Patrick Mahomes on rocky practice: Now’s the time to make mistakes

AP

Chiefs coach Andy Reid said that he wants quarterback Patrick Mahomes to “massage each play and see how it works against different coverages” in practices leading up to his first season as the team’s starter and that process is going to work out better some days than others.

Thursday was not one of those better days. Mahomes threw interceptions in both 7-on-7 and full team work and completed under 50 percent of his passes overall. After the practice, Mahomes talked about practice being the time to see what isn’t clicking on offense.

“If you want to make mistakes, you make them now,” Mahomes said, via ESPN.com. “You don’t want to make those mistakes in the game.”

No one’s expectations for Mahomes are going to be dimmed by a shaky practice in May, especially with Mahomes embracing Reid’s message about this being a time to learn and feel out what’s going to make up the best approach come September.

73 responses to “Patrick Mahomes on rocky practice: Now’s the time to make mistakes

  1. I just have a feeling this kid isnt going to work out. If Patrick Mahomes comes out and has an absolutely terrible 1st season throwing something 8-10TDs w/ 19-21INTs completeing 50-54% of his passes with a passer rating in the low 60s Head Coach Andy Reid might get the Axe after trading QB Alex Smith this last off-season who had THE HIGHEST QB Passer Rating in the NFL last season.

  2. I still don’t see the Chiefs unseating the Patriots but I think they will get back to the playoffs. Andy Reid will have this kid ready for the season anyway, he’s proven to be a pretty great coach of football, just not football games

  3. Right now Andy is 10th on the list of great coaches who never won a Superbowl and by the looks of things he will eventually be number 1. The guy just can’t leave well enough alone.

  4. Mahomes could have used a couple more years behind the REALLY good QB A. Smith…
    Would have helped turn him into one of the greats.

  5. Reid got tired of Alex Smith getting them to an early exit from the playoffs. Time to make a change and gamble that the inexperienced QB will make them better.

  6. As for Mahome’s current problems, there is a precedent for this in Chiefs history. Todd Blackledge was the last QB who the Chiefs drafted in the 1st round and the Chiefs org. thought so highly of Blackledge that they passed over taking future HOF’ers Dan Marino and Jim Kelly in that ’83 draft.

    There’s a distinct possibility that Mahomes could turn out to be Blackledge Version 2.0.

  7. OMG a football related story I can enjoy on PFT. Excellent! Let me dive on in…..

    Mahomes is absolutely right. Evey qb even the vaunted Tom Brady has bad practice days. They are as much part if the process to get better as the good practice days are. The fact that Mahomes recognizes it for what it is and is using it as a case study to identify improvement opportunities shows he is on a good path.

  8. Even if this kid doesn’t work out, they were going nowhere with Alex “5 yard pass” Smith at QB. They had to try something new.

  9. Can someone please explain to me how he is a bust? He made mistakes in OTA’s where half the team isn’t even on the same page. Alex Smith had no deep ball and Tyreek Hill can beat anyone down the field. This means defenses will be back pedaling so the top doesn’t get blown off the secondary, Kelce has more room, and Hunt will have room at the second level. Geez, let the kid get comfortable.

  10. His response to it seems to be more telling then a bad practice, where Andy Reid actually encouraged trying different approaches to different coverages.

    Seems like a lot of people on here want this kid to fail, but I thought his game against Denver last year showed some promise. Roby, Barrett, Marshall all played over 70% of snaps, Miller 50%. Denver still put some talent out there.

  11. AFCW will be interesting to watch early on in the season. By week 7 or so all the story lines will straighten themselves out and we’ll know who’s who. But it’ll be a roller coaster for a while.

  12. He may end up being a star, but he will go through the normal growing pains. I dont think its that big a deal if he struggles a bit this year. Should be expected. Hes basically a rookie with two training camps. I think there will be a decline from Alex Smith who may have been underwhelming but was pretty efficient. I think Smith kind of became the scapegoat there when really they failed to field an adequate D for playoff advancement.

