Kaepernick’s lawyer seems to think President and Vice President violated federal law over anthem issue

AP

At a time when the President has more than a few things to worry about when it comes to pending criminal investigations, at least one person thinks the President and the Vice President may have violated federal law in relation to this attack against the NFL over the anthem issue.

As noted on Thursday by LawAndCrime.com, attorney Mark Geragos suggested in a Thursday tweet that efforts of the top two members of the executive branch to pressure the NFL to force players to stand for the anthem potentially run afoul of Title 18, Section 227 of the United States Code. A violation of 18 U.S.C. 227 arises if the President and/or the Vice President intended “to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity” and “influence[d], or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another.”

A clear example of a prohibited action under 18 U.S.C. 227 would arise if, for example, the President pressures a news outlet to fire a reporter who asks too many tough questions, under threat of revoking access. While more murky as it relates to the NFL, it seems fairly clear that the President and/or the Vice President have pressured (successfully) the NFL to remove the pre-existing right of its players to protest during the national anthem.

It feels too simple to be applicable, but the language is as plain as it can be. And the punishment feels too harsh, with imprisonment of up to 15 years and potential disqualification from holding office.

But the law contains a bright line that potentially may have been crossed. The NFL is a private employer. The President and/or the Vice President successfully pressured the NFL to change its anthem policy to remove the right of players of protest during the anthem, which  amounts to an employment practice.

At a time when far more complex and convoluted facts are being considered by prosecutors for potential criminal actions by the President and those close to him, maybe there’s silver bullet is hiding in plain sight — one that could knock both the President and the Vice President out of office.

It’s unlikely that the dominoes would fall this way, but the law says what it says. If there’s a prosecutor who is willing to attempt to enforce it, who knows what might happen?

174 responses to “Kaepernick’s lawyer seems to think President and Vice President violated federal law over anthem issue

  1. Well that settles everything! Kaepernick’s lawyer said this? Will Trump ever recover?

  2. “Solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation” would seem to not be applicable

  3. Nonsense. Last time I checked, the NFL did it because their fans were protesting in the form of lack of ratings and attendance. And that started way before the president said word one. And the NBA has even more strict rules re standing for the anthem with direct penalties against the player – including suspension. Lastly, I assure you, Trump is not worried about any criminal investigations.

  4. What an idiot. It doesn’t ‘seems fairly clear that the President and/or the Vice President have pressured (successfully) the NFL to remove the pre-existing right of its players to protest during the national anthem’ except in your convoluted head.

  5. That would be poetic justice.He said “get that SOB off the field. You’re fired. He also says “Lock her up”. Now Kaep can tel him he’s fired, and HRC can say lock HIM up.

  6. How does Trump, a President that apparently no one likes or respects, have enough sway to get almost 32 team owners to see things his way? How could that be? Also, you do realize that the Trump investigation is reavealimg far more dirt on his opponents than it is in him, right??

  7. It’s really nice that you guys have been able to cover this issue without letting any political bias show.

  8. As usual, your one-sided political commentary leaves heads scratching. Are you implying that simply commenting and giving your opinion, as the Pres and VP did today, in itself, constitute any crime? Are you suggesting that the President is threatening to have Roger or the NFL come under some type of scrutiny or unwarranted prosecution if they don’t ‘comply’ with the Pres’s request?
    Where and when did this happen as this would of had to of happened and there would also need to be a follow-through other than twitter to make it a “crime”.

    Right or wrong (and Doug Baldwin is 100% right) Commenting and / or giving your opinion, like the pres unwisely did today, is their right under our constitution for free speech, unless the President is somehow not allowed.

  9. I’m not a Trump fan or a lawyer, but I can argue against that conviction quickly. “It wasn’t solely for political purposes, it was to support our veterans.” (gag me).

    I want Trump impeached in disgrace as much as anyone, but there are plenty more things to get worked up about.

  10. Wow. I’ll be the first to say Kaep and his dimwitted lawyers have been nothing but BS artist antagonists to this point, but if the law’s written the way you say it is, they might actually have something here.

  11. You think the President should be worried about pending legal issues? You may wish to get off of cnn and find out what’s really going on. There are a slew of pending legal issues, but it’s the previous administration that keeps turning up dirty.

