..
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    So your view, and Peyton Manning’s view apparently, is that Manning was easily disposable because he was no more than the 2nd best QB of his era, trailing Tom Brady. Fair enough. And trailing the greatness of Tom Brady is nothing to be ashamed of because all QBs who came before Tom Brady, and likely all QBs who follow Tom Brady, will trail Tom Brady in QB excellence.

  44. The Patriots traded the wrong QB last year, there is really no sense in denying that anymore. Each one of these stories illustrates, BB was right in wanting to keep Jimmy G.

  45. Some people claim that Jimmy G won 7 meaningless games to compile a 7-0 record as starter in the NFL. Jacksonville and Tennessee players and coaches would disagree. They were battling for home field advantage and/or playoff berths when they lost to Frisco last season. He also won twice for New England while Tom Brady was serving the ridiculous inflate gate suspension.

  46. People who keep talking about “well we’ll see how Garoppolo does when teams have film on him” kill me.

    What are they going to see? That the guy has a lightning quick release? That after a few weeks with them he took a 1 win team on a 5 game winning streak which included wins against multiple playoff teams. That he put up big numbers throwing to late round rookies, undrafted receivers and guys signed off the street like Louis Murphy. That he performed like one of the top QBs in football while under pressure, playing behind a shoddy 49ers OL.

    This isn’t a Kaepernick situation where it became abundantly clear that he couldn’t read a defense to save his life. Garoppolo is a traditional pocket passer. No gimmicks. He’lll sit back in the pocket, make his reads, find the open guy and pick you apart if you give him the time.

    Dick LeBeau threw the kitchen sink at him in terms of exotic blitzes and it didn’t faze him. Jacksonville’s star laden playoff bound defense didn’t faze him.

    And all of this was with having a cue card knowledge of a complex offense that it took Matt Ryan a full season to get comfortable in.

    So really what is the tape going to reveal that will counter Garoppolo having had a full offseason to learn the offense and the 49ers having upgraded the talent around him via free agency and the draft?

  47. thenewguy12 says:
    May 26, 2018 at 5:57 pm
    People who keep talking about “well we’ll see how Garoppolo does when teams have film on him” kill me.

    What are they going to see? That the guy has a lightning quick release? That after a few weeks with them he took a 1 win team on a 5 game winning streak which included wins against multiple playoff teams. That he put up big numbers throwing to late round rookies, undrafted receivers and guys signed off the street like Louis Murphy. That he performed like one of the top QBs in football while under pressure, playing behind a shoddy 49ers OL.
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    So they should give him the MVP now? What about the Lombardi?

    The guy has played 6.5 NFL games – the only one of which he was under pressure was Week 1 against AZ while on NE. He may be the next Brady. Or he may be better than Brady. Or he may be the next Andrew Luck. Or Josh Freeman. Can we watch him play one season before we decide?

  48. redclaw1314 says:
    May 26, 2018 at 6:21 am
    Pats traded the wrong quarterback and will be reminded of this for many years to come.

    ==/==/===/=======

    Yea cuz when you can sign an unproven QB with durability questions to the largest QB contract in the NFL over keeping the cheaper and obviously more proven REIGNING NFL MVP , you gotta do it?

  49. Marsh was sooo bad last year the terrible Pat’s D cut him. He used to get lit up by blockers all the time. Possible sour grapes on his part too.

  50. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    May 26, 2018 at 4:40 pm
    The Patriots traded the wrong QB last year, there is really no sense in denying that anymore. Each one of these stories illustrates, BB was right in wanting to keep Jimmy G.
    =========================

    Again avoiding the question, haha love it . So I guess the Pats magic system doesn’t exist after all.

  51. So a guy who quite frankly isn’t good enough to be water boy for either Brady or JG has an opinion on the back to back AFC and 5 time World Champions.

    Neat.

    🙂

  52. Some people harping the INTs last season for Garoppolo probably didn’t see the actual INTs. A lot of them were on the WRs(most of whom weren’t even on an NFL roster in September or October) or Stripped ball INTs. A few were on Garoppolo but the majority weren’t.

  53. Kinda fragile, be careful S.F. Fans, Jimmy G has a glass jaw compared most nfl qb’s.
    If he plays 12 games without an injury you’ll be very lucky.
    Personally I really liked Jimmy G when he was here for his 3 or 4 years but it seemed he was always dinged up or
    had some type of ailment he was being treated for.
    50 -50 he makes it through the season.

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