  13. “If you want to make mistakes, you make them now,” Mahomes said, via ESPN.com. “You don’t want to make those mistakes in the game.”
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    Wait till the live bullets start flying, it could get real ugly.

  14. Look at all the haters……..never knew there were so many. Just wait until the actual season. Can’t wait for all the haters to eat some serious crow!

  15. The Chargers have no excuse for not winning the division. All other teams in the division have questions at QB.

  16. The haters will be eating their words come the fall. You don’t know what you don’t know. Why don’t you ask Talib or Anyone else that has faced him. He may have a hiccup or two but the AFC west will go through KC

  17. “Are we talking about practice?”

    Guy has one bad practice and you expert commenters deem him a bust. Anything the AFC West opponent fans can grab a hold of to make themselves few better. It is amazing you guys are not employed by NFL team scouting departments. You know with your skillful and knowledgeable evaluation ability after a practice you have not seen.

  18. All these people saying the Chiefs should not have gotten rid of Alex Smith were the same people calling him Captain Checkdown. Let Mahomes start a real regular season game before taking ish.

  19. my comment awaits no moderation says:

    May 25, 2018 at 9:07 am

    they screwed up so bad getting rid of Alex Smith , , Moby Mahomes will lead the league in interceptions, how do you blow up 21-3 lead at home?
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    Q: how do you blow up 21-3 lead at home? A: Alex Smith

    You were saying?

  20. Sky am falling syndrome from every tiny mistake is infecting our society.

    Its far better to make these mistakes in practice and learn from them than have easy practices and make the mistakes during games. We all learn from mistakes and May-June-July are the months to make them in for NFL players.

    Now if Mahomes doesn’t improve in the next couple months and is still making the same mistakes that’s a different thing.

  21. officialgame says:
    May 25, 2018 at 9:33 am
    Right now Andy is 10th on the list of great coaches who never won a Superbowl and by the looks of things he will eventually be number 1. The guy just can’t leave well enough alone.

    Can you really be considered a great coach if you never won the SB?

  22. I see a Testaverde/Favre like trajectory for this kid. Lots of turnovers early in his career, but if you’re willing to weather that storm, you might be rewarded with GREATNESS. Like HOF greatness potentially.

  23. nhpats says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:36 am
    Titan says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:17 am
    Strongest arm in the league.

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    Lowest IQ in the league

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    No, that distinction belongs to Teddy Bridgewater (as far as QB’s goes)

  24. This absolutely can’t be true.. Chiefs fans said Mahomes was on track to be in the Hall of Fame and that Mahomes was the best QB in the division. Oh my goodness

  25. joetoronto says:

    May 25, 2018 at 10:07 am

    This guy is Rob Johnson 2.0 and that’s not a good thing.
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    And Derek Carr is David Carr 2.0…………soft.

  26. phillytailgater says:
    May 25, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Can someone please explain to me how he is a bust? He made mistakes in OTA’s where half the team isn’t even on the same page. Alex Smith had no deep ball and Tyreek Hill can beat anyone down the field. This means defenses will be back pedaling so the top doesn’t get blown off the secondary, Kelce has more room, and Hunt will have room at the second level. Geez, let the kid get comfortable.

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    Get out of here with your intelligence and logic can’t you see we’re bashing the Chiefs here?!

  27. It’s hilarious when you have Raider fans commenting on other teams QB’s as busts. I’ve got two words for them Jamarcus Russell….

  28. redlikethepig says:
    May 25, 2018 at 9:23 am
    If this guy busts then heads will roll.
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    Especially considering Reid and KC gave up the 25th pick last year, a 1st round pick this year that was somewhere around the same value as last years along with a 3rd round pick to move up to grab Mahomes when Reid all the NFL Front offices knew a much better deeper QB Class would be available in 2018. Look what Arizona gave up to move up to land a better much more polished, much better pure passer who’s far more NFL ready in 1st round pick QB Josh Rosen, Arizona only needed to surrender a 2018 3rd round pick & 2018 5th round pick. Arizona didnt surrender a 1st or 2nd next year unlike KC. For what KC paid for Mahomes he better be an Excellent Pro-Bowl caliber QB by his 2nd season, if that kid busts heads will roll.