  12. The majority of Americans feel you should stand, and they’re the ones who make the league as popular as it is. This is crazy that Trump saying players should stand for the anthem is controversial.

    So then by this logic Obama shouldn’t have been allowed to tall negative about guns because he was putting pressure on gun companies? This is a joke.

  13. Last week, we thought it could be a porn star that takes down the president.

    This week we think it could be a football league.

    Next week it might be (fill in the blank).

  14. Keep politics out of sports.I don’t care what any politician has to say about any game.You should be concerning yourselves with far more important things than this.

  15. You do realize the chain of command that if the President and VP go that leaves the Speaker Of the House soon to be Jim Jordan whose more conservative then both Trump or Pence right?

  16. You do realize the chain of command that if the President and VP go that leaves the Speaker Of the House soon to be Jim Jordan whose more conservative then both Trump or Pence right?

  17. Did you just beat up your pop star girlfriend or murder your pregnant wife? Do you have questions? Are you concerned about what your actions could mean for your immediate future?

    Call the office of Mark Geragos immediately so that he can review your case and let you know if it’s high profile enough for him.

  18. I can’t wait for for this to happen its justice, we won’t allow freedom of speech WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY! Last I saw I was an American was taught to believe what you thought is right! Even if many people thinks its wrong what is the big deal if you stand or kneel I’ve been to a lot of games and fans can’t take off their cap where is that outcry and they don’t know the words of tbe anthem

  19. “The President and/or the Vice President successfully pressured the NFL to change its anthem policy to remove the right of players of protest during the anthem”
    ———-

    But the NFL didn’t remove the right to protest during the anthem. They granted/affirmed a right to protest, by staying in the locker room during the anthem, to any players who are “not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color”.

  20. Enough with the Kaepernick stories! IF something actually happens on that front then let us know. Can’t wait for the season to start so we don’t have another off season filled with Kaep stories…..

  21. Please let it work…right after November 2018 when we have a Democrat Speaker…third in line.

  22. Mark Geragos is a terrible attorney who only costs his clients money. That slimeball represented murderous Scott Peterson, who ended up with the death penalty.

  23. Keep dreaming Mike, he’s not getting impeached. He puts America first in everything and this is another example of how patriotic our amazing President is.

  24. Oh please, Trump Forced no one as it was the Fans and their overwhelming disdain for these spoiled brat players that brought these changes. The fans supported Trump & that pissed off the left leaning NFL front office. Keep it going and you Will kill the NFL once & for all.

  25. what about maybe the general public pressured them into the decision? I’m feeling that was just as much if not more of the reason.

  26. How about the violation of the US Flag Code which clearly states that during the national anthem, “Persons present are expected to stand and face the flag, if there is one. Civilians should stand to attention with right hand over heart, while military personnel in uniform and veterans should salute throughout. A recent amendment to the code said that military personnel out of uniform could also salute.”
    There is no listed punishment for violations, but the flag code is law. Before going after someone for a violation, you should make sure you aren’t breaking one.
    ***This post is not an endorsement of anyone or supporting either side of an issue, I keep personal politics out of sports.***

  27. There was nothing of “partisan political affiliation” about trumps statements. He didn’t pressure them to be republicans. What law school did Gerardo go to?

  28. What so many Non-Lawyers and even some Lawyers don’t realize about the Kneeling/Anthem Issue…is that the the First Amendment does not Legally come into play in this situation. The 1st Amendment only applies to the abridgment of Free Speech BY A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. There is NO GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY involved here; the Teams are privately owned businesses and the Players are Employees. Imagine an Executive of a Company refusing to say the Pledge or stand for the Anthem as requested by the Owner or Board of the Company at the opening of a Retreat or Convention. That Executive could be fired for ‘conduct detrimental…’ and the First Amendment has absolutely NOTHING to do with such a situation…

  29. What a bunch of hooey. How can encouraging an act of patriotism (or discouraging an unpatriotic act) be interpreted as partisan politics? Only an extremely biased lawyer would think that. That says more about the lawyer than anything else. Or maybe believing patriotism is only for one political party and hating America for her flaws, imagined or real, is for the other political party. Sounds like unsound logic to me.

  30. The Florio and Kaepernick crowd want to put the outrage over the protests and Trump into the same category but that’s not the case. There are plenty of people who don’t like Trump who are against the protests and vice versa.

  31. on one hand the player’s attorney argues for free speech rights on the player’s part but argues against free speech rights of the President

  32. No one removed any of the players rights to protest. They provided them an area to do so if the players chooses to protest. They may elect to protest in the locker room. I haven’t read one thing that took away anyone’s privelege to protest.

  33. “At a time when the President has more than a few things to worry about”…

    ———————

    That liberally biased statement presupposes (actually wishes) Trump is worried about not just one, but multiple things, when in fact he’s not worried in the least about any of it. These liberal assumptions/delusions about what the left “thinks” the President thinks is just one of the contributing factors as to why he got elected in the first place. You think there’s a prosecutor foolish enough to “enforce” your interpretation of the law which would not only be futile but also likely end up being career suicide? Keep on swinging and missing. #YouStillDontGetIt

  34. POYUS and VPOTUS are allowed their opinions. Kaepernick is starting to sound like Hilary and her “I’m still mad I lost” whining.

  35. Classic case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. The law is unconstitutional, Congress is barred by the 1st from creating any laws that restricts free speech.That includes the president and vice president. If we ignore their rights ours will be next to go away.

  36. The more riled up people get about the President, the more power he holds over you. Let it go. Write a story about some teams OTA’S or something. Find a heart warming story about a player helping children at a local hospital. Propose something new and exciting, like bringing back the Wing T offense. Stop stressing over things that aren’t important.

  37. Where is law and order now??? Treasonous Trump has NO regard for laws whatsoever!! But he shows HE is above the law again and again!!
    Geragos may be a scumbag but he is just pointing out the law…the law that Trump is totally disregarding.
    To the Trumpettes who OBVIOUSLY do not understand what this country is about…you should have one way tickets to North Korea which has the type of government that you promote with your idiocy. Seems like that is what you want here!!!
    Goodell did what he does best…mismanage and he did it again with his stupidity and league ruling.

  38. 1. Trump will not be brought up on charges because he hasn’t committed a crime. Imagined or otherwise. In fact, many of the previous administration members have committed high treason and they’re the ones that should be worried. A sitting president used the DOJ as a weapon against political opponents in a race he wasn’t even running.

    2. NFL may be a private employer but the receive public funds AND they receive federal tax breaks and special treatment regarding anti-trust exemption. That puts them in the public arena – Same as how the federal government can then dictate things to schools/states/entities that receive public monies.

    3. If the government can force a bakery to make a cake, private companies to provide birth control of a specific type, religions the same – they can request/influence the NFL to provide a more respectful arrangement for protest. The difference being the .gov didn’t FORCE the NFL to do anything unlike the previous administration did.

    Oh, BTW – have you noticed how much more $$ is in your pay check, the status of the stock market and the fact that the Korean War is over with the return of hostages? A lot more has happened over the last 1.5 years than in the previous 8…

  39. Still doesn’t change the fact that Kaepernick will NEVER play in the NFL again.

    NEVER.

    So y’all think about that while y’all complain and sue and write column after column after column…

  40. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    May 25, 2018 at 2:29 am
    Keep dreaming Mike, he’s not getting impeached. He puts America first in everything and this is another example of how patriotic our amazing President is.

    ==========================================

    Yeah you’re definitely wrong about that. There’s really not much question that he’ll be impeached by next year and I’d put my house and car on that

  41. ….he got the Death Penalty because he butchered his wife and unborn son. You don’t get a trip to Disney. The guy has been a waste to the people of California by keeping him on Death Row at over 100k per year.

  42. Really? Trump thinks he’s above the law because he’s, well, Donald Trump. No one has held him accountable for his business dealings while President, and this is going to be any different?

  43. 1993 – President Clinton allows lawsuits to be filed against the private company called the NRA

    1999 – President Clinton’s justice department sues private tobacco companies.

    2010 – President Obama forces private businesses and individual citizens to buy a private product. This forced ALL private businesses to change their HR policies.

    2014 – President Obama uses the FCC to try to force the private company of the Redskins to change their name.

    In all four of these examples, the sitting President used the government to force private companies to change policies.