  29. Reid got tired of Alex Smith getting them to an early exit from the playoffs. Time to make a change and gamble that the inexperienced QB will make them better.

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    Andy Reid was suffering early premature exits from the Post-Season LONG LONG BEFORE he ever paired up with QB Alex Smith & Alex Smith didnt blow the 21-3 lead against a bad Titans team last year, KC’s crappy defense and terrible conservative offensive play calling did all that. Alex Smith MOST DEFINITELY was not the problem in KC.

  30. Chiefs are going nowhere this year. They gutted their D, rolling out an unproven qb that has played 1 game…….going nowhere and they will extend Fat Andy.

  31. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    May 25, 2018 at 11:17 am
    The Chargers have no excuse for not winning the division. All other teams in the division have questions at QB.

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    I believe the Chargers and Raiders have answers at the QB position, not questions. As long as Case Keenum is not pre 2017 Case Keenum, the Broncos have answered that question also for the next 2 years. The only question that remains at QB is the Chiefs who are starting essentially a rookie at the position.

  32. nelly837 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    It’s hilarious when you have Raider fans commenting on other teams QB’s as busts. I’ve got two words for them Jamarcus Russell….

    ===========================

    Yes, personally I thought that was a horrible selection at the time and anyone else in the 2007 draft would’ve taken Calvin Johnson instead. But Al Davis was senile by that time, so it was like a lot of his other decisions at that stage.

    On the other hand, the question remains about what the Chiefs’ justification was for passing on Dan Marino and Jim Kelly (who are both now in the HOF) in favor of Todd Blackledge in 1983? The same kind of question can be made for what drove them to give up a ransom for the right to select Mahomes last year?

  33. I have no idea yet if Mahomes will be good or bad, but I do know it is far too early to be naming him a HOF QB like some Chiefs fans are. To be fair it’s also too early to call him a bust. It’ll be several years or more before we truly know. While he does have great arm strength like many point out, that’s by no means an indication of a successful QB.

    You may remember Jamarcus Russell having the biggest arm in the league, who once threw a football 70+ yards on one knee. Sadly, he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with his big arm.

    I do recall seeing Mahomes on the NFL Network quite awhile back, and him and David Carr were throwing footballs to see who could throw it the fastest. Mahomes won, and had impressive speed, but one of the throws to David was easily 10+ feet above David’s head, and they were no more than 15 yards or so apart. Granted, it was only one bad throw, but it was bad. That’s always stuck in my head, and makes me wonder if he’ll have a little trouble with accuracy at times.

  34. nelly837 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    It’s hilarious when you have Raider fans commenting on other teams QB’s as busts. I’ve got two words for them Jamarcus Russell….

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    I get Jamarcus was a bust, but he was also HIGHLY regarded as a can’t fail pick by many scouts. Ryan Leaf was the same way and he turned out to be a bust. Akili Smith, Todd Blackledge, Cedric Benson, any player ever drafted by Matt Millen, Lawrence Phillips, Vernon Gholston. All busts. It happens. The point is KC gave up a lot to move up and get him. If Mahomes is a bust, Andy Reid and company set the team back 3-4 years by giving up those picks to move up and get him. Apologies to Lions fans, but c’mon it’s Matt Millen.

  35. He has nothing to worry about. It’s not like Andy Reid would spend the entire offseason with one guy as his starter to only bench him after one game…..oh wait

  36. Its Mahomes rookie year, wait a couple of full seasons before rendering judgment.
    He may be bad this year, then improve in his next 2 years.

  37. It’s Rivers in this division and everyone else behind him…perhaps second to only Brady in the entire AFC. That said, I see Keenum and the Broncos running away with the AFC West this season. He IS the real deal.