    All Trump did was exercise his first amendment right to say players should stand for the anthem. And this is what causes a lawyer to cite this law ?

  44. Nuts to this crap.
    Slowly but sure, sports are changing for the worse.
    ESPN started their supermarket rag style coverage of all types of non-athletic events, but connected to the actual games
    The Joe Paterno/Sandusky gave us way too much psycho blabber.
    The assistant basketball coach at SU was falsely accused of sexual misconduct, ESPN lost a suit.
    The various NFL players being sued on all kinds of stuff.
    The recent Kaepernick saga won’t go away.
    Enough is enough

  45. “solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation”

    Their is no partisan politics in respecting the flag.

    The majority of Democrats and Republicans stand for the anthems and believe it’s the right thing to do.

    Much to the chagrin of the SJW’s that feel that protesting at work is a constitutional right (of course, they never read the constitution).

  46. They did, this isn’t an opinion but a fact. Go on google right now and you will find that the Supreme Court has ruled on this several times. No public official is allowed to pursue that public on this in either way. It is called freedom but the right don’t like freedom unless it is their freedom. Also don’t ever call yourself a small government person if you want to force people to stand for an anthem. No bigger government than that.

  47. gsomatt says:
    May 25, 2018 at 5:38 am
    POYUS and VPOTUS are allowed their opinions. Kaepernick is starting to sound like Hilary and her “I’m still mad I lost” whining.

    —————

    You are allowed your own opinion but not to force it on others. See the difference or are you that blind?

  48. Certain NFL players are butt hurt because the millions they make leaves a sour taste because they believe their union got screwed over by the owners in the last agreement.

    This isn’t about social injustices it’s a power play against the owners. If social injustices were the real issue the players would find other ways to protest and spread their message instead of wasting everyone’s time and energy over Anthem protocol.

  49. Let me get this straight…the NFL is a private employer when the anthem policy can be linked to arresting the president of the country but is a partially public entity when it comes to the decision to employ Kaep? I mean I’ve read here several times that the public pays for stadiums etc…making the NFL a partially public business so it’s acceptable to question their employment decisions. What a joke

  50. Oh, please. The word “partisan” refers to political party affiliations and support. Kneeling during the national anthem isn’t a partisan issue.

    Heck… Kaepernick didn’t even vote in the last election.

  51. Oh, please! Leave it alone! As I said before, does anyone really think the NFL is going to change their anthem policy over something President Trump or Vice-President Pence may say?? It all came down to the money they were losing, as the almighty dollar wins every time!!

  52. It wont be applicable because hes attacking on a specific issue – the President is allowed to do that.

    1 With this new reading of the it would mean Obama(and other Presidents before) were criminals anytime they spoke out about anything that involved people at work.

    2 The law uses the word “solely” and its clear that while Republicans may generally make more patriots displays than Democrats – standing for the flag is not solely a Republican position.

    One probable and specific flaw here is that the the leader among the players may not even be a Democrat and specifically made a point of not voting for either side.

    This is an example trying to pretend a lawyers spin has more substance that it actually does – you know guys know this.

  53. I’m at work expressing my opinions. You even notice the screaming monkeys on AM talk radio and sports radio that incite their monkey clans by saying “You can’t express your opinions at work!” are actually at work getting paid to spread their brand of propaganda?

    many will obey and repeat that message without stopping and thinking “hey that guys at work?” Always be cautious of hypocrites spreading a message. They are probably getting paid to spread that hypocrisy.

  54. Trump has no power here. The leagues anthem policy was dictated by money not Trump. They were going to follow money no matter what Trump had said.

    Since all the orher players that followed were indeed sincere in why they were protesting it would be better if Kaepernick shut up and go away. We all know he was just sulking and didnt even understand the issues, his antics undermine the credibility of what turned into a good thing regardless of how it got started. Let the guys that really care about this stuff carry the torch.

  55. Actually, Trump has violated the aspect of being a decent human being. He’s made fun of a disabled reporter, committed sexual assault, thinks racist people are nice, insulted a family of a fallen soldier because he was Muslim, insulted John McCain by not acknowledging him as a war hero…oh and the list goes on. If there was a law about being a decent human being, he would be in jail by now.

  56. Hahahahahahahahahahaha….wait, wait….ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Ok, seriously, the “official act” they are withholding or threatening to withhold is…..what exactly? I mean, this is simple, its written in plain english. Are they threatening their tax status? Building codes? You never go full Shuan King (unless you’re a deluded racist), but people are really that stupid. Say like the people who will kneel during the anthem but party with guys who abuse women.

  57. Civil servants are not allowed the same depth and breadth of public displays of opinion as normal citizens. They are prohibited from publicly taking sides on any issue during work hours so as not to imply bias on the part of their office. Elected and appointed officials are considered to be on the clock 24/7, so every opinion is considered to be shared during work hours. And in a case where they try to exert pressure on a private entity it is illegal. Because they are always in their office. Ignorance of the law is not an acceptable legal defense. Inability to control your impulses is also not an acceptable legal defense. The only thing that could require proof is foreknowledge that the stupid things they say and do would be for political expedience/gain, and we are proving that quite nicely right now.

    Ya bootlicking nitwits.

  58. It’s funny watching the White House pissing all over everything and everybody! And his supporters just sit there with there mouths wide open.

  59. LOL Trump fanatics sound stupid trying to defend him at this point.. really I did not know a law worded like this existed, but his attacks on the media and the NFL fall right in line with this.

  60. So I guess the only people in this country that have freedom of speech are those that follow the liberal left agenda… got it, now I can go about my day….SMH

  61. The NFL isnt forcing the players to stand tho. They have the option to stay in the locker room. So I dont see how that argument holds up at all.

  62. on one hand the player’s attorney argues for free speech rights on the player’s part but argues against free speech rights of the President
    ——————————————————-

    Many in the media, and many more liberals, argue for free speech as long as it agrees with their viewpoint. If it does not, it is “hate” or “hurtful” speech and should be banned.

  63. Obama forced GM to shutter Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Hummer in 2009. Didn’t pressure, but commanded. No one said a word. Mark Geragos was sucking his thumb. Give me a break.

  64. “to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity”
    ————————
    Here goes the liberal agenda trying to stoke the flames. How does a desire to stand for the flag make you Republican or Democrat? That’s what this buffoon Geragos is implying.That’s a slippery slope even for the knuckle headed lefties.

  65. when you are losing your case blame trump. when you are losing the public because you are spouting communist garbage, blame trump.

  66. A woman police officer was run over with a car and killed by a black man. Maybe the officer should have shot first and she would still be alive. Then all we would hear is a cop shot an innocent black man.

    Wah wah wah wah

    I’m 100% against racism and social injustices so players should be able to protest all they want except don’t use kneeling as your platform when kneeling is more about a power play against the owners.

  67. Ppl want Kapernick, who BTW is NEVER going to play in the NFL again, want him to express himself and have freedom of speech, but when it comes to our President, it is a different story. Can’t have it two ways. The President expressed his opinion, stand don’t play or leave the country. I am not sure leaving the country is a good point a bit drastic, but if U don’t like the rules in the NFL, don’t play. Simple as that. But these players should love this country and the flag it represents. Pat Tillman did and gave up his football career and it cost him his life. He is a Patroit.

  68. Breaking the law is commonplace in this administration. And his puppet army couldn’t care less. Are conservatives smart enough to know they’re being played. Haha, no.. of course they aren’t.

  69. The President and Vice President are NOT private citizens. Much the same way that federal government employees cannot engage in partisan activities while at work (see the Hatch Act). It is an interesting legal theory. I doubt that any prosecutor would risk their career to pursue it though.

  70. If Trump sneezes people scream collusion with Kleenex and start a class action suit against the POTUS accusing him of spreading a cold. Enough is enough back off and let the man run the country.

  71. mullman7675 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 1:50 am
    That would be hilarious.

    nhpats, liberalsruineverything and the other lemmings would have their heads explode simultaneously.
    ——————————————

    My head may explode with laughter watching Trump play the Libs like a fiddle. There are lots of people that will be fitted for orange jump suits in DC but Trump won’t be one of them.
    In fact I encourage the Democrats to run on impeachment for the midterms. What could go wrong?