  38. Opponents will be forced to dedicate 3/11 of their defense to the threat of Mahomes deep to Tyreek Hill. That by itself will leave Kelsey open for an easy first down on virtually every play. My only question is can Mahomes stay healthy in the big league.

  39. As a Bears fan, I have to wonder how much the absence of Matt Nagy has to do with this.

  40. nelly837 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    It’s hilarious when you have Raider fans commenting on other teams QB’s as busts. I’ve got two words for them Jamarcus Russell….

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    name one team that has NEVER!!!! drafted a Bust!!!!!

    that was then an this is NOW

    your current QB is struggling in practice when their is NO PASS RUSH!!!, it doe snot matter what you had in the past

    Chargers had a major bust in Leaf but the currently have Rivers
    Broncos had Elway in the past but their current QBs are crap.
    (I know soem Bronco fans are gushing over Kennum but please I seen enough of him when he was in Houston and witht he Rams)

  41. annedfromchoirpractice says:
    May 25, 2018 at 4:14 pm
    Opponents will be forced to dedicate 3/11 of their defense to the threat of Mahomes deep to Tyreek Hill. That by itself will leave Kelsey open for an easy first down on virtually every play. My only question is can Mahomes stay healthy in the big league.
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    An EASY first down on virtually EVERY play. Enjoy your 19-0 season. Shocking that no coach in the history of the league is as smart as a. Reid.

  42. @gysot – sorry the concept of the number one tight end in the league matched with THE FASTEST WR (who can run routes AND catch the ball) in the league & potentially, one of the best natural passers in the league is so upsetting to you. Any coach could make themselves look smart with that combination. You or I could probably coach this Chiefs team to 19-0.

  43. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    May 25, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    @gysot – sorry the concept of the number one tight end in the league matched with THE FASTEST WR (who can run routes AND catch the ball) in the league & potentially, one of the best natural passers in the league is so upsetting to you. Any coach could make themselves look smart with that combination. You or I could probably coach this Chiefs team to 19-0.
    ~“““““““`
    I will look forward to watching an easy first down on every single play next year. Greatest offense ever.

  44. hawkkiller says:
    May 25, 2018 at 8:53 am
    I just have a feeling this kid isnt going to work out. If Patrick Mahomes comes out and has an absolutely terrible 1st season throwing something 8-10TDs w/ 19-21INTs completeing 50-54% of his passes with a passer rating in the low 60s Head Coach Andy Reid might get the Axe after trading QB Alex Smith this last off-season who had THE HIGHEST QB Passer Rating in the NFL last season.

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    Based on what, specifically? You have a feeling…lol. Gimme a break.

  45. @gysot – I don’t waste my mental faculties on valueless fantasies like “best ever” trophies and such. What I do concern myself with is who will be the best on Sunday and perhaps thru the season. Las Vegas is presently offering Chiefs +3 at LA Chargers in week 1. Now that’s an offer that could make each and every one of the Chiefs’ easy first downs in week 1 mighty delicious. On the other hand, if you’re scared, then sit it out. You can always go to the closet and dust off those Greatest Ever trophies. That’s not my idea of good times, but if it floats your boat, it’s fine with me.

  46. You can complete 100% of underthrown passes but you aren’t really developing the timing and perfection needed. QB’s and receivers should be trying things at the edges, “how high should I throw it, how far can I lead you etc. Incompletions should be expected and almost demanded.

  47. It’s a good thing that Elway and Manning aren’t rookies, because they would have been declared busts and drummed out of the league after their first seasons

  48. Christ besides Reid’s unfortunate playoff luck with KC his reputation speaks for itself. Give the kid a chance. Smith was never going to get them over the hump. “We’re talking about practice, practice.” -A.I.

  49. ariani1985 says:
    May 25, 2018 at 7:28 pm
    Sad when he is the 2nd best QB behind Rivers in the conference. SAD.
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    This dude may not be the 2nd best QB on his own team.

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