  72. Sit, stand, kneel. I really don’t care what you do. This is getting redonkulus. It is beginning to look like the beginning of the movie “Baseketball”

  73. It feels too simple to be applicable, but the language is as plain as it can be. And the punishment feels too harsh, with imprisonment of up to 15 years and potential disqualification from holding office.

    —–

    well what are we waiting for?

  74. Kaepernick wore socks that had pigs in police hats. It started with that, then somehow morphed into some kind of anti-Trump civil rights thing.

    It can be sliced and diced a million ways, but there is 1 bottom line, the fans DO NOT want politics in their football. The owners finally understand that. The players will come up with something else as a rebuttal, and it will just keep this thing going and anger the fans. We don’t want to hear or see any of it.

    Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (or however you spell it), former NBA player used to stay inside the locker room or sit for the anthem years ago, and was LAMPOONED. He was respectfully doing it for a religious reason that he felt strongly about. He was suspended by the NBA, they forced him to stand with his head down. He subsequently was blackballed by the NBA and couldn’t get even a tryout at age 29 after his contract expired. So the NBA playing sanctimonious on this issue annoys me as well. Abdul-Rauf is what peaceful respectful protest should be, not pig socks, and anti-Trump tweets.

  75. I’d cancel the big SJ $$ the league offered.
    It seems that things are only a one way street.
    If the players want to protest, let ’em.
    On their own time and dime.
    Keep them in the locker room.
    We only want to see them play anyway.

  76. 1590t says:
    May 25, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Kaepernick should get a better lawyer.

    ———-

    Geragos is going to bleed Kaep dry and then cut him loose….just like the 49ers did

  77. Dennis Allen’s Outgoing Persona says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:07 am
    Well that settles everything! Kaepernick’s lawyer said this? Will Trump ever recover?
    =============================================================
    Regardless of this particular situation, no, trump will never recover.

  78. mullman7675 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 1:50 am
    That would be hilarious.

    nhpats, liberalsruineverything and the other lemmings would have their heads explode simultaneously.

    ————–

    The lemmings on the Left’s heads have been exploding over and over since the moment Trump was elected. How will you be able to deal with 6 1/2 more years of all this “winning”?

  79. Sonny Bryan says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:10 am
    Can we please just get back to football
    ===================================
    You didn’t have to stop and comment.

  80. footballtruthteller says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:17 am
    How does Trump, a President that apparently no one likes or respects, have enough sway to get almost 32 team owners to see things his way? How could that be? Also, you do realize that the Trump investigation is reavealimg far more dirt on his opponents than it is in him, right??
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    Really?

  81. These leftists crack me up, they get to express their right to ‘protest’, which is fine. However, when the rest of us express our right of protest also (just tuning out of the NFL) they get their panties in a wad. Good for me and not for thee…

  82. shutupbrees says:
    May 25, 2018 at 10:09 am
    Kaepernick wore socks that had pigs in police hats. It started with that, then somehow morphed into some kind of anti-Trump civil rights thing.

    It can be sliced and diced a million ways, but there is 1 bottom line, the fans DO NOT want politics in their football. The owners finally understand that. The players will come up with something else as a rebuttal, and it will just keep this thing going and anger the fans. We don’t want to hear or see any of it.

    Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (or however you spell it), former NBA player used to stay inside the locker room or sit for the anthem years ago, and was LAMPOONED. He was respectfully doing it for a religious reason that he felt strongly about. He was suspended by the NBA, they forced him to stand with his head down. He subsequently was blackballed by the NBA and couldn’t get even a tryout at age 29 after his contract expired. So the NBA playing sanctimonious on this issue annoys me as well. Abdul-Rauf is what peaceful respectful protest should be, not pig socks, and anti-Trump tweets.
    – – –

    So do you think us concerned citizens and PROTECTORS of the ANTHEM should start boycotting ABC and the tv show Roseanne?

    Remember? Remember how she disrespected our sacred anthem in the 90s? And what did ABC do to reward her? They gave her a reboot of her tv show! Where is the (fake) outrage?

  83. There’s a very old book called The Death of Common Sense. It applies to this entire BS situation quite well, and to this idiot lawyer’s statements perfectly.

    And for those who haven’t read it, that means it’s a sad, sad state of affairs.

  84. One thing you can take to the bank regarding the “Left”. They are hypocrites and some of the worst offenders of hypocrisy I have ever seen. And Trump being in office has revealed how intolerant and hypocritical they really are. From someone who was raised as a leftist SJW. But stepped back and just checked out the policies and actions of both parties. And this is MY finding.

    Try and disagree with their crazed idealist policies if you dare!!!!!! You will see intolerance unleashed like a force. smh. so, so sad.

  85. Trump has 1st Amendment rights too. He didn’t surrender his rights when he asumed office. He didn’t “conspire” to use his office or force anyone to do anything but making a comment that millions of fans expressed LONG before Trump was elected president. Kapernick wants “rights” for himself but not for anyone else. Good luck getting this “case” before anything but a loonie leftist judge. Even then it will be appealed and won.
    Geragos is a sip and fall lawyer. “Better call Saul”, Colin! “Better call Saul”

  86. Just shameful this whole situation………….on both sides. Guess nobody really cares about us the fans. We have already told ya what we want…..this to be over. NFL Brass is hearing it, have the players? Nope, they keep on letting drivel run out of their mouths, as frankly, so is President Trump, but at least he is sticking up for us.

    Keep it up NFL players….until nobody will watch you anymore. Think it can’t happen? Ask NASCAR, not that they did anything close to this. Their issue is more a product that puts you to sleep. But I would rather take a nap than be pissed off.

  87. Pay no mind to Kaepernick’s lawyer. This guy is out to get media attention and start as many cases as possible to bleed Kaepernick dry. He’s trying to raise his profile to take on more loser cases and make more money. Geragos is an ambulance chaser of the highest degree.

  88. sllabskcustfpk says:
    May 25, 2018 at 10:18 am

    So do you think us concerned citizens and PROTECTORS of the ANTHEM should start boycotting ABC and the tv show Roseanne?
    Remember? Remember how she disrespected our sacred anthem in the 90s? And what did ABC do to reward her? They gave her a reboot of her tv show! Where is the (fake) outrage?

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    People see the word Trump, and immediately turn this issue into Pro or Anti-Trump, Liberal vs. Conservative. It’s not about that. It’s about keeping politics out of sports. I think that’s pretty much universally agreed, that they should be kept out.

    The other thing, is the police brutality issue is a real issue, but one that quickly turns into a race issue. I think that takes steam out of getting a real solution, because there are many folks who agree that the police are unaccountable, over-aggressive, and it’s a real problem, but feel like the narrative changes when it turns into BLM and we are no longer discussing the same issue. Or maybe we are, I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem that way the way it’s portrayed in the media.

  89. Also, you do realize that the Trump investigation is reavealimg far more dirt on his opponents than it is in him, right??

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    what exactly has Mueller revealed? nobody knows what Mueller and his team know, even the congressional committees that are ‘investigating’. I can’t understand how anyone can believe anything coming out of any of those investigations since the two parties can’t agree on anything and issue conflicting reports.

    what is really hilarious is the House Intelligence Committee, which said their investigation is done and issued their report, is still ‘investigating’, and was even when they issued that report. what a joke.

  90. Geragos can’t get Colin X a 3rd string job but he’s going to get Trump impeached. Let’s get Scott Peterson’s take from death row on the value of Geragos’ public blather.

  91. Typical liberal bigots, it’s always someone else’s fault. Seahawks gave him an offer, which he refused. Obviously more interested in being a celebrity, than a QB.

  92. HAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH you just cant make this stuff up. Please go forward with this Kaep lawyer, it will ensure trumps re-election

  93. Braying Donkeys > drumph lemmings

    I weep for you fools, collectively.

    It is plain as day, yet the minority of Americans who got duped are still in with this guy.

    Simpletons, the whole lot.

    BTW, another school shooting today in Indiana.

    Now you donkeys can start braying about the 2nd amendment.

  94. Trying to figure out the difference between the CreepyPornLawyer for Stephanie Gregory Clifford and this former QB’s lawyer. Both draining every penny for their customers with no expected return. Sad.

  95. @trophylessvilings:

    You mean the investigation with multiple indictments and guilty pleas?

    Yeah, that should turn up a big nothing burger.

    Drumph should skate on this, no worries.

    (above statement dripping with sarcasm)

  96. First, removal of both the President & Vice President would kill the economy. Second, I’d rather have a president that believes you should stand for the anthem than one that brokered a deal to sell 20% of the US’s Uranium to Russia in return for speaking fees for her husband and millions for their foundation.

  97. kferguson2002 says:

    May 25, 2018 at 3:52 am

    This would be a Godsend
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    Libs are anti-religion so this comment is confusing

  98. Donna Martin Graduates says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:28 am
    First, removal of both the President & Vice President would kill the economy. Second, I’d rather have a president that believes you should stand for the anthem than one that brokered a deal to sell 20% of the US’s Uranium to Russia in return for speaking fees for her husband and millions for their foundation.

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    Or one that thought giving nuclear tech to N.Korea was a stellar idea.

  99. Laws don’t apply to the Police, Politicians, the Military or the Elite class. Laws are merely to control the poor, and the working class.

  100. The right-wing nutjob comments are short-sighted and hysterical. They are all law scholars I’m sure. While I’m sure nothing will actually come of this, there’s definitely credible evidence for which a legal challenge that could be made. Just Google “Trump threatens to revoke NFL tax breaks” even the beloved Fox News (pronounced Fake News) wrote about it. Based on the spirit of the law this would seem to constitute a violation of said law. If given testimony Goodell says that it had bearing on the decision they made to their Employment Practices would be hard to argue against.

  101. The head of state calling for the end of peaceful protests and seeking punishment for those who persist… Just another day in the Democratic Peoples Republic of America.

  102. From all the silly comments above, it’s apparent the Russian social media troll factory is still running at full capacity.

  103. mullman7675 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:17 am
    Braying Donkeys > drumph lemmings

    I weep for you fools, collectively.

    It is plain as day, yet the minority of Americans who got duped are still in with this guy.

    Simpletons, the whole lot.

    BTW, another school shooting today in Indiana.

    Now you donkeys can start braying about the 2nd amendment.
    **********************************************

    So, to be clear – you’re for a constitutional right (1st amend) that you agree with but against a constitutional right (2nd amend) that you don’t agree with?

    You like to pick and choose which amendments should be enforced as it suits your needs.

    Got it.

  104. Most of us aren’t lawyers but I would love to see charges brought against Trump for this. He is not above the law (in theory… in practice it seems he is). Make the people who are professionals about the law make a decision about it.

  105. So pressure from Pence and Trump caused the NFL to change its policy? I think not. More likely it was poor ratings and attendance. And Florio, your argument doesn’t hold water since Trump and Pence’s complaint was directed at all players and owners whether Republican or Democrat, and not solely on the basis of “partisan political affiliation”

  106. The Committee to Reelect Donald J Trump in 2020: Chairman – Colin Kaepernick

    This turd has given Trump’s base more energy than everything else combined.

  107. hawksfan83 says:

    there’s definitely credible evidence for which a legal challenge that could be made. Just Google “Trump threatens to revoke NFL tax breaks” even the beloved Fox News (pronounced Fake News) wrote about it.
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    There is PLENTY of legal evidence that NOTHING can be done to Trump.
    Bill Clinton interfered with private gun businesses, private tobacco companies and private oil companies.
    Obama interfered with with private citizens, private health insurance and the private business called the Redskins.

    And ZERO legal issues were EVER taken against these forced practices against businesses.

  108. Isn’t this the same lawyer who said 2 years ago that Kaepernick would be signing with an NFL team within days of representing him and holding a press conference?

  109. God forbid if Obama did this.
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    If Obama did it, nobody in the news would even mention it

  110. JJ12 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:26 pm
    Most of us peoplearen’t lawyers but I would love to see charges brought against Trump for this. He is not above the law (in theory… in practice it seems he is). Make the people who are professionals about the law make a decision about it.

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    Bring charges for having an opinion? You people have lost your minds….

  111. This is simple. The military pays the NFL for endorsements. Part of that deal is the players being shown on tv standing during the anthem. This kneeling controversy hurts the business partnership between the league and the military. It has more to do with revenue than it does about partisan politics. Therefore, good luck with any such case Mr. Garagos.

  112. The question isn’t whether there is a chance that this case would be a winner, the question is how many times the case would bounce after being thrown out of court.